This is a clip of Champ in Lake Champlain.I got it off of Sci-fi.com.This was taken at the beginning of this year.Many people witnessed the creature.Notice how fast it's going,This cannot be faked by people underwater or toys. Please give feedback if you think that it is evidence.

Looks fake. Probably wouldn't be too hard to make that with a video editing program of some sort.

looks to me like a bird skimming the water plus its advertising for another site. I dn't give it much credibility. it moved way to fast to be swimming

Its a add for sci fi

The reason they advertise this is because they want you to see the other videos that they have there.Not just for advertising.Why can't you guys accept the fact that maybe this is actually Champ.Same as my other pictures,Why can't you say something like that looks cool, or that looks real.It might not be photoshop!!!

Canadian, no offense but I think you give too much credibility to some pics and movies on the net, many of them are prooved to be fake . I would like too to believe in many things but I just need proof.

looks real to me, although the video was a bit choppy (might be my comp tho)-i highly doubt that's a bird....

Thanks ironjennyrackham.Finally someone agrees with me that this is real.

OMG! It looks like a super fast speed turtle!

No but seriously... I just have nothing really to say yet because I have to think about it...


Ok i'm done. It looks kind of cheesy because if you look at the beginning of the movie it seems to bob up and down in the water a bit it may be waves but it could be tethered to a boat, pulling it along.

Look how fast it takes off though,no boat could instantly go that fast.Near the end,the camera goes in front of the creature and nothing is in front of it.So that could be evidence of the sea serpents existence.

Ok let us look at the facts.

1. A speed boat can pretty much just start up and be on its way which would cause the bobbing.

2. Really long thick grade fishing wire. It is invisible on film ( In fact thats how many a ufo pictures are faked).

3. One floating pool noodle carved down at the front to make it more hydrodynamic so that it moves faster through the water.

Ok so... Boat + fishing wire + pool noodle = Fake lake monster pictures

And there is my quick thinking on how to do hoaxes.

Why are you so negative? Lighten up.I thought all the people on here believe in this kind of thing.If you don't believe in it then why are you on this sight?Did you ever think that maybe this isn't a hoax?

Actually there is a difference between negative and reasonable. I am just trying to look at all the possible angles before jumping to conclusions.

So you may want to go here.

And like my new saying goes.

There is a critic in all of use

HOw do i download this?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I downloaded it off of iMesh.

It does look cool, and i hope that it is real more then anyone! I really think that we need more evidence for Cryptids. But, i heard it was from sci fi.

it's fake. if the thing is swimming, why is there no motion besides a forward one? it's not diong anything except moving foraward...and nothing can swim that fast anyways

Nice bit of CGI.

My bet is, that they CGI'd this, to get people to watch any program they're going to have on the issue.

I'm not saying Champ don't exists, I grew up with stories about him, watching the water everytime I hung out at Crown Point.

Since there is no "proof" of Champ's existence,How do you know that a sea serpent like Champ cannot swim that fast?Is there proof that he is sluggish?NO! There is also no proof that this is a fake.So all I'm saying is that maybe this is real.Although there is a small possibility that it is fake,Don't try to convince people that it is ,because it might not be.And I want to hear what EVERYONE thinks about it.Not just the critics,with the exception of a few people.

Its more then a 'little' chance of it being fake. Its more of a 50/50 chance.


Also how do you know that champ isn't sluggish? How do you know this picture isn't fake? You are almost responding like you were there and actually saw this happen.

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Its more then a 'little' chance of it being fake. Its more of a 50/50 chance.


Also how do you know that champ isn't sluggish? How do you know this picture isn't fake? You are almost responding like you were there and actually saw this happen.
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[/quI I STRONGLY believe that sea monsters exist,and I want to believe some of the evidence that I see,not just saying that everything fake,fake,fake like you.I agree with the 50/50 chance that you said though.

canadian i support you i am canadian from quebec and i believe you.

This may also be helpful, understanding how skepticism works

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=21397

I know what skepticism is,I don't need links.

Thanks for agreeing with me Sir_Oguh2

OK, I was just trying to help you understand why most people arn't taking this too seriously. You seam kinda upset

Well then... I did not say everything is fake. I strongly believe in Mokle mombe, aliens, big foot, nessie, ogopogo, the dover demon, globsters, ghosts, among other things. I am just being an 'open minded critic' which is in the meaning I don't believe in everything I see but if I think its highly likely it can exist then I will believe other than that I need solid proof that things I think are fake are actually true.

And in my other replys I'm sorry but I forgot to put another possibility it is the possibility that I could be totally wrong and it is Champ. Now how does that sound to you?

people wake up all the videos on that site are FAKE get that in your heads

I'm not upset Pantera leo atrox,I see your point.

Sounds alright to me

What makes you(Blazer2004)think that everything on that sight is fake? Sci-fi didn't videotape the stuff Other people that did videotape that stuff just post it on there.

dude they are actors trust me

Is it because it seems like they overact?I notice that some people seem like actors(like the ladybug one),which are probably fake,but not all.Do you think that they are ALL fake?

well i've never seen a lake monster so i have no idea how i would react if faced with the situation...

so i'm not sure if this is real or not, the people do seem like actors though, is there anymore information about this anywhere else?

Im going to have to agree with blazer here I mean the bug Video --
the first give away I could notice, were the bugs (ladybugs?) on the
guys hand they looked like they were put in there with computers and
didnt fit ...

The image the bugs supposedly (sp?) made, I have never ever heard of that
happening, nor believe it could happen

Then the "Magnet" video the kids are playing frisbee (who plays frisbee by
a electricity generator dealy) he grabs on to the fence and again the bolts
of lightning look as if they were put there with computers. My guess is that
its just SciFi's way of getting publicity oh well

On a side note I do like how the Champ video was done

Psst, hint for ya: These are promotional drops. These are made and CGI'ed byt Sci Fi so they can play them. They are all faked.

It could be a boat with a long rope tied to it. Meaning by the time it got up to speed it finally tightened the rope enough, but the problem there is it would probably jerk it...

Edit: Looking at it again the start with the big wave could have been the jerk of the rope getting tightened swiftly..

i must admit after i watched the champ vid, i checked out the other ones, and they did look fake to me as well, which made me question the champ one...another is that its on the sci-fi (aka FICTION) website, and not on something like Discovery or Animal Planet...As much as I want to believe, i am having doubts.....

OK, good. You seamed to be using " " a lot.

Hate to say it but it is a fake. It was a promo for the New insearch of show. The video is like 3 years old I think. It was not taken earlier this year.

Do you know for sure that it is fake?No.Do you know that it is 3 years old?No.You need find out for sure before you assume things.So find out,then tell me if you have proof that it is fake.

YES WE DO KNOW! How? Because we've seen what they are for! Sci-Fi has even stated at one point these were thier doing to promote themselves and the show.

*is thinking he's ignoring this fact on purpose*

Wow well I can guess that this topic is going to start getting off topic and spam loaded but yeah...


SHOT DOWN!

So do you guys say that it is real or fake?What is your final answer?

It should be easy to tell from what most of the users have said so I say we can agree at it being fake.

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We've been over this. Those (like that ladybug thing) ARE PROMOTIONAL ADDS FOR SCI-FI! THUS FAKE!

I am going to have to say my final answer is fake, based on the other cheezy vids on that site, and based on the fact they came from the SCIence FIction website-had it been a stand-alone vid or even on a different site, i might be more convinced...sorry

I respect your opinion,don't freak out about it.

I donno... I "freak" maybe because sometimes I feel like I'm repeating myself when you've ask the same question.. over and over...

Seriously, it's great that you "believe" in so many things.. but when something that's so *OBVIOUSLY* not real, I.E. this video clip, you don't have to say "Is this real?" "Do you think it's real?" "So what's the final say, real or not?" umpteenmillion times when the majority of the posters here have pointed out to you that it's fake with knowledge of such.

video clip doesn't work for me