Ive been thinking, if time travel was possible and you went to save Jesus
before been crucified. Would he know you? Would he let you help him? the point am getting at is did Jesus have to die to save mankind? What would his life have been like?
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Of course no one would have saved Jesus...he wouldn't have let them. He was supposed to die for our sins, that's why he was sent here. I think the almighty God could have saved him if that's what was his plan was, but it wasn't, that's why he didn't intervene.
Well, I'll assume an almighty God exists for this one, so well... You say that God would have saved him if that was his plan? Maybe his plan was for Jesus to die at first, and have a future time traveler go to the past and save him?
Anyway... I dont know if I would have risked my life to save him. If he actually existed, I'd have to make sure he is what he says he is.
That's a very interesting question. Essentially, what you are asking is wether we, had we the opportunity, would block the emergence of Christianity.
To be perfectly honest, yes I probably would have, for the simple reason that I would like to see how a world minus the influence of formalized Christianity would have developed. Would another religion have taken its place? Would rationality have ruled instead, and scientific thought gotten a head start? It is a rather delightful thought exercise.
To be perfectly honest, yes I probably would have, for the simple reason that I would like to see how a world minus the influence of formalized Christianity would have developed. Would another religion have taken its place? Would rationality have ruled instead, and scientific thought gotten a head start? It is a rather delightful thought exercise.
Lol, I never thought of it that way... I had my mind intent on ridiculing the con artist instead
you are assuming though, has Jesus been saved from the crucifixion the high priests would have stopped trying to have him killed. I don't think this is the case. He would have ended up dead in some other way...if they couldn't go through Roman channels..I am sure that there are other ways to take someone out. If the priests didn't want to dirty their hands with murder, there were plenty of Jewish zealots with no problems with that
My point is, even if you went back and saved him, i believe somehow or another Christianity would still have emerged
My point is, even if you went back and saved him, i believe somehow or another Christianity would still have emerged
I made a post about this (bar the time travel). Jesus did not want to die, He asked God to 'take this cup away from Me'. Then, God gave people a choice (we all have free will, remember) Barabas or Jesus. People chose Jesus. If I could go back in time and save Jesus, yes, of course I would. They say that Jesus had to die on the corss for our sins, but if people had have saved Jesus instead of killing and torturing Him, maybe God would have forgiven sins anyway. Plus, Revelation was 'set in stone' so to speak 60 years after Jesus died, so maybe it is the punishment for killing God's Son. It is said in Revelation that Jesus was the lamb, but returns as the lion to hand out God's wrath. I wonder why.
Maybe Christianity wouldn't have had to been based on Jesus death, but His life instead.
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Thats exactly the thing, maybe... hense the curiosity to see if it wouldnt be around today if he lived.
Mad TV has a skit where the Terminator goes back in time to save jesus...very funny..."Pontious Pilate at 3 'Oclock..."
I would be willing to bet that if anyone did go back, the truth of the situation would be rather disconcerting to religious believers...
I would be willing to bet that if anyone did go back, the truth of the situation would be rather disconcerting to religious believers...
Oh yeah! I remember seeing that one! The guy did look a lot like Shwartzeneggar too!
Yes, as I would save anyone who's life is in danger. Of course it would not have an effect on our time line. In our world he would have died just as he did.
Well if I went back in time I wouldn't try to save Jesus or stop it. Rather I'd watch the entire thing step by step walking with the crowd to witness it first hand. Of course I'd try to take a suvenir 
. After all I wouldn't want to change history good or bad there is always a lesson to be learned in it.
"he'll be back" -the Terminator (mad tv) looking at a crucified christ off screen.
How about if instead of saving Jesus I can go back and stop Constantine from forming the current bible. Christianity is focused on the death of Jesus more from Constantine than anything Jesus said.
If he actually existed, as a fellow human being I would try, but of course since hes JESUS he wouldn`t have allowed me to save him coz isnt he dying for all our sins. But first i would crack it at him and his god, and let them now just how i feel about what they are and what the human race has done in their names and their religion. But i dont believe he ever existed, so im not going anywhere!
To most skeptics out there I have to say that Jesus does exist;
and if I could say it into you face, then I would. (;
But if I had the ability to travel back to the time when Jesus
lived, I would become His disciple. I would gladly give my life
for His cause as a martyr. However, the question is illogical.
Assuming that Jesus died and rose, and if what all He said was
true, then nobody would dare to stop Him. The Bible makes it
clear that nobody took His life. He did. He gave it up for us, and
nobody could stop Him from giving it up. It was bound to happen.
It was historic, and if it were possible to change it, I would never
dream of doing so, because Jesus' death and ressurection gives
me assurance of eternal life with Him. It would be worse then suicidal
to change history in that way. Thats what I think.
and if I could say it into you face, then I would. (;
But if I had the ability to travel back to the time when Jesus
lived, I would become His disciple. I would gladly give my life
for His cause as a martyr. However, the question is illogical.
Assuming that Jesus died and rose, and if what all He said was
true, then nobody would dare to stop Him. The Bible makes it
clear that nobody took His life. He did. He gave it up for us, and
nobody could stop Him from giving it up. It was bound to happen.
It was historic, and if it were possible to change it, I would never
dream of doing so, because Jesus' death and ressurection gives
me assurance of eternal life with Him. It would be worse then suicidal
to change history in that way. Thats what I think.
I would be curious enough to travel back in time just to be there and see Jesus face to face, hear him speak, and witness the great miracles that He did. I wouldn't have stopped the crucifixion, because it would have been impossible to stop. After all, that's the purpose of Jesus coming here to earth as a man to spread God's Word, make people believe in Him, and to die on the cross for everyone in the world, that everyone who calls on Him might have eternal life. Then he was to be resurected, and be seen by His disciples, to ensure them that He was, is, and will always be Jesus.
Norman: Why are you trying to provoke an argument between me and others and you?
I think that even if Jesus were saved by a time traveler, there would still probably be christianity based largely on his teachings and the continued way he would model his life. The following could be even larger, since there are many people who have a difficult time believing that he was resurrected, and therefore it might have seemed more believable to those people if he hadn't.
Then again, maybe the following would be less. But one of the things that made Jesus so unique from other masters, aside from the documented miracles, was that he was the only one who was documented to have died and risen again.
Even if i could save him i don't think he'd agree with me. Didn't he like die to forgive all sins sometthin like that anyway.
The very base of Jesus followers is his death and reserection if he was saved (which I dont believe he would allow) it would totally destroy many faiths. Jesus had the power to save himself and did not he knew his death was part of a greater plan.
I would like to save Jesus and bring him back to our world now.I will bring him travel around our world in 79 days.One day faster then Jackey Chan movie. Then i will asks him to teach us Bible and miracle magic in media to amaze the whole world.Soon all the religions will become Christians believers.And will be only one religion left in this world. 
My point is that there is no sure thing as time travel because it will destroy all the history.U can use this machine to travel to the pass or future to do bad things example:robbery,murders,rape etc.Which is out of control to the world.Ur thing will be suddenly disappear to nowhere.Prisoners will escape to nowhere.911 can be prevent.Police will be hunting the criminal everywhere pass and future.
What people always say pass is passed it can never be able to stop or bringing back.Be logical and don't think of impossible.But i still don't mind for those who wish to invent this machine to have a try.U maybe able to change the impossible who's know maybe i am wrong and u are right.
Then i will asks him to teach us Bible and miracle magic in media to amaze the whole world.Soon all the religions will become Christians believers.And will be only one religion left in this world. My point is that there is no sure thing as time travel because it will destroy all the history.U can use this machine to travel to the pass or future to do bad things example:robbery,murders,rape etc.Which is out of control to the world.Ur thing will be suddenly disappear to nowhere.Prisoners will escape to nowhere.911 can be prevent.Police will be hunting the criminal everywhere pass and future.
What people always say pass is passed it can never be able to stop or bringing back.Be logical and don't think of impossible.But i still don't mind for those who wish to invent this machine to have a try.U maybe able to change the impossible who's know maybe i am wrong and u are right.
OK, say we save Jesus (I'm agnostic, so I don't give a flip). The Christians will raise all hell (forgive the pun). No one will have saved them from their sins. So what? They are all guilty of something anyways, according to Christian faith. Well, Catholic anyways. And what is with that? They think a guy who died 2000 years ago absolves the current population from their sins? 2000 years ago the poor guy had the sins of a few hundred thousand people to deal with. Today it's more like 7 BILLION???? Not to mention all them in between????
I say we go back and save Seamus McReady. Honest patron of the Camelot Bar and Grill. Always payed his tab and often bought the bar a round.
I say we go back and save Seamus McReady. Honest patron of the Camelot Bar and Grill. Always payed his tab and often bought the bar a round.
A quick note on time travel - Time travel into the past has been physically tested and has empirical evidence to prove it. Example, a machine known as a light clock ticks at 250 attoseconds(an attosecond is one quintillionth (10-18) of a second). Take two of these clocks and put both of them on your wrist. After a month you check to see if the two clocks are at the same click rate - they are! Now you put one of the clocks in orbit around the earth and after a month you check the clocks to see if they are the same - they are not!
Proof, you got to love it
To save him or not, yes of course I would. In doing so I would be showing Jesus and the LORD that killing is not the answer. Abraham himself stop the lord from killing all the Israelites when they fell back into paganism, all he did was basically say to the LORD, "Dude chill out, why ya going to get all evil?" If Moses can do it so can you.
You see this is what makes religion so dangerous. People who would love to see everyone think just like them; then you would have no doubt that you're religion is true because everyone around you would only support your ideas. The point you miss, is your ideas might be what kills us all. It's kind of like having too many trees of the same type too close together, if disease hits they all die.
Proof, you got to love it
To save him or not, yes of course I would. In doing so I would be showing Jesus and the LORD that killing is not the answer. Abraham himself stop the lord from killing all the Israelites when they fell back into paganism, all he did was basically say to the LORD, "Dude chill out, why ya going to get all evil?" If Moses can do it so can you.
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Then I will ask him to teach us Bible and miracle magic in media to amaze the whole world. Soon all the religions will become Christian’s believers. And will be only one religion left in this world.
You see this is what makes religion so dangerous. People who would love to see everyone think just like them; then you would have no doubt that you're religion is true because everyone around you would only support your ideas. The point you miss, is your ideas might be what kills us all. It's kind of like having too many trees of the same type too close together, if disease hits they all die.
No doubt that same time clock when place at different area the time will be different.Because many things u have to consider.The weathers and gravity will affect the time of the clock.So the change of the time got nothing to do with time travel unless u have very strong proof to make an animal disappear rather then trick,then that will be strongly apply to the theory and practical. 
Take my same story and apply it to perfectly flat space were weather and gravity do not exist.
There are many more test that have been done to show more proof that time travel to the past is real.
At rest, muons disintegrate in about 2 x 10-6 seconds. A muon moving at 90% the speed of light will live longer then its counter part that is stationary to your perspective.
There are many more test that have been done to show more proof that time travel to the past is real.
At rest, muons disintegrate in about 2 x 10-6 seconds. A muon moving at 90% the speed of light will live longer then its counter part that is stationary to your perspective.
no.... you should never change the past, could alter something important...that may make life worse for everyone, i can't see an advantage of having jesus around...
to me, if you except time travel then you are also excepting parallel universes because thats what it must be, a parallel universe living on a differnt time scale to us. so with that in mind i dont think that it would change anything in our universe so i cant see the point in trying to save him.
I'm surprised at the tangent that this thread has gone off on. The original question wasn't about the ability to time travel or not. Heck, Merlin could have waved his wand at you and poofed you back in time for all the importance the method has. The question was about the ramifications of saving Jesus from the crucifixion.
Personally, I'm all for it, as long as I could come back and see the results. The argument about making things worse is fairly moot to me. After all, it could just as well make things much better than they are now. I'm convinced that without the resurrection, Christianity as a formalized religion would never have gained the power that it has now. I would dearly love to speculate how more secular powers would have progressed in its absence.
Personally, I'm all for it, as long as I could come back and see the results. The argument about making things worse is fairly moot to me. After all, it could just as well make things much better than they are now. I'm convinced that without the resurrection, Christianity as a formalized religion would never have gained the power that it has now. I would dearly love to speculate how more secular powers would have progressed in its absence.
The thread asked-
"Ive been thinking, if time travel was possible and you went to save Jesus
before been crucified. Would he know you? Would he let you help him? the point am getting at is did Jesus have to die to save mankind? What would his life have been like?".
I see, Mr. Aquatus...point taken...
Yet, "would he know you?" begs speculation about omniscience,
and recognition of time travelers...
Would he let us help, or intervene, in a historical manner...
Which is to say, would our alerting him to his impending demise
cause him to either avoid controversial behavior or escape to
distant, non-roman lands, and thus abrogate his place in the grand scheme
of things...
Did he have to die? Did Paul? Did Peter? Certainly, the latter deaths
brought an end to their proselytizing Rome, but by that time, they
had single-handedly spread the word of Christianity like no others.
So death or not, Peter and Paul made profound beginnings to the
early Christian writings and legacy.
On the other hand, Jewish tradition had specific qualifiiers for any
messiah. Being god-like was only one. They had to be a liberator
in the political sense, as well.
Jesus is accused of having 'failed' on several points, which is why
he is rejected by mainstream Jews. Yet, He himself said, "I did not
come to change the law, but to fulfill it." That is more profound.
That is prophetic. That is truly evolutionary, vs. revolutionary.
"Ive been thinking, if time travel was possible and you went to save Jesus
before been crucified. Would he know you? Would he let you help him? the point am getting at is did Jesus have to die to save mankind? What would his life have been like?".
I see, Mr. Aquatus...point taken...
Yet, "would he know you?" begs speculation about omniscience,
and recognition of time travelers...
Would he let us help, or intervene, in a historical manner...
Which is to say, would our alerting him to his impending demise
cause him to either avoid controversial behavior or escape to
distant, non-roman lands, and thus abrogate his place in the grand scheme
of things...
Did he have to die? Did Paul? Did Peter? Certainly, the latter deaths
brought an end to their proselytizing Rome, but by that time, they
had single-handedly spread the word of Christianity like no others.
So death or not, Peter and Paul made profound beginnings to the
early Christian writings and legacy.
On the other hand, Jewish tradition had specific qualifiiers for any
messiah. Being god-like was only one. They had to be a liberator
in the political sense, as well.
Jesus is accused of having 'failed' on several points, which is why
he is rejected by mainstream Jews. Yet, He himself said, "I did not
come to change the law, but to fulfill it." That is more profound.
That is prophetic. That is truly evolutionary, vs. revolutionary.
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I do not know about space/time Einstein atom fluxes flying by.
But, would field effects on photons simply lessen, at greater
escape-velocities, for instance, and equate more to rate of decay
rather than suspension of process.
For instance- entropy is greater near interacting masses.
And less, upon masses in a hypothetical vaccuum.
No drag, no interaction with other forces- hence, live longer...
Of course, there are those rockets to the far-away places for
the rich-and-famous- come back younger than you left!
I am just guessing, that someday we will have a more complete,
and revolutionary view of time, when we unify field equations
and gravity/space/time. It may be that we can manipulate the rate
or ratio of time, such as accelerating sub-atomic particles using
magnetic fields.
If we can accelerate, de-celerate gravity gravitons/waves
we may tap into the way UFOs appear to travel- faster than
greased lightning.
I read a Naval Lab report on 'slowing time'. In essence, the woman
at the lab decided to take a non-inert laser gas, and chill it to near
0 degrees K, or something as nearly cold.
The excitation/stimulous of light release in the gas laser was
slowed to a crawl, by virtue of the chilled gas ions.
It was not 'time manipulation of light' as the press had portrayed it...
I forgot about the philosophical query...
Let me say, I am as dense as a brick, when it comes to religion.
My sister is gifted, though, and interprets Christianity like someone
from on-high. She is remarkable...
I had two notable dreams about Jesus. The last, before my divorce,
foretold a prophesy about me. Even though it was of a general nature,
it was specific enough to be worthy of my utmost respect.
If Jesus is symbolic of the nature of man's struggle to survive, then
re-writing his drama would downplay its impact and importance.
By the same token, trying to accelerate the 'plan' would minimize
the impact of various stages of development.
The Universe takes time to go through massive undertakings. Man's
psyche and brain have had to evolve. Whatever may be happening
on some spiritual level may have to go on until the end of time,
trillions of years, for all I know.
If a milestone occured, in the development
of our Sun, would I try to alter that, without knowing all
the ramifications? Would I interfere with apple trees in
Newton's England? Would I go back in time and just look?
Maybe...
I have to admit- Virgin Birth; Caeser's lead-poisoning [not Claudius,
but, Nero (really bad) and Caligula (equally as bad)];
Roman occupation; Jesus raising heck in the Temple on Passover;
Pontious Pilate having a mandate to quell violaters of
Passover- or risk Roman retribution...Roman crucifixions;
Peter and Paul (Saul?) making real waves in Rome...
the story of the Resurrection...
Sometimes I ask myself, is there a bit of show in all this, for the masses?
Perhaps one could imagine differnet circumstances, giving way
to similar results. Free your mind, your heart, and do not
disabuse others of their personal, altruisitc beliefs.
I think I read a very interesting story once, about William Penn.
A quaker, a lawyer, a land empressario in the English colonies.
I believe they were very discreet in their practice of Christianity,
believing that a quiet, profound inner awareness was all
that mattered. No public grandeure, no ostentatious protocol.
Just a gathering of friends for meditation and prayer...
For this, the Church of England had them imprisoned...
But, would field effects on photons simply lessen, at greater
escape-velocities, for instance, and equate more to rate of decay
rather than suspension of process.
For instance- entropy is greater near interacting masses.
And less, upon masses in a hypothetical vaccuum.
No drag, no interaction with other forces- hence, live longer...
Of course, there are those rockets to the far-away places for
the rich-and-famous- come back younger than you left!
I am just guessing, that someday we will have a more complete,
and revolutionary view of time, when we unify field equations
and gravity/space/time. It may be that we can manipulate the rate
or ratio of time, such as accelerating sub-atomic particles using
magnetic fields.
If we can accelerate, de-celerate gravity gravitons/waves
we may tap into the way UFOs appear to travel- faster than
greased lightning.
I read a Naval Lab report on 'slowing time'. In essence, the woman
at the lab decided to take a non-inert laser gas, and chill it to near
0 degrees K, or something as nearly cold.
The excitation/stimulous of light release in the gas laser was
slowed to a crawl, by virtue of the chilled gas ions.
It was not 'time manipulation of light' as the press had portrayed it...
I forgot about the philosophical query...
Let me say, I am as dense as a brick, when it comes to religion.
My sister is gifted, though, and interprets Christianity like someone
from on-high. She is remarkable...
I had two notable dreams about Jesus. The last, before my divorce,
foretold a prophesy about me. Even though it was of a general nature,
it was specific enough to be worthy of my utmost respect.
If Jesus is symbolic of the nature of man's struggle to survive, then
re-writing his drama would downplay its impact and importance.
By the same token, trying to accelerate the 'plan' would minimize
the impact of various stages of development.
The Universe takes time to go through massive undertakings. Man's
psyche and brain have had to evolve. Whatever may be happening
on some spiritual level may have to go on until the end of time,
trillions of years, for all I know.
If a milestone occured, in the development
of our Sun, would I try to alter that, without knowing all
the ramifications? Would I interfere with apple trees in
Newton's England? Would I go back in time and just look?
Maybe...
I have to admit- Virgin Birth; Caeser's lead-poisoning [not Claudius,
but, Nero (really bad) and Caligula (equally as bad)];
Roman occupation; Jesus raising heck in the Temple on Passover;
Pontious Pilate having a mandate to quell violaters of
Passover- or risk Roman retribution...Roman crucifixions;
Peter and Paul (Saul?) making real waves in Rome...
the story of the Resurrection...
Sometimes I ask myself, is there a bit of show in all this, for the masses?
Perhaps one could imagine differnet circumstances, giving way
to similar results. Free your mind, your heart, and do not
disabuse others of their personal, altruisitc beliefs.
I think I read a very interesting story once, about William Penn.
A quaker, a lawyer, a land empressario in the English colonies.
I believe they were very discreet in their practice of Christianity,
believing that a quiet, profound inner awareness was all
that mattered. No public grandeure, no ostentatious protocol.
Just a gathering of friends for meditation and prayer...
For this, the Church of England had them imprisoned...
If I ask you what time it is....will you tell me how to build a watch?
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The thread asked-
"Ive been thinking, if time travel was possible and you went to save Jesus
before been crucified. Would he know you? Would he let you help him? the point am getting at is did Jesus have to die to save mankind? What would his life have been like?".
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"Ive been thinking, if time travel was possible and you went to save Jesus
before been crucified. Would he know you? Would he let you help him? the point am getting at is did Jesus have to die to save mankind? What would his life have been like?".
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What complex? Read the last two sentences. It's pretty clear what the question is.
O.K. Guys- I tried to cut to the chase... Points accepted...
Lets see..i travel in time and i am in front of a guy called jesus, in paletinia, in 32 BC. Well, i kil the guy , and all his disiples. Then i jump in time and begin to kill any religious "mesias" all over the wolrd and time (Mahoma, buda, veryone how thinks is an herald of a god of a god himself). Then, i begin to put agents how will foment the reason and science. Them, the present will become a better place.
Oooh, please don't kill a Buddha. They're the only ones that have admitted they would change if science proved them wrong. Besides, there's too many of them, and they're all really nice (even if the ones I met are a little wacky).
You couldn't save Jesus. End of discussion.
Thank you, Last One. Now we know.
Of course, the question wasn't wether we could save him or not. It was what would have happened if we had.
Again, I beleive the crucifixion is the fulcrum of the entire existance of formalized Christianity. Remove that, and it collapses or is left behind by science like every other major religion.
Of course, the question wasn't wether we could save him or not. It was what would have happened if we had.
Again, I beleive the crucifixion is the fulcrum of the entire existance of formalized Christianity. Remove that, and it collapses or is left behind by science like every other major religion.
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A quick note on time travel - Time travel into the past has been physically tested and has empirical evidence to prove it. Example, a machine known as a light clock ticks at 250 attoseconds(an attosecond is one quintillionth (10-18) of a second). Take two of these clocks and put both of them on your wrist. After a month you check to see if the two clocks are at the same click rate - they are! Now you put one of the clocks in orbit around the earth and after a month you check the clocks to see if they are the same - they are not!
Not quite... There is no evidence to suggest that time travel to the past is possible. That clock you're talking about didnt go into the past... There are a few things that affect time... gravity, and speed. What happened is, the space shuttle was going at quite a fast speed... and since it was going that fast, time slowed down for it, therefor the clock onboard was behind the clock on the surface. It didnt travel into the past. Actually, to the contrary, it travelled to the future, since for it, it spent, I dunno, lets say it spent 1 minute in space at that speed... but the world on the surface progressed lets say, a minute and a half. Understand? Say you're going almost at the speed of light... that means that time for you slows down to almost nill, but time for others that arent going at that speed are still going normally, so what happens is, you live out what you feel is 1 minute at the speed of light, and then stop moving. You felt like you've lived 1 minute, but to others, you've been at the speed of light for a few years, so in essence, the society has progressed a few years into the future, and you didnt do that along with it. Now, this is where it gets tricky... I'm not sure about why the following is gonna happen, but I've heard that its what theoretically would happen. If you surpass the speed of light, time will be going in reverse for you, theoretically. I'm not sure how society on Earth would work out for you, though. It doesnt matter though, since its theoretically impossible to even reach the speed of light, its theoretically impossible to travel to the past using this method too.
Depending on where you are time is different example if one was on another planet time is diffrent a day isnt 24 hours etc etc. But now we are off topic Question was "if" we could travel bak would we save Jesus. First I dont see Jesus allowing himself to be saved after all this was part of the plan. Secondly if one had saved him what would be the costs? Even non believer aknowledge the impact Jesus had on the world and how his death affected teh world as we know it. Saving Jesus could have a terrible impact on our present
Alternatively, it could have a wonderful impact. Science could have gotten started much earlier, and subsequently bettered our lives significantly. When you think about it, if you eliminate every single war that was fought because of religious belief, every hate crime cause by a religiously founded morality clause, every advanced that was destroyed in the name of the gods, you have an incredible amount of peace, tolerance, and scientific progress left over. It isn't too much to say that we might well have eliminated wars by this day and age, as well as achieved global distribution of food and comfort.
This topic seems to have nowhere left to go and is in danger of becoming a War of Religion itself.
I would suggest that those who wish to discuss Time Travel do so in another thread (of which there are many on the subject of Time Travel) and those of you who wish to discuss what may or may not have happened if Jesus had of been saved from the crucifiction do so in the Spirituality and Skepticism forum.
Thank you.
I would suggest that those who wish to discuss Time Travel do so in another thread (of which there are many on the subject of Time Travel) and those of you who wish to discuss what may or may not have happened if Jesus had of been saved from the crucifiction do so in the Spirituality and Skepticism forum.
Thank you.
QUOTE(AztecInca @ Sep 8 2004, 03:45 AM)
If he actually existed, as a fellow human being I would try, but of course since hes JESUS he wouldn`t have allowed me to save him coz isnt he dying for all our sins. But first i would crack it at him and his god, and let them now just how i feel about what they are and what the human race has done in their names and their religion. But i dont believe he ever existed, so im not going anywhere!
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Wow that's some strong words....
QUOTE(panther10758 @ Sep 13 2004, 12:48 AM)
Depending on where you are time is different example if one was on another planet time is diffrent a day isnt 24 hours etc etc. [right][snapback]264257[/snapback][/right]
Thats incorrect. Time is the same. A day is different, but time is the same. (Well, virtually the same, since the faster you're moving, the slower time is for you, so if you're on a planet rotating faster than the Earth... you're perception of time is slower, but not much.)
Just thought of something. If time travel to the past is possible... its reasonable to assume that someone may have tried to do exactly what this thread is about... save Jesus... and if he did... he failed.
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