I just find it weird that people can claim that they've been "told by god" in a dream or that a dream was a "sign from god" because, really, a dream is a dream, if you dream that god told you that its a vision, it doesnt make it a vision IMO, just another dream.

I agree it very well might just be that a dream I don't know but its just odd and strange to me and if you disect some of your dreams than you might find some answers. As far as God telling me these things not of that just that I have had these visions/dreams after praying whey then?? I don't take them 100% serious but I will leave them open for debate as to wether or not they mean something or not. It was more like this, I pray usually for the world peace etc. I give thanks then I close my eyes and see if anything comes to me. sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't always careful to make sure its not the anti-christ showing me these things I haven't had a strange vision in a while. But have had some on natural disaters etc. Well if its just a dream then I wrong. If something come of any of the things I envisioned then I guess that a higher being God was speaking to me. When I pray I am either speaking to God or my Father Jesus the ones that mean the most to me. I would rather on my last dying breath know that I know my father
and God than to have not. Cause if there is a hell ( I believe there is ) and that there is a heaven than I would rather be on Gods side. So I do listen and pray on things and hope that I do get messages or visions no matter how bizzare them may seem to some at least to me I feel I am thinking and using my heart , mind and soul. Again I will repeat that not everything I envisison is gonna be something to say about the end times or about the world and all its falling in a downward spiral. Some of the visions could be just a thought a feeling who knows.

Im not quite sure what you're asking there, but its very possible to influence what you'll dream about by thinking about it and such. I've done it before, as have others, and Sony or some other japanese company are creating a device that would help do this as well with a certain methode.



Not necessairly. Analysing the current world would lead you to question the future, question it about certain aspects that you deem possible. I bet you pray to god to show you if it will happen or not. Then (because your mind is thinking about this) it dreams of some big disaster. THen, eventually, out of coincidence, it happense. It doesnt really need any "god" factor at all. If you end up dreaming something extreemly specific and it happens, and also for all your other vision/dreams, then we'll have something to talk about...



Interesting. What if Allah is the God though?

Is it me or am i the only Chrisitan here?

Dude "God" is Allah that is the translation from Arabic to English , we just call him by Allah and other 99 names he has.

I belive I'm a dragon or space lizard in human form, cast out of the heavens to live the life of human and probably here to learn something, I hope I can regain my soul's true form and return home someday

I'm a christian and belive in god, and also think that I was one of the original cast out's of heaven sent to live umong humans until the time I cast off the ways of old and agree that god is the almighty and us dragons of old have no power in this life until we join god in the fight against evil

I meant in a "You're religion is wrong, the other one is right" kind of way. Fine, next time I'll say ancient egyptian religion, ok?

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I've even had dreams of being other than human, an anthromorphic dragon, kinda like a human only with hairless colored skin, about 10 feet tall and horns, claws, a tail and perhaps even wings. being human just burns me up, like it just physically and mentally feels wrong, and I also feel distressed and hope someday I can have my true form back and fight for god if I have to, whatever it takes to go home or at least be "me" again

maverickdragon I've had dreams like the kind you describe.

I've come to see differences in between my dreams and the ones that seem unbelievably realistic are the kind that are so out of this world that it's frightening.

I've had dreams like this since I've been in the fifth grade and I used to think I was crazy but now I accept them as memories that manage to find their way back into my new mind from my "eternal soul".

I don't care how many people think I'm crazy but I'll tell you this:

I have seen things that are so hard to describe to people... it seems impossible. I dreamt of seeing different color wavelengths with a different set of eyes. Something unearthly. Kind of like a dog dreaming he saw color, waking to find himself incapable of even comprehending color. Because when you dream you are seeing with your mind, not with your eyes.

I've also dreamt that I lived on the second layer of a planet, not on the surface of one. It was entirely hollow inside, and the third layer came right before a core. I also dreamt that I was of a race born from eggs that were plants. We also ate like hummingbirds, but instead of tiny beaks we used our tongues, which had a hole through them starting at the tip and ending towards the back of the throat. Like a straw. Isn't that weird?

I've had plenty of dreams like that and have always felt that being human was disgusting for some reason. I, too, dream of going home to where I belong. I guess that is my version of what aliens are, also.

I'll not lie to you: I believe I've had a past life and, no, I was not human, nor was I any part of this area in the universe. Call me crazy. But that's what I believe.

Here's a drawing of what I described... I haven't really finished it.

I couldn't get the scanner to work so here's a picture.

that picture looks cool, my hope is that all of our misplaced souls can one day be free to go home and we can be who we were created to be, whatever dimension we may hail from

Hee hee. Man everyone thinks we're crazy now. I've avoided saying that for a long time on this forum.

But to me it only makes perfect sense. If I believe that there are many worlds and all kinds of life, maybe even multiple universes, plus the fact that everything moves in a circle, why would be reborn over and over and over again in the same world? What're the odds of that heh heh.

Of course I also think the truth for one person is completely different from the truth of another. What you believe is what is real to you and that's all there is to it.

here-here

Please dont tell me your draco's or dracionions becuase that satan's orginal form........ i suggest (if u want ) to Turn and Know God is your only protector.

Gods Soldier, you seem to know a lot.
or maybe you said that on an axcident?
Did you read the book called: "Encounters of the 5th kind"?
It is about aliens and their possible connection to
evil spirits, fallen angels and demons etc...

My motto is: Test the spirits

even if I do get abducted, I cannnot assume that all aliens are bad,
I have to use my alien-good-or-bad senses!

i have never bothered myself to read any alien books, anyway i found out that Pope herald is the second beast in the bible form the bible code anyway i know this from the bible and the bible code thats the only book i need

OMG what your decribing is planet X or more known in the bible as plane Rahab this is were Satan and his dominoins sit..

You're right Fluffy, he would get along with blazer.

Are you saying that I was connected to what you see as the evilest thing in your religion in my past life? Cause you can keep telling yourself that and it won't be true. I am in no way a part of that religion.

Anyways, is the planet you think I described entirely composed of crystals and ice? There are a lot of columns (stalagtites and stalagmites coming together) throughout the entire area. There are also a lot of waterfalls... some different kind of water than here on earth. I think it may be close to what we see as mercury here. Like mercury, I didn't say it was. Of course these are all based on a lot of weird dreams... I've just tried figuring them out.

The only way a person can believe me is if the believe in both otherworldly life and reincarnation. If you don't believe in that then I'm full of crap in your sight so. Don't even worry about it.

I'am just saying that one of your ancestor's MUST have been and fallen angel from the time of Noah. Nothing else

Anyway back to more news the first beast MUST be an American President.

So the Second Beast is Pope Herald

That's still part of a religion. Besides, if my ancestor were to be a fallen angel from that time he/she probably ditched god cause he was about to destroy the entire human race. Any relative of mine does not follow in the footsteps of that kind of devilishness.

I was wrong about the code of 2006 apparently its 2009

Codes found on mark of the beast is :


Implement - 2009 - beginning - decline - refuse - is - death - chip - evil - variational - wickedness - forehead - right - hand - required - implanted - planted - burning - combustible - inflammable - boil - boiled

Just found more codes on the chip:

Emerging - Event - Army - Soldiers - Ten - Million - Chip - Implanted - Guard - Cistern (vats to burn bodies of those taken to camps during martial law or whenever they implement their plans to destroy America) - Babylon

999.......... use it ! seek the truth!!!

? you make no sense...

I have code.......1-2, 1-2system,...... try it it really works!!!......

i still dont get you...it aint funny...

Who said it was funny??? Try it , it really works........!!!

quote me anything from the Beano, !Ooops I mean the bible! and I'll trash anything you have to offer to me as so called evidence of a Alien/angels connection!!!

dunderhead, I hope you arent intentionally trying to start a flame, knowing that this can be a very offensive topic (bashing others beliefs).

If i see it again you'll get a formal warning.
As for 'trashing' anything, considering the tone of your post, you had better be able to do so very cautiously.

I do hate flaming.

ok, here goes, god is all, but haven't you thought that perhaps he's made other races of being? in the book of genesis it said cast out man from the garden lest he become like US and eat from the tree of life. perhaps Draconian is a better example of what I believe I am, besides, the original serpent in the bible only told woman that the fruit will not surly kill them but it would make them like gods, knowing good from evil, he didn't say, hey, woman, eat this, some good sh***, right? in that context I believe that the serpent who was thrown to earth and the rest of his kin now in human form and other reptilian forms should have their status on earth reconsidered by god so that he allow us to retake our origional forms once again

and I could be the Dragon, or one of many

The concept of God is getting weirder and weirder everyday.

When it comes to religion it seems most are a part at different view points and thoughts and will never see eye to eye. Its the one subject topice that gets people all heated up to debate with an resolution or a answer to satisfy everyone. I do think that some aliens as I had stated before are fallen angles maybe not all but some. This is just " my " feelings. People are more concerned about what they are than the fact that they may very well be a real thing. Ready are we to accept they are real { and I think they are. } than care about what they just might be and how they got here. I don't know but this I do whenever on put God or the bible inot the subject matter there are to many ready to dis or to many closed minded people that are skeptical. Mnay are willing to except ghost weird and strange animals, unknown flying objects and aliens, all things paranormal but not God and the bible. I wonder why? And why so many closed minded skeptical people on a paranormal sight? just a thought here.

Cristal moon, I'll answer your question in the shortest possible way. Why dont you believe the Koran, or any other holy book than the bible?

Can't say I don't believe in it because I haven't read it. I'm just starting a journey into completeing the bible which I want to finish first. I'm open- minded enough to accept others thoughts but it goes both ways. The bible is not the only book to take serious. It is the one that I find most interesting and my heart and gut feelings lead me to this I was never raised as a church-going person I went if I wanted to. It was an experience years and years later in life that lead me to be a born again christian and have this strong faith. It may not be for everyone I understand that but its for me and some others. Just curious why do you not believe in the bible or why do you question others that are bible reading God loving people. I was just wondering ? Are you just skeptical on all things unseen with the naked eye or what??

End of time explanation :

- Prince Harry shall die
- Prince Harry come back proclaiming he is God with a bunch of UfO to fool America
- Pope Herald shall be the false phrophet and tell the people of the world that he is indeed God
- They both shall perform miracles that will decieve many (the bible says all those living in earth)
- 2009 the chip shall be inforced via the American President...
- Pope Herald shall agree to the chip and make christians were it...
- America is signed by the Noahide laws which allows to behead any christians when inforced (sorry about tell you it was the jehova , that was wrong )
- Aliens shall inforce the mark of the beast
- Anyone who dosen't worship the beast will be killed
- The will be 2 armies of 144 000 who will praise the real GOD
- The forces of evil WILL have a 3 and a half year riegn
- Then the REAL MOST HIGH GOD WILL COME BACK and defeat the forces of evil.

that was one of the most entertaining "prophecys" i've ever heard. i must send this to leno, so the world may laugh too...

.........

I'm wondering how you came to the conclusion that a drug taking, binge drinking, exam cheating prince would arise from the grave and perform miracles with the help of UFOs? And who the hell is pope herald? The current one hasn't even died yet, or annouced a sucessor....

Ok, I'll make the question a bit different. Why dont you believe the ancient egyptian religion? Its radically different from christianity... Or why dont you believe a book that says that the Biblical god is fake or evil?

Me? I just find the bible to be a fairy tale, along with other religions. It defying science doesnt help the case neither.

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The micro chip you are reffering to, has been introduced by the government as a identification chip. It will do away with passports and cash cards, it is to be believed that everything done then, that is done now, will need only the scanning of the hand, which has the chip inserted. It is to be believed that it will enable better security for the persons identity. There would be no forged passports and it will do away with fraud of the cash machine and credit card fraud. Everythihg about that person, their history, their medical records, their bank balance, everything, will be stored in the data of this microchip. It will take a simple scanning of the hand..........there would be no need for time consuming ID checks, all a persons personal information will be in this chip. It has been argued it is the work of satan himself, that the anti-christ will rise in power......politician, and the mark of the beast will be found in the palm of the hand. Therefore, he will have the sole power of everyone at his command, he will give his mark to the people. But thats polotics..........and polotics comes with corruption. There is also talk of the 'said' microchip bieng inserted intot he eye............not pleasent, but neverthe-less a working idea. And indeed satan promised all the kingdoms and glory to see christ fall........just like the chip promises to do so.............it will make life so much easier........but technology moves forward and so does everything else. I do not believe Aliens are the fallen angles of gods power, man has only written about the history of mankind from 10,000 years ago, before that man did exist, but who was there to write it and detail its works for our time............no-one knows, speculation abound. Adam and eve, did not just appear from nowhere, god did not make these two people.............there is an alien theory amongst all of this, and indepth..............a plausible one too. Jesus was not born in the stable in, where the three wise men followed the star on a camel, bearing down gifts, he was born in a place called Quanrum, in a bare room called the 'manger' a room for illigetimate children. It was run by nun's. Mary was part of the Vestal virgin order, and there were two wedding ceromonies to take place when she married joseph. They wed and the rule was they seperated and went back to their schooling of god for 3 years, after which they took part in another ceromony and they could live together as man and wife and could bare children. \mary and joseph, after the first ceromony, had sex, they were found out and within their order it was deemed illegal, she was still classsed as unmarried as the second part of the ceromony had not taken place. So by the rights of the order, she was still classed as a Vestal Virgin. But who am i to proclaim what is right and wrong? If we are thinking along the lines of aliens and christ, the chariots of the gods, puts a good theory to practice. ARE NOT ANGELS they are fallen angels who work with satan. People come incontact with them have a chip inserted in them the so called 666 micro chip which is in the bibe "the mark of the beast". You will know of this chip Worldwide by 2006

Correct SeptemeberSun. As far as what the chip is all about. Why all of a sudden are people so ready to accept the chip.What is so wonderful or exciting and glorious about being chipped so we can pretend to be some robotic humanoid and be scanned like a character in a star trek or a farscape series. Come on this is ridiculious and stupid. There is no good reason to be chipped. If aliens are not fallen angels to most, what are they then and why are so many people having experiences with them. Why is there a book " the bible" out there that explains and describes so many of the things that have come to pass or that are a reality. Example the passage in revelations about the chip - where no man can buy or sell or trade least he has the mark of the beast. If we do away with cash credit cards etc. the mark will be one that if your not marked make you the one unable to buy sell or trade. Now the thing is you have to believe in the bible and the word to accept some of this and other things that are mentioned in the bible. What we can't prove is who actually wrote it because we weren't around when it was being written down. The thing about the chip, going back to that, is that they the markers of the chip and the gov'. will argue that it is better than cash cause you wont loose your money or get robbed. They will argue this with the credit card as well all to make it seem so nice to have. Bull, not so. Most and almost everything having to do with the bible chrisitianity is so darn hard for many to accept as the truth. Why? Could this not be an acceptable belief. Let me ask this if the non-believers are right correct ( I don't believe so ) how was man created the very first man better than that how was the universe created. If you blieve in the evolution theory, how was that created . Someone or something I believe God created all things. Someone or something had to create or bring it all about. You have to start somewhere.......? I know its a rambling post but couldn't help myself wanted to get some of this out there. whats everyone take on some of this. Can you explain the very first day before anything was here/created??

I believe in the Most High G-d; as a Judeau-Christian, and being descended from Cleopas.(Luke 24 KJV NT) The surname is aramic.

I have no right to judge my fellow beings here on Earth, or those who reside in the Heavens. He created the seen and the unseen and they all worship Him.

My experiences don't reflect on my faith in Him. He has been with me; even in my lowest moments.

My experiences have only testified to His being.

The Scriptures and the Torah say it all belongs to Him.

It is no more my place to judge my fellow man/womankind; let alone, an offworld race (for lack of a better description).

Besides the Human race has enough to deal with by learning to get along with one another; before contemplating the announcement of 'First Contact' by the government.

We are too busy destroying our own world and each other. It really makes me question humanity. How can we sit in judgement of a race-we know little or nothing about when we are shedding the blood of our own race and our own planet.

What we are doing to ourselves, each other and this planet is disgraceful. We don't consider the consequences.

Do you not think that maybe with the transmissions that have been sent out into space from this world-don't forget the invite that was sent in the '70's that maybe somebody else was listening?

How can we stand in judgement of the very beings that were invited? What do you invite somebody to dinner; only to tell them that they are evil and to go away without first learning about who you invited to your table?

There are many points to consider?

The Scriptures, Torah, and the Qu'ran speak of many things and the one thing that they agree on is He is the Divine Creator and His is not to judge. We are not to stand in judgement of His power.

If anything, it adds to my many praises to Him.

Think of me what you will-call me a sinner for my experiences.

All I know is that I am grateful for having witnessed His power in knowing that He didn't abandon the human race in the universe; and created neighbours on Earth and above for us to love.

I just find it a bit upsetting, when I think of how many other experiencers are only now coming to terms with what has happened to them and trying to assess it in their own minds without having somebody brand them as evil.

We only use a small percentage of our brain power. The rest has gone to sleep like our appendix. Until we look outside the box (I know it's hard), we won't begin to understand. Our fears will keep us inside the box; and the day will come when we find the box closing in on us. At least by getting out of the box-we can breathe.

Actually, we dont only use a small percentage of our brain, we use all of our brain. The 10% myth is just a myth.



Whats exciting is that its a step closer to using microchips to enhance and help humans. It's a step closer to giving parilysed people movement, its a step closer to better health, its a step closer to less crime, and its a step closer to integrading electronics with biology to enhance human power. People no longer use paper money as often as before. Why? because cards are more efficient.



Theres plenty of good reason, tell me if you want a list.

However, tell which good reasons there is for *not* getting chipped. Please, something realistic, and not "cuz the bible says its bad."



They may just be beings from another world, just like we are to them. They dont have to have any relationship to the bible or god.



Thats a whole new matter. Its up to interpretation. People keep *interpreting* it to mean something we live through. Just as fluffy pointed out in another thread, the same argument has been used against many things, from phone numbers, to ssn numbers, to credit cards, to chips.



Like I said above.



Same can be said for credit cards, ssn numbers, and hell, even phone numbers. I dont see people complaining that *those* are the mark of the beast now though, because they've lived through it. The whole chip thing, IMO, is just a baseless fear of change.



And they've got a point, dont they?



No, most and everything are interpreted by the christians to have something to do witch christianity, because they already accept and *expect* something to happen in a way that can be interpreted to link back to the bible. I could argue that DNA is the mark of the beast. Would you take me seriously though?



Instead of telling you the scientific way, I'll overlook that and jump right to the point of what your saying, and what you'd say if I told you about the bigbang and abiogenesis and such... To answer it, I'll ask a question...

What created God?



Yes, and maybe the bigbang is that somewhere... or actually sometime.

Do you have stock in the chip.
You have already given a list in your replies.
true, they might be beings from another place/planet I agree and believe so still fallen angels to me.
Yes I agree not everyone is going to get the same message but there are many who come up with the same view/belief.
The telelphone number is not a mark of the beast.
Why fix something that isn't broken.
A criminal will find a way to rob you even if your chipped perhaps the big criminal will even try to remove the embedded chip. Ouch!
Why would the creation and make-up of man be the mark of the beast?
Not that you said that you said aI could argue that the dna is the mark of the beast which to me would make no sense at all.
Now that has is the million dollar question and one that has left me pondering and thinking for years and years. Who made God I wish someone could answer that.

What do you mean? Eventually, I suppose we'd have everything in the chip, but right now, the chip recently approved is only something that transmits an ID number which can be scanned to open up your medical file on a computer.



You say that now, but in the past, people were claiming it was the mark of the beast. My whole point was that the argument has been used for many things in the past, things which now you wouldnt call "marks of the beast"



What are you refering to?



Well then I guess we should fire the police officers, because criminals will ffind a way to rob us even with police around, huh?

The criminal would not gain much by removing the embedded chip, really. There'd be no use at the present moment, and later on, there'll be no use neither.



Because it can be used to identify the person, and such and such.



It wouldnt make sense to me neither, because I dont believe it. I was simply pointing out something. It doesnt make much sense to you, just as the chip being the mark of the beast doesnt make much sense to me.

The chip is placed in animals/pets in case of getting lost a tracking device, there is a family in florida who got chipped but they wanted it why, I don't know.

Okay you may have me on that one, however I never heard that expression or thought that the telly # was the mark of the beast.

I was saying that we did not have the chip in the past and I don't see the need now, no one was in such a great need for it until the gov'. and makers make it out to be such a wonderful thing to have.

Thats why we have the police. They want to ban guns crimainal will find a way to get guns. I would rather have the police around than a chip embedded.

I was meaning here that say for example a very rich person multi-millionaire or billionaire night have his kids or wife or himself chipped as a tracking device in case of a kidknapping. The criminal or kidknapper might want to remove the arm/hand etc. where the chip is located so you can't find the person you ae holding as hostage for ransome. Could be a political person or reason this is done as well.

We are all suppose to be different no to man is alike, doesn't mean we are in need of being chipped.

You got me there its something that some people will not see as the mark of the beast your right I agree here. I just feel it is the mark of the beast.

No one was in such great need for a phone back in the past neither, by your standards, I guess.



Why not have both?



It wouldnt work out, because he'd have to do the same to his own arm in order to get away with it



And that doesnt mean that theres no benefit in it. Face it, this new chip is just the beginning. Its not something very benifitial, but it is a bit. The next generations of chips will be more benefitial, and the ones after that, even more.