Full Version: Is Jesus black or white?
I just wanted to know what you guys thought cuz in some pictures he's depicted as black and in some white!
I vote purple! 
Technically, he would have been a negroid.
Since Jesus was born in Middle East he would have an Arabic appearence. The common pictures of Jesus show him has European looking which is very unlikely. A Blonde haired Blued eyed fair skinned Christ is not a very likely appearence for him. This look came from Europeans themselves much later in history
Well he wasn't the blue eyed,long haired,white boy you see him portayed as.
His skin would be dark,his hair quite short and curly.(I saw it on a programme once!)
His skin would be dark,his hair quite short and curly.(I saw it on a programme once!)
Even the middle east jews look quite white, not like their Palestinian counterparts, so nobody really knows what Jesus looked like, but most pictures got it wrong because Jesus wouldn't have had long hair.
Popular Mechanics came out with an excellent analysis of what Jesus would have looked like. I strongly recommend reading the article.
Here's a brief overview:
Here's a brief overview:
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Starting with the assumption that Jesus resembled a typical peasant from 1st century CE Palestine, Richard Neave, a medical artist retired from the University of Manchester in England, and a team of researchers "started with an Israeli skull dating back to the 1st century. They then used computer programs, clay, simulated skin and their knowledge about the Jewish people of the time to determine the shape of the face, and color of eyes and skin." 2 Mike Fillon followed the research and wrote an article in work of these scientists and wrote an article about the portrait in "Popular Mechanics" magazine. 3 He said during a CNN interview that: "There are very strong rabbinical laws in Israel that you cannot tamper with a skull or any bones, so they needed to reconstruct the skull. Using a cat scan, which is very common in hospitals, they were able to recreate the skull precisely and make a cast of it. Then they put small wooden pegs, based on anthropological data, to figure out what the muscle structure and the skin would look like, and so they layered that on using clay-like substances." 4
The result is shown in the left portrait above: a person with abroad peasant's face, dark olive skin, short curly hair and a prominent nose. His height would have been on the order of 5' 1"; he would have weighed about 110 pounds. Alison Galloway, professor of anthropology at the University of California in Santa Cruz , said that: "This [portrait] is probably a lot closer to the truth than the work of many great masters."
The result is shown in the left portrait above: a person with abroad peasant's face, dark olive skin, short curly hair and a prominent nose. His height would have been on the order of 5' 1"; he would have weighed about 110 pounds. Alison Galloway, professor of anthropology at the University of California in Santa Cruz , said that: "This [portrait] is probably a lot closer to the truth than the work of many great masters."
Yeah, I saw that before. Makes sense, but the bible says Jesus grew in stature so might've been a big boy. He was a carpenter and back then, being a carpenter didn't exactly mean working with wood, for wood was scarce in the part of the world. He most likely worked with stone. It also says later that Jesus intimidated tax collectors and such and would've done so if he was larger then the typical size dipicted in the study.
If Judas had to kiss Jesus so that the soldiers would know who he was, then he must not have been very different from all other Jews of that period. Otherwise Judas could have just said, "Take the tall blonde blue-eye doofus, that's Jesus!"
No, Jesus was a Jew, a Jew of that period had not yet started mixing in with the europeans to acquire lite colored skin, blue eyes or blonde hair. He was as the article stated, stocky, short in statue (the biblical statement meant increasing in knowledge not height), swarthy, brown eyed and curly brown/black hair, hooked nose.
No, Jesus was a Jew, a Jew of that period had not yet started mixing in with the europeans to acquire lite colored skin, blue eyes or blonde hair. He was as the article stated, stocky, short in statue (the biblical statement meant increasing in knowledge not height), swarthy, brown eyed and curly brown/black hair, hooked nose.
Makes sense too!
so what he was black!!?? you think?
More Arabic, than black.
I vote purple as well.
How can someone even begin to answer the question of whether he was magenta or hunter green?
It is very obvious he was purple with green hair. Ump lumpa dupady doooo.
Rhetorical topics are getting on my nerves today, if you can't tell.
I must handle them with great responsibility and with my great sarcasmic abilities.
BTW, take no offence to my post, I am not mocking your jesus.
Edit: fixed topic title.
Carry on...
How can someone even begin to answer the question of whether he was magenta or hunter green?
It is very obvious he was purple with green hair. Ump lumpa dupady doooo.
Rhetorical topics are getting on my nerves today, if you can't tell.
I must handle them with great responsibility and with my great sarcasmic abilities.
BTW, take no offence to my post, I am not mocking your jesus.
Edit: fixed topic title.
Carry on...
Jesus was born in Jerusalam....rigth?
So I guess he was neither white neither black...more likely he is brown type...
So I guess he was neither white neither black...more likely he is brown type...
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How can someone even begin to answer the question of whether he was magenta or hunter green?
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Rhetorical topics are getting on my nerves today, if you can't tell.
I must handle them with great responsibility and with my great sarcasmic abilities.
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Rhetorical topics are getting on my nerves today, if you can't tell.
I must handle them with great responsibility and with my great sarcasmic abilities.
Don't be so eager to use sarcasm that you mistake a rhetorical question for one that can be, rather easily, investigated. We have more than enough data to be able to constryct a decent image of his general appearance. To think that simple anthropological research is so weak that you can mock it by claiming magenta or hunter green is doing a serious disservice to that branch of science.
I thought he was mexican, Jesus. Mows my lawn once a week. He has a brother named Jose. Both very nice guys.
lol Moe
I see your point Aquatus1.
My point is, is that we do not have enough information of this so called Jesus to determain any valid points. So, to me, it is all rhetoric.
I see your point Aquatus1.
My point is, is that we do not have enough information of this so called Jesus to determain any valid points. So, to me, it is all rhetoric.
QUOTE(panther10758 @ Sep 23 2004, 09:53 AM)
Since Jesus was born in Middle East he would have an Arabic appearence. The common pictures of Jesus show him has European looking which is very unlikely. A Blonde haired Blued eyed fair skinned Christ is not a very likely appearence for him. This look came from Europeans themselves much later in history
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Agreed---this is most likely. Christ was certainly not extremely dark though---after all, he was born the son of a Jewish woman.
QUOTE(Mentalcase @ Sep 24 2004, 11:16 AM)
lol Moe
I see your point Aquatus1.
My point is, is that we do not have enough information of this so called Jesus to determain any valid points. So, to me, it is all rhetoric.
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I see your point Aquatus1.
My point is, is that we do not have enough information of this so called Jesus to determain any valid points. So, to me, it is all rhetoric.
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We know a lot about him. We know he was born of a Jewish mother, so if you want to get any idea of what he looked like, go to Israel and look at the men there. There will be a lot of diversity withing the men there, but in general they will be of medium shades.
In the end, does it really matter?
If an african american person can better relate to Jesus by picturing a black Jesus, great. If a medievel europeon from the 1100s could better relate to Jesus by picturing a white Jesus, great as well.
Yep, definitely Arab. 
Arab
QUOTE(Talon S. @ Sep 25 2004, 11:49 PM)
Arab
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Bump, and I second that
I guess my purple theory just didn't float 
But anyway...Jesus is just portrayed different colours (black, white, green, purple, so on and so forth) because people like to portray icons in whatever may they're comfortable recognising them as...it doesn't mean it's actually accurate
But anyway...Jesus is just portrayed different colours (black, white, green, purple, so on and so forth) because people like to portray icons in whatever may they're comfortable recognising them as...it doesn't mean it's actually accurate
Rainbow !
Don't be silly Xenojin he was purple! And nothing you can say will convince me otherwise
he was purple! And nothing you can say will convince me otherwise
rainbow includes purple . Were technically both right .
hmm...*strokes her chin*...there is some truth in what you say...
Shall we agree, perhaps, that his colour was never identified, because he stole a certain someone's technicolour dream coat?
Shall we agree, perhaps, that his colour was never identified, because he stole a certain someone's technicolour dream coat?
most likely . Probobly went unrecorded in the bible like everything else that went unrecorded ... mainly everything .
Does it matter, really does it matter? In my eyes it is not a point that makes a difference.
QUOTE(Mentalcase @ Sep 24 2004, 02:41 PM) [snapback]278264[/snapback]
I vote purple as well.
How can someone even begin to answer the question of whether he was magenta or hunter green?
It is very obvious he was purple with green hair. Ump lumpa dupady doooo.
Rhetorical topics are getting on my nerves today, if you can't tell.
I must handle them with great responsibility and with my great sarcasmic abilities.
BTW, take no offence to my post, I am not mocking your jesus.
Edit: fixed topic title.
Carry on...
Again a quote that made me laugh.
Actually Jesus was what I have known to reffer too as permante midnight. Which means I have a tan, but if you where to classify me, I prefer black.
This thread of humiliation has been necromanced ... of all the threads that could have been necromanced .
Looks like a job for raptor Jesus.
Looks like a job for raptor Jesus.
The white Jesus that you normalyl see in the pictues is actualyl Cesare Borgia. He is the second son of Pope Alexander. Go to google and do an image search for him.. and then do a image search for jesus. You will see... thats the image that they use for Jesus. Jesus was black
You also gotta remember, it was supposed that Jesus' father was Roman so he'd be half-european and half-middle-eastern.
I've always thought he'd be Arab with possible African ancestry. In the Book of Revelation, his hair is described as being wooly. And he is said to have eyes of fire.
Since he is a fictional character, he looks as you choose him to look.
Proove that he's fictional
We can't prove either one at the moment. Although based on the Bible, I would think so.
We can't prove either one at the moment. Although based on the Bible, I would think so.
^^^
The Bible is also fiction.
I do not need to prove that he did not exist. The burden of proof lies with thee...
The Bible is also fiction.
I do not need to prove that he did not exist. The burden of proof lies with thee...
Mmmm...I'd say he was Mocha. Rather tanned- not quiet "black" but closer to being black than white thats for sure. Come on he was Arabian lol.
Again, prove it.
edit: sorry ramster, this was directed at Rykster.
edit: sorry ramster, this was directed at Rykster.
'Yelekiah'
Prove that you have not been secretly replaced by an alien.
Show me anything that proves the existence of gawds.
Just the fact that the world cannot even agree on one gawd is proof enough for me.
Your argument boils down to a schoolyard argument of "I know you are, but what am I?"
Prove that you have not been secretly replaced by an alien.
Show me anything that proves the existence of gawds.
Just the fact that the world cannot even agree on one gawd is proof enough for me.
Your argument boils down to a schoolyard argument of "I know you are, but what am I?"
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You also gotta remember, it was supposed that Jesus' father was Roman so he'd be half-european and half-middle-eastern.
So Jospeh was a Roman? didnt know that.
That made me laugh. It's not an argument, rykster. I'm trying to make a point. If you can't prove that Jesus is fictional, all you have to do is state that it is your opinion or at least imply it.
Otherwise, people will be curious if you know something they don't.
Otherwise, people will be curious if you know something they don't.
Er, um, Joseph wasn't Jesus' father. Gawd was, in an adulterous affair I might add. So much for the commandments. Ya know, the virgin birth thing?
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Er, um, Joseph wasn't Jesus' father. Gawd was, in an adulterous affair I might add. So much for the commandments. Ya know, the virgin birth thing?
Umm Er...He's God those rules were directed at us and not himself- why would he have a "rule book" for himself when he can do what he wants. Go look up what "God" is. He's not you or i - yeah shocking isnt it.
^^^
That doesn't even need a response. It is just to inane to reply to.
That doesn't even need a response. It is just to inane to reply to.
At least you didn't contradict yourself by responding.
Like I've said before, it's not the concept of gawd that I have a problem with. It's his followers that really aggravate me.
Why is that? Their faith?
No, their arrogance and extremism as well as their assertion that others have to prove them wrong in their beliefs, yet they simply dismiss the evidence that the world is much different than they profess it to be.
Also, the religious have no problem in calling for the deaths of those that disagree with them. A dangerous lot that sets up scenarios such as Catholic priests abusing boys and Arab men circumcising their women.
Also, the religious have no problem in calling for the deaths of those that disagree with them. A dangerous lot that sets up scenarios such as Catholic priests abusing boys and Arab men circumcising their women.
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