Is it psi? Do I have some sort of kenises? I mean, I'm serious... I got a piece of paper to float, in a way. Well, not really float, but attach itsself to my hand. It actually raised off my desk about 1 cm more or less, and then when I raised my hand, it lifted up with it! Would you consider this psi?

Stellar i have observed this before. The truth is, your guess that it's psi is as good as any. My personal take based on experience is that it's simply due to the sticky nature of body oil and sweat. I have seen this occuring with larger objects such as spoons and pots, which is, in my opinion, genuine usage of psi. With such a light object, there is no way of telling if it is oil and sweat or psi. I would look for another way. I would reccomend using a psihweel, which I'm sure you're familiar with from my other thread.

I have already did a psiwheel similar thing. Now I actually got the paper to raise off of the desk (no contact with my hand) and then attach itsself to my hand (my hand was perfectly dry and was not sweaty or oily at all) and it was quite hard to get it off...

You interest me, Stellar, with your ease to alternate your sides between scepticism and belief. I wonder, if another had written those same words, would you pay them any respect?

its a good point misha... im sorta on the edge of this one.... used to you saying that you cant do stuff like that!

if your serious thats cool that your able to that n maybe you will not say that we cant do it. if your not serious not funny. on the edge of the believing n serious side though....

Im with arwen on that one...=/

btw stellar im not trying to be mean but you did go on the thread i created a couple of days back n started saying its impossible so this sparks my curiousity.... i juts felt i needed to say that coz im not its just... well... interesting...


mmmm... i still dont know....

i just spent my time meditating n reasearching the salem witch trials for my coven asignment that i set... its interesting

OMG!!!! You believe in something! Congratulations!

buh?? o wait your talkign aboot stellar believing in something aye? agreed it new n i hope it for real coz that would be cool

eh heh heh im broed.... im mean bored... hey anyone! check out our awesome site it has stuff on tk n psiballs n other wiccany magicky divination stuff! its awesome stuff.. divintation n stuff....

Well, those who know me and my posting habits know that theres another reason for me posting this.



I am serious, and I can do it, and so can everyone else. BUT, it has NOTHING to do with psi, nor controling the paper to levitate towards my hand. It is a scientifically explainable thing... basically along the same lines as rubbing your hear with a balloon and having it lift towards the baloon when the baloon is close enough. So much for the psi.

So, why don't you agree to disagree? You can agree that it can be done, solely because you have done it. Your reasons are scientific, others have an alternative explanation, so what's the problem?

So you purposly rubbed your hand on the balloon for a couple seconds and played with your piece of paper? hmmm.....

A balloon can do it easily because when you rub your hand on a ballon, the ballon on the first place was charged, the ballon simply charged your hand to an opposite charge .

Your hand was at a negative or posotive charge at that time. Now, did you charge the piece of paper to a different charge so that it would attract to your hand ?

Second, how far was your hand from the piece of paper when it was attracted to your hand ? It must be touching your hand and waving like a swing if it did.

-my scientific questions

Ashley: My point is, its not psi. If this is what people are doing, I believe they can do it, yes, but its not psi, its nothing supernatural, and it doesnt permit you to control with your mind when and where to do it and what to do with it. Basically, its not the psi.

Hellfire: Ill answer your questions when I get back home from school.

No, I didnt do anything like that.

How it got charged stumps me, since I wasnt paying attention to what charges me and what doesnt. Its actually this which reminded me of the possibility of just using this method to move the paper.



At this time, it was within a 1 cm after I took the paper off to check what distance it would actually get attracted with enough force to reach my hand.

Do it with the sink. Get a small stream of water from the faucet, smallest you can. Now ease your finger closer and closer to the stream. Don't touch the water! It will touch you.

wow.... Steller, were you thinking of anything related to psi at that time? That might answer the whole thing...

Nope, and its not psi. I cant believe that even after I explain to you thats it simply balloon-hair stuff that happened to me, people here keep saying its psi. Are you people desperate to believe in it or something?

paper is a lot harder to charge too. explain how it charged. you said yourself you have no idea how it got charged so explain that

Ok, your explanation Stellar, to be a veritable one, needs to be able to be recreated.

To recreate this, I'm going to need a psiwheel and a balloon? Correct?

Thanks



Potholer

i'd say so... but stellar said the paper just floated up to their hand....

Like I said, no balloon involved. I also dont know how it got charged because I wasnt paying attention to charging the paper. Even so, I know how it happened because it uses the same principle as the balloon-hair thing. I'll try to charge the paper after school to see if I can figure out how I charged it. Either way, its not psi, its science.

but stellar if youre unsure how the paper was charged how can you be sure that psi didnt have a hand in part of it??

maybe it's psi-ence

heh heh nice.

Please... because I know what the science behind it is! Also, on another note, I've found out that the paper does not necessairly have to be charged to get attracted neither. How do I know its not psi? because I know the science involved, and it has nothing to do with my mind removing or placing additional electrons in my hand.

So basically you're saying you don't know why it did that, you have no idea whatsoever, but whatever it can be it's not psi? It has to be science?

Stellar is trying to draw you into a situation whereby he can make you look foolish and ridicule you for your beliefs and leave himself smelling like roses.
I think you guys should stop humouring him as it only encourages him. Stellar will most likely deny this but if it wasn't his intention to do so he would have stated all facts and relevent information up front so that there would have been no confusion.

*nods* good point oracle. very justifiable too. the way the title is worded is said to be mocking (not neccesarily saying it is) or to be a psi related things saying their a semite believer.

Sheesh, stop hounding me.

Arwen: The way the title is written is just like the way other people write their titles in this section... And your refusal to accept a scientific answer is not a good sign.

im not refusing to accept it i see that it is possible to have a logical answer im saying wot i dont think is science is how the paper got charged. i love science its awesome. haha lol our teacher taught us how to make ice cream last lesson it was yum!

yes but its different for you (title thingy)

As I said, the paper didnt necessairly have to be charged. Either way, are you also gonna blame psi for when you get electric shocks?

Think about what you're saying for a second... you're saying that it was my mind which somehow (without my hand touching the paper) lifted the paper to my hand with some unusual force which hasnt been proven to even exist?

i am merely sating it is a possibility that should remain open

Static electricity. I've had this happen to me all the time, especially at work. Paper cups, plastic lids - they are always sticky to my hands. Static electricity is the first thing that came to mind when read Stellar's topic and as I read on, I discovered I was right.

How is it that your hands become so charged, Last_One?

Umm... I dont know... might have something to do with... whats that word? Friction?

it's not hard

Cause of static electricity

And it is quite possible to generate something like 20,000 to 30,000 volts of static electricity just by walking across a carpet.

vimjams

I'd like to see what happens to the next person walking on that same rug .
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HAHAHA LMAO!

"How is it that your hands become so charged." I know how static electricity works and have given people mini electric shocks (gotta love trampolines ). But, I've never had paper cling to me. Have you? How do you get such strong static electricity? I'm guessing Last_One doesn't go around rubbing her hands on her sweater or carry a balloon.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Last_One


Potholer

I don't know how it happens, it just does. I work in a kitchen around a lot of ovens and microwaves, maybe that explains it?

It happens at school to. In fact, it happens to me a lot. Maybe I have static shock powers!

Interesting topic. Good job Stellar

Or your mind is used to absorbing thermal energy, therefore excess energy is converted into static electricity.

This doesn't happen to me, but it happened to Steller. He didn't rub his hand on a balloon and make something float. It just stuck to him.

It happens often to Last_One, so I guess Last_One has more concentration.

Rubbing my hands on a balloon isnt the only way to charge my hands...

Using psi will charge it up for ya .

I still don't understand. Steller's situation has not yet been solved, because I do not think there is a way to charge your hands at such a point that it will elevate a balloon, and not know about it !!!

Yeah, psi will charge it... if only psi was real...

oooookay, you don't believe in psi......soOoOoOoOo???? I just want to know what charges your hand....is all.......

I think this thread has made it's point . If any-one can give me a reason as to why it should be re-opened please send me a p.m