Well...

The second coming is deffinatly not going to be some peaceful preacher with a robe... The second coming will be more like a conqueror with the face, posture, and attitude of one. The second coming will kill many people as opposed to some earlier messiahs. The second coming will be more like Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great except will have more luck and philanthropical and benevolent beliefs of humanity. The second coming will wage an epic war against human corruption and the supposed anti-christ. How the second coming will achieve all of this is a major puzzle. In the time of Jesus or Buddha the spiritual mind was more in charge as opposed to the material mind which is more in charge in these current modern times. In the time of Jesus or Buddha there were not as many mental defectives, drug addicts, and false prophets/messiahs running around, therefore there were not as many materialist psychologists. If the second coming suddenly appeared, mounting a white horse and waving a sword or giving a charismatic speech, the second coming would probably end up in a mental institution right away with complete disregard of the unique appearance of the second coming... They would probably drug up the mind of or in some way destroy the second coming due to their ignorance. Unless the second coming was to perform a miracle to try and give proof, if the second coming is allowed to that is, and even if the second coming did give proof, there would deffinatly be corrupt humans trying to keep the second coming locked up due to worrying about their egos, money, and material possesions which they worship. Now... this probably reminds you of the story of the demise of Jesus but in a more modern perspective. How would the second coming get out of this fate? If caught, would the second coming be rescued by divine intervention? Probably not. So far in history nobody has been rescued in such a way, Not even Jesus. A more likely belief is if the second coming inspired a few followers befrore getting caught and they would end up rescuing the second coming, Or the second coming would not get caught in the first place, and would wander around the earth blending in, laying low, and playing stupid, being helpless and standing by as the world crumbles at the hands of the anti-christ. The anti-christ would not have this trouble because if you have not figured out by now the anti-christ would be the head egoistical materialist and fuel the fire of human corruption, and would probably look like any asshole politician we have today, and according to most scripture will be believed to be the second coming and will perform miracles and wonders to incite that belief. Meanwhile... the real second coming is probably mourning and collecting dust somewhere.
Now your probably wondering how the hell this second coming would wage war...
The second coming would probably want to wage an epic, dramatic, poetic, and "fun" war just like they are in movies of today or in ancient texts. The second coming would exercise the glory of war instead of the more gloomy parts of it. Now we all know the popular belief is that wars are bad and aweful etc... Especially with all the senseless modern wars of today, But this changes when your talking about a once and for all, war to end all wars, good vs evil, uniting the earth and humanity, type of war, where afterwards there is supposed to be a big party and then peace for 1,000 years untill the cycle begins all over... Anyway, back to our man of the hour. How will the second coming wage this war...? Would the second coming try to develop more advanced but less destructive technology then we currently have? Would the second coming rely on luck and destiny and just go back to using melee tactics like in the old days? How would the second coming survive charging against machine gun fire or even survive an atomic or biological attack?! Would the second coming's forces be vast or outnumbered? Would the forces of the anti-christ fight and destroy each other and the second coming would jump in occasionaly with his force to deal a few blows? Would the forces of nature aid? Would dudes from outer space decide to join in and help out the poor guy? All important questions on the subject for you to decide. The second coming will probably be granted or gain immortality or eternal youth, but still be susceptible to injury, so that the second coming may stick around in the aftermath of the war to instruct and teach a completely new universal religion and set up the new government and laws, or simply the second coming will pass away and a descendant will handle all the cleaning up and rebuilding in the aftermath. All this, that is, only if the second coming achieves victory in the first place and the super computer program of the universe, the eyes of truth, the universal justice and overlord, the great spirit, aka "god" does not change its plans, or decides to abort project humanity for good.

Thank you for reading my babble and commentary on the apocalypse and the rest of the different prophecies of the fate of humanity.

I like your thoughts Athenian. I don't know exactly in what forum this war will take but if these aliens are able to render or weapons useless then I'm sure that a supreme being would have no problem with them. I agree that in this second coming that the christ is not coming bringing good tiding but is coming to bring wrath to mankind and all those that wage war on his father. I think the war between good and evil is a war between true love and pure hatred. The love in the bible is like the love you feel for you kids amplified by millions ( which is something hard to comprehend) and hate is a thing that we all feel all to easy sad to say. The book of revelations is very symbolic maybe for a reason that the one seeing them(John) didn't totally understood what it was that he was seeing and gave his best account of what he saw to the best of his ability given the things that he know at the times. ln revelations 9:7 to 11 it sure sounds like he is talking about men in battle gear and helmets and tanks . Just a thought.

that would make one great novel athenian id read it..

hmm..well if that epic does take place i sure hope im there to see it, all that drama and good vs. evil and heroism stuff!! it would be like living in one of those epic novels where you can be all heroic and stuff and then go to heaven cause ya fought along side Jesus Christ.. wow

but somehow i doubt it..ah well

Gods Soldier, I believe in the Bible.
I read the book of enoch, and I am aware the
Greys which the secular media portrays as aliens.
But you've got to understand that devils are not the
only ones posessing these powerful aerial "chariots"!
Its not that hard to understand, especially if you
believe in the bible AND KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.

So norman in what chapter and verus is this passage from the book of enoch? I will go have a look at it and see what it has to saying.

NEW CONCLUSION i descided that i should ONLY believe in what the bible says nothing else i can judge the bible from my findings in the bible code... i realized this when i was reading revelation and noticed the part about how God will add a curse to anyone who changes what the real revelation says... so Norman i suggest you change your ways to!

So, alien abduction. If these "fallen Angels" are really fallowing Lucifer, then why alien abduction?

well it is all possible, maybe its both. Hmmmmmmm

Hi there,

I agree with you, that's exactly what the aliens are. They are the offspring of the fallen angels and their union with human women that started way back in Biblical times before the flood. At one point the aliens had almost completely taken over the earth which is when and why God caused the flood, and the Bible says they will return again and walk the earth just like they did in the days of Noah, and that time is upon us now. That's what the giants were back then but not all of them were giant in stature, they had various forms just like they do today.

There are a number of reasons why this could be. Maybe they are trying to genetically create the perfect human/alien specimen with the best features of both worlds which they will then present to mankind which will be the antichrist, they could be trying to use our DNA to alter their own DNA because they are weak genetically from cloning, they could be trying to create different diseases since all diseases were created by them anyway. There could be a number of reasons.

Babylon is the alien's world and their world system. The Great whore that sits in Babylon in the book of Revelations is the aliens and their hybrid program and Babylon is their world and world system.

In the book of Enoch, Enoch even tells how he went to the 5th heaven and saw the fallen angels' army and followers, and we know the aliens are in outer space somewhere, perhaps Enoch was shown the planet where they live.

It's not in the Bible it was left out for some reason, you need to go to a site that talks about the lost books of the Bible.

LOL! Jesus was not an alien, He was 100% man (human) and 100% God. God in human flesh born on the earth, that's not an alien.

None of God's power has fallen into satan's hands, what are you talking about? God is still all powerful and ruler of all.

The reptilian alien race, draconians was the one that temped Eve and got her to eat from the Tree of Knowlege. That's why the serpent was talking and had legs, feet & arms, then God cursed the ones on earth and made them unable to speak and no arms or legs and they became the common snake we see today, but the race of reptilians in outer space still have their legs & arms and ability to speak.

LOL! You can't use Bible codes to predict the future.

That, really, doesnt make any sense. The aliens were smart enough to reach Earth... but not smart enough to recolonise the planet after the flood while humanity was still only a few people big? Plus... Noah was commanded to take 2 of every animal...



You mean... you *think* its their world system.



And you know this how?

I hear lots of talkin... but I dont see any backing up...

I hate how people come here and sound like they "know the truth" and are trying to "teach" us, as if their beliefs are not just beliefs.

Ditto, stellar

quote=Stellar,Nov 11 2004, 04:14 PM

That, really, doesnt make any sense. The aliens were smart enough to reach Earth... but not smart enough to recolonise the planet after the flood while humanity was still only a few people big? Plus... Noah was commanded to take 2 of every animal...

The point is whether they were smart enough or not, they had to leave the planet when God ran them off the earth with the flood. They probably could have recolonized but they had to obey God.



quote=The reptilian alien race, draconians was the one that temped Eve and got her to eat from the Tree of Knowlege. That's why the serpent was talking and had legs, feet & arms, then God cursed the ones on earth and made them unable to speak and no arms or legs and they became the common snake we see today, but the race of reptilians in outer space still have their legs & arms and ability to speak.


And you know this how?

I hear lots of talkin... but I dont see any backing up...

Okay in Genesis it was the serpent that tempted Eve. The serpaent had legs, feet, arms and walked upright, it also had the ability to talk. The serpent is a reptile. Now doesn't that sound just like the draconians? God then cursed the breed on earth, but the breed or race that's in outer space still have legs and arms and can talk.

When God cursed the snake He then told the serpent:

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." Genesis 3:15

God was talking to lucifer, the draconian, the reptilian alien creature AKA the devil.

I'm just telling you what I believe, of course people will understand these are my beliefs.

how about facts and proof instead of story's. looks to me that some christians want to make religion acknowledge itself because it became obsolete when aliens stepped into our lifes and the creation theory was proven to be bogus.

LOL! Sounds to me like some unbeliever who's sulking and trying to cry foul because the fact that aliens exist actually fits in perfectly with and proves the whole Bible as true. The fact that aliens exist fits in more perfectly with the Bible than any other theory you can ever hope to dream up as the explination for their existence. It is more than a coincidence how the reptilian aliens are of the serpent race and are the meanest of the aliens and how the Bible describes a serpent as the devil and as the one who tempted EVE.

I myself believe in "GOD" and there maybe gods but I think that there is onoy one GOD. I also believe that there is mention of aliens in the bible but the reptile/surpent spoke about in genesis is not a alein but a physical manifestation of the devil. Even in your on post Chanelle it says "he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." now that dont sound like an alien to me but more like a snake. With that being said that dont mean that I dont think that there are not Reptilian aleins just that they are not being talked about in that passage. I myself have seen something a couple time that I know was not an airplane, helicopter,star ect. and neither time did it seem to be a godly experience in anyway.

how do you fanatics know about the reptilians and greys. did you see them? did you talk to them? any proof at all? i can also make up story's that 'match'the bible or any other book. and in the hindu books there are alot of accoounts of aliens. why are those not true and the bible is. you get your info from www.stargods.org do you omg there is a movie that exactly matches the bible it must be true then

Following the previous anomalies of cloud-like chariots
in the Bible, your statment is incorrect.
Ps 68:34
Ascribe strength to God; his excellence is over Israel, and His strength is in the clouds.

If I am correct that the cloud-like chariots of God are
UFOs, then you're wrong.

it always seemed to me that people who belive in god stongly, get abdutced more often

Is this your opinion?

Isn't it funny how most of the abductions and sighting of UFO's seem to happen in the same area?
And has anybody stopped to think that even if they were aliens, how exactly do they know about our religions and understand our language?

it is because the aliens are fallen angels

How about you grow up ya fricken child? You sound like a damn "know it all" fanatic who actually doesnt know a thing. You people arent even talking about meerly the existance of aliens... (That doesnt prove the bible in any way)... You're talking a specific case which links to the existance of aliens, and then twisting it around (All the while acting as if its a fact that everything you say is true) and making them *fit* alongside *YOUR* interpretation of the bible. Then you still go on, for I dont know what reason or why, to say that this hypthetical conversation proves *your* interpretation of the bible, even though you have no substance to back you up. You're not only saying non believers are wrong, you're saying that your interpretation of the bible is the only right one! All this and no evidence supporting it... man I should have expected someone to preach the infallicy of their interpretation of the bible... It happens quite often... Oh but when, I dont know, actual science shows that the litteral interpretation of the bible (and the 6000 year old earth) is wrong... oh no... they dont listen, they say science is wrong

Indeed this is a good question. And Moe has the answer. No need to thank us. Yes. Moes has been abucted by both greays and reptilians. They are both equally evil in thier own ways.
The problem with greys is that they tend to over probe. This encourages much chaffing indeed.
The problem with retilions is that they dont seem to understand that humans need to chew thier food before swallowing. Always serving Moe whole mice during meal times. Fur is not wholesome. Not wholesome indeed. When Moe shows up at therapy with fur stuck between his teeth, he has much explaining to do.

you fanatics are using the bible code. the book moby dick predicted alot more then the bible. see the link

the bible code used on moby dick


why are christians the only ones to go to heaven? the quran and the bible are similar.

Indeed. Moe sees the connection now. Greys are evolved whales from the future.

Moby Dick symbolizes the age old tension between man and whale. This is wisdom and we thank you Hotoke.

It sounds like we believe pretty much the same thing. The serpent was a physical manifestation of the devil and so are aliens. Aliens are physical manifestation of the devil & his kingdom and the serpent was more than just a regular serpent because he was talking. And he had legs, arms & feet before God cursed him, that sounds more like a reptilian creature. Whenever the passages talk about the devil they are talking about aliens. Aliens are a physical manifestation of the devil's kingdom.

Why don't you grow up first? You're the one who sounds like a "freaken" dumb sinner who thinks he knows it all just because he thinks he knows a little about science. I bet I know more about science than you do. And for your information, I'm not against science, I happen to like science and I don't believe in the young earth theory either. Don't try to label me as a fanatic or fundamentalists when you don't know anything about what I believe.

Excuse me? How do you sinners know about reptilians and greys? I don't get my information from that site, I get my information from my own study of science and the Bible as well as the UFO phenominon, and other sources and I am well aware of what a lot of other religions say about UFOs.






That's a lie thrown in by the professional debunkers.



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"Professional Debunkers". Huh.

This thread has been amusing and entertaining to read, keep it up

Because I'm very much grown up and down to earth. Im not the one saying my interpretation is fullproof and calling others sinners cuz they dont believe me.



Ooh, nice comeback

Maybe if you werent a noob to the forum wouldnt claim I'm a dumb sinner who knows little about science.



I bet you dont.



Oh no? Im sorry, but arent you the one saying we're supposed to believe in Genesis?

Oh and BTW, with me "limited" scientific knowledge () I can already see that you have nothing to back up your interpretation and your claims. Its being awfully unscientific of you to claim it as anything other than your interpretation and your belief...

so many claims and big talk but no proof at all just big talk. I can't take you serious if you can't separate facts and fiction. did you know that none of the stuff in the bible happened? did you know that the bible is based on ancient sumerian tablets? do you know what that means? One thing if god created homo sapiens who created homo erectus the cro magnon and the neatherthalers? and instead of namecallling how about some proof. all i hear is bull****.

Name calling (that includes sarcastic questioning, insinuating) and argueing, will stop here.

Religion? I am christian, and I do not get my information from
religion. I get my information from the Bible while religion rejects
this holy text. Why do other christians consider me a nut, when
they're the ones not studying their Bibles? Let me just say this
to all the "saints": If you look for the answers in the Bible, you
will come to the same conclusions as I have. There is no other
fantasy involved. Just the facts according to the Bible.
Jesus does ride a UFO, and its not such a hardcore theory as
some may think; its the most simplest explaination to UFOs.
That the divine beings of the Bible operate UFOs (whether it be
good or evil, the Bible is full of UFO encounters) And I dare
you to proove me wrong.

It would seem that everyone has there own conclusion . Maybe there is some truth in each, in which we can all learn from each other .

for those who want to know more about the reptilians visit these sites:

reptilian agenda

the experts

more info will follow. i think it is all a bunch of

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Religion? I am christian, and I do not get my information from
religion. I get my information from the Bible while religion rejects
this holy text. Why do other christians consider me a nut, when
they're the ones not studying their Bibles? Let me just say this
to all the "saints": If you look for the answers in the Bible, you
will come to the same conclusions as I have. There is no other
fantasy involved. Just the facts according to the Bible.
Jesus does ride a UFO, and its not such a hardcore theory as
some may think; its the most simplest explaination to UFOs.
That the divine beings of the Bible operate UFOs (whether it be
good or evil, the Bible is full of UFO encounters) And I dare
you to proove me wrong.
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[/quote]Hey Norm can you please post for me a passage where it will show me where "Jesus does ride a UFO" I would like to read that in my bible. I am not trying to mock you but I would really like to see thing from your prospective, Thanks.

let me ask you a question don't you think it would be kinda selfish for god to but us as the only ones to be in the endless universe

Now see god never said that we where all that he created in the universe

God protects all his believers and all you have to do is call upon him and you will be protected so for the fallen angles i don't think so myself fallen angles are called demons and are in hell aliens may be the fallen race of what we maybe be


that is a good point but what if to learn is useless and is not meant to be

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Great way to put it i totaly agree but alot f the predictions in the bible did come true, but then agian this isnt so special seeing that some psychics make right predections that have a chance of a billion to 1 of being just a lucky guess.

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They did't predict anything. Their calendar just ends on 2012.
They'll need to update. Anyway, ninj, I've been posting verses
all over, you can't tell me that you have't read any of what I
wrote in the past. Search for "Chariots of Da Gods?" on the
forum if you want to know more. Thats all I can say.

The fact is you either beleave in the bible or not. If you call yourself a christian then you have to beleave in the whole thing not just bits you like and throw away the rest because science proves its wrong. Then if the bible's wrong about the earths age then it could be very wrong about everything else and seeing since this "almighty god" created the earth it seems pretty stupied that "he" doesnt even know the age of the earth since all christians say that the bible is the "word of god".


eh im pobly wrong but most of the things ive read said thats when hey thought it was going to end but doesnt really matter

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Yes but that only applies to people who take the bible literally.

Um. Is't it bad omen to mix religion with alien?
might confuse God with alien you know, Coyote over and out.