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Honestly, it's a crock a sh**.......... As soon as that guy, whoever he is, starts putting down the people who wrote the Bible, he loses me.....
He doesn't mention satan once either............ I can tell what he's going to say by reading the first few sentences, so I don't need to read the rest.... In fact, the title gives the whole write up away.... The guy has been duped into thinking satan is God... It's called switching that which is good with that which is evil....
He doesn't mention satan once either............ I can tell what he's going to say by reading the first few sentences, so I don't need to read the rest.... In fact, the title gives the whole write up away.... The guy has been duped into thinking satan is God... It's called switching that which is good with that which is evil....
I have a comment; the site says:
The bolding is my emphasis. So satan(and his peeps I guess) has destructive intentions towards humankind. God caused a flood that wiped out everyone on earth aside from a few people(according to the bible), and is generally busy smiting people left and right throughout the bible.
With so much competition for destructive intentions towards humankind it sure is hard to keep track...
As for the sight itself it is well written and a good read. Having never learned to read Hebrew or Greek, I doubt that I would ever be able to say whether the guy is on crack or not. Translating the bible from ancient times to now is such a shot in the dark anyway with the misunderstandings that pop up. Who knows what the original texts referred to.
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Commonly referred to as Satan, devil(s) and demons, these dominantly evil beings are depicted as having destructive intentions toward humankind and are also, presumably, the principal extraterrestrial adversaries at war with Yahweh’s empire.
The bolding is my emphasis. So satan(and his peeps I guess) has destructive intentions towards humankind. God caused a flood that wiped out everyone on earth aside from a few people(according to the bible), and is generally busy smiting people left and right throughout the bible.
With so much competition for destructive intentions towards humankind it sure is hard to keep track...
As for the sight itself it is well written and a good read. Having never learned to read Hebrew or Greek, I doubt that I would ever be able to say whether the guy is on crack or not. Translating the bible from ancient times to now is such a shot in the dark anyway with the misunderstandings that pop up. Who knows what the original texts referred to.
satan is actually mentioned a few times, but the writer tends to lean towards the idea that aliens are angels....
I wont pick apart the whole article, but here's an example....
A quote from the site Norman provided:
There's no need to embelish the story of the Star of Bethlehem, as in that part of the Bible you will not find a part that says the "star" disappeared. Or that the star stopped moving. It moved the way stars move... which is slowly and from the Eastern Sky........
I could go on forever about that bunk write-up........ It could be possible that the particular man who wrote the article is of the Mormon religion. Though I wouldn't know for sure....
I wont pick apart the whole article, but here's an example....
A quote from the site Norman provided:
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The story of Yeshua’s birth is surrounded by other extraordinary events as well. For example, it is reported that a “bright star” was tracked across the sky by numerous observers, including learned men of science serving great kings of the Eastern realms. This star-like object was followed to a point where it is said to have hovered above Yeshua’s birthplace at Bethlehem before disappearing completely (see Mat 2:9,10). It is an easily verifiable fact that studies of constellations and conjunctions of that time show that no natural astronomical star ever behaved in such a manner. One needs only an elementary knowledge of celestial astronomy to know that any true star which can be viewed from earth does not have the ability to move across the sky and then position itself at a very specific locus directly above a tiny village on earth!
There's no need to embelish the story of the Star of Bethlehem, as in that part of the Bible you will not find a part that says the "star" disappeared. Or that the star stopped moving. It moved the way stars move... which is slowly and from the Eastern Sky........
I could go on forever about that bunk write-up........ It could be possible that the particular man who wrote the article is of the Mormon religion. Though I wouldn't know for sure....
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The bolding is my emphasis. So satan(and his peeps I guess) has destructive intentions towards humankind. God caused a flood that wiped out everyone on earth aside from a few people(according to the bible), and is generally busy smiting people left and right throughout the bible.
With so much competition for destructive intentions towards humankind it sure is hard to keep track...
With so much competition for destructive intentions towards humankind it sure is hard to keep track...
You make a good point. As I've read parts of the Bible that do not make sense at all. The Old Testament supposedly didn't bring life, it brought death, and couldn't provide eternal life, etc. Yet the New Testament provides eternal life, and Jesus is almost the exact opposite of the dark cloud that was supposedly God atop Mt. Sinai... who ordered moses to kill people, etc...
So how can a thing called God order the killing of others, and even repent of sins, while Jesus Christ, the Son of God has never sinned, nor likes or orders the killing of others? How is the Son of God far better than God?
I have come to the conclusion that satan had often disguised himself as God, and even today disguises himself as God, and "angels of light."
A dark cloud with a voice that shoots fire from the bottom of it reminds me of a UFO with a mist around it, shooting exhaust from the bottom with a loudspeaker attached to the UFO. Considering this "thing" also ordered Moses to kill people and "it" repented of sins. I truly wonder if it was really GOD our Father.......... or an evil force called satan masquerading as God.
Such statments can only come from not reading enough.
blah blah blah, aliens don't exist don't you get that.
I do now. Perhaps you're right.
Maybe this is just a futile attempt to proove aliens. No?
Alright then. Maybe aliens do not exist.
Maybe this is just a futile attempt to proove aliens. No?
Alright then. Maybe aliens do not exist.
QUOTE(Mishari @ Oct 12 2004, 09:05 PM)
blah blah blah, aliens don't exist don't you get that.
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blah blah blah, you dont exist dont you get it?
You know, it might not be an error to say that aliens do exist,
but it can be an error to say that they absolutely do not exist
because then you would deny the possibility which BTW is fair.
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but it can be an error to say that they absolutely do not exist
because then you would deny the possibility which BTW is fair.
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I don’t know about aliens, but I can understand the problem of translating Hebrew and the bible to English. Since Hebrew is a much older language or maybe since English is a combination of a few, there are a lot more words in English than in Hebrew. One word in the bible that can mean a few things, will force a translator to choose between a few words in English that mean different things.
At least in his argument about the word “shamayim” in Isa 13:10 and Gen 15:5 (in the first part “The Extraterrestrial Paradigm”), he is partly right. The meaning in Hebrew is sky and not Heaven. The whole idea of Heaven and Hell is not part of Judaism, so the translation is different than the original.
At least in his argument about the word “shamayim” in Isa 13:10 and Gen 15:5 (in the first part “The Extraterrestrial Paradigm”), he is partly right. The meaning in Hebrew is sky and not Heaven. The whole idea of Heaven and Hell is not part of Judaism, so the translation is different than the original.
As a Judeau-Christian; and an experiencer, abductee, contactee(take your pick)-it takes no great 'leap of faith' to see the scriptural connection to the observation of the beings.
However, I don't deny the existance of Satan. There is plenty of evil in this world to prove his existance; but when it comes to the credibility of G-d and his angels; regardless of the form they take-it surprises me how quick people are to doubt.
I believe more people are willing to accept the reality of Satan; before they accept the reality of G-d and His messangers (regardless of thier form).
People are only now coming out of the box. There are many perceptions, until the truth is made crystal clear.
However, seeking the 'truth' is what it is all about and the journey will be long and hard. It is all right to question and ask, because how else are you going to find what you are looking for.
Regardless of the answer to the truth relating to 'angels'-as long as, they come from G-d ; they can come in any form they choose.
I am but a mere mortal in this realm and still on the quest.
However, I don't deny the existance of Satan. There is plenty of evil in this world to prove his existance; but when it comes to the credibility of G-d and his angels; regardless of the form they take-it surprises me how quick people are to doubt.
I believe more people are willing to accept the reality of Satan; before they accept the reality of G-d and His messangers (regardless of thier form).
People are only now coming out of the box. There are many perceptions, until the truth is made crystal clear.
However, seeking the 'truth' is what it is all about and the journey will be long and hard. It is all right to question and ask, because how else are you going to find what you are looking for.
Regardless of the answer to the truth relating to 'angels'-as long as, they come from G-d ; they can come in any form they choose.
I am but a mere mortal in this realm and still on the quest.
well said rachel, well said.
QUOTE(_CHIN_ @ Oct 12 2004, 02:51 AM)
Honestly, it's a crock a sh**.......... As soon as that guy, whoever he is, starts putting down the people who wrote the Bible, he loses me.....
He doesn't mention satan once either............ I can tell what he's going to say by reading the first few sentences, so I don't need to read the rest.... In fact, the title gives the whole write up away.... The guy has been duped into thinking satan is God... It's called switching that which is good with that which is evil....
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He doesn't mention satan once either............ I can tell what he's going to say by reading the first few sentences, so I don't need to read the rest.... In fact, the title gives the whole write up away.... The guy has been duped into thinking satan is God... It's called switching that which is good with that which is evil....
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I agree.
I had the same reaction, as soon as I read a little bit, I knew I needed to read no further! LOL! 
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The picture we get from many of the Indian texts is one of a “Star Wars” epic wherein heroic battles are waged among the sky gods for personal, political, and planetary conquest.
That is correct, whatever the guy wrote and thought. The true problem is finding a well done translation of vedic and jewish texts. Often some writers see UFOs everywhere, transforming mythology into ufology.
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Honestly, it's a crock a sh**.......... As soon as that guy, whoever he is, starts putting down the people who wrote the Bible, he loses me.....
He doesn't mention satan once either............ I can tell what he's going to say by reading the first few sentences, so I don't need to read the rest.... In fact, the title gives the whole write up away.... The guy has been duped into thinking satan is God... It's called switching that which is good with that which is evil....
He doesn't mention satan once either............ I can tell what he's going to say by reading the first few sentences, so I don't need to read the rest.... In fact, the title gives the whole write up away.... The guy has been duped into thinking satan is God... It's called switching that which is good with that which is evil....
1. He is't putting down the people who wrote the bible.
The only problem is the translations and the various meanings of words
that looses many.
2. Why assume that UFOs are of Satan?
3. If I'm correct on my theory, then you are duped into thinking the opposite
of what the bible says.
4. You obviously do not know whether UFOs are of Satan or not.
You cannot show me one passage that says that Satan operates a UFO.
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