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molo
Since the first atomic bomb, sightings of UFO's have increased because there is a huge intergalactic federation of many beings from different worlds who have achieved perfect unity and a type of higher understanding that they don't have to fight anymore. Earth is another planet on the waiting list to join this galactic federation until it learns to not fight each other anymore but with the A bombs the observations have increased on us; the moon is just a huge base of these UFO's for monitoring us, is that correct?
Draco5832000
It is an interesting theory.
Mishari
hmm maybe so, maybe they are spying on us but because we aren't that advanced enough to notice them. who knows.
Mentalcase
Where exactly did you "gather" this from?
Canadian Rottweiler
Good theory. thumbsup.gif
Kryso
Been watching too much Star Trek?
Fluffybunny
...To boldly go where no man has gone before...

*Cue Star Trek Theme*

Yes, sounds great, I saw that movie too.
Diebytheflyguy
Hmmmm. This theory of yours sounds exactly like the plot outline for the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still." Aliens come to earth. Say they are apart of an intergalatic organization which governs peace in the universe. The human race on earth is violent, but are under the watchful eye of the aliens. Humans are close to achieving universal peace, where no wars will be fought and violence will end. Earth has a decision to make, to either be a peaceful nation, or, because of their violence, they will be destroyed.
ECC
They are spying on us, there was already a first landing many many years ago.
Diebytheflyguy
Yes, they first landed in 1951...

Heres a picture of it...

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Thanato
Good theroy but if i may take it and "bend" it a little.

Earth develops A-Bomb, meaning we have harnised the power of the Atom. This attracts the attention of an alien species and they begin to observe us because the harnising of the Atom only happens at a certine level of Technology.

~Thanato
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(molo @ Oct 16 2004, 09:10 PM)
Since the first atomic bomb, sightings of UFO's have increased...
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Why do you say ufo sightings have increased? Did you read this somewhere or is this just a guess? There have probably been more fake/doctored UFO photos.

Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(Thanato @ Oct 17 2004, 05:17 PM)
Good theroy but if i may take it and "bend" it a little.

Earth develops A-Bomb, meaning we have harnised the power of the Atom. This attracts the attention of an alien species and they begin to observe us because the harnising of the Atom only happens at a certine level of Technology.

~Thanato
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What about the large amount of sightings before the A- Bomb? What attracted them to earth then?
molo
There has always been UFO's since the beginning of recorded knowledge. Alexander the Great's siege of Tyre reported in the scrolls that a spherical shining object decended over the city zapping its main gates. As previously stated, UFO activity has simply increased because we've finally harnessed the power of mass destruction and a step closer to self destruction which is obviously alarming to the federation. Who knows maybe they have a list of "uncivilized" planets and places checks near those who gains the power of mass destruction to which they'll give special attention.

i gathered this from the many books written by those who claim to be abducted , nearly all conveyed the same similar message of a higher organization. The moon base came from this own sites article on the moon how it vibrated like metal when hit by a failed rocket booster, among other lunar anomalies on this very page of the forum.

the master theologian
do you have any clue what the galactic federation is?
No. Another question: do you have any clue of what you're
talking about?
seeking
whats with all the people swearing we're going to all kill ourselves, i hate that, we're not going to all kill ourselves, and i highly doubt we are having more aliens watch over us because of our more advanced weapons of mass destruction
maverickdragon
I for one believe in other races out there and perhaps some have developed space travel and maybe some have planted seed of their species DNA into some humans who have been abducted wether or not they know it and these select humans will aide their abductors in the future, and perhaps the very human form we all have can be genetically modified to take the form of these other races.
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(maverickdragon @ Oct 17 2004, 08:04 PM)
I for one believe in other races out there and perhaps some have developed space travel and maybe some have planted seed of their species DNA into some humans who have been abducted wether or not they know it and these select humans will aide their abductors in the future, and perhaps the very human form we all have can be genetically modified to take the form of these other races.
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And what do you suggest happens after the seed is planted in humans who have been abducted? Why would alien races genetically alter us? Can't they produce their own species without using humans?
dunderhead
"We come in peace!" huh.gif But while we're waiting for you Humans to join our unique "members only" Intergalactic peace treaty, we're just gonna pop down and abduct a few more of you...??? huh.gif
molo
QUOTE(Norman @ Oct 18 2004, 12:17 AM)
do you have any clue what the galactic federation is?
No. Another question: do you have any clue of what you're
talking about?
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did you even read what i said? No. I'm not sure about anything just that the majority of what i read is like that.
Stellar
QUOTE(Norman @ Oct 18 2004, 12:17 AM)
do you have any clue what the galactic federation is?
No. Another question: do you have any clue of what you're
talking about?
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Maybe he's talking about HIS interpretation of it, and not yours?
Andy_R
I do not believe aliens (if they exist) have visited earth.
Consider this:
The nearest star system is over 4 light years away. Many systems are billions of light years away.
If aliens were to travel all the way to earth, they would require some serious technology. At those distances, not even light speed is a practical form of intergalactic travel.
(Stay with me, here)

We're talking about a civilization so advanced it's almost beyond comprehension.
Such a society would be quite old compared to us.
This society would have seen its industrial revolution several thousand years ago at least.
To call such a race "advanced" would be a colossal understatement.

So, here's my point.
Why would such a cutting edge civilization use thousands of years of research ... develop the ultimate inter-stellar space ship ... travel all the way to earth ...
just to abduct some random people, give anal probes, and make some crop circles?
Not going to happen.
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(Andy_R @ Oct 18 2004, 05:36 PM)
I do not believe aliens (if they exist) have visited earth.
Consider this:
The nearest star system is over 4 light years away.  Many systems are billions of light years away. 
If aliens were to travel all the way to earth, they would require some serious technology.  At those distances, not even light speed is a practical form of intergalactic travel. 
(Stay with me, here)

We're talking about a civilization so advanced it's almost beyond comprehension. 
Such a society would be quite old compared to us. 
This society would have seen its industrial revolution several thousand years ago at least. 
To call such a race "advanced" would be a colossal understatement.

So, here's my point.
Why would such a cutting edge civilization use thousands of years of research ... develop the ultimate inter-stellar space ship ... travel all the way to earth ...
just to abduct some random people, give anal probes, and make some crop circles?
Not going to happen.
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The question is why not? Why did we land on the moon? Why do we have the hubble space telescope? Why are we sending probes to Mars?
Andy_R
QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Oct 18 2004, 02:49 PM)
The question is why not? Why did we land on the moon? Why do we have the hubble space telescope? Why are we sending probes to Mars?
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My point is that such an intelligent society would find a better use for their resources than attempts to scare and confuse us.

I don't think people fully understand just how advanced and hi-tech these aliens would have to be to travel this far.
They wouldn't need to abduct humans to study them, because such a hi-tech people would already know everything about us just by observation (i.e. intercepting radio waves, satellite communication etc.).

I am not saying aliens don't exist. I happen to think there is a fair possibility of their existence.
I'm just saying they're not visiting us.

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PolkaTulk
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My point is that such an intelligent society would find a better use for their resources than attempts to scare and confuse us.

well, if these aliens are as advanced as you claim they are (beyond comprehension), then they most likey have figured out how to generate surplus in every field. In other words, they have technology and supplies to spare, so they send their rejected outlaw aliens out with some space ships to do some tests that might be deemed handy.
the master theologian
I would like to know what is the goal of this intergalactic federation.
rachelkleypassparrow
QUOTE(molo @ Oct 17 2004, 02:10 AM)
Since the first atomic bomb, sightings of UFO's have increased because there is a huge intergalactic federation of many beings from different worlds who have achieved perfect unity and a type of higher understanding that they don't have to fight anymore. Earth is another planet on the waiting list to join this galactic federation until it learns to not fight each other anymore but with the A bombs the observations have increased on us; the moon is just a huge base of these UFO's for monitoring us, is that correct?
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In part, yes. Humanity has been observed since the dawn of time. Actually, I would say that you are about 100% spot on.
Kryso
QUOTE(dunderhead @ Oct 17 2004, 11:28 PM)
"We come in peace!"  huh.gif But while we're waiting for you Humans to join our unique "members only" Intergalactic peace treaty, we're just gonna pop down and abduct a few more of you...??? huh.gif
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So true, lol. w00t.gif

oh, and Beam me up fluffybunny!
Mysteryman
I'm creating this as I go along. A new theory based on the first comment in this thread. I believe that ever since the first atom bomb, the o-zone layer has been severley destroyed. A huge piece of the o-zone layer deteriated and gave an entry to other life on other planets beyond space. Later on, as more paint sprays and hairsprays and dangerous chemicals to the environment have been created, the o-zone layer is deteriating by the second giving more creatures from other worlds more entries to our planet. That was just a theory I created on the first comment. :-D
recon_soldier
have a read around
http://paoweb.com

some interesting and hopefully true stuff there....

read his updates

http://paoweb.com/snarch.htm
molo
so that's just my theory from everything i gathered generally speaking that actually make sense
Moose420
Aliens are just explorers just like were. Sailing aroud to the different worlds, gathering knowledge of its peoples and moving on. Unlike us they seem not to want to start up an economic ties or any military conquest. Perhapes they have already tried to establish an alliance with gov'ts and have, we just don't know about it.

On our planet, many explorers arrived to North America on peaceful terms for many years but soon war-mongerers arrived and began an urge to conquest. How long till a certain race of creatures descend to our earth in hopes of conquest?
Engulf
Hey molo original.gif ,

Yes, I do have a similiar thought with you regarding this. Certain alien factions have been looking (scrutinizing, etc....you fill in your word) at us for quite a long time, BUT, it never grew until the extent that, you know it seems like the entire families of the Cosmos are now aware of our existence (and our stupidity too tongue.gif )!

You are right, statistically, UFO sightings, stories etc have increased into a significant and incalculable amount (not forgetting the introduction of abduction & other events) ever since the first of the atomic bombs were dropped. There are a few theories, that of course needs some consideration at the very least. original.gif

One is that they are concerned with our (mainly our politicians and elite-heads) immature way of handling these sort of weapons, and are trying thier best to deter (or.....help us realize the absolute destructive effects of it) us from using it and, destroy ourselves. mad.gif From this point, the one Grey theory comes into light, that being the Greys are coming from the future, and they being the "future" us, to forewarn us or at least preparing us for the aftermath of a future nuclear holocaust (which is clear now from how our world is heading!! ohmy.gif ). Other factions (Sirians, Errans, Vegans etc....) are also contributing too, but for other more specific purposes.

Two, is that thier prophecies (or predictions, forewarning of our brutal future, etc...) are coming to life now. Now according to the, let me try to recall, was it the Hopi or the Incan?? Can't really recall, sorry hmm.gif . Whichever one it is, the first droppings of the A-Bombs were the prophetic sign of an impending nuclear war in the near future. So I'm not saying that the signs are similar to these ETs, but the concept is rather similar, and right now these ETs are guiding us spiritually, whether it's the psychic-message awakenening type of technique (used by the Spacepeople, aka The Galactic Federation) or abduction, or astral guidance, I'm not putting the full-stop here. But NOTE: they cannot stop us from having a nuclear war in a direct fashion, ie. intervene and destroy all these nuclear-involved nations in the future (or even now no.gif ) as this will massively inflict our natural process of Life and Spiritual Evolutionary Path, and Kamma. All they could do is to try guiding us, bit by bit, steer up our awareness, and let us take off from that point onwards, with that seeing the entire world and Cosmos to "upgrade" ourselves (can't find a good word for that, sorry).

And then we have the more common one, that is being that we've attracted some bad company from a particular somewhere from the Universe (the other Grey theory), and now they're here to manipulate our immaturity and greed, to further thier wants and desires.

But one thing to note too, maybe, just maybe, that the A-Bomb event was just one of the many reasons for the increase of ET encounters (and the arrival of these ETs onto, into, and deep-into our planet). One of the many others, could well be a notification of the Grand Cycle cosmic event (or the end-age event, as depicted in the Mayan calendar). Maybe it was time that we've been notified of this upcoming event/s, and prepare ourselves spiritually. This is just my thought, who really knows?

Oh, I think I wrote too much and I'll just stop here. original.gif But molo, it's a great theory, it may be wrong (for some) but hey, if it spreads out the vision and touches Infinitism, why not? thumbsup.gif I'll see all of you again, ta-da. grin2.gif

**Yeah, one note before i blaze off for good, it's interesting to note that the late Albert Einstein got this theory too (not exactly, but....). Now he suggested that with the deployment of those A-Bombs could well distort other factors, ie. sub-matter realities, or the flow of the Cosmos (ie. Cosmic Consciousness, etc..), or something like that, and therefore, attracting the attention of possibly, ETs or other lifeforms in the Cosmos (or at least, in the boundary of the affected areas of the A-Bomb effects). I'm no physicist so I'm sorry, I can't replay everything in detail. hmm.gif But there was a document (I've seen somewhere before, or maybe stuck somewhere in my HDD? tongue.gif ) that reported Einstein was actually in the US, several years after the A-Bomb event, to further research this particular theory. It seems that he's right again..... thumbsup.gif
Engulf
QUOTE(Norman @ Oct 17 2004, 11:17 PM)
do you have any clue what the galactic federation is?
No. Another question: do you have any clue of what you're
talking about?
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Hello Norman original.gif ,

Ah great!! Now I can discuss some things regarding the Galactic Federation with someone. I've done some research into thier teachings and several propulsion systems of "ET" crafts, so hopefully someday we could sit down and grind all these interesting things out. thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
scipherel
Can we theorized something different about the aliens or ufo's ?
Most of us think they came from another galaxy or something.
I can't theorized that aliens fight with each other and i don't see them
as having advanced technology. What i can see is, they are advance
than ours but only on that point. If aliens could gather all the materials
in the universe and use it for their advancement then that is the limit of
their advancement. How about the intellectual designer of the universe ?
I believe this is more higher than this cheap aliens or ufo's.
stiltz
what if the A-bomb is all about spiltting the atom. well this entire universe is held together by atoms just like throwing a pebble in a clam lake you will get a ripple. I believe that there is a connection between nuclear power and how we use it on earth. When we in phoenix had a power plant shut down June 14th 2004 the Estrella Mountain lights (UFOS)were out for three days looking out over the palo nuclear power plant, I taped this on on the 15th and lots of people saw this. verhttp://www.hbccufo.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1483de
molo
Another thing i'd like to add why maybe UFO's have increased in our skies for two more reasons:
The Cold War was an era of spying out using aircraft, air traffic increased so unbelievably high during WW2 and propelled further after WW2 with all these crazy experiments, wonder weapons between the yanks and sovs that the UFO's figured "They've figured out mass destruction, and all that air traffic will surely aid in clouding our movements, let's increase our observations"

The 3rd reason why they seem increased is simply better technology on our part, the competition for space between the US and USSR allowed for new technology being developed after WWII, 50s, 60s at the height of cold war paranoia we simply started picking up more of these strange dots in the sky.

So with these 3 reasons, a-bombs, cold war, better tech is no wonder why UFO's have increased after the war.
Pinowawa1
QUOTE(molo @ Oct 17 2004, 01:10 AM)
Since the first atomic bomb, sightings of UFO's have increased because there is a huge intergalactic federation of many beings from different worlds who have achieved perfect unity and a type of higher understanding that they don't have to fight anymore. Earth is another planet on the waiting list to join this galactic federation until it learns to not fight each other anymore but with the A bombs the observations have increased on us; the moon is just a huge base of these UFO's for monitoring us, is that correct?
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Your theory is similar to what Philip Krapf outlined in his experiences with the entities he encountered within the novel he wrote .. though I forget the name of it blush.gif lol .. Intergalactic idea - everywhere where I read about it seems to say that earth will never be able to join it .. its in our nature to kill eachother... greed has taken over .. what a pitty sad.gif
Chewbaca
THE GALACTIC FEDERATION IS FROM STAR WARS!!!!!!
yes.gif yes.gif yes.gif
I suppose it all makes sence, alexander the great was relly...
(que for evil music)
DARTH VADER!!!! laugh.gif
HA HA Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and im goin apple picking with scooby doo!!!
toy,toy, toy

your theory is possible, but next time, try not to make it sound like an episode of
THE OUTER LIMITS
molo
well i've never seen that show
ROGER
grin2.gif If this Federation is waiting for Humans to get along, they may have a long wait.
We cant get one or two hundred forum members to agree on a lot of things.

Now if their here for an argument this is the Planet to be on! tongue.gif
Bio-Mage
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I'm creating this as I go along. A new theory based on the first comment in this thread. I believe that ever since the first atom bomb, the o-zone layer has been severley destroyed. A huge piece of the o-zone layer deteriated and gave an entry to other life on other planets beyond space. Later on, as more paint sprays and hairsprays and dangerous chemicals to the environment have been created, the o-zone layer is deteriating by the second giving more creatures from other worlds more entries to our planet. That was just a theory I created on the first comment. :-D


How the ozone layer can stop alien entering Earth? wacko.gif
rachelkleypassparrow
Mankind is a danger with the capability of controlling weapons of mass destruction. It is a force that is used for wrong doing and has no potential for benefit of the human race. The weapons are becoming more intensive and more lethal. There is still enough nuclear armour to destroy this earth several times over.

Now is that reason enough for visitation?
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