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bluelight
Seriously, any skeptics ever stay more than 1 night or a couple of days in a haunted place, like at most 1 month? Or they are too scared to stay there for more than a week? laugh.gif

Staying in a haunted for just one night or a couple of nights would certainly lack to show any activities, don't you agree? rolleyes.gif
Loonboy

Well there is the 2030 project ongoing at Chingle Hall, Lancashire, England in which a study is being carried out on the most haunted building still standing in England, where the study is ongoing until, you guessed it, 2030...

... it's a bit 'hush hush' but it's true.

As for others, some people live in haunted places and have no choice but to stay there for more than one night. There are many threads in this section of the forum. thumbsup.gif
Lonecat
Lonecat here, hello everybody!

I haven't had the opportunity to spend more than one night at any haunted house or any other haunted place, with the exception of a hotel in England last April. I new the place had a long reputation for being haunted as I used to live in the same town. I live in Spain now and have no family in England. However, I had to return there in April this year to pick up some luggage and I decided to take the opportunity to stay there for a night at least. When I booked in I stated that I wanted a single room but one that was haunted. The young lady at the desk asked me how haunted I wanted it to be :"Haunted; very haunted or most haunted and I opted for the most haunted single room. As a good investigator should, when I was shown the room I immediately took pictures covering the whole of its interior. I sensed a "presence" in the room but it was a friendly presence and I slept well. In the morning at about ten I also took a picture of the passage outside my room...just in case. I left the hotel and went around town taking more pictures including one of a purportedly haunted house further up the same street as the one the hotel was in but about three hundred yards further up. When the roll of film was finished I took it in to a shop which developed pictures in one hour. When I collected the pictures I was surprised to find a"luminous intrusion" in two of the pictures taken in the room and the one taken in the passage. There was a similiar intrusion in the picture I took of the second "haunted house". In none of the rest of the pictures on that roll was there anything unusual. I have already posted these pictures on this Forum but I include here the second one to appear inside the room just as a reminder. Some people wrote in to say what they thought about the curtains in the room and seemed more interested in the curtains in the hotel room than the intrusion on the left-hand side of the picture which is a continuation across the room of the form in the previous one.

The reason I did not spend more than one night? I did not want to pay what I considered the exorbitant price of eighty quid (pounds sterling) per night for a pokey little room like THAT! Ghost hunting can be difficult and expensive and I can never find a place where I can stay more than one night at a reasonable price.

I would be delighted to stay for a longer period in any place if I thought I might have more chance of getting any results. Best wishes to all LONECAT wink2.gif
Lonecat
QUOTE(Loonboy @ Sep 12 2004, 11:49 AM)


... it's a bit 'hush hush' but it's true.

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Lonecat yet again,
Sorry, my finger slipped and I sent the same picture twice. Hey Loonboy, that project can't be very "hush hush" by now can it.
Lonecat
bluelight
QUOTE(Loonboy @ Sep 12 2004, 11:49 AM)

Well there is the 2030 project ongoing at Chingle Hall, Lancashire, England in which a study is being carried out on the most haunted building still standing in England, where the study is ongoing until, you guessed it, 2030...

... it's a bit 'hush hush' but it's true.

As for others, some people live in haunted places and have no choice but to stay there for more than one night. There are many threads in this section of the forum.  thumbsup.gif

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And we are talking about skeptics or believers who is studying this? blink.gif
Mel
I am a believer, my husband is skeptic. We have stayed or visited dozens of haunted or mystical places. I have had several experiences. He never experiences anything except one time I did a little experiment. We were in Sedona Arizona and visited a few of the various vortexes. Each of which has it's own special energy. When I asked him how he felt at each of the vortexes we visited, he was on target for all of them. I realize this isn't a haunting experience, but your post made me think, because he is such a skeptic and I drag him to a lot of places that are famous for their hauntings.
Babs
Yeah, really. I stayed in a haunted hotel, but didn't know it was haunted because they didn't advertise this fact and now I believe in ghosts. Before that I had had paranormal experiences, but still didn't believe in ghosts.
Loonboy

I heard about the '2030' project indirectly but it is being carried out by 'Most Haunted's' Jason Karl - parapsychologist. He alleges to be a skeptic but one who is interested in the paranormal.

He'd have to be, he owns Chingle Hall and is running the experiment.

He has a webpage somewhere but it's not widely advertised... huh.gif
dancin'hamster
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Blimey!
Lovely Jason owns Chingle Hall!!!!!!!!!

*faints*

I visited there several times and the experiences totally changed my beliefs. I posted it on here about a year ago...........
I would have loved the chance to do an investigation there with Teddy (an expert on parapsychology) to see if the same things happened.
Perhaps I should e-mail him.........?

I think that most sceptics would jump at the chance to study an alleged haunted house for a few days or weeks.

Hammy x x x
srp1010
Where did this nugget of information come from about JK owning C/Hall ?.
Unless he's aged a great deal and had plastic surgery, then I'd say the hall is well and truely owned by the same guy it has been for many years - I know as he's a very good friend of mine

QUOTE(dancin'hamster @ Sep 14 2004, 07:35 AM)
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Blimey!
Lovely Jason owns Chingle Hall!!!!!!!!!

*faints*

I visited there several times and the experiences totally changed my beliefs. I posted it on here about a year ago...........
I would have loved the chance to do an investigation there with Teddy (an expert on parapsychology) to see if the same things happened.
Perhaps I should e-mail him.........?

I think that most sceptics would jump at the chance to study an alleged haunted house for a few days or weeks.

Hammy x x x
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Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(Loonboy @ Sep 13 2004, 01:33 AM)
I heard about the '2030' project indirectly but it is being carried out by 'Most Haunted's' Jason Karl - parapsychologist. He alleges to be a skeptic but one who is interested in the paranormal.


If I can just correct you there, Jason Karl is NOT a parapsychologist he was so called for his appearences on Most Haunted but thats as far as it goes.
I can confirm however, that he is a sceptic, I have met him a few times and talked about this.

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He'd have to be, he owns Chingle Hall and is running the experiment.


I had heard he was involved with Chingle Hall but not that he owned it??

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He has a webpage somewhere but it's not widely advertised...   huh.gif
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Not sure if you mean this one but Jason Karl

Teddy.
potsy_1985
alien.gif I HAVE IN MY OLD HOUSE IT WAS PRETTY FREAKY ACTUALLY, i was in the house on my own with my friend who was staying the night,

After we watch a film, i turned off all the lights and shut all the doors.( cause i'm paranoid about lights staying on and stuff)

But when i got up in the morning, all the lights were on and all the doors were opened.

my friend was fast asleep well before me and woke up after me and when i asked her about it she never new anything

this happened loads of times my mum has actually blamed me for it but then she found out the history of the house and it turned out a women killed herself in the house and she was scared of the dark and always left the lights on.
minerwilly
Just to clear a few things up......

*Chingle Hall is owned by Trevor Kirkham, a retired professor, and it has been in his hands for the last fifteen years or so.

*The 2030 Project doesn't exist - certainly not at Chingle Hall anyway.

*Jason Karl does not own Chingle Hall, and he hasn't visited there since 1996.

*Chingle Hall is no longer open for guided tours or overnight stays, except in isolated circumstances and with groups who are personally known to Trevor.

Now, going on to Jason Karl's noticeable absence, I shall explain.....

Up until about 1999, Trevor was still working in Canada on a full time basis, and therefore his now late wife, Judy, stayed over here looking after the place. Judy had been suffering from an ongoing illness, and because of that Jason - who was a regular visitor at that time - was asked by the pair of them to live at Chingle and in return help out with the day to day housework as well as providing guided tours to guests. He stayed there for no more than a handful of months. In September of that year, Judy - who hailed from Montreal - returned to her home country for a one month visit, and Jason was left in charge. Rather than looking after the place as was expected, he ran it into the ground. By day he and his boyfriend, Simon, used it as a sordid lovenest, and by night he personally booked huge groups of overnight guests - none of which were mentioned to Judy or Trevor. The huge numbers of drunken fools who stayed there over that period caused all sorts of damage to the place, though mercifully nothing so serious that it couldn't be repaired. But where did the cash go from these visitors? You've guessed it, straight into Mr Karl's pocket. The day before Judy arrived home, Jason realised exactly what he had done and sank into a deep depression. The following day he and all of his things were gone completely.

When he left he took with him what we estimate to be £3000-£4000 of Judy and Trevor's money, as well as a huge collection of some of the most amazing ghost pictures I have ever seen - which in itself was priceless.

Jason Karl is a charlatan. He has no qualifications, no real experience (apart from appearing on a couple of TV programmes), and as far as I can see no psychic ability either. The only thing he has is a tendancy to con, and rip-off, and lie his way through life.

How do I know all of this? Because I was there in the thick of it when it all went off, and with Judy and a couple of other mutual friends we had to try and get everything back on an even keel - which took months.

I have spent years at Chingle Hall in total. The amazing thing for me is that it has turned me into a skeptic. I still believe in ghosts, and have had some unbelievable experiences at Chingl, but from the people that I've met and the things which I've seen them 'experience' I have realised that 99% of what people call ghostly experiences are nothing of the sort. I know the house very well indeed. Sometimes people would run from the place and never return convinced that there was a ghost on the landing banging. This did actually happen from time to time, but most of the time it was simply the heating pipes expanding. Sometimes people would say that they were horrified in the night as they watched a beam of light glide over the wall in the great hall. It was nothing more than the headlights of a car turning around in the car park.

Basically, Chingle Hall is an amazing place and whilst you are not guaranteed to have a ghostly experience there, you are more likely to have one there than in most other places. The fact is though, that if you hear a noise that sounds like the wind whistling through the trees, then it probably is the wind whistling through the trees. The sounds of nature don't just cease because you're in a thirteenth century manor house! original.gif

Just my 2p worth.....

Marc
Princess_Kate
I have only just discovered this thread, which is why I am only replying now.

Jason Karl does not actually consider himself psychic, Marc.

As for the other accusations, why don't you approach him directly? It has taken you 9 years from the time Jason was actually at Chingle Hall for you to make your vicious post (which is ever so nicely hidden away from him). I also notice you have never posted again. Had your bitching session eh?!

If you have an issue with someone, don't be such a cowardly bastard. Approach Jason and tell him to his face all that he did wrong. BTW - leave his sexuality out of it. It's no-one else's business, and what you think means nothing.
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