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cutycub
These are the reasons why they might want us:

1.Curiousity
2.Want to take over our world
3.Want to be friends
4.Has something to do with our history
5.Maybe they might not be 'aliens' at all! Uh oh!

But I know we're not alone...
Unorthodox Thesis
the last two are most possible.
Obviously, nobody here has ever been so zealous to post
about aliens who was serious, than me. I always put my
beliefs on the line, on the cross-fire zones of skepticism,
and what do I get? A power punch from all the skeptics. But,
I guess its just tot teach me not to say my beliefs in public.
_CHIN_
Whenever I post this next story, usually nobody replies. This is an amazing story, especially because it is true. This is one of the reasons why I believe the 'aliens' are devils, their master being satan. I've experienced this myself, so I can say it true for sure.

The Invisible UFO?

One night during the summer of 2001 I was at a friends place by the name of Noah. There was a little bit of a party going on, just a few friends having a couple of drinks, I don't drink by the way. That night I was telling all my friends that were there…. that I could feel negative Chi energy, bad vibes, etc……. and I knew the "it" or more commonly known as the "grey" was watching and listening. I knew this because my friends have been abducted before and I would always tell them about "it" and how "it" works and deceives mankind. And how they mimic God and pretend to be good when they are truly evil. I know this angers the "grey" to the point of madness, because they don't want the truth to come out, so they watch and listen closely to see what Zo's son has to say…… especially around abductees….. I've met a few. The feeling of the presence of evil was deep in my belly, (it was an odd feeling of subtle discomfort and uneasiness) and I could feel 'them' watching, and could feel 'they' were angry with me. I knew this 'energy' was not coming from anyone near by, but rather, a devil near by. I had this feeling for several hours whilst at my friends house. After hanging out for a while with my friends in the house, my buddy Noah and I went outside for a cigarette at about 10:00pm just after dark. There were a few clouds but mostly clear skies. That night I was watching the sky closely… being very aware of the sky above me…… no sooner did I spot something on the edge of a cloud…….. I didn't think "it" was a UFO at first… it was more like a piece of dust on my eye. It was similar to the fluorescent stars that children put on their ceiling…. when you look straight at them, they are dim and barely visible… but when one looks away they become brighter in ones peripheral vision…… only this UFO looked more like two tiny shadows side by side. The weirdest thing was that it was invisible when I looked straight at it!! I had to look slightly away from it to see "it". Well, I watched ''it'' for a while….. whilst ''it'' bobbed and weaved and moved like a piece of dust on my eye. After observing all this I realized that they were watching and listening. Just when I decided to tell Noah (whom was on a cordless phone at the time), "it" shot out of the cloud at about 5 times the speed of an airplane, at this same moment I told Noah to look up and there "it" was…. Noah saw ''it.'' ''it'' was pissed off because I noticed "it". The ship looked like two lights side by side with a space in the middle. When ''it'' flew away I noticed ''it'' was tube shaped because the lights overlapped slightly when ''it'' left. They really screwed up as far as I'm concerned…….. big headed bulgy eyed bastards.

At the time I sensed the 'greys', and had all those thoughts of 'them' watching and listening, and being angry with me, they seemed crazy, and I had a shadow of a doubt. Though I had trusted myself enough, to wonder if what I was thinking.... was real. Only until the UFO shot out of the cloud, did I fully realize that I wasn't just having 'crazy thoughts.' This experience proved many things to me. And I look at it as God and me standing up to satan and causing 'it' to flee in fear. Anyone can do this.

I must add, that during the time in my life when this happened, I was practicing Qigong, or Chi-Kung which is an ancient art of healing, and of 'energy.' Alot of the visualizations and meditations involve the stomach(the center from where chi flows) which is where I felt the evil presence.

Matthew Jason Chin

Unorthodox Thesis
wow! You know, I wrote a story once too! It was about aliens.
peacelover
Mdulin or Crowd:
(as the case may be)

Personally, I am wondering what happened to Mdulin. Mdulin are you coming back to answer any of these questions? Also, I am wondering about your ministries name: "End of the World Ministries". What is this? Is this not a bit negative? Is this a new ministry? Whom are the founders?

Crowd: We all seem to be posting responses here. Whether they are to Mdulin, I can no longer tell. I do have a question though. Do we have proof that God is a man? What if God were a woman?

What if God, demons, aliens and/or satan had nothing to do with one another?

Somehow, I keep thinking of a line from a song, I can no longer remember the name, but the line is: "What if God were one of us?".

Well, everyone have fun.
Thanks
Peacelover
blazer2004
deamons and aliens are not the same sorry to say
_CHIN_
Hey Norman. That story is true, but to someone like yourself it will be false, because that is the only way you can comment on it. You've probably never seen a UFO and believe in false information about UFO's, so when presented with some truth about UFO's and aliens you can't comment on it properly. It just looks like a lie to you. Though I don't blame you. Nobody really knows what happened that day except me, who experienced it. So, nobody can see the significance of it in the way I do.
flyinghigh23
Ashleystarchild- You said: "And, Flyinghigh, just because you ask for a dream and you get it does NOT necessarily mean that it isn't relevant. I'm sure God can answer prayers through dreams, as was said here before, God Himself has said He was given people visions through dreams.

And why would visions of the PAST be any more relvant than the furture, or current issues? What use would God giving visions of the past do? That just don't make no sense."

It does makes sense. This lady is claiming that aliens are demons and that the world is going to be attacked or end based on this vision she had...all I am saying is that you can't expect people to believe that is going to happen, unless she has had many past experiences with visions that turned out to be true-some past experience to verify her current vision. It makes perfect sense. I believe that dreams can be visions from God, but without knowing for sure (like from past visions that came true when asked for) people shouldn't be so quick to say, "God gave me this vision and you'd better listen."

I've asked to have certain dreams or visions as well, and I've had them....but that doesn't mean they're always from God everytime, or just a wishful imagination, and I'm not going to share them and warn people unless I have some reason to believe that they're going to happen (based on past visions that came true for that person).




moe eubleck
Norman :

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wow! You know, I wrote a story once too! It was about aliens



. Moe too has had many adventures with alien kind and is very much interested in your story. Please share this so that we may grow and become wise from Norman's big adventures.
Aquaryus
Since the Earth is quite old, it seems possible that an Earth born race of intelligent beings could have been here a long time ago and might have destroyed the planet, similar to what we as a race are doing right now, and had to leave. If you ever watched Discovery's The Future Is Wild you'll have an idea of where I'm going with this. Ya know the little probe we humans send back once in awhile to see if the planet is once again habitable. Some may ask then, "Where are the fossils from those humans?" That's the point, it's been that long ago that the remnants of them have been pushed far into the Earth's core. This is just one of my many theories. What if aliens aren't aliens at all? Of course, through evolution, they are going to look different from us, but maybe they originated here. Furthermore, if they are checking to see if it's safe to come back here, or even if they are from another galaxy, who would want to come visit a planet where the inhabitants can't get along? Would another species consider us barbaric because we kill our own kind in the name of religion? If you were an alien, would you have wanted to land in Germany in the 1940's and say "hi" to Adolf? Today, would you wanna waste your time trying to communicate with George Bush? Would Mrs. Kerry call you an idiot or a scumbag? If you look at the big picture, our past makes US look hostile, the present makes us look hostile and the future doesn't look anymore peaceful. So, stop worrying about a hostile takeover of the world from intergalactic beings when it's your own species forcing you to look over your shoulder.

grc
CHIN

I believe you saw something on that night but how can you be so sure that you can feel vibes from "them" and they are surely demons? Lets say that u are receptive enough to comunicate with them by telepathy maybe you misunderstood
their message. What makes you think that you can scare them, demons or not?
I find no logic at all.

Aliens are not demons.

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flyinghigh23
Aquaryus,

Well said thumbsup.gif Very good post, and I agree with you grin2.gif
_CHIN_
Hey grc, you're right to ask questions if something doesn't make sense to you. The "vibes" I felt that night were very evident at the time, and I have never felt such a presence since, or before then.

The reason why I believe they were surely devils is due to several other factors. Long before that day, I knew the 'greys' were devils from doing research. When I sensed the presence, it was evil, and I knew it had to be 'greys' or 'aliens' because of the intensity of the "evil"....... and because I think of "them" as devils, that's what I "sensed" them as. Whether they are or not is up to people's individual choice I guess.

I wouldn't have sensed the evil presence if I didn't believe the 'greys' were devils in the first place, and if I didn't believe in God. I could have just ignored the subtle odd sensation in my stomach, and had a few drinks with my buddies instead.

Strange that I sensed the evil coming from the occupants of a UFO. And that I sensed "it" before knowing where "it" was coming from, I only knew that "it" was close by. Until it revealed itself. Yet it is also strange that I sensed they were there because they were very angry with me, and wanted to know what I was telling that family. "they" were angry with me because of what I have to say about "them". satan does not want to be revealed to the world.

The other people that were there with me would have been able to "sense" the UFO occupants as well, if they were aware of "it." The place where I was, was at the house of a Family of abductees, where two of the sons and the Father of the house have had UFO sightings and encounters.

There is no doubt in my mind that the UFO that was in the cloud is where the "evil" was emanating from, which I found out upon seeing the UFO shoot out from the cloud it was hiding behind/in.(even though I already knew the "evil" feeling was emanating from so called "aliens") Remember, the UFO was somewhat motionless for a little while, moving within or behind the cloud while I watched it for a bit. When I turned to tell my friend is when it left at high speed.(Finally revealing itself as a UFO) As if it was watching my every move, got frightened by me noticing and revealing them, and then fled north at high speed, so far and fast that it faded out in the sky within a few moments.

There are about a hundred other reasons why I think 'greys' are deceptive little lying devils controlled by satan, the old serpent, and not space aliens from a distant galaxy here to save us from ourselves. The devil disguises himself as an angel of light........

I don't think what I used was telepathy. I didn't hear any voices in my head. And wasn't receiving messages in the way you might think. I just used my senses and common sense to reveal "them" and where "they" were hiding. Surely I "sensed" they were angry with me, but the reason I "sensed" that, is because that is what I already believed and knew. In other words, if I hadn't of already believed it, I wouldn't have noticed at all. I knew that if anything I knew about 'greys' had some bits of truth in it, 'they' would hate me, and wouldn't want me to tell people about them. I knew that if what that family was telling me was true(the families' house I was at) about their experiences, then the 'greys' or 'devils' wouldn't want me revealing things about them to that family. So I knew, that they might come to "monitor" us in some way, and they did. So.... much of the reason for me 'sensing' "them" is due to what I had already suspected, and not so much strange telepathic -like powers.

Though during that time I was practicing an ancient healing art, called Qigong, or Chi-Kung which involves sensing energy, healing with the hands, being aware of your surroundings, Hard Kung(Gung) -Fu training, etc. Which may have played a roll in why and how I felt the evil presence as well. So it was a mixture of common sense, awareness, belief in GOD, and possibly Qigong that helped me to do what I did.

What makes me think I can scare demons or devils? GOD. And He doesn't make me think it..... He has only shown me how in writing. Now that might bother you, but I look at the Bible in a different way than most.

It is written in the Bible that if you stand up to satan, he will flee in fear from you. If the 'aliens' are 'devils' then applying that same reasoning to the children of satan, which would be "greys", should work just as well. So I applied what is written, stood up to satan/the devils, and made "it" flee in fear from me.

I know I might sound like a lunatic, but if you need me to clarify anything more, just ask. thumbsup.gif

Here's some new 3D 'alien' artwork I made the other day, still not done yet.

And damn.. it's ugly. It's a depiction of a "grey" without its helmet on.

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Kryso
Strange this thread is about demons really being aliens. I wrote a book, called – THE SOUL REAPERS, and in this book I use this idea as a twist. But it is purely fantasy in the case of my written creation.
grc
CHIN

Though we have different opinions, thanks for the explanation and btw SUPER pic !!!! thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif


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mdulin2004
Why God Called Me
to Expose UFOs

November 15, 2004

By: Michelle Dulin


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To be honest, I don't know the entire reason why God called me to expose UFOs, all I know is the journey I've been on and I will share it with you.

First I will tell you that God showed me in a vision about seven years ago that aliens exist and they are demons. The word that He gave me, They are Coming and They are Not Nice.

Dealing with the UFO phenomena has been somewhat challenging for me due to the stigma related to it. Sometimes I believe God called me to expose it, just to test me. To see if I would.

Sometimes I have felt insecure and asked God for confirmations that he was truly calling me to do this work and he has met me every time.

Like last night for instance, I said in my heart, Lord, if you are truly calling me and want me to continue exposing the alien/demon connection would you confirm it again.

Having forgotten I even prayed this prayer, this morning, I unsuspectingly ran across a Channel 8 News Broadcast of a UFO sighting over Iran. Ordinarily this would not have meant much to me, except the UFO footage in this report looks identical to the one God showed me in a second vision!

(see web page to view pics: Prophecy Watcher

This is a picture of the UFO shot in the news broadcast presentation. Identical to a picture I found shortly after I had my second UFO vision below. Both pictures are identical.

I found this picture after doing research on the blue orb in my second vision. It confirmed to me that what I saw was real. The amazing thing about this whole situation is before I had the vision of this blue orb UFO, I didn't know that UFOs appeared this way. By seeing this second orb after I prayed and asked God for a confirmation, I know he is telling me I'm on the right track.

He is telling me that these things are out there and they are manifesting to people exactly the way He showed me.

Vision of the Blue Orb

I dreamed that Brandon and I were camping and we were looking out of our tent at the sky. Brandon said look, and he pointed at the sky. There was a bright neon blue light that was moving very quickly across the sky. It was somewhat transparent and it looked like the moon except it was blue. As it moved closer to the trees it transformed into vehicle appearance similar to what a flying saucer or space ship might look like. It still looked like it was made out of neon blue light.

As it dissapeared behind the trees, suddenly a helicopter flew right near it and hovered over the trees. The helicopter had USA on the side of it along with some other words. Suddenly we looked ahead of us and we saw an alien lurched on top of a car. He was in a catlike position as if he was about to pounce. There was an officer standing in front of him with a flashlight. The alien looked exactly like the ones many claim to have seen. Skinny, large head and big black eyes.

Brandon and I began to rebuke the devil and take the authority of Jesus. Then we put on sneakers and prepared to run. End of dream.

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In the Beginning


When I had the first Vision of Two UFOs hovering in the sky, God specifically told me to write down everything I saw and warn people that aliens exist and they are demons. He told me, They are Coming and they are Not Nice!

At the time I didn't know one person who agreed with me. I never heard of the idea that aliens were demons. I thought everyone believed they were from outerspace.

One day I was walking through grocery store, I was talking on my cell phone about the Tower of Babel and how I believed God was showing me that our Space Program was a modern day manifestation of the Tower of Babel.

A little old man overheard me talking and pulled me to the side. He asked me if I knew about the Great Tribulation and the Battle of Armageddon. I was like, are you kidding me? These issues seemed to be my purpose in life, end time bible prophecy.

At that point, I started wondering if this guy was an angel because I had no doubt he was sent from God. He said he had some videos he wanted to give me. When I opened up the bag of videos there was one called UFOs: The Hidden Truth.

God had placed in my hands without any intent on my part, the most important documentary on UFO history that has ever been produced. After viewing this video one will have no doubts that UFOs exist, but more than that he follows through with the message that Aliens Exist and They Are Demons!

As you can see by now, this is not a fascination or preoccupation of mine. This is an outright calling and the message is clear.

Aliens are Demons
Vision of Two UFOs

The Lord has put it upon my heart to proclaim that Aliens do exist and they are demons. I received this revelation in 1997. Up until that time, I personally felt that aliens existed because so many people had testified that they had seen them. However, I thought they were probably beneveloent creations from another planet, being that God was a creator, I didn't think he stopped creating with us.

However the Lord would eventually prove me wrong. While studying bible prophecies and relevant material, I happened across a book about a lady who had a message from God. She predicted world war III, the end of the world and the return of Jesus Christ. So of course I was interested in what she had to say. Until I found out she received all her revelations from an ALIEN.

At this point I became slightly intrigued. Who was this alien? Where did he come from? What was his source? I began to realize this alien had a very good knowledge of the bible. I also began to recognize that he operated in the same way that demons do. This alien claimed to be an angel sent to our planet from God. However, this alien was peculiar to angels in the bible. This angel inhabited the bodies of humans, like demons do!

I never read in the bible where any angel ever entered into the body of a human being except for fallen angels of Lucifer! I began to realize that this poor woman, because of lack of knowledge concerning the scriptures had been duped. This scripture came to mind:

2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

I just kind of kept it to myself until later that year I had a vision. I saw two UFO's over my neighborhood. They were extremely large. As large as the neighborhood itself. They hovered there making a humming sound. They pulsated as if they were breathing. They had an orange glow, however they were somewhat transparent. You could see through them. They reminded me of sea creatures, maybe sting rays.

I was very afraid. I could see them and so could everyone in the neighborhood. I thought to myself I must get in the house and get all the children together and pray.

There were others in the house with me. I knew that they realized that for the first time in their lives they realized that what I had been predicting about the end of the world all these years was really true. However, I didn't have time to explain. I had a strong sense that our lives were in danger.

I can't explain to you the terror that I experienced. These beings were on the street, they were coming to get us. I could hear their feet smacking the ground like webbed duck's feet. They had long skinny fingers and they were orange like the space crafts. They were also transparent. You could see through their skin.

They got into the house with us. We couldn't keep them out. I could read their thoughts and they could read mine as well. I was calling on the name of the Lord and I was afraid for my life. For the first time in my life i wanted a gun. I wanted to protect myself and my children. I was extremely afraid but I knew who to call on. I began to call on the Lord to save us.

I want to interject here that I know that God has not given us the spirit of fear, but I believe this is why he allowed me to have this vision. He wanted me to experience the terror that is to come so that I can warn all of you to be prepared. It is easy to say God has not given me the spirit of fear while you are sitting comfortably in your living room. But you try saying it while you are experiencing a supernatural demonic invasion where your life and the life of children are being threatened.

The terror that I experienced in this vision was tremendous because it was undeniably real. The fear was so overpowering that I came out of the vision because of my inability to take anymore.

Immediately I was impressed to chronicle everything that I experienced. I knew that I had a vision from God and that he was trying to warn us of what was coming. But then I began to seek the Lord. Where was this in the bible? Why is it that I never heard of anything like this before? Then this scripture came to me:

Revelation 12:7-12 "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

I realized that Satan had not yet been kicked out of heaven like we had been taught. When he was in the garden with Adam and Eve he had not yet deceived the whole world. Adam and Eve were the first to be deceived.

Secondly, he had been the acuser of the brethren. The same way he had acused Job before God. The scriptures tell us that Satan appeared before God to acuse Job, if he had been kicked out of heaven and there was no place found for him there anymore, he would not have been able to appear before God during that time.

But the day is coming, when Satan is going to be physically cast down to earth with his evil angels and he is going to have great wrath because he will only have a short time. That will be during the Great Tribulation period for it is for an appointed time and the time has been cut short. For if the time were not cut short, no flesh would survive:

Matthew 24:21-22 "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

Satan knows that he is going to be cast out of heaven once and for all. He knows the time is coming when he will have free reign on the earth and he will not have to appear before God to seek his permission to torture and to kill the inhabitants of the earth. He is going to go on a rampage to such an extent that if God did not cut the time short, no man would on earth would survive. But because of the church, God is going to cut the time short.

Due to the fact that Satan knows he is coming, he is preparing mankind for his arrival. He has been making preparations for quite some time. The purpose of this narrative is to expose his evil plot to as many who are willing to listen in order to prepare them for what is coming.

There has been much disinformation about UFO activity and the seriousness of what is going on. The media has sensationalized UFO sightings and abductions to trivialize the activity and lull the world to sleep to what is truly going on. The truth of the matter is that many people around the world have been abducted by aliens and many more have seen flying space crafts The government and NASA have acknowledged UFO activity and many astronauts have witnessed UFO's while doing missions.

If you have read this far, you probably don't need anybody to convince you that aliens do exist. Something inside you tells you this is true as it did to me. Since I have begun to look into this matter I have found a true alien agenda that is totally in line with biblical prophecy. It has a lot to do with the New Age Movement, the Masonic Lodge and the New World Order, three massive Satanic movements.

Karen's Dream

I want to add Karen's Dream of an Alien Invasion because it definitely rings true in my spirit and bares witness with what God has shown me. It is no coincidence that I found her dream. God wants us to prepare for what is coming.

I had this horrific nightmare last night, unusual because I rarely have a frightening dream, and especially one that is so coherent. I wish I could have posted earlier, but this has been such a busy day - and I really didn't even remember I had this dream until something reminded me earlier tonight.

At this point, I only remember snatches of it. It started out right before something was about to happen, something that I and others had been preparing for, but that most people had only just learned of.

It was an invasion of some kind-an alien invasion, or at least the threat was from creatures not like us - and people were completely helpless in the face of it. The scene switched from a city, not one I knew or even one that really exists, to people fleeing in cars, trucks, campers. It seemed to be by the sea somewhere, but there was desert, too.

I was with one or two other people I knew, but I can't remember who they were. I had some way of recognizing where these aliens were hidden - I mean, it's not like they arrived in a spaceship. They were simply just here among us. I can't explain it beyond that. I also had some way of neutralizing whatever they did that could kill people. I had some salve or spray or something that if I used it right away I would not be killed by what they did. But I only had three doses of whatever this was, so I and my friends had to be extremely careful and try to get away to the safe area (wherever that was, I've no clue).

I was hiding with my friends in a camper, and I'd told my friends not to show their faces, not to go outside - but they did. And one of these "things" all in black rubber found me, so I had to use one of my three doses. The dream ended somewhere around this time, in which I was worried - and knew that the two doses I had left would not be enough to save me and my friends.

Very unusual, as all the regulars here know, for me to post a dream. But this dream FEELS like a precognitive dream, not one that's just a product of my subconscious.

Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Subtemperate
God called me once...asked me if I wanted a new telecommunications carrier..... laugh.gif

Janiel
I too, have been called by 'god'.
But, unforunaltly, my cell phone was turned off.
The aliens rulers at my local 'Sprint' store refused to give me back my phone, instead they gave me what i now call "the brick".
this phone is about as large as a brick and as heavy as one too.
after about a week with my brick, god called back. telling me to go back to the 'Sprint' store.
so i went.
when i got there, the alien rulers were kickin back with jesus.
They wanted me to kick back with them.
so i did.
after about three hours, dont ask me where the time went as i will NOT tell you.
anyway, after those three "lost" hours i went home, god called again, asking why i poured cat litter on his lawn. before i could answer, he hung up. this angered me, why would i do such a thing. so i headed to his house, lucky for me, he's my neighbor. i knocked on his door.
once.
twice.
thrice.
four times.
five time.
he finally answered.
"Hi" i said
he glared at me like an angry mutt and said "I DONT WANT ANY GIRL SCOUT COOKIES!!!"
this saddend me, because, usually when i show up in the girl scout costume it jazzes him. but not today. today he was not a happy god.
so i walked in his house anyway.
"Hi Janiel, how are you?" he asked, as if he never yelled at me
he seemed grumpy, as he was smitting random people...
whats wrong god?
"my sons a pot head" he cried
"aww, its ok, hes a cool pot head" i replyed
this did not make him happy.
he handed me his smitting stick
"GO SMITE HIM, NOW!!" he roared at me.
"yes, sire, right away''' i mumbled in fear.

i arrived at jesus's house, i walk in, and there he is. stoned as can be...
"hey....jesus...."-i muttered
"WAZZZZZZZZZZZZUP!!!!!!!" he cried
"um nothing much, wanna do me a favor?" i asked
"sure buddy, anything" he said
"ok, close your eyes" i said
so he closed his eyes
i pulled out the almightly Smitting stick and smitted him
with a big "poof" he was gone...
i havent seen him since.....



The moral of this story?
Cell phones are evil....
Mad Manfred
Mmm hmm.

Tell me, you can contact this god at any time you wish? And he responds straight away? That's cool.

Tell you what, ask him to do something to prove he's a god. Water into wine, that kind of thing, heck, ask him to turn your monitor into a gecko. Make him prove it. If he's a god then he should be able to in a snap.

What makes you think this is your true god to begin with? It may very well be one of your demons pulling your leg. Sounds like something a demon would do.

Anyway, get him to do some tricks for you, if he pulls it off, then he's a god, you can trust him. If not, then either you're imagining it or it's an extradimensional being having some fun.


PS. what exactly did demons do that was so bad that everyone hates them so much? Unprotected sex? Killing evildoers? Practacal jokes? Hell, I'd love to be a demon, seems like the funnest job in the world!
Raydon
I don't even know what to say! *shakes head* Hell is supposed to be below us or maybe right here on our level but these aliens are comming from above
or are you saying that they are flying up to us instead of them flying down to us?

If lucifer was cast down that means his demons are also down and people look up to the planets to see ufos. Is there some type of portal that they are flying up from? that is somewhere on the surface of our planet? or wait if there is another dimension then why do they need to fly?

Couldn't they just walk into our dimension or make a ladder and climb up? abduct.gif see note they are taking some up not pulling them under!
Magikman
You already started a thread a couple months back regarding the same subject, mdulin2004, I've merged your post with that.

MM
mdulin2004
The reason I have not replied to any of these posts is because I have received any notifications and my posts have been moved to other forums and they are hard to find.

And yes, I am trying to save somebody, anybody who will listen. Am I interested in arguing with your or debate, no. You are free to believe what you want, and I am not interested in expressing my personal opinions, they are meaningless.

I simply shared what God told me to share, the rest is up to you. Good bye.
gryphon_2005
QUOTE(mdulin2004 @ Sep 13 2004, 11:50 PM)
In 1997 God told me Aliens Exist and They Are Demons.  He gave me a vision where I saw two UFOs.  I detailed the dream on my website.

I have been praying for a dream or a vision about the prophecy and the end times.  My husband and I go camping to hear from God.  This weekend we went camping and I had another vision in the form of a dream. 

Below is a copy of an email describing the dream.  I did some research on what I saw and amazingly found a photo on this site of exactly what I saw.  It was a Blue Orb.

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Blessings,

As some of you already know in 1997 the Lord gave me a vision of two UFOs and told me Aliens are Demons, They are Coming and They are not Nice.

Recently I've been praying for more dreams and visions concerning the end times and last night I dreamed of this.  I know this dream is from the Lord.  It had the characteristics of a vision exactly like I had before.  It was extremely vivid and I was more of an observer of the events than an actual participant although I did experience intense emotion as a reaction to the things I saw.

I dreamed that Brandon and I were camping and we were looking out of our tent at the sky.  Brandon said look, and he pointed at the sky.  There was a bright neon blue light that was moving very quickly across the sky.  It was somewhat transparent and it looked like the moon except it was blue.  As it moved closer to the trees it transformed into vehicle appearance similar to what a flying saucer or space ship might look like.  It still looked like it was made out of neon blue light.

As it dissappeared behind the trees, suddenly a helicopter flew right near it and hovered over the trees.  The helicopter had USA on the side of it along with some other words.  Suddenly we looked ahead of us and we saw an alien lurched on top of a car.  He was in a catlike position as if he was about to pounce.  There was an officer standing in front of him with a flashlight.  The alien looked exactly like the ones many claim to have seen.  Skinny, large head and big black eyes.

Brandon and I began to rebuke the devil and take the authority of Jesus.  Then we put on sneakers and prepared to run. (end of dream)

At this point, I believe the Lord keeps showing me these things because he wants his people to be aware that these manifestations are happening and they are about to become a reality to everyone.  Sightings, abductions and crop circles are real.  They are called phenomenons but they are very explainable and have been confirmed by many as demonic activity.

This is a very dramatic deception that is occuring in our generation and is preparing to deceive all mankind.  These are signs in  the heavens (UFO's) and signs in the earth (crop circles) and angels of light (demonic beings/aliens).  Be aware that these things are happening and God's word is true.

There is one true God and creator of mankind, one mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ.  Besides Him there is no other.

Things are going to begin to become very unbelievable in our generation.  Take heed to God's word and beware of lying signs and wonders whose intent is to deceive.  Pray that God deliver you from the hour of temptation that is about to try the entire world and that He give you strength to endure until the end.  He that endures unto the end, shall be saved.


Michelle Dulin
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End of The World Ministries
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It is INDEED very unfortunate that many people resolve (ever so passively) to their "elders" or ... highers ... that ANYTHING out of the ordinary is suggested by the Devil or Demons. It goes back to my statement (of my OWN NEAR DEATH Experience) -- that there are many who selfishly "guard the gates" and prevent deserving people from passing through to the "light".

I am NO AUTHORITY on anything -- I deal with common sense and personal experience.
WHO .... WHAT .... WHERE .... etc ... we must first ask ourselves that question and RESOLVE to be OBJECTIVE. IF a "voice" told us to lead a flock of people in righteous name -- OVER A CLEFT and down to doom ... are we to say this is GOD?! Or God's Voice?

Perhaps there are those who CAN lead us to that light -- but remaining behind are those who are jealous, selfish and motivated to capture your very essence. DO YOU FOLLOW the OLD Testament which says ... "THOU SHALT NOT KILL!" .... or the NEW -- which some people say .... "Kill them for they are of the Devil!".

I abhore IGNORANCE! I see this in every sect and religious "perfection" group that plays on their "being right"!.

PLEASE LEAVE motivation behind and accept that what you were told .. MAY NOT be the truth. OR -- to be blunt ... WHAT IS THE TRUTH?!

DO NOT condem the "Greys" (if you will) -- for they are like ants or bees. EACH, when born into the HYBRID world -- or universe - has its speciified MISSION ... and they are NOT AWARE of the WHY -- they just do it. It is a harmony very few know of -- nor accept.. How Indeed unfortunate that many humans STILL LIVE IN THE DARK AGES!
YET! WE HAVE A GIFT that many do not have ... that gift is common sense and reason! LET's NOT give it away to superstition, fear, loathing, hatred ... and all else that defines .. The very DEVIL we chase!!!

"Some chase the Devil for sport - in ultimate religious zeal. No stone unturned .. no fires wasted for the heathen! All Laws against the Devil! Slash! Burn! Torture until they confess their Heathen ways! Turn ALL Laws until the Devil runs! Kill those unbelievers!!" (WHERE does that laughter REALLY COME FROM?)

NOW ... when the Devil realizes that ANARCHY takes place -- and many of the INNOCENT have perished .... he turns upon those very people who started the fires!
WHAT LAW can they turn to now to protect themselves??

WHO we pray to .. How we pray ... matters little. WHAT LAYS IN THE HEART will get that message through.

Sad, so sad that a simple book could effect people so much, so many ways.... and STILL the Devil LAUGHS each and every time we point our sword at our OWN brothers and sisters. IN THE NAME OF GOD!!!!

Yes! We really ARE ready for Space!! Aren't we!?

Sorry for the cruel response ... but I've been through it far too many times and it hurts to see such wonderful and beautiful people falling for such ... CLAPTRAP!

Salem -- The INQUISITION (et al) -- has passed ... or has it??

=========== NEVER-THE-LESS!

Keep your mind OPEN and accepting for a "light" that many people refuse to look upon. The "DEMONS" you may be so afraid of .. may be the very kindest and most understanding entities you may ever encounter! WHO TOLD YOU TO BE AFRAID?

Our deeds are measured in WHAT WE DO to effect others. HOW WE DO our deeds also reflects. The GOOD or BAD is measured in the outcome ... judge that and NOT what your fears are.

God Bless and take care!

Fear ONLY IGNORANCE!

From the - dimly lit - Gryphon's Lair

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Stellar
QUOTE(mdulin2004 @ Nov 16 2004, 12:02 AM)
The reason I have not replied to any of these posts is because I have received any notifications and my posts have been moved to other forums and they are hard to find.

And yes, I am trying to save somebody, anybody who will listen.  Am I interested in arguing with your or debate, no.  You are free to believe what you want, and I am not interested in expressing my personal opinions, they are meaningless.

I simply shared what God told me to share, the rest is up to you.  Good bye.
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And how do you know it wasnt a dream, or better yet, the devil who showed you it?
Falco Rex
Many,many people have claimed to have had God speak to them in the past. Count up all the stories you've personally heard in your life and subtract any that didn't end with you saying..
1. Whoa, that guy was nuts.!
2. Those poor bastards..
3. Who in the world would believe that?
4. This just makes religion in general look bad.
Now subtract those from your total and what's left?

Probably not much...
kikuchiyo
you know what's funny god doesn't talk directly to some one. God uses other voices like Arcangels or divine muses.

It would be seen as heresy by the vatican to say that god talked to you. Unless your are like Moses then, they might give you some credit.
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on an other note, medical attention may help you deal with it.
ninj
QUOTE(grc @ Sep 24 2004, 04:01 PM)
CHIN
 
        Though we have different opinions, thanks for the explanation and btw SUPER pic !!!!    thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif   


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Ya cool picture , the picture looks alot like the one that Jonathan reed said he seen but that incident was proven to be a fake. I dont know if the grays are devils or demons but anything or one that wishes to do you harm or ill effect is doing something evil. Doing something right or wrong all starts with a thought and if you act on those thoughts then you too are evil. Just an idea to think about. original.gif
Unorthodox Thesis
Aliens are not demons. Ok.
People around here don't even believe in
aliens let alone demons. Besides just because
some aliens look different does't mean that
they're evil.
Stellar
Its kind of funny... people say "Aliens are evil" as if there was only 1 species... If there are aliens, chances are there arent all evil...
gryphon_2005
QUOTE(Stellar @ Nov 16 2004, 07:26 PM)
Its kind of funny... people say "Aliens are evil" as if there was only 1 species... If there are aliens, chances are there arent all evil...
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I think it may be the other way around! Perhaps many species AVOID this Planet because of OUR EVIL!
Can one really imagine monitoring our broadcasts from space and seeing the things that come across our TV of late?!

I can hear them now: "Hell! That's what it is down there!!".

Am I wrong??

There IS a species of Alien that is Hostile -- but NOT evil .. and they are ... well we have no worries about them so far!

There was once a time when anything considered "EVIL" was burned or destroyed - as were certain people burned alive for the "wrong thinking"[Salem!?] ! Epileptics were considered EVIL and Possessed of the Devil. THAT was evil! Murdering people because of the fears involved!

We had better look upon our OWN Selves in that mirror before we lay claims to something else being EVIL.

From the Gryphon's Lair
Athenian
How odd... huh.gif In my dreams aliens are fun, easy-going, and cheerful comrades you could probably throw a party with... Does this mean I am evil? Or does it mean anyone who fears aliens, thinks their demons, or gets abducted and perused by them, are evil? Is there even any evil to begin with?
gryphon_2005
QUOTE(Athenian @ Nov 17 2004, 12:29 PM)
How odd...  huh.gif  In my dreams aliens are fun, easy-going, and cheerful comrades you could probably throw a party with... Does this mean I am evil? Or does it mean anyone who fears aliens, thinks their demons, or gets abducted and perused by them, are evil? Is there even any evil to begin with?
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It seems that ANYTHING strange, unrecognizeable .. or "alien" (if you will) is labeled EVIL.

It is simply fear of the unknown.

Certain species of alien ARE jovial - but only as a reflection to our own humor.

[Party is not a bad idea!! Gotta watch the "finger food" though!]

The Gryph

gryphon_2005
QUOTE(kikuchiyo @ Nov 15 2004, 11:15 PM)
you know what's funny god doesn't talk directly to some one. God uses other voices like Arcangels or divine muses.

It would be seen as heresy by the vatican to say that god talked to you. Unless your are like Moses then, they might give you some credit.
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Would this be the SAME GOD who "tells" people to go out and commit mass murder? I would rather think that if "God talked to me" -- I would say it is a waste of time!! I would NOT listen. Especially if [HE] tells me to do something that contradicts the "Thall Shalt Nots" of the Old Testament.!

Keep posting Buddy!

From the Gryphon's Lair
kikuchiyo
Plus I don't think they present them selfs has : hey i'm god and i want you to (blahblah...). In never had a "god talking to me" moment, but if we read the stories of people that have heard a message from god ( Lot, Moses, The Virgin Marie etc.) it's usually a character who acts as messanger from god.

In my case if i would hear the "voice" i would seek for medical help and rest.Plus Gryphon is right, If god contradict him self...that would be rather odd.
gryphon_2005
QUOTE(kikuchiyo @ Nov 17 2004, 11:16 PM)
Plus I don't think they present them selfs has : hey i'm god and i want you to (blahblah...). In never had a "god talking to me" moment, but if we read the stories of people that have heard a message from god ( Lot, Moses, The Virgin Marie etc.) it's usually a character who acts as messanger from god.

In my case if i would hear the "voice" i would seek for medical help and rest.Plus Gryphon is right, If god contradict him self...that would be rather odd.
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In measured doses of common sense .. to "hear" (or receive telepathically) a message purported to be from "God" -- we have to judge the outcome ..... YES! QUESTION the why and not deliver that "message" blindly. All thoughout history -- many "messages" of God have resulted in mass deaths , chaos, and WARS! It should be simple to note the DEEDS that violate human decency - laws of passion and compassion - and love for fellow man - NO MATTER the differences. A LOVING GOD would have NO PART of us unleashing violence agiainst another human .. no matter the differences of our beliefs. MORALS! Inbred within ALL of us is a moral conscience that tells us to THINK TWICE before we pull the trigger.

The BIGGEST Laughter comes from that "Little Devil" who confounds the meek and naive -- yet uses "GODS's VOICE" for those little deeds! I think that when a person goes to a MALL and shoots up people because "GOD TOLD HIM TO" -- needs to be reckoned with.

A GOD with human emotion of anger and jealousy? Sounds FINITE to me!

What's even worse are those who "CLAIM" to hear God's voice and lead a people to their deaths. Like Jonestown, Guyana. Those who follow BLINDLY to the slaughter are just as guilty for their blind ignorance -- there were COMMANDMENTS set upon a chosen people. Perhaps we should realize that it may apply to ALL OF US, no matter our religious -- or even NON-religious beliefs. Even Agnostics (as I am) - and Atheists -- have a conscience. BUT DON'T CALL ME A SINNER just because you got "saved" and went to the local BAR at noon on Sunday to celebrate! (This applies to those who are self-righteous and condemn all others because their beliefs are NOT inclined with our own!).

Sorry guys -- just a 'Pet Peeve' -- I've had my fill of those "Born Again" Zombies who attack you with "Have you heard the word?" - or "Have you been saved?"

I think we have seen that here in the Forums a few times -- and it has no place on objectiivity. There is a time and place for that -- but NOT to condemn others for their beliefs. OR - NON-beliefs!

OK -- I vented .. but there are some who will NOT grow up and recognize that the WORLD is a lot bigger than the "Security Blanket" of King James!

From the Gryphon's Lair as I dust off my copy of Hermes Emerald Tablet
Insight
I tend to side with the fact that Aliens are of a fallen angel origin.

From what I have studied in regards to the Nephilim, some fallen angels were cast down to earth in the beginning of the earth, and took the form of human giants. They interbred with the human race so extensively, that God himself caused a flood, killing off the evil genetic lines, and preserving the ones of purity, which was Noah and his family. However, the women of this family were not nessesarily of pure genetic makeup.

It is also possible that not all the fallen angels, or demons, took up this form on the earth at the beginning, and have since taken it up.

From what I have learned, these beings are cold and logical, without eternal soul, and governed by their war against god, and his creation, whether it be unfallen angels, or humans. This "races" could easily surpass man in technology quickly using it's supernatural strength.

Also, in the Bible, after Adam and Eve were cast out of Eden, and the earth was cursed, it makes no mention of Adam and Eve's daughters, only their sons. Perhaps the ancient demonic race called the nephilim offered them technology to make their toils easier in exchange for sex with their women.

A tidbit that coincides with this theory is the fact that there is no archeological evidence with accounts for any culture inventing the bow and arrow. That technology, as far as we can tell, sprouted of it's own accord, and became something that "always was" and was overlooked.

Aliens are demon/fallen angels? It makes sense to me. A race that is superior to us, living along side us, attempting to manipulate the human race to cause the damnation of souls through occultic and questionable secret governments such as masons, the illuminati, and others.

Food for thought for sure, but a developing theory also.
Insight
as far as God speaking to people, why would god limit himself to communication of audible language to get his point accross. He himself states that he works in mysterious ways.

Plus, the human language has been greatly polluted. I'd imagine that before the fall of man, Adam had a pure language in which he could directly comminucate with god and relay as much information as quickly as was needed. This theory explains how he would be able to give name to the animal species (And God brought forth to man every animal to see what man would call them)

Remember, the english language was created by man a few hundred years ago. Evidence of the pollution of our language lies in the observation of the many different forms of communication all accross the world, including sign language.

This greatly hinders the passing of information between mankind, as was God's intent when we split the original single language of man (which existed before the tower of bable). He did this to slow/change/or further man's existance, possibly so he would not destroy himself. Or possibly because man was uniting in evil against him.

Nowadays, it only makes sense to me that if God truely speaks to people, he does it in a way that is perfect for the INDIVIDUAL at that speciffic time. Since everyone is different, there are many different ways. And since people share similarities, there are also common ways.

Also, I believe that unless one walks in faith with God, and accepts him into their lives, it's difficult for them to understand the many different ways he is able to speak to them.
Apocalyptic Cryptid
QUOTE(Stellar @ Sep 14 2004, 11:39 AM)
Right, and, what makes your "vision" any more correct than any other "vision" people where God told them to go out and kill people?


God does not go against his word... and that is a way you can tell it is god... not evil.....God wont tell you to go kill people when he said in his word you should not kill.....kuzz then he would have been lying which he also said was a bad thing so if he was to go back on what he said in the bible it would cause a chain reaction of things that he was going against......

whistling2.gif Remember this is coming form a 15 year old so...thats what i was taught....and whatever whistling2.gif
Stellar
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God does not go against his word... and that is a way you can tell it is god... not evil.....God wont tell you to go kill people when he said in his word you should not kill.....kuzz then he would have been lying which he also said was a bad thing so if he was to go back on what he said in the bible it would cause a chain reaction of things that he was going against......


God ordered people to kill others in the bible... he even flooded the world, according to the bible...
Insight
God ordered HIS speciffic people to kill those of polluted geneology.

Only God has the power to judge a person in this plane, which he did through the actions and destruction of his people.

Also, the flood's purpose was to preserve Noah's unpolluted geneology, and destroy the polluted genes of those who had crossbread with the Nephilim, a demonic race of giants which exist in the beginning of time (and maybe even today).
gryphon_2005
QUOTE(Insight @ Nov 19 2004, 02:58 AM)
I tend to side with the fact that Aliens are of a fallen angel origin.

From what I have studied in regards to the Nephilim, some fallen angels were cast down to earth in the beginning of the earth, and took the form of human giants. They interbred with the human race so extensively, that God himself caused a flood, killing off the evil genetic lines, and preserving the ones of purity, which was Noah and his family. However, the women of this family were not nessesarily of pure genetic makeup.

It is also possible that not all the fallen angels, or demons, took up this form on the earth at the beginning, and have since taken it up.

From what I have learned, these beings are cold and logical, without eternal soul, and governed by their war against god, and his creation, whether it be unfallen angels, or humans. This "races" could easily surpass man in technology quickly using it's supernatural strength.

Also, in the Bible, after Adam and Eve were cast out of Eden, and the earth was cursed, it makes no mention of Adam and Eve's daughters, only their sons. Perhaps the ancient demonic race called the nephilim offered them technology to make their toils easier in exchange for sex with their women.

A tidbit that coincides with this theory is the fact that there is no archeological evidence with accounts for any culture inventing the bow and arrow. That technology, as far as we can tell, sprouted of it's own accord, and became something that "always was" and was overlooked.

Aliens are demon/fallen angels? It makes sense to me. A race that is superior to us, living along side us, attempting to manipulate the human race to cause the damnation of souls through occultic and questionable secret governments such as masons, the illuminati, and others.

Food for thought for sure, but a developing theory also.
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You may be right about SOME of them (Aliens), Pal!
H/W Book of Enoch: http://reluctant-messenger.com/enoch.htm

He [Enoch] deals with the WATCHERs - who have been condemned for fouling up and PROCREATING with the HUMAN FEMALES. Forming GIANT mutated Offspring.

Some would call the Reptillians the "Fallen Angels" (if you will) - SERPENTS CONDEMNED from ONE OF THE THREE GARDENS OF EDEN.

Demons may very well be Aliens of the HOSTILE TYPE who are now forbidden to enter the T/S continuum of this planet. They arrive through "portals" that are INDEPENDENT of our time/space reference.

BASING ALL of this on Biblical narrations (once again) can throw you off. Many of the MYTHS of the ancients are just as rich in resources.

Good food for thought, Chap!!
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Stellar
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God ordered HIS speciffic people to kill those of polluted geneology.

Only God has the power to judge a person in this plane, which he did through the actions and destruction of his people.

Also, the flood's purpose was to preserve Noah's unpolluted geneology, and destroy the polluted genes of those who had crossbread with the Nephilim, a demonic race of giants which exist in the beginning of time (and maybe even today).


It doesnt matter what so ever what the reasons were. Im not here to debate the reasons... Im here to point out that the christian god did kill and did tell people to kill others in the bible, and there for the other guys argument "God wouldnt tell you to kill someone" is void.
Isaac Lucado
Aliens NOT demons although they sometimes act them.
Coyote speaks from experience.

They look like them also dontgetit.gif
gryphon_2005
QUOTE(Stellar @ Nov 20 2004, 10:26 AM)
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God ordered HIS speciffic people to kill those of polluted geneology.

Only God has the power to judge a person in this plane, which he did through the actions and destruction of his people.

Also, the flood's purpose was to preserve Noah's unpolluted geneology, and destroy the polluted genes of those who had crossbread with the Nephilim, a demonic race of giants which exist in the beginning of time (and maybe even today).


It doesnt matter what so ever what the reasons were. Im not here to debate the reasons... Im here to point out that the christian god did kill and did tell people to kill others in the bible, and there for the other guys argument "God wouldnt tell you to kill someone" is void.
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I'M NOT here to debate either -- only to say YOU ARE CORRECT! -- and AFFIRM that the GOD of this narration IS quite CRANKY!! And LIMITED to HUMAN EMOTION .. that is judging by VIOLENCE while preaching AGAINST being HUMAN and tolerating different points of experience?? THIS ... a GOD of TOLERENCE!?

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Chanelle_Rose
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Sep 19 2004, 12:53 PM)
deamons and aliens are not the same sorry to say
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Chanelle_Rose
QUOTE(mdulin2004 @ Nov 15 2004, 06:11 AM)
Why God Called Me
to Expose UFOs

November 15, 2004

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To be honest, I don't know the entire reason why God called me to expose UFOs, all I know is the journey I've been on and I will share it with you.

First I will tell you that God showed me in a vision about seven years ago that aliens exist and they are demons.  The word that He gave me, They are Coming and They are Not Nice.

Dealing with the UFO phenomena has been somewhat challenging for me due to the stigma related to it.  Sometimes I believe God called me to expose it, just to test me.  To see if I would.

Sometimes I have felt insecure and asked God for confirmations that he was truly calling me to do this work and he has met me every time.

Like last night for instance, I said in my heart, Lord, if you are truly calling me and want me to continue exposing the alien/demon connection would you confirm it again.

Having forgotten I even prayed this prayer, this morning, I unsuspectingly ran across a Channel 8 News Broadcast of a UFO sighting over Iran.  Ordinarily this would not have meant much to me, except the UFO footage in this report looks identical to the one God showed me in a second vision!

(see web page to view pics: Prophecy Watcher

This is a picture of the UFO shot in the news broadcast presentation.  Identical to a picture I found shortly after I had my second UFO vision below.  Both pictures are identical.

I found this picture after doing research on the blue orb in my second vision.  It confirmed to me that what I saw was real.  The amazing thing about this whole situation is before I had the vision of this blue orb UFO, I didn't know that UFOs appeared this way.  By seeing this second orb after I prayed and asked God for a confirmation, I know he is telling me I'm on the right track.

He is telling me that these things are out there and they are manifesting to people exactly the way He showed me.

Vision of the Blue Orb

I dreamed that Brandon and I were camping and we were looking out of our tent at the sky.  Brandon said look, and he pointed at the sky.  There was a bright neon blue light that was moving very quickly across the sky.  It was somewhat transparent and it looked like the moon except it was blue.  As it moved closer to the trees it transformed into vehicle appearance similar to what a flying saucer or space ship might look like.  It still looked like it was made out of neon blue light.

As it dissapeared behind the trees, suddenly a helicopter flew right near it and hovered over the trees.  The helicopter had USA on the side of it along with some other words.  Suddenly we looked ahead of us and we saw an alien lurched on top of a car.  He was in a catlike position as if he was about to pounce.  There was an officer standing in front of him with a flashlight.  The alien looked exactly like the ones many claim to have seen.  Skinny, large head and big black eyes.

Brandon and I began to rebuke the devil and take the authority of Jesus.  Then we put on sneakers and prepared to run.  End of dream.

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In the Beginning


When I had the first Vision of Two UFOs hovering in the sky, God specifically told me to write down everything I saw and warn people that aliens exist and they are demons.  He told me, They are Coming and they are Not Nice!

At the time I didn't know one person who agreed with me.  I never heard of the idea that aliens were demons.  I thought everyone believed they were from outerspace.

One day I was walking through grocery store, I was talking on my cell phone about the Tower of Babel and how I believed God was showing me that our Space Program was a modern day manifestation of the Tower of Babel.

A little old man overheard me talking and pulled me to the side.  He asked me if I knew about the Great Tribulation and the Battle of Armageddon.  I was like, are you kidding me?  These issues seemed to be my purpose in life, end time bible prophecy.

At that point, I started wondering if this guy was an angel because I had no doubt he was sent from God.  He said he had some videos he wanted to give me.  When I opened up the bag of videos there was one called UFOs: The Hidden Truth.

God had placed in my hands without any intent on my part, the most important documentary on UFO history that has ever been produced.  After viewing this video one will have no doubts that UFOs exist, but more than that he follows through with the message that Aliens Exist and They Are Demons!

As you can see by now, this is not a fascination or preoccupation of mine.  This is an outright calling and the message is clear.

Aliens are Demons
Vision of Two UFOs

The Lord has put it upon my heart to proclaim that Aliens do exist and they are demons. I received this revelation in 1997. Up until that time, I personally felt that aliens existed because so many people had testified that they had seen them. However, I thought they were probably beneveloent creations from another planet, being that God was a creator, I didn't think he stopped creating with us.

However the Lord would eventually prove me wrong. While studying bible prophecies and relevant material, I happened across a book about a lady who had a message from God. She predicted world war III, the end of the world and the return of Jesus Christ. So of course I was interested in what she had to say. Until I found out she received all her revelations from an ALIEN.

At this point I became slightly intrigued. Who was this alien? Where did he come from? What was his source? I began to realize this alien had a very good knowledge of the bible. I also began to recognize that he operated in the same way that demons do. This alien claimed to be an angel sent to our planet from God. However, this alien was peculiar to angels in the bible. This angel inhabited the bodies of humans, like demons do!

I never read in the bible where any angel ever entered into the body of a human being except for fallen angels of Lucifer! I began to realize that this poor woman, because of lack of knowledge concerning the scriptures had been duped. This scripture came to mind:

2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

I just kind of kept it to myself until later that year I had a vision. I saw two UFO's over my neighborhood. They were extremely large. As large as the neighborhood itself. They hovered there making a humming sound. They pulsated as if they were breathing. They had an orange glow, however they were somewhat transparent. You could see through them. They reminded me of sea creatures, maybe sting rays.

I was very afraid. I could see them and so could everyone in the neighborhood. I thought to myself I must get in the house and get all the children together and pray.

There were others in the house with me. I knew that they realized that for the first time in their lives they realized that what I had been predicting about the end of the world all these years was really true. However, I didn't have time to explain. I had a strong sense that our lives were in danger.

I can't explain to you the terror that I experienced. These beings were on the street, they were coming to get us. I could hear their feet smacking the ground like webbed duck's feet. They had long skinny fingers and they were orange like the space crafts. They were also transparent. You could see through their skin.

They got into the house with us. We couldn't keep them out. I could read their thoughts and they could read mine as well. I was calling on the name of the Lord and I was afraid for my life. For the first time in my life i wanted a gun. I wanted to protect myself and my children. I was extremely afraid but I knew who to call on. I began to call on the Lord to save us.

I want to interject here that I know that God has not given us the spirit of fear, but I believe this is why he allowed me to have this vision. He wanted me to experience the terror that is to come so that I can warn all of you to be prepared. It is easy to say God has not given me the spirit of fear while you are sitting comfortably in your living room. But you try saying it while you are experiencing a supernatural demonic invasion where your life and the life of children are being threatened.

The terror that I experienced in this vision was tremendous because it was undeniably real. The fear was so overpowering that I came out of the vision because of my inability to take anymore.

Immediately I was impressed to chronicle everything that I experienced. I knew that I had a vision from God and that he was trying to warn us of what was coming. But then I began to seek the Lord. Where was this in the bible? Why is it that I never heard of anything like this before? Then this scripture came to me:

Revelation 12:7-12 "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

I realized that Satan had not yet been kicked out of heaven like we had been taught. When he was in the garden with Adam and Eve he had not yet deceived the whole world. Adam and Eve were the first to be deceived.

Secondly, he had been the acuser of the brethren. The same way he had acused Job before God. The scriptures tell us that Satan appeared before God to acuse Job, if he had been kicked out of heaven and there was no place found for him there anymore, he would not have been able to appear before God during that time.

But the day is coming, when Satan is going to be physically cast down to earth with his evil angels and he is going to have great wrath because he will only have a short time. That will be during the Great Tribulation period for it is for an appointed time and the time has been cut short. For if the time were not cut short, no flesh would survive:

Matthew 24:21-22 "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

Satan knows that he is going to be cast out of heaven once and for all. He knows the time is coming when he will have free reign on the earth and he will not have to appear before God to seek his permission to torture and to kill the inhabitants of the earth. He is going to go on a rampage to such an extent that if God did not cut the time short, no man would on earth would survive. But because of the church, God is going to cut the time short.

Due to the fact that Satan knows he is coming, he is preparing mankind for his arrival. He has been making preparations for quite some time. The purpose of this narrative is to expose his evil plot to as many who are willing to listen in order to prepare them for what is coming.

There has been much disinformation about UFO activity and the seriousness of what is going on. The media has sensationalized UFO sightings and abductions to trivialize the activity and lull the world to sleep to what is truly going on. The truth of the matter is that many people around the world have been abducted by aliens and many more have seen flying space crafts The government and NASA have acknowledged UFO activity and many astronauts have witnessed UFO's while doing missions.

If you have read this far, you probably don't need anybody to convince you that aliens do exist. Something inside you tells you this is true as it did to me. Since I have begun to look into this matter I have found a true alien agenda that is totally in line with biblical prophecy. It has a lot to do with the New Age Movement, the Masonic Lodge and the New World Order, three massive Satanic movements.

Karen's Dream

I want to add Karen's Dream of an Alien Invasion because it definitely rings true in my spirit and bares witness with what God has shown me.  It is no coincidence that I found her dream.  God wants us to prepare for what is coming.

I had this horrific nightmare last night, unusual because I rarely have a frightening dream, and especially one that is so coherent. I wish I could have posted earlier, but this has been such a busy day - and I really didn't even remember I had this dream until something reminded me earlier tonight.

At this point, I only remember snatches of it. It started out right before something was about to happen, something that I and others had been preparing for, but that most people had only just learned of.

It was an invasion of some kind-an alien invasion, or at least the threat was from creatures not like us - and people were completely helpless in the face of it. The scene switched from a city, not one I knew or even one that really exists, to people fleeing in cars, trucks, campers. It seemed to be by the sea somewhere, but there was desert, too.

I was with one or two other people I knew, but I can't remember who they were. I had some way of recognizing where these aliens were hidden - I mean, it's not like they arrived in a spaceship. They were simply just here among us. I can't explain it beyond that. I also had some way of neutralizing whatever they did that could kill people. I had some salve or spray or something that if I used it right away I would not be killed by what they did. But I only had three doses of whatever this was, so I and my friends had to be extremely careful and try to get away to the safe area (wherever that was, I've no clue).

I was hiding with my friends in a camper, and I'd told my friends not to show their faces, not to go outside - but they did. And one of these "things" all in black rubber found me, so I had to use one of my three doses. The dream ended somewhere around this time, in which I was worried - and knew that the two doses I had left would not be enough to save me and my friends.

Very unusual, as all the regulars here know, for me to post a dream. But this dream FEELS like a precognitive dream, not one that's just a product of my subconscious. 

Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
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Hi there! I agree with what you say! God gave me my calling to reveal about the a;iens in Feb of this year and before that I knew nothing of UFO's or aliens, I thought they didn't exist and had nothing to do with the Bible. God started telling me about the UFO Bible connection before I had even done any research and read where anyone else believed the same thing, I thought I was the only one! That proves my ideas didn't come from something I had read, I hadn't read anyone else write about the UFO Bible connection until after I got into the UFO thing and really started studying it. It all makes perfect sense. The history of mankind tells us we are not alone. People wonder why God sent the flood, He did it to destroy the Giants what were the giants? The offspring of humand and fallen angels, that's why so many aliens look human like. The giants were aliens and so were a lot of the so called gods of mythologies. Those were all fallen angels and their half human offspring. God had to wipe all of that out and start over fresh with Noah & his family. There is just so much I can write about this whole thing. original.gif If you really start studying all of the ancient writings of people all over the world and all cultures you will see that they all have one thing in common, they all had experiences with some kind of other worldy beings some called them star people others called them various names, today we call them aliens, it's all one and the same thing! You should read about the Atlantis and Lumeria, The Dropa Stones, Ancient Egypt & the pyramids, The Book of Enoch and other Lost or banned books from the Bible, Ancient & Lost civilizations, this is a good link for that,Link, when you really study all of this and the UFO phenominon you can't help but realize the truth! It's all one and the same!


Chanelle_Rose



Now we know the Bible mentions how the fallen angels mated with human women and produced offspring and these were giants and others of various forms. This all happened before the flood of Noah. These human like people and fallen angels are what we know today to be the aliens.

Every culture in the past had it's own version or form of mythologies, these mythologies were really about aliens/fallen angels and their offspring. Those people back then worshipped those beings as gods.

Atlantis created colonies the world over. Some of these were great, others small, and more primitive, as they received a lesser influence from the Atlanteans. The Atlanteans were the "gods", or(fallen) "Angels" or "Civilizing Heroes" whom we find in essentially all traditions. They are the Nagas of India and Indonesia, the Oannés of Sumero-Babylon, the Cabeiri and Corybants or, yet, the Heroes such as Hercules, Prometheus and Cadmus of the Greeks and Romans, and so on.
Seems like this is where most of the fallen angels established their throne in the form of mythological gods, it's no wonder why God destroyed Atantis if it existed.

The Holy Mountain that we find in essentially all religions and sacred traditions concerning Paradise is indeed Mt. Atlas, the archetype of them all. We encounter the Holy Mountain under names such as Mt. Meru in the Indies, Mt. Calvary (or Golgotha) in Christianity, Mt. Qaf ("Skull" = Calvary) in Islamism, Mt. Kailasa (idem) in Shivaism, Mt. Salvat (or Calvat = "Skull") in Catharism, Mt. Olympos in Greece, etc.. all such derive directly from the Atlantean model, both in the New and the Old worlds.

This passage from the Book of Enoch describes the fall of lucifer:

Chapter 6, VI
1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' 3. And Semjaza, (sounds almost like satan. Satan has many names)
Who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.'

They knew going in that what they were doing was dead wrong.

. And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.'(satan and his followers) . Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. . And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.

Could this be the very same mountain as mount Atlas and the other names different people call it?

This is the same place where the fallen angels descended from Heaven to live among mankind.

Mt. Olympos, for instance, derives its name from the Greek Olmos Hippous, meaning "the Mountain of the Centaurs". But the Centaurs (Khentarfos) derive their name and their myth from the Gandharvas of India, where Mt. Meru is called "the Mountain of the Gandharvas". This fact shows the Indian origin of the myths of ancient Greece. Again, the Holy Mountain this time directly connected with an Atlas figure (Ayar Cachi) turned to stone is also found in Peru as the Huanacauri of the Incas. In fact, wherever we find the myth of the Holy Mountain of Paradise, we are able to trace it back to Mt. Meru and the Indies, that is, to Atlantis.

Atlantis was destroyed in the flood along with the rest of the aliens/fallen angels kingdoms on earth. Atlantis was mst likely the main place where their kingdom was set up and Atlantis was considered a place where advanced technology existed.

In symbolic form, the Holy Mountain is also represented as a pyramid or an obelisk, or similar structures. These include artefacts such as the pylons of Egyptian temples, the towers of the Babylonian ziggurats, the spires of the Gothic cathedrals and the Hindu gopuras and pyramidal temples. The pyramids above all the step pyramids of Egypt (Zozer's), of Mexico, of Peru and of the Far East (China, Japan) are all replicas of Mt. Meru, which is also shaped as a four-sided pyramid in Hindu traditions.

It's all very interesting. original.gif
gryphon_2005
QUOTE(Chanelle_Rose @ Nov 20 2004, 07:43 PM)



Now  we know the Bible mentions how the fallen angels mated with human women and produced offspring and these were giants and others of various forms.  This all happened before the flood of Noah. These human like people and fallen angels are what we know today to be the aliens.

Every culture in the past had it's own version or form of mythologies, these mythologies were really  about aliens/fallen angels and their offspring. Those people back then worshipped those beings as gods.

Atlantis created colonies the world over. Some of these were great, others small, and more primitive, as they received a lesser influence from the Atlanteans. The Atlanteans were the "gods", or(fallen) "Angels" or "Civilizing Heroes" whom we find in essentially all traditions. They are the Nagas of India and Indonesia, the Oannés of Sumero-Babylon, the Cabeiri and Corybants or, yet, the Heroes such as Hercules, Prometheus and Cadmus of the Greeks and Romans, and so on.
Seems like this is where most of the fallen angels established their throne in the form of mythological gods, it's no wonder why God destroyed Atantis if it existed.

The Holy Mountain that we find in essentially all religions and sacred traditions concerning Paradise is indeed Mt. Atlas, the archetype of them all. We encounter the Holy Mountain under names such as Mt. Meru in the Indies, Mt. Calvary (or Golgotha) in Christianity, Mt. Qaf ("Skull" = Calvary) in Islamism, Mt. Kailasa (idem) in Shivaism, Mt. Salvat (or Calvat = "Skull") in Catharism, Mt. Olympos in Greece, etc.. all such derive directly from the Atlantean model, both in the New and the Old worlds.

This passage from the Book of Enoch describes  the fall of lucifer:

Chapter 6, VI
1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' 3. And Semjaza, (sounds almost like satan. Satan has many names)
Who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.'

They knew going in that what they were doing was dead wrong. 

. And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.'(satan and his followers) . Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. . And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.

Could this be the very same mountain as mount Atlas and the other names different people call it?

This is the same place where the fallen angels descended from Heaven to live among mankind.

Mt. Olympos, for instance, derives its name from the Greek Olmos Hippous, meaning "the Mountain of the Centaurs". But the Centaurs (Khentarfos) derive their name and their myth from the Gandharvas of India, where Mt. Meru is called "the Mountain of the Gandharvas". This fact shows the Indian origin of the myths of ancient Greece. Again, the Holy Mountain this time directly connected with an Atlas figure (Ayar Cachi) turned to stone is also found in Peru as the Huanacauri of the Incas. In fact, wherever we find the myth of the Holy Mountain of Paradise, we are able to trace it back to Mt. Meru and the Indies, that is, to Atlantis.

Atlantis was destroyed in the flood along with the rest of the aliens/fallen angels kingdoms on earth. Atlantis was mst likely the main place where their kingdom was set up and Atlantis was considered a place where advanced technology existed.

In symbolic form, the Holy Mountain is also represented as a pyramid or an obelisk, or similar structures. These include artefacts such as the pylons of Egyptian temples, the towers of the Babylonian ziggurats, the spires of the Gothic cathedrals and the Hindu gopuras and pyramidal temples. The pyramids above all the step pyramids of Egypt (Zozer's), of Mexico, of Peru and of the Far East (China, Japan) are all replicas of Mt. Meru, which is also shaped as a four-sided pyramid in Hindu traditions.

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I'm Sorry Sweetheart! But PROVE TO ME that ATLANTIS existed!!

Zeus
How the hell did these superior beings find earth women attractive?...How?

And how did these women give birth to giants?...I thought Humans were smaller sized in those times...And I must argue. Not all aliens are as demonic as some humans we know...Some aliens love humans to grow...
gryphon_2005
QUOTE(Zeus @ Nov 20 2004, 09:56 PM)

How the hell did these superior beings find earth women attractive?...How?

And how did these women give birth to giants?...I thought Humans were smaller sized in those times...And I must argue. Not all aliens are as demonic as some humans we know...Some aliens love humans to grow...
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Sorry Guy! I am afraid our MODERN thinking precludes an answer to this -- the posting above IS CORRECT ... Atlantis DID EXIST -- but their civilization would have been NO MATCH to ours .. and OURS would have been considered PRIMITIVE in comparison - as the use of ESP and NON-WIRED Communication was their UTOPIA.

In the end only the "SELFISH" people won out and the demise of Atlantis was caused by greed and abuse of the very machinery that made it that UTOPIA.

The ONLY SURVIVORS of that Great Civilization went on to give education to the colonies .. EGYPT being one.

The Mayans another ...

====== Sadly -- MUCH of that rich history is distorted by conventional thinking (to adhere to the logical graduated steady state theory of civilization)

According to our historians (NOW) -- Atlantis HAD to be primitive. It DID NOT FIT That conventional thinking - therefore
=== ruins WORLDWIDE are nothing more than guessing games for a shared desire to be civilized -- and there was NO CONNECTION!


RIGHT!!

And we (as students of history) BELIEVE THIS CLAP TRAP -- or MADE to believe?

OR - we DO NOT get credit for this Scientifically CORRECT viewpoint!

How SAD! How DAMNED SAD!!

Measures this very statement: "THOSE MOST IGNORANT of history are those destined to REPEAT history! --FOR THE WORST!"

From the snuffed out candle of the Gryphon's Lair

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