odinsupreme
Jul 28 2001, 01:27 PM
The climate is changing, animals are dying because of that, but why is it happening? Well, an aliens race wants to live on plante earth, but the climate is wrong, so...change it! They are doing it so slowly that the humans can't see it, and will be suprised after a century that an alien race is living next door! What do you think about this theory??
odinsupreme
Jul 28 2001, 01:28 PM
oooops :o
odinsupreme
Jul 28 2001, 01:29 PM
There is something wrong with the forum!!
pixiedoxen
Jul 31 2001, 10:40 AM
Odin
No pun intended okay!
In my opinion I think that the reason the world is changing, animals are dying and so on is because we humans are causing it to happen! We burn gas, pollute our air, toxicate the ocean, and contaminate earth. Eventually the world will change for the worse, causing climate changes and life to be more vulnerable to diseases, and death.
If Aliens really wanted to take over the planet, maybe they would have already done it.
:)
odinsupreme
Jul 31 2001, 05:59 PM
The people who change the plantet are just friends of the aliens! This is just an hypothetic theory so...
Odin Supreme
Why is the forum so weird???
Saru
Jul 31 2001, 07:16 PM
Odin,
Be careful when using tags, some of them can have adverse affects - the tag lines you included in your original post in this thread had table resizing commands in them, which was why this page was all strange. I've removed the tags now and the page has returned to normal.
I think you probably clicked on the wrong tag button by mistake, which is easily done. If any other threads encounter a similar problem, it's likely to be a table resizing tag that someone has included in their message.
In any case, it's all working again properly now.
:)
Dowdy
Aug 1 2001, 04:25 AM
If Aliens want to inhabit a planet, why don't they go to Mars. Most of the water on Mars is in the soil so if the aliens had the technology to get it out they can live on there. Don't you think that would be easier for everone?
Homer
Aug 1 2001, 10:20 AM
Dowdy
So what you're saying is, that aliens should go live on mars just because it would be easier on everyone?
I bet Africans, Native Americans and Native Australians wished Europeans would have lived somewhere else. That would have been easier on them too.
IF...aliens WERE visiting this solar system, then Earth would most likely be the prize, because not only does it have more water than Mars, but one doesnt need technology to access it. Furthermore, Earth has an abundance of resources that Mars doesn't have.
However, I do agree with your line of thought. If aliens were visiting this solar system, I would rather hope they go to Mars or any other place but Earth. I'm sure they wouldn't travel hundreds of lightyears just to cure what ails us.
Homer[glow=color,strength,width]
pixiedoxen
Aug 1 2001, 12:19 PM
If only we had their high level of technology! If the aliens ever come and try to take over our world we can always go and take over theirs ;D
Dowdy
Aug 1 2001, 01:37 PM
Well if an alien race came here they would of came from other galaxies which would mean that they are highly technological race. And you know what they say 'a highly intelligent race is a peaceful race' (or something like that). So for me the peaceful thing to do is to leave their homeland alone and go somewhere else.
I don't think that they would need any resources if they have nanotechnology and if they needed reasources they can just go to an asteroid. I heard on TV that one asteroid is estimated to have 80 trillion dollars worth of nickel!!
odinsupreme
Aug 1 2001, 01:53 PM
Why would you go on an Asteroid that is flying trough the galaxy with no solid point? Earth is perfect for us, so why not for the little green men (or white, or yellow, or purple, maybe they are no men at all!) And why are higher evolved things peaceful? Humans are more evolved than lions, but we still kill our own kind! There are not many animals that do the same, when they do it, they do it themselves. They aliens also could use human buildings or machines, maybe we become slaves of an other race, like the white people did with the indians and the black people (there where black people that helped the white, so at this moment there are humans that are helping an alien race).
Odin Supreme 8)
Sorry for the wrong tags webmaster.
Jamie
Aug 1 2001, 06:46 PM
I dont think aliens would try to change the climate to kill us off. If they wanted us to die they would just kill us. I agree with pixiedoxen. The reason there are animals dieing and the climate is changing is because of us.
JAMIE
Homer
Aug 1 2001, 07:03 PM
Just as the animals have evolved over millions of years, so too has the Earth itself. The Earth is an ever changing planet, and has always been that way. Many scientists believe that even before a giant asteroid or meteorite hit the Earth, many species were already extinct or on the verge of extinction due to the ever changing climate of Earth. At an earlier point in Earths history, it is believed that volcanic activity was much more severe than it is today, causing a green house effect naturally.
As the climate changes, many species will die off or perhaps evolve into new species that will thrive in the new environment. I'm not saying that humans don't have a hand in the adverse effects, I think that humans are speeding up the natural process.
these are just my opinions, however.
Homer[glow=color,strength,width]
pixiedoxen
Aug 2 2001, 02:04 AM
Homer,
With the extensive damage we have created on this planet, we probably knocked off thousands if not maybe millions of potential years of living.
Dowdy
Aug 2 2001, 06:41 AM
Odin Supreme,
If your wondering why are higher evolved being more peaceful. Well it's simple - peaceful races share information with each other and they are not as parinoid so they will become advanced more quicker. If USA shared info with Russia society will be more advanced.
pixiedoxen,
I don't think it will matter if we knock off thousands of years off this planet because in a thousand years we will probably living on other planets.:)
I got nothing wrong with global warming because it's winter here and it feels like Spring. I hate getting colds in winter ;D
Homer
Aug 2 2001, 09:12 AM
Pixie
Although you got the point I was trying to make, the state of our planet's environmental and ecological condition is not at the point of no return. If people everywhere started using energy efficient divices, reducing energy consumption and recycling ALL THE TIME; and governments working with corporations to develope new ways for cleaner energy consumption, could greatly reduce or even stop the increases of the greenhouse effect.
I know, I know, Im living in a fantasy world. But in THEORY it sounds good, doesn't it?
Homer[glow=color,strength,width]
pixiedoxen
Aug 2 2001, 10:07 AM
Homer,
Don't we all want to live in a fantasy world. Just imagine the things this world could achieve if all our "WHAT IF'S" just came true.
Maybe the world would be a better place, or maybe it would just bring the world more chaos and corruption!
Dowdy,
You're probably right about the fact that maybe the human race could be able to live on other planets. Maybe a thousand years wouldn't affect "us" much (both you and I would be dead by then) but it would certainly affect human life in a thousand years later.
Where I live it is hot! I hate hot weather, I wish it was cold here :(
odinsupreme
Aug 2 2001, 04:10 PM
Ahum...well I know that there is no evidence that humans are changing the climate, at least not without help, and some animals died also of diseases because the continents came together to form a supercontinent. But the point was that aliens could have been helping Humanity to "Kill" other species. Megacorporations have huge power, they are killing all forrests, very weird, why? For the wood only, and to build houses??
Odin Supreme 8)
Manual: tel, 09-876-99867544
Saru
Aug 2 2001, 06:12 PM
Without Global Warming, life on earth wouldn't even exist.
Millions of years ago, the earth fell into a state of deep freeze - the entire planet was encased in ice and snow, as a result of a runaway ice age that spread across the entire planet. Over a very long period of time, volcanoes spewed out large quantities of carbon dioxide, slowly but surely warming up our atmosphere in exactly the same way as is happening today. Eventually it built up to such an extent that the ice began to melt, resulting in a century of the most cataclysmic weather this planet has ever seen. Once the climate cooled down again, everything returned to as it should be, and life began to develop again.
Global warming is a natural process of our planet, and without it we would still be encased in a permanant ice age. What once stopped us from never have existing, may one day in the future result in our annihalation.
odinsupreme
Aug 2 2001, 10:39 PM
Jip, you are right, but isn't the warming speeding up? And there are even scientists that say that the earth is cooling down!
Odin Supreme
Homer
Aug 3 2001, 09:09 PM
Yes Odin, SaRuMaN reiterated a lot of what I said earlier about the green house effect being a natural part in Earths history, and therfore a natural part of life.
Humanity is increasing the rate of the greenhouse effect, there is no question about that. But it is questionable as to the degree of global warming that is caused by humans.
Homer[glow=color,strength,width]
Great Big Sea
Dec 21 2003, 02:24 AM
Odin, aliens aren't trying to 'change' our world I mean we are screwing it up with all of the pollution that we're using and the gaschugers of those darn SUV's that somepeople drive. I mean we're hurting our world and we need to fix it. Before we get another Noah's Ark. If the aliens really wanted to live on our earth then they should come down. The only way we're gonna change our world for the better is if we stand up and clean it! You know carpool and whatnot.
cerberusxp
Jun 19 2008, 05:30 AM
QUOTE (odinsupreme @ Jul 28 2001, 06:27 AM)

The climate is changing, animals are dying because of that, but why is it happening? Well, an aliens race wants to live on plante earth, but the climate is wrong, so...change it! They are doing it so slowly that the humans can't see it, and will be suprised after a century that an alien race is living next door! What do you think about this theory??
First off it's a natural cycle.
2nd If alien race wanted to live here they would be so advanced they would just do it.
On the other hand if there were aliens vying for control of the earth and they are battling each other well!
I think the global warming scare is just one of the ways they are bringing about draconian rule.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv15n2/reg15n2g.html
Wallydraigle
Jun 19 2008, 07:21 AM
Does that mean that the aliens are also causing global warming on Mercury and Mars or is that Americans with their SUVs as well?
itsnotoutthere
Jun 19 2008, 07:43 AM
Not everyone (including me) is convinced that the climate is changing. But it is a good excuse to tax people more.
p.s. I think calling it 'a theory' is rather over doing it.
Agent. Mulder
Jun 19 2008, 05:05 PM
apparently, word on the street is, the temp has hasnt changed much At All since 2001-2002 till now.
Rebelle*
Jun 19 2008, 05:12 PM

...Tao or Dao (道) is the order of the Universe/planet earth/laws of cycle
Quote from bible:...' The End is in the Beginning!'
We,human ,swearing in God's name,disobey HIs words,disrespectfully cursing in his name...HOly *****...Humans kill religion!
Global warming is far more destructive than nature recycle!
There r many evidences that humans are changing the climate...
History itself is repeating again and again for million years!
UFOs sighthings are everywhere ....hybrid children, the new race will use to replace the human race!
My best guess only
p/s:,BTW Im free thinker
itsnotoutthere
Jun 19 2008, 05:58 PM
QUOTE (Agent. Mulder @ Jun 19 2008, 05:05 PM)

apparently, word on the street is, the temp has hasnt changed much At All since 2001-2002 till now.
30 years ago climate scientist were telling us we were heading for a new ice age.
Moro
Jun 19 2008, 06:14 PM
QUOTE (itsnotoutthere @ Jun 19 2008, 01:58 PM)

30 years ago climate scientist were telling us we were heading for a new ice age.
I believe this oversized hoax is finally reaching it's end.
xBananax
Jun 19 2008, 08:01 PM
Global Warming and Global Cooling are natural cycles that have repeated themselves throughout earths history.
While our pollution output could possibly be accelerating the warming process (the degree of acceleration is where you run into controversy and disagreements), it doesn't change the fact our climate will warm on its own naturally over time, with or without humans on the planet.
I think its safe to say aliens are not responsible for it.
Cradle of Fish
Jun 19 2008, 08:20 PM
QUOTE (itsnotoutthere @ Jun 19 2008, 08:43 AM)

Not everyone (including me) is convinced that the climate is changing. But it is a good excuse to tax people more.
p.s. I think calling it 'a theory' is rather over doing it.
Yep, and the autumn heat wave we had this year was just the politicians turning thousands of underground heaters on, just so they can raise taxes.
iSeeDeadPpl!
Jun 19 2008, 08:39 PM
global warming is an excuse for me to say pick up your garbage.
Star Man
Jun 19 2008, 11:05 PM
We may hurt simple forms of space life.
That is the chain reaction which we do not want to be happening.........
read this:
http://ufo-spacelife.blogspot.com/2008/02/...rt-another.html
itsnotoutthere
Jun 20 2008, 07:47 AM
QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ Jun 19 2008, 08:20 PM)

Yep, and the autumn heat wave we had this year was just the politicians turning thousands of underground heaters on, just so they can raise taxes.
erm.......no that would be a 'heatwave'
The last heatwave we had here was in 1976.
cerberusxp
Jun 29 2008, 04:05 AM
Global COOLING for dummies:
PART 1PART 2PART 3Our CO2 output has less than 2% effect on the planet. If what the alarmists are saying then when all the oil wells in Kuwait were on fire it should have heated the planet in the following years by almost 30 degrees over all. Consider that was all unrefined crude. If you believe Al abulance chasing Gore whose daddy blocked the civil rights bill for blacks for 4 years. Then I'll sell you some ocean front property just out side of Denver cheap!
SamWhiteHopi
Jun 29 2008, 05:38 AM
Odin Supreme. I started a thread, UFOs and Native Peoples. The link provided will answer some of your questions.
From my personal research I find the following to be causing weather changes:
Massive pollution by humans egged on by an ET race that has been living here for thousands of years. Yeah, the reptilians. The reptilian race trashes places it occupies, just like humans. Present humankind reflects a lot of their personality traits also. Greedy, self centered, heartless, self consumed, lazy and so forth. But please note, I dont think that there really is much of a global warming due to polution. I see it more from the following.
The weather is also being influenced by the approaching polar shift that has started to occur. Before 2012 there going to be a lot more disasters and so forth.
and it is not science fiction that the bad celestials do have in their possession very powerful machines that can change weather and the environment. Fortunately the good celestials, Pleiadians, have been neutralizing a lot of what the others are doing or we would be in a far worse state then presently experiencing. So no need to panic.
If you do enough reading and cross referencing you will find the common threads to the above. All the pieces are coming together very nicely.
It is MPO also that Mars is already occupied - by the reptilians, and where reptilians are there are sure to be grays. They like it underground, (where some dwell within planet earth fortunately again under the watchful eyes of the good celestials making sure things don’t get too far out of hand).
It is my understanding that Mars was occupied by human like race and the reptilians and they had a war and the reptilians came of best, or the Mars dwellers werent responsible enough to handle the technology and destroyed itself (like planet earth is heading down) but still makes a pretty good home for the reptiles. It is for this reason the present good celestials don’t wish to see a repeat of history taking place on planet earth. Humankind are kin to the Pleiadian race and are not going to just sit and watch. Any one with some info on the Mars civilization collepse I would be interested.
Again, MPO (and that of a growing number who realize that 1+1=2, as the government isn’t going to provide the proof of their own involvement) the Mars trips are not just field trips, they are also liaisons with the reptilian race up there (they need a cover story). And no it is not to advance human race for its own good. But again, they have a date with destiny, that being the good celestials who are far more powerful than can be imagined. The bad celestials can have humans cover up things only for a time, but time is running out for all the deception, thus we see the acceleration of terrible world conditions.
Love and peace,
Sam
SamWhiteHopi
Jun 29 2008, 05:47 AM
I live in the rurals outside of Darwin. The weather here is crazy. We have a wet and dry season. We have had record high temperatures and, though it is the dry season, it feels like it wants to rain and we have the clouds to go with it when there are suppose to be mostly clear blue sky for six months. The two seasons are unquestionably mixed but no rain.
I also noticed a billabong yesterday containing water (it should be nearly dry) full of water lilies that were about to flower. NOT normal. But as seen from my post I don’t blame it on global warming due to pollution. For me it is polar shift and ET interference.
Anyone else got some abnormal weather and nature happening?
Love and peace,
Sam
Omnaka
Jun 29 2008, 07:07 AM
QUOTE (odinsupreme @ Jul 28 2001, 02:27 PM)

The climate is changing, animals are dying because of that, but why is it happening? Well, an aliens race wants to live on plante earth, but the climate is wrong, so...change it! They are doing it so slowly that the humans can't see it, and will be suprised after a century that an alien race is living next door! What do you think about this theory??
They don't want to chang it or take it over, They already have , do you really think your body had come out of primordial stew?
They are our spirit brother, These shells are only for an instant.
Love Omnaka
cerberusxp
Jul 2 2008, 04:19 AM
As for ice cap melting.
I'm melting I'm melting <link
dream raider
Jul 2 2008, 03:35 PM
We are causing pollution, it's quite strange how a human like yourself is unaware of such a known fact.
Educate yourself on this subject,
here.
cerberusxp
Aug 1 2008, 12:08 PM
QUOTE (dream raider @ Jul 2 2008, 08:35 AM)

We are causing pollution, it's quite strange how a human like yourself is unaware of such a known fact.
Educate yourself on this subject,
here.
That chart only goes to 2001, as you can see the trend started to fall. It has fallen since 2001 the pacific has fallen by 3 degrees in the last 6 years. Our atmosphere cannot act as a heat pump, it does not work that way. I studied physics at WSU! We have started a cooling trend. Dress warm this winter!
cerberusxp
Aug 3 2008, 02:57 PM
The largest problem in Global warming is deforestation without replanting, this has become disastrous. So I guess yes man made warming is true but, it is not us driving around it is deforestation. On the other hand the sun is going into a cooling stage for the next 10 to 20 years.
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