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Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(Gods_Soldier @ Oct 31 2004, 01:42 PM)
Stellar sorry for saying:


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Interpretation for you, truth for me


Didnt know who i was talking to though, you are very skeptical tongue.gif
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He has a very good reason to be skeptical.
anything is possible
lol, I love watching this topic. God_soldier, you will begin to realize more information that you will find on the internet and other sources, which will in return expand your understanding on different topics and different views. The bible doesn't hold all truth, but you yourself hold all the knowledge that exists within the universe. I know you will do well on your journey of understanding. original.gif cool.gif
firefemme1202
I have to ask...Norman and God_Soldier...what are you guys? Like what spirituality? What religion? Do you not go to church but pray from your homes? Baptist? Jehovah Witness? What bible do each of you refer to? King James or just The Bible? Do you follow the Old or New Testament?

I'm curious because when you look at all these variations, how do you "know" which one to follow? New or Old? Jew or Christian? King James Bible or The Bible? I mean, you both talk about how the "bible" is right, period. Which one? Which religion? Which belief system...you must admit, it makes the "bible" very skeptical when within the system itself of religion and spirituality and believing in God there are so many ambiguous variations on the "truth." So let me know your answers to my first questions, each of you, it will be interesting to see how similiar or dissimilar each of your answers vary from eachother.
dunderhead
QUOTE(firefemme1202 @ Oct 31 2004, 11:19 PM)
I have to ask...Norman and God_Soldier...what are you guys? [right][snapback]333547[/snapback][/right]

I could tell you but I dont think they would allow me to print it? laugh.gif
Picking words out of the Bible and turning them around for your own interpretation isn't so hard to do. I'm suprised this topic has lasted this long!
DarkSide
Well then some where or another, I think the discovery channel. They said they thought that under the ice surface of neptune that there is an entire oceon. So later in the futer they are going to send a probe tere to release a machine that will tunnel to the liquid and release a submarine, to see if there is local fauna/flora. I really do believe that there will be alien species of fish/crustceans/invertabrates, but thinking of this makes me laugh because pretty much your saying that ALL species of alien life is evil, so in general your saying that president bush is being controlled by alien fish 8 miles under ice on Neptune? Also I would like to know since you seem to know alot about the bible and heaven and such. Would you happen to know where the 'gates of heaven' are located, alos where is 'hell' located?

It also sounds like your almost trying to convert people religion, but most religions don't pray. So are you telling me that millions of people who don't pray are being abducted by aliens and being chipped, just because they don't pray.


Its now time for...... THE STUD FINDER!
Gods_Soldier
Thanks "anything is possible" lol....

What am i? i am just an average guy...i pray everyday and Never goto church (sorry i just dont believe in paul teaching anymore) i read the bible both old and new mostly new though... i have been baptized and i also work with the bible code...which says a code about me saying i am against aliens and that i will be in a joel army (< not sure what that means) and that i will die in a war >:( but its funny how it all ends in 2012 becuase God will make his heaven in earth and ressurect all the people who fought to keep the truth grin2.gif... when the time comes people WILL call me a stanist because i will refuse to believe in the So-called God that comes in a UFO, i will believe that God will come later with his army of angels.


<By aliens iam talking about the Reptillian dracos anuks greys and demonic like creature God did not just create earth but he created the universerse clap.gif
Gods_Soldier
Oh yeah btw Dunder Head if you give me your name and surname i could reveal who You really are... so i wouldnt talk by the way your acting.
Gods_Soldier
Oh yeah NORMAN show me were it says that God rides an aerial....

I knelt to pray but not for long,
I had too much to do.
I had to hurry and get to work
For bills would soon be due.
So I knelt and said a hurried prayer,
And jumped up off my knees.
My Christian duty was now done
My soul could rest at ease.
All day long I had no time
To spread a word of cheer.
No time to speak of Christ to friends,
They'd laugh at me I'd fear.
No time, no time, too much to do,
That was my constant cry,
No time to give to souls in need
But at last the time, the time to die.
I went before the Lord,
I came, I stood with downcast eyes.
For in his hands God held a book;
It was the book of life.
God looked into his book and said
"Your name I cannot find.
I once was going to write it down...
But never found the time"


Thats a lesson to all christians lol notworthy.gif
Gods_Soldier
Skeptics explai this code as you know Jedi's were watchers of earth until they revolted against god :


Ancient - Watchman - Origin - Genesis - Mutiny - Revolt - Rebellion - Insurrection - Seed - God - Creation - God - Cherub - Flawless - Upright - Ruling - Distance - Widespread - Mutiny - Revolt -
Habitation - Dwelling - Solar - Space - Hovercraft - Planet - Earth - Nibiru - Hostile - Archenemy - Evil - Wickedness - Planetary - Stray - Errant - Angel(s) - Cherub - Rahab - Planet - Satan - Nibiru - Habitat - Home - Nibiru - Earth - Advent - Coming - Arrival - Returning - Ruling - Cohabitation.
Stellar
Gods soldier: First of all, Jedi's???!?!?!

Burnside: You were right... SW is gonna be a religion in a couple hundred years!

Gods Soldier: Care to explain exactly how you got these codes? I've seen people find codes out of other large books... the writters didnt claim to have put secret codes in it though...
Gods_Soldier
LOL no no jedi as in star wars shheeshh sad.gif

And i got the codes from the bible code
DarkSide
I've seen plenty of fish on earth that look demonic doesn't mean they are. But yes, this is all nonsense in my eyes, I believe in recarnation, and life from other worlds, but heaven/hell/god/jesus/angels are all myths in my eyes.
Gods_Soldier
..... original.gif No comment.
X~File_Agent
Tell me, is this the same code that also predicted some doomsday prophecies for the year 2000?
Gods_Soldier
nope
X~File_Agent
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X~File_Agent Posted Today, 04:31 PM
  Tell me, is this the same code that also predicted some doomsday prophecies for the year 2000?


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Gods_Soldier Posted Today, 04:33 PM
  nope



As Judge Dredd says. "I knew you'd say that"

Well, I suggest you do some more research my friend. Because the Bible Code did mention Y2K, but there is catch. The reasone they found it, was because they wanted to find it.

I suggest you read these links carefully. I'm sure you will not agree with them, but they are correct. Also the software you use, was written by a programmer. The programmer, used keywords to find the text. I'm sure the programmer also believes in the code, so he used his infinite wisdom to come up with some good words that spell doom.

Hate to burst your bubble, but the Bible Code that you use now was used to predict Y2K. As we all know absolutely NOTHING happened.

Link 1
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Link 4

Enjoy! thumbsup.gif
the master theologian
People comment my ideas and portray me as a fool.
However, if you do not listen first,
then YOU are the fool. So, those of you who are still
unwilling to acknowledge what the Bible says, here is something
that will enlighten all of you.
the master theologian
THE UFO ANALOGY:
"All these clouds, whirlwinds, pillars, vessels, chariots and pavilions are
seen hovering in, coming down from or rising into heaven. The thunders, trumpets and voices that are heard are heard from heaven.
All the men who leave the ground and all the angels and metallic, glowing beings that come down to the ground do so either to, or from, heaven. All the lightnings, streams of fire, brimstone and other destructive things mentioned have their origin in heaven. Even wars are fought in heaven. Since all these things are seen in relationship to heaven, the way the word ‘heaven’ is used is the key to understanding these phenomenon and must be explained. The word heaven is used over 500 times in the Bible. In the Old Testament ‘heaven’ is translated almost exclusively from two different words. The Hebrew word 'shamayim' which is defined as ‘the sky',
the place where the clouds and stars are, or 'shamayin', the
Aramaic word of the same definition.

In the Old Testament ‘heaven’ is translated from other words only five
times
in the following verses:
Psalms 68:4 it is translated from the Hebrew, arabah, ‘ the
desert ‘
77:18 the word is galgal, Hebrew for ‘ wheel
or whirlwind '
89:6 & 37 where it is translated from the word
shachaq, Hebrew for ‘ powder or thin vapor ’.
Isaiah 5:30 heaven is translated from ariyph, Hebrew for ‘ the
sky ‘
The New Testament defines ‘heaven’ from the Greek word ‘ouranos’
meaning ‘the sky’ in all but 7 instances :
Philippians 2:10 Greek epouranos, ‘ above the sky, celestial ‘
Revelation 8:13, 14:6, 19:1, 11, 14, and 17 from the Greek word
mesouranema, meaning mid-sky

The infrequency of the word ‘sky‘ in the Bible must also be looked
at in the overall study of this concept. The words sky or skies only appear
11 times in all 66 books. The words for things that normally appear in the
sky such as clouds, stars, whirlwinds, storms, lightning, birds, rain, hail
and wind appear over 600 times. Heaven is the word the translators of the
King James Bible in the early 1600's purposefully translated into the
original words biblical authors used for the physical sky and not some
ethereal plane. The King James Bible was translated for King James of
England who lived in a royal castle, surrounded by royal people, all
speaking a royal language; a very proper form of court English.The Court
English employed entirely different words to describe things,
thus,confusing the commoners as to the meaning of certain words. You was
thee, raiment was clothing and sky was heaven. Therefore, in all but the
above noted instances, the word heaven should be read as sky. Heaven is
the sky and sky fits in every instance. Heaven is not the place with the
'pearly gates' or the 'streets of gold ' as the pulpit would have you
believe. That is the new Jerusalem and is described in Revelation.
Heaven is not said to be a reward for paying your tithes or a final
destination for certain church members. Heaven is where God flies, the
same place the birds fly. Heaven is where God lives because that is
where his throne is and his throne flies. And if any more proof is
needed just consider the inheritance of the beatitudes. "The meek
shall inherit the Earth", not heaven. The heaven of the pulpit is a
simplistic, human conceptualization not a Biblically based reality.
Gen 1:8 "And God called the firmament Heaven."

(All references are taken from Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance)

The continuing appearance of flying craft from Genesis to
Revelation gives proof positive that it is the preferred
and only form of divine transport.

To all christians:
One of the core principles upon which this work was founded is based on
the biblical edict to prove the concepts it represents as stated in
1 Thessalonians 5:21, "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."

Throughout history witnesses have
testified to the existence of rapidly flying, glowing, flashing, spinning,
metallic objects that appear dark and solid like low clouds in daylight,
while brightly lit, with projected beams of light at night. These objects
descend to the ground, ascend into the sky, and hover above ground for long
periods, sounds are broadcast from them, and exhibit power to alter the
natural laws. Humans and other beings are described as ascending up into
and descending down from these objects and perception of time is altered.
This presentation is dedicated to the proposition that the Bible is the
ancient record of a race of ultra-terrestrials. They are in a state of
being that we can't perceive, but possess a technology that we can easily
comprehend. This technology is concentrated in two specific areas, the
flying vehicles these entities use for transportation and the phenomenon
that occur in the presence of those vehicles. The Lord Yhovah of the
Old Testament, who became the Lord Jesus of the New Testament, is described
as flying in thick clouds, swift clouds, bright clouds, dark clouds,
white clouds, low clouds, great clouds, and fiery clouds. And that's only
the clouds. There are also the platforms, vessels, whirling chariots of
fire, sky thrones, fiery horses, cherubims, thick darkness, great fire,
whirlwinds, fiery wheels, pavilions, dark waters, storms, sky dwellings,
rolls, and sanctuaries. Whether or not one believes these objects are
actually flying vehicles that the God of the Bible lives in, appears with,
travels in, and is considerd the seat of his power, is a matter of opinion.
The fact that they do not appear without him or his ambassadors and that,
in most major appearances, he and other beings are clearly described as
directly associated with these flying objects, is undeniable.
II Ki 2:11 "And it came to pass, as they still went on,
and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of
fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a
whirlwind into heaven." Ps 68:17-18 "The chariots of God are twenty thousand,
even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy
place. Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou
hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD
God might dwell among them." A clear indication of the physical nature of
these flying craft is their description as chariots of the Elohiym.
The words from which ‘chariot’ is translated mean vehicle, cavalry, or
millstone, which, of course, is a thick disc-shaped object. The actual
attachment of the number 20,000, though vague in true meaning, shows that a
great number of flying vehicles are associated with the Elohiym, a fleet.
Isa 66:15 "For, behold, the LORD will come
with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger
with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire." Ps 104:2-4 "Who coverest
thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like
a curtain: Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh
the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind: Who maketh
his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:" Jer 4:13 "Behold, he shall
come up as clouds, and his chariots shall be as a whirlwind: his horses are
swifter than eagles. Woe unto us! for we are spoiled."
Clouds are the most common descriptions of the flying vehicles of the
Elohiym. This is not surprising considering the probable size and density
in daylight hours attributed to these objects. The word most often used in
the Old Testament for cloud is `anan, a cloud (as covering the sky),
for example: the nimbus or thunder-cloud. The descriptions as a dark cloud,
thick cloud, and dark water all allude to a solid object in the sky.
Since there were no solid flying objects 2000 to 4000 years
ago, and the only things close were thunder or storm clouds, this is a
logical relation. For those that may cling to the belief that these are
actually clouds, the flight characteristics, glowing at night, and other
anomalous behavior, leaves such a narrow view very much in doubt.
Perhaps the most important reference to clouds is that Jesus will return
with an army in the clouds. Mark 14:62 "...and ye shall
see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the
clouds of heaven." If these clouds are not the fluffy kind, but
very sophisticated flying craft, as the Bible records, then this would
seem to have relevance to properly identifying that army. When Bible
text says that Yhovah rides a swift cloud, are we to believe that he is
literally sitting atop a cloud speeding through the sky? When the cloud
turns to fire at night, are we to accept that it catches on fire, even
though clouds can't burn? And when it stays in a stationary position
for months, catching fire every night and burning out every morning,
are we really talking about a cloud? No, this, or these, are not clouds.
They are only named such because no one had ever heard about flying saucers,
UFOs, spacecraft or star ships. They didn't even have balloons. The only
big things in the sky during that time were clouds, so they called the
objects clouds. Exodus 16:10 "And it came to pass, as Aaron spake unto the
whole congregation of the children of Israel, that they looked toward
the wilderness, and, behold, the glory of the Lord appeared in the cloud."
The statement that Yhovah has chariots that are cloud-like is a direct key
to the nature of the clouds associated with the Second Coming, literally
thousands of flying vehicles."
Exodus 34:5 "And the Lord descended in the cloud, and stood with him there,
and proclaimed the name of the Lord..." The book of Exodus is where we get
the first indication that Yhovah uses physical flying objects as a mode of
transportation. It is described as a pillar of a cloud during the day and
a pillar of fire at night. The word pillar is translated from `ammuwd,
(pronounced, am-mood) a column as standing; also a stand, or platform.
This means that this could either be a column or a platform that had the
appearance of a cloud in the daylight and when the sun went down, it lit up.
And, it is staying close to the people, in other words, hovering. When
considered in light of the many other descriptions, platform seems a more
logical choice. Exodus 13:21 "And the Lord went before them by day in a
pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire,
to give them light; to go by day and night: He took not away the pillar of
the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people."
14:19 "And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed
and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their
face, and stood behind them:" 14:24 And it came to pass, that in the morning
watch the Lord looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of
fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians." 33:9
"And it came to pass, as Moses entered into the tabernacle, the cloudy pillar
descended, and stood at the door of the tabernacle, and the Lord talked with
Moses. And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door:
and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door."
Numbers 12:5 "And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in
the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came
forth." 12:5 "And they will tell it to the inhabitants of this land: for they
have heard that thou LORD art among this people, that thou LORD art seen face
to face, and that thy cloud standeth over them, and that thou goest before
them, by day time in a pillar of a cloud, and in a pillar of fire by night."
Ps 68:4 "Sing to God, sing praises to His name; Extol Him
who rides on the clouds, by His name YAH, and rejoice before Him."
Numbers 9:16-22
"So it was alway: the cloud covered it by day, and the appearance of fire
by night. And when the cloud was taken up from the tabernacle, then after
that the children of Israel journeyed: and in the place where the cloud
abode, there the children of Israel pitched their tents. At the commandment
of the LORD the children of Israel journeyed, and at the commandment of the
LORD they pitched: as long as the cloud abode upon the tabernacle they
rested in their tents. And when the cloud tarried long upon the tabernacle
many days, then the children of Israel kept the charge of the LORD, and
journeyed not. And so it was, when the cloud was a few days upon the
tabernacle; according to the commandment of the LORD they abode in their
tents, and according to the commandment of the LORD they journeyed.
And so it was, when the cloud abode from even unto the morning, and that
the cloud was taken up in the morning, then they journeyed: whether it
was by day or by night that the cloud was taken up, they journeyed.
Or whether it were two days, or a month, or a year, that the cloud tarried
upon the tabernacle, remaining thereon, the children of Israel abode in
their tents, and journeyed not: but when it was taken up, they journeyed."
Deuteronomy 1:33 "Who went in the way before you, to search you out a
place to pitch your tents in, in fire by night, to shew you by what way ye
should go, and in a cloud by day." Deuteronomy 4:11 "And ye came near and
stood under the mountain; and the mountain burned with fire unto the
midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds, and thick darkness. " in chapter
5:22, it says "These words the Lord spake unto all your assembly in the mount
out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness,
with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables
of stone, and delivered them unto me." The fact that the Bible describes
the objects as in the sky and is clear about how they fly, reinforces the
physical nature of these vehicles. They descend and land on the ground,
they ascend and takeoff from the ground, they hover above the ground, and
they travel swiftly in flight. The entries in this section are references
to general flight descriptions, non specific sightings in flight.
Isaiah 31:5 "As birds flying, so will the Lord of hosts defend Jerusalem;
defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it."
Deuteronomy 31:15 "And the LORD appeared in the tabernacle in a pillar of a
cloud: and the pillar of the cloud stood over the door of the tabernacle."
Nehemiah 9:12 "Moreover thou leddest them in the day by a cloudy pillar; and
in the night by a pillar of fire, to give them light in the way wherein they
should go. Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them
from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes
and commandments:" 9:19 "Yet thou in thy manifold mercies for sookest them
not in the wilderness: the pillar of the cloud departed not from them by day,
to lead them in the way; neither the pillar of fire by night, to shew them
light, and the way wherein they should go." Ezekiel 10:16 "And when the
cherubims went, the wheels went by them: and when the cherubims lifted up
their wings to mount up from the earth, the same wheels also turned not
from beside them." Psalms 99:7 "He spake unto them
in the cloudy pillar: they kept his testimonies, and the ordinance that he
gave them." Revelation 10:1 "And I saw another mighty angel come down from
heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face
was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:"
Stationed in the sky, high and lifted up, elevated above the earth, hidden
from view in the clouds, flashing flames, and other anomalous traits give the
throne of Yhovah a different perspective from the thrones of earthly kings.
2 Chronicles 18:18 "Again he said, Therefore hear the word of the Lord; I
saw the Lord sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing
on his right hand and on his left." Job 26:9 "He holdeth back the face of
his throne, and spreadeth his cloud upon it." Psalms 45:6 "Thy throne,
O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre."
In other words, the throne of God is timless.
Psalms 97:2 "Clouds and darkness are round about him: righteousness and
judgment are the habitation of his throne." Psalms 103:19 "The Lord hath
prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all."
Isaiah 6:1 "In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting
upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple."
Daniel 7:9 "I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the ancient of days
did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the
pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his
wheels as burning fire." Revelation 12:5 "And she brought forth a man child,
who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught
up unto God, and to his throne." 2 Samuel 22:10 "He bowed the heavens also,
and came down; and darkness was under his feet. And he rode upon a
cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind.
22:12 "And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick
clouds of the skies. Through the brightness before him were coals of fire
kindled." 2 Chronicles 6:1 Then said Solomon, The Lord hath said that he
would dwell in the thick darkness." Psalms 18:8 "There went up a smoke out of
his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.
18:11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were
dark waters and thick clouds of the skies." The darkness associated with the
vehicles of the Elohiym seems to refer to the density or solidity of these
objects which the authors use to distinguish them from natural clouds.
Thick darkness is described and dark waters could be a description of a
shiny reflecting surface. Psalms 97:2 "Clouds and darkness are round about
him: righteousness and judgment are the habitation of his throne."
Isaiah 60:2 "For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross
darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall
be seen upon thee." Genesis 15:17 "And it came to pass, that, when the sun
went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp
that passed between those pieces." Until almost 2000 years after the last
book of the Bible was written, there were no forms of artificial light and
if a flashlight were turned on in the camp of Moses, it would be a miracle,
to say the least. The only lights known were the sun, the moon, stars,
fire, lightning, and reflections from those sources. It is not surprising
that these sources are what the authors used to describe the illumination
appearing from these vehicles and the beings associated with them.
Genesis 19:24 "Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone
and fire from the Lord out of heaven." Exodus 19:18 "And Mount Sinai was
altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the
smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked
greatly. And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder
and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice." Exodus 40:34
"Then a cloud covered the tent of the congregation, and the glory of the
Lord filled the tabernacle. And Moses was not able to enter into the
tent of the congregation, because the cloud abode thereon, and the glory
of the Lord filled the tabernacle. And when the cloud was taken up
from over the tabernacle, the children of Israel went onward in all their
journeys: But if the cloud were not taken up, then they journeyed not
till the day that it was taken up. For the cloud of the Lord was upon
the tabernacle by day, and fire was on it by night, in the sight of all the
house of Israel, throughout all their journeys." Leviticus 9:24 "And there
came a fire out from before the Lord, and consumed upon the altar the burnt
offering and the fat: which when all the people saw, they shouted, and fell
on their faces." 1 Kings 18:38 "Then the fire of the Lord fell, and consumed
the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked
up the water that was in the trench. 2 Kings 1:10 "And Elijah answered and
said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of God, then let fire come
down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire
from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty." 2 Kings 6:17 "And Elisha
prayed, and said, Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And
the Lord opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the
mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
And when they came down to him, Elisha prayed unto the Lord, and said,
Smite this people, I pray thee, with blindness. And he smote them with
blindness according to the word of Elisha." 1 Chronicles 21:26 "And David
built there an altar unto the Lord, and offered burnt offerings and peace
offerings, and called upon the Lord; and he answered him from heaven by
fire upon the altar of burnt offering." 2 Chronicles 7:1 "Now when Solomon
had made an end of praying, the fire came down from heaven, and consumed
the burnt offering and the sacrifices; and the glory of the Lord filled
the house. And the priests could not enter into the house of the Lord,
because the glory of the Lord had filled the Lord's house. And when all
the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the
Lord upon the house, they bowed themselves with their faces to the ground
upon the pavement, and worshipped, and praised the Lord, saying, For he
is good; for his mercy endureth for ever." Nehemiah 9:12 Moreover thou
leddest them in the day by a cloudy pillar; and in the night by a pillar of
fire, to give them light in the way wherein they should go. Thou camest
down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest
them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments:"
Nehemiah 9:19 "Yet thou in thy manifold mercies for sookest them not in the
wilderness: the pillar of the cloud departed not from them by day, to lead
them in the way; neither the pillar of fire by night, to shew them light,
and the way wherein they should go." Job 37:15 "Dost thou know when God
disposed them, and caused the light of his cloud to shine?" Psalms 11:6
"Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible
tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup." Job 18:8 There went up a
smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were
kindled by it. He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness
was under his feet." Flying furnaces, burning bushes, eagles wings,
smokes, stars, and other objects could be some of the other descriptions
the ancient authors use to describe the fleet vehicles of the Elohiym.
Job 18:12 "At the brightness that was before him his
thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire." Psalms 105: 39
"He spread a cloud for a covering; and fire to give light in the night."
Psalms 97:3 "A fire goeth before him, and burneth up his enemies round
about." Isaiah 6:2 "Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings;
with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and
with twain he did fly." Isaiah 60:3 "And the Gentiles shall come to thy
light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising." Isaiah 66:15 For, behold,
the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind,
to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire."
Daniel 7:9 "I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the ancient of
days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head
like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels
as burning fire." Matthew 2:9 "When they had heard the king, they departed;
and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it
came and stood over where the young child was." Matthew 17:5 "While he yet
spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of
the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased;
hear ye him." Matthew 24:27 "For as the lightning cometh out of the east,
and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of
man be." Luke 2:8 "And there were in the same country shepherds abiding
in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel
of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about
them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, Fear not:
for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all
people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour,
which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall
find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger."
Acts 10:30 "And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour;
and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before
me in bright clothing,"2 Thessalonians 1:8 "In flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus
Christ:" Hebrews 12:18 "For ye are not come unto the mount that might be
touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and
tempest, And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice
they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any
more:" Revelation 18:1 "And after these things I saw another angel come down
from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Revelation 20:9 "And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed
the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down
from God out of heaven, and devoured them."
1 Chronicles 28:18 "And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight;
and gold for the pattern of the chariot of the Cherubims, that spread out
their wings, and covered the ark of the covenant of the Lord."
Psalms 150:1 "Praise ye the Lord. Praise God in his sanctuary:
praise him in the firmament of his power." Acts 10:16 "This was done
thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven."
Here Peter describes a sheet like object that descended from heaven.
This vessel could be an apparatus. It is described as descending
by its four corners. 1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is
the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in
the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on
in the world, received up into glory." Matthew 24:30 "And then shall
appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the
tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in
the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." 26:64 "Jesus saith
unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye
see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the
clouds of heaven." Mark 13:26 "And then shall they see the Son of man coming
in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels,
and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost
part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven."
Jesus will be seen coming in the clouds. Jesus will send angels from the
extremities of the sky to the four corners of the Earth to pick up his
selected people. Mark 14:62 "And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son
of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of
heaven." Luke 21:27 "And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a
cloud with power and great glory." 1 Thessalonians 4:17 "Then we which are
alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,
to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him,
and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail
because of him. Even so, Amen." Gen 5:24 "And Enoch walked with God;
and he was not, for God took him." Ezekiel 43:5 "So the spirit took me up,
and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the Lord
filled the house." Mark 16:19 "So then after the Lord had spoken unto them,
he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God."
John 1:51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter
ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending
upon the Son of man. Acts 1:2 "Until the day in which he was taken up,
after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the
apostles whom he had chosen." Acts 1:9 "And when he had spoken these things,
while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their
sight." Revelation 11:11 "And after three days and an half the Spirit of
life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great
fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven
saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud;
and their enemies beheld them." Exodus 34:5 "And the Lord descended in the
cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the Lord..."
the master theologian
Conclusions: YHWH - the Lord - the God of the Bible and His angels ride
the physical sky in flying chariots that have the appearance of clouds,
chariot = clavary, vehicle, millstone (might even give the exact shape)
it has a vast array of powerful weapons, and lights. God's throne is in
the sky, and it is massive. According to the Bible, this is all true.
Of course, you don't have to believe the Bible. rolleyes.gif original.gif

Furthermore, this is based on the assumption that
1. God is real
2. UFOs are real
3. The Bible is true
If you believe in just these 3 elements, you can
believe the above written theory.
Cookie_007
I believe Aliens are Humans just thousands of years into the future. We will evolve to look like the most common Alien. Small, bald, big black eyes, 2 slits for a nose, you know what i mean. It is believed that in a few hundred years, Humans will not have a little finger and will only be born with 4 fingers. Its a scientific fact infact. I believe Aliens travel back in time to see what the world was like when we ruled it and maybe, how we destroyed it. All the flying saucers you see, the cigar shapes etc etc, are the flying machines of the future. Not everyone will like this theory, but its the one i believe. I do think that there is life on another planet, but a planet that is ruled by alien beings, with huge flying machines and they visit us in super sonic craft??? Maybe, maybe not. No-one knows, but we all have our theories, and now you have mine.
Gods_Soldier
X file sorry i have never found that code...

Norman lol i will talk to you later.
the master theologian
Gods Soldier, are you backing down?
Where is your bible now to proove me wrong, huh?
*chuckles*
Gods_Soldier
i will make it as small as possible :

Spirit, cloud angels these are all the things that are assoiated with what you say... not a disc shape from the abyss nor unearthly beings...

Spirits are NOT UFO'S

Niether are clouds

or angles...
the master theologian
Who ever said that angels or Jesus was a spirit?
You obviously did not read what I wrote.
God flies by means of a cloud-like chariot.
Is that so hard to understand?
Gods_Soldier
sorry for the short reply i am doing other stuff at the moment
X~File_Agent
Norman
QUOTE
X file sorry i have never found that code...


Not to be argumentative. I know you and Norman are going at it. But you missed my point, or chose to ignore it. It took me awhile to find the information. For it to be dismissed by one line.

My point is, that if you want to find doomsday words in the bible code, you will find it. My other point is, that your Bible Code FAILED on Y2K. What makes you think it will not fail again on 2012 or any other year?
Gods_Soldier
cloud, cloud, not an ufo
Gods_Soldier
GOD CAN STOP, SPEED UP, AND EVEN CHANGE TIME...

but the end of days are known from the last 2 beasts...

its not just for one title there have been Many anti christs... but the last one is when the two beasts rise.
dunderhead
QUOTE(Gods_Soldier @ Nov 1 2004, 11:43 AM)
Oh yeah btw Dunder Head if you give me your name and surname i could reveal who You really are... so i wouldnt talk by the way your acting.
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I thought you had all the answers? No way are you gonna have my name, you're starting to freak me out man! huh.gif
I do find what you say about the Draco interesting, I've read theories about these sub terrainian beings, but when you start to preach from the Bible everything just goes to pot and it all sounds loopy! I am sorry if I do sound a bit hard on you but it is hard to grasp what you post sometimes.
Gods_Soldier
Lol i owuldnt do anything like that i was jking... but if you want me to i would be happy..
X~File_Agent
Still waiting for an answer.... comments, from my post above. Well the previous page now.
Paddy5
aliens arnt fallen angels. theyre ALIENS! alien.gif duh
if they were, wouldnt they hav a halo or wings?
or at least a large, white gown?
i do like aliens, but that 'fallen angel' buisness is crud.
id like to see it say on the news 'Alien Discovered With Halo, Wings And Gown.
Fallen Angel?
yeah. like that'll happen.
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(Paddy5 @ Nov 1 2004, 02:00 PM)
aliens arnt fallen angels. theyre ALIENS! alien.gif  duh
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I agree that they are not fallen angels, but what are aliens to you?

QUOTE
if they were, wouldnt they hav a halo or wings?
or at least a large, white gown?


That would be your story book angel, not necessarily what they really look like. (If they do) The halo is on all saintly figures in the stain glass around churchs. This was no more than something done to emphasize that they are holy.

firefemme1202
God Soldier....I'm very curious about this code...how did you derive it? If it is true like you say, then please, by all means, tell me what my name means.
Sheryl Robeson. And please, post it in this topic. I want to see how your code truly relates to me. And I would like to know if many people use your code. P.S. I'm agnostic just in case you wanted to know before running my name through your code.
the master theologian
QUOTE
aliens arnt fallen angels. theyre ALIENS!  duh
if they were, wouldnt they hav a halo or wings?
or at least a large, white gown?
i do like aliens, but that 'fallen angel' buisness is crud.

I see. So then, you cannot define what an angel is can you?
Angels are supposed to be mythical beings just like aliens.
UFOs and the chariots of God are supposed to by mythical
vehicles. With all due respect, you've got to be stupid not
to see the similarity. 1. The Bible does't say that angels have
wings. Infact most angels do not have wings in the Bible.
They fly in cloud-like chariots. 2. The Bible does't say that
God rides in a UFO, but it does describe what He flies in.
And the analogy points to a UFO! Its that simple!
Stellar
And can you for once tell me why god needs a UFO? If he needs it, he's not truely a god.
DarkSide
Yes why would he need a technologically advanced space ship to shoot at stuff whith a laser, when he can just smite it with a giant thunder bolt or something?
the master theologian
Because in the Torah, God or YWHW is not singular but plural.
Meaning that there is more than one. This is where the belief
where the trinity comes from. God the Father, God the Son,
and God the Holy Spirit. According to the New Testament,
God the Son operates a flying object that is described earlier
in the old Testament. Just because (the physica) Jesus operates
a ufo does not mean that He is't God. God the Father created the
universe according to the Bible, and God the Son links this invisible
power to the visible world.
the master theologian
Christians are all unaware of the fact that Jesus is alive
today in space.
Stellar
Norman: Ever thought that maybe you're the one thats wrong?

Also, God *needing* a spaceship kind of proves that God isnt truely God...
Gods_Soldier
Norman is this a joke?

God does not need a space ship!!!!! Aliens arent friend well the greys etc....they arent angels there fallen angels (Greys were made by the fallen ones) that were cast to look like the ugly and the damned.

I want to stop this topic... b ut hopefully i want to start a new issue.
Stellar
QUOTE(Gods_Soldier @ Nov 2 2004, 04:54 PM)
Norman is this a joke?



IMO, I cant believe any of you *arent* telling jokes!
X~File_Agent
Gods_Soldier
QUOTE
I want to stop this topic... but hopefully i want to start a new issue.


Wait a sec, you're still ignoring my questions, and please don't tell me you haven't seen my posts. I came at you with some hard evidence, and you havent' said a peep.

Once you answer those questions, I have another one for you GodsSoldier.

Waiting.... disgust.gif

Edit - Added question

QUOTE
Norman

QUOTE
X file sorry i have never found that code...


Not to be argumentative. I know you and Norman are going at it. But you missed my point, or chose to ignore it. It took me awhile to find the information. For it to be dismissed by one line.

My point is, that if you want to find doomsday words in the bible code, you will find it. My other point is, that your Bible Code FAILED on Y2K. What makes you think it will not fail again on 2012 or any other year?


Gods_Soldier
Sorry lol okay think i already answered them...

I said that GOD CAN STOP,CHANGE AND EVEN SPEED UP TIME.

annnd the MAIN END TIME EVENT speaks of two beast that will rise to rule the world in the bible, and that is true from what i found out in the bible code.....

Sorry about not answering your questions i just was focusing in Norman at that time...
girty1600
Where the heck is Norman, anyway? Shouldn't he be here by now? blink.gif



Nevermind, I don't know how I missed that, sorry grin2.gif
Gods_Soldier
Seriously i didnt know this topic would last this long lol its either you guys/gals are interested or you just doing it becuase your bored.... So let me just some up what i am saying:

Alien races are divided up into many factions. Over perhaps 100 different alien races today. Some of their names are also Annunaki, Draconian (the evil faction, where others are less evil), Nordics, Pleidians, Andromedans etc.. the human looking races tend to be more neutral in the affairs of men, the Draconians are dominating Reptilians who have taken over our government and are the ones seeking to implement a NWO here on earth, a New World "Reptilian" Order.

They will herald the coming of the Messiah i.e. Antichrist with a UFO presence, known as "Project Blue Beam" and stage a fake rapture, mimicking Bible Prophecy as we know it today. He will perform supernatural feats such as calling fire down from heaven (the space station) and will convince manking through trickery, technology, and deceit, that he is the true Messiah.

moe eubleck
Why wouldnt god need a space ship ? God is obviously incapable of as we can see thus far with his NASA project. Humans were a bad investment. This is why he made hell.

Gods_Soldier
...he didnt make hell becuase he made us.
moe eubleck
In this Moe disagress. He made Hell to punishs us for not building him a good space craft. It has been many billions of years and still we would rather spend time arguing about gay marriage.
God is not jazzed by humanity. No
Gods_Soldier
1) Why do you state yourself by your name?
2) Please dont tell me that it is beacuase you think you are better than people because EVERYONE is equal
3) I can argue ALL year and it still wont get me no where!
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