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Druidus
Does anyone have any tips for an aspiring empath? I've never been able to do the telepathic/empathic skills very well, but I would like to learn empathy. Thanks!
ROGER
Druidas: You really dont want to sharpen any empathic skills you may allready possess. I have found that incountering people with stronge emothional problems hits you like a phyisical force. Because of my small ability to feel other peoples moods I've become some what social pathic. I avoid one on one encounters because your first instict is to relieve the pain of anouther, thus helping your self. But you will get lost. The stronge emotions are like a bad drug that will drive you insane. Believe me it's better to create a wall against others, so you can funtion as your self. Dont loose your self!
ROGER
Druidus
I can create very adequate shielding, no need to worry about that! tongue.gif

It's mainly as a way to communicate better with my dog, and my parrot. I'd like to at least understand basic empathics before I start telepathics.
arwenpotter
umm well this is gonna sound wierd but mine just came to me n i think this may help... ok remeber its a theory though.... ok wot you need to do is see that person infront of you... try n listen (soudns wierd i know) to them. the hard part cast your senses out like in a net... let them guide you n always trust your first instinct but dont like make a scene or anythign lol. i will practice it for you like to think of ways i can help byy trying them with my own empathy first.

its a VERY good thing that your good at shielding coz sometimes i get sick becoz my friends or someone i know are sick... it really hurts coz its like your own pain.... i found that mostly i feel my friends emotions the strongest n probably becoz im always close to them..

ARGH! its so annoygin! all my abilities come to me naturally n i dont know how to ehlp others!! like i just know wot to do....... ARGH!
Ashley-Star*Child
From what I know the water signs (not just sun or 'starsigns' but water somewhere in your chart) can make you empathic. Don't know how it can be developed though, cause I'd say you'd be born with it.
arwenpotter
err ash? if im an aquarius wot does this make me in the "water signs" ??? coz it hits like a stone with me... really hurts wacko.gif
XPyromaniacX
Well Aquariuses are drawn to astrology supposedly and i'm an aquarius so maybe it could have something that effects empathy.
arwenpotter
hmm interesting... im gonna look into it i think.... hehe join the club pyro LOL its the 5th over here
David_Cubero
Druidus,,,I'm a Natural Empath!!!

Be careful what you wish for,,,or aspire to!!!

It can be debilitating in your daily life. Sometimes you get overwhelming feelings from those around you.

It's NOT something that I'd aspire for,,,personally I'd rather be a Mega-Superstar or a Pro-Athlete.

You'd understand if you actually could feel other people's pains like I do at times!!!

Shieldings don't always protect you from these things,,,regardless of how much you'd like them to,,,Trust Me!!!
arwenpotter
*nods* i agree with you on the whole debilitating life thing! it disturbs my school life real bad! theres so many people who are stressed or tired i get reall snippy n stuff. but f it gets TOO much i do a shield to protect me but remmeber it has to be stronger then your empath ability or your ability will shatter it!

David i recommend shields for you too!
gufzoo
If it helps, Druidus, I think empathy is a beautiful thing. It's true that it can be over-whelming, but it doesn't have to be. If you can shield yourself adequately, then you have nothing to fear. Another thing that really helps is being able to channel healing energy. It washes your system clean, like a spiritual shower.

What I do is just look at the person and kind of breathe them in. That's the only way I know how to describe it. Arwen's right, it's hard to describe how to do it to someone who doesn't do it naturally.

I wasn't always aware of it though, so maybe it just hasn't been spurred to come out of you yet. I only really realized I could do it earlier this year, while going through my first year of med school. Lucky me, as if I wasn't under enough stress from school, I began to feel all my classmates' stress as well! Muy overwhelming!

But awesome if you can use it at will! For example, a guy I kinda like who I know likes me a lot moved in close to me one day to grab something behind me. The feelings I got from him woulda knocked me on my arse if I wasn't already sitting! laugh.gif

Good luck, I hope you can figure it out!
arwenpotter
i think emapthy is a lil scary.... i had another emapthy attack today n a precog. empathy attack the day before.. thats 2 this week in two days n 5 in 3 weeks n 2days... ... ... i think its becoz all my friends are a lil ill... on eof my friends has middle ear infection, neumonia in her left lung n tonsilitis... wacko.gif poor chill... sad.gif n all my other firends are like getting stomach aches n colds... thankfuly mostly minor stuff.... ....
Mithas
Is it acctually possible to be killed by empathy? Say your friend has a really bad case of pnuemonia. And you have a empathy attack. Could it kill you?
arwenpotter
im not sure n i certainly hope not!! though i dont think so coz you feel their pain but i dont think you could feel it to the extent that it could kill you cause say someone gets burnt you dont get burns you just feel the pain,.. so i dunno...
gufzoo
I agree with Arwen. I've felt two people die, and I'm still here! Or am I... scared.gif
Xenojjin
Empathy sucks anyways . to much emotion from to many differant people .

Whatsreally sad is when you run into the kind of person who tries to pretend that their life is much harder then it actually is . Lets just say that type of person will start to piss you off 10 times more then they already do at least .

arwenpotter
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I agree with Arwen. I've felt two people die, and I'm still here! Or am I...

hehehe LOL welcome to the after life gufzoo tongue.gif

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Whatsreally sad is when you run into the kind of person who tries to pretend that their life is much harder then it actually is . Lets just say that type of person will start to piss you off 10 times more then they already do at least .

Holy Goddess do i know the feeling! one of my friends is like that n lately shes been going on n on aboot it more n its driving me INSANE!!!!! especially since her life is not bad at all! she has everything shes ever wanted, a nice brother, good grades n everything! the worst shes ever had is being smacked when she was lil for doing something bad!!
crazytomi
empathy isnt all its cracked up to be, but when u do learn it, be warned that it can be overwhelming when you are in a crowd.
_hAiLO_
QUOTE(crazytomi @ Sep 23 2004, 07:24 PM)
empathy isnt all its cracked up to be, but when u do learn it, be warned that it can be overwhelming when you are in a crowd.
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he's only an alien embryo and he knows this stuff grin2.gif . Its true, it can get very overwhelming...
arwenpotter
LOL hailo... *shakes head* lol
gufzoo
How weird is this? I hurt my right thumb today pretty badly while playing flag football, and even spent 4 hours in the ER over it, and ever since then, every now and then, my left thumb will "feel" my right thumb's pain! laugh.gif
arwenpotter
LOL!!! interesting but double the pain sad.gif
hee hee thumbsup.gif
The Stranger
QUOTE(Druidus @ Sep 15 2004, 05:02 PM)
Does anyone have any tips for an aspiring empath?  I've never been able to do the telepathic/empathic skills very well, but I would like to learn empathy.  Thanks!
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Hi,
If you really want to be empathic but have little or no natural talent to be so you have to create an opening for it. If you can not pick up emotions subconsciously then you have to make it a conscious process :- once you get good at it it will become natural and hence a sub-conscious process. It is worth noting that if you open this kind of window to perception and practice it to the point of mental assimilation you will have great difficulty undoing it.

Here is one method that you could use to gain skills in empathy:

Because you can not pick up the emotions subconsciously you have to do it consciously through one of your major senses.
To start this process you need to start seeing auras, ( buy a good book on auras ) one of the major skills of a good aura reader is to tell someones emotions by the colours and hues in the various layers of the subjects electro magnetic field ( aura ).
If you continue this practice for a long time and get know the meanings of different subtleties in auras it will soon become an automatic subconscious process no longer requiring your concentration.

you will just know, hence you will be empathic.


crazytomi
QUOTE(arwenpotter @ Sep 24 2004, 01:20 AM)
LOL hailo... *shakes head* lol
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fyi, i am an empath and i do tend to get visions. ive been an empath for months but been getting visions or felt something was going to happen for years....go figure why it manifested completely within the past few months...
arwenpotter
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fyi, i am an empath and i do tend to get visions. ive been an empath for months but been getting visions or felt something was going to happen for years....go figure why it manifested completely within the past few months...

yer ive been an empath for yonks before i knew wot it was ... but since if been able to control it (ish) lately ive been getting visions and stuf (lately=3yrs)... one was really not good ... someone attacking me and trying to hurt my friends to hurt me... the scary thing: ive been sleeping or doing nothing and a face looms out, the one from my vision, and ive been hearing there voice.... crying.gif i dont want my friends to get hurt. hence my hastened-ness to perfect all my kinetics... its soon too....
oh and after the vision someone kept trying to get into me and my friends minds.. then they got in... *cries**shudder*

crazytomi
QUOTE(arwenpotter @ Sep 25 2004, 04:25 AM)
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fyi, i am an empath and i do tend to get visions. ive been an empath for months but been getting visions or felt something was going to happen for years....go figure why it manifested completely within the past few months...

yer ive been an empath for yonks before i knew wot it was ... but since if been able to control it (ish) lately ive been getting visions and stuf (lately=3yrs)... one was really not good ... someone attacking me and trying to hurt my friends to hurt me... the scary thing: ive been sleeping or doing nothing and a face looms out, the one from my vision, and ive been hearing there voice.... crying.gif i dont want my friends to get hurt. hence my hastened-ness to perfect all my kinetics... its soon too....
oh and after the vision someone kept trying to get into me and my friends minds.. then they got in... *cries**shudder*
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most of my visions have been kinda prophetetic and kinda "HOLY" as if they are send directly from God himself. dunno for sure. but i do know its not cool when u get a vision and nearly pass out...
gufzoo
Why do you consider your visions "holy"? Be forewarned that you tend to lose credibility in this forum when you talk like that...
crazytomi
reason i say that is b/c of the fact that most of them have been visions of heaven....or someone coming down from heaven to talk to me...
gufzoo
Not saying that they're not holy, because what do I know, but couldn't they also be your subconscious vision of heaven? Holy or not, you seem spiritual enough! wink2.gif
crazytomi
QUOTE(gufzoo @ Sep 25 2004, 07:54 PM)
Not saying that they're not holy, because what do I know, but couldn't they also be your subconscious vision of heaven?  Holy or not, you seem spiritual enough!  wink2.gif
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well im not sayin they are holy or they make me holy, i just say they are holy b/c they are of heaven. u may be right. may be my subconcious but who knows. i am a christian and ive been told that this is a gift...but i think its more of a curse but who am i to say?
_hAiLO_
I am a christian and I do not believe it is a gift or a curse.....but the work of the mind. If you claim to see images of heaven, that may be images of heaven, possibly a spirit would like to contact you. An extended remote viewing?
crazytomi
er not sure what u mean by extended remote viewing....
arwenpotter
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most of my visions have been kinda prophetetic and kinda "HOLY" as if they are send directly from God himself. dunno for sure. but i do know its not cool when u get a vision and nearly pass out...

thankfully for me ive never past out.. the worst ive had is shakiness form wot ive seen

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er not sure what u mean by extended remote viewing....

do you know wot remote vieing is??
peacelover
Druidus:

Often, empathy comes from the ability to truly be sensitive to the experiances of another. I do not believe that it is something learned, un-less having grown in age and self experiance. I don't think that you can pick up a book or learn from another or get tips or quotes and this then makes you an empath.

If you want to communicate with your animals - talk to them. Animals are often empathic in their own abilities. Talk a lot to your animals. They will understand you and eventually you will understand them because you will have taken the time to know and understand better.

Is this a real question, or are you trying to post 1000?
peacelover
Druidus:

I see now. You got this idea from Malleaus. She/He posted this topic before you and you followed. Ever the follower, true to form. At least you are predictable.

Thanks
crazytomi
no clue what remote veiwing is...lol i feel so stupid lol
_hAiLO_
Remote Viewing - To be able to sense the actions of a person far away from visualizing that person.
anything is possible
hmm, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought empathy was also used to control others emotions??? cool.gif
crazytomi
o ok well i think ive done that. ive talked to a person one on one in an IM or been in a chat, felt their emotions but mainly in IMs i think ive seen the person...cant remember...been a while
arwenpotter
lol HAILO!!! remote viewing is seeing the object or person LOL! it happens to me whenever someone sends me an image with telepathy mainly Dave.. i described exactly wot his cat was doing to him!! tongue.gif

err anything? its only to sense it not control them... lol thats like a cross between psychokinesis and empathy lol psycho-empathy tongue.gif tongue.gif

hey crazytomi? i cant use AIM anymore sad.gif my bro got well pissy.... do you think you could get msn?? coz that seems to be all im allowed to download cause hes mister high and mighty and uses msn himself rolleyes.gif cept not smiling grrrr
thinkin
QUOTE(ROGER @ Sep 15 2004, 03:30 PM)
Druidas: You really dont want to sharpen any empathic skills you may allready possess. I have found that incountering people with stronge emothional problems hits you like a phyisical force. Because of my small ability to feel other peoples moods I've become some what social pathic. I avoid one on one encounters because your first instict is to relieve the pain of anouther, thus helping your self. But you will get lost. The stronge emotions are like a bad drug that will drive you insane. Believe me it's better to create a wall against others, so you can funtion as your self. Dont loose your self!
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Know exactly what you mean
Amarant_Kenaston
Don't get into Empathy. At all. I was born natural, and it sucks beyond reasonable belief. I can somewhat control it, so as to pick out things I want to know, but any strong emotion hits like a bullet, or the shock of falling off of a 70 foot cliff. I have been through both instances, and I would rather do it agan that get near someone who is going through emotional or mental stress. If you don't have the ability, or are bad at it, be thankful.

BTW, for those who are talking about shielding yourself from it, it won't work to a full extent. Your mind is connected to whatever you are being empathic with, and you cannot protect yourself from yourself. They become a permanant part of you, and that is dangerous, especially considering one of the many enemies I have ended up connecting to me when I almost killed him. I would have finished it, if not for the fact I would have died, too. Conecting yourself to someone on that level can easily and uncontrolably pass into the physical realm.

To make it clear, Empathy is my only psychic skill which I wish I could give up without passing it on to someone else. i would rather my own self be cursed than to pass it on to someone else, no matter how much they ****ed up my life.

Bottom line: Pray every night to whatever diety you worship that you never get any powerful empathetic abilities, and if you do, you know someone who can help you control them without mysteriously disappearing. I may have a different point of veiw on the subject if my mentor didn't just disappear, but this is how I've came to this point...
gufzoo
I'm sorry that you've had such traumatic experiences with empathy. Maybe I feel differently about it because it doesn't affect me as strongly, or because I control it better or something. The personal pain you feel aside, though, it is such a wonderful way to connect with people, and to help them with their pain.

I'm not being idealistic here. I know how hard it can be. I can't spend too much time with a friend of mine who suffers from depression because I seem to take a part of it away with me whenever I spend time with her. In fact, just today I realized that I've been in an absolutely rotten mood for the past few days, which is abnormal for me because generally I'm a very happy person, pretty much all the time. Wonder of wonders, I was at a party with her Saturday night! As soon as it dawned on me today why I was in such a rotten mood, the mood lifted and I felt normal again. And above that, it makes me feel that much closer to her and that much more willing to help her in any way I can, since I know what she goes through.

Maybe if you thought more about the people you're empathizing with than about your own pain, it would help you get over it and help them, the ones who are actually in trouble.
Amarant_Kenaston
Do you not believe I have tried that...? i cannot focus on other people's problems anymore, much less my own. I try to control it, yah know? I try to make the best of it but it never works... I prefer to just stay away from people, but for more reasons than just my empathic abilities. Thx for trying, though. Seriously, though, it is nice to know that somebody doesn't laugh at me for not being able to control it or use it to my advantage...
crazytomi
im a natural born empath as far as i know lol and i tend to get visions. anways its not cool to be an emapth. i mean i feel others emotions when talkin to them over the net..and thats not cool.
thinkin
QUOTE(ROGER @ Sep 15 2004, 03:30 PM)
Druidas: You really dont want to sharpen any empathic skills you may allready possess. I have found that incountering people with stronge emothional problems hits you like a phyisical force. Because of my small ability to feel other peoples moods I've become some what social pathic. I avoid one on one encounters because your first instict is to relieve the pain of anouther, thus helping your self. But you will get lost. The stronge emotions are like a bad drug that will drive you insane. Believe me it's better to create a wall against others, so you can funtion as your self. Dont loose your self!
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i agree totally. roger, you hit it right on the button. i also have had the same effects as you. The stress associated is unbearable. DON"T PRACTICE IT!
_hAiLO_
Wow, I see how a sixth sense could really be intense. But, how does reading someones emotion really make you not-wanna-learn-it? I mean, How Overwhelming is it?

Say you were in a room full of overstressed people....I can't get an idea of how overstressing it would be to read so many minds...
gufzoo
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Oct 14 2004, 04:11 AM)
Wow, I see how a sixth sense could really be intense. But, how does reading someones emotion really make you not-wanna-learn-it? I mean, How Overwhelming is it?

Say you were in a room full of overstressed people....I can't get an idea of how overstressing it would be to read so many minds...
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In a roomful of stressed-out people, yes, it is hard to handle.

I guess if you want to develop this ability (and I believe it's a good one to have), then maybe you should practice channeling someone else's feelings and pushing them away at the same time. When you open yourself up, and let someone in, don't just leave yourself open. After you've connected with a person, acknowledge it and push them back away from you. Practice having boundaries at all times.
arwenpotter
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In a roomful of stressed-out people, yes, it is hard to handle.

tell me aboot it sad.gif

hey does druidy ever even read this thread anymore huh.gif
insider
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Oct 14 2004, 05:11 AM)
Wow, I see how a sixth sense could really be intense. But, how does reading someones emotion really make you not-wanna-learn-it? I mean, How Overwhelming is it?

Say you were in a room full of overstressed people....I can't get an idea of how overstressing it would be to read so many minds...
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I join with the rest who tell that emphatic ability is nothing to be wanted, anyway not in this kind of enviroment where people are unaware that their emotions and thoughts can be heard. I have a great deal of problems with my emphatic ability and I am an telepath too. Few months ago I became Reiki master and that intensified my abilities.

It is always painful to go outside. I don't pick just thoughts, emotions and attitudes from one person, I pick it from all the persons around me. When I see that I have to go thru the crowd, it is like I have to endure whiphing. And it is not only when I am around people that I am affected. Even later connections are still there and it is chaos in my head, me solving other people problems, not knowing what thought or emotions are mine. In one moment I want to sing, in other I have the darkest attitudes. And no shield could protect me so far. Every shield lasts only few people, after that it is imperative to retreat as further away from everything as possible. I found out that aluminum foil hat can make it little easier, but it is not the fashion detail that would be understood by the environment original.gif. It is affecting life and productivity in many ways and for now I really wish I didn't have this.
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