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firefemme1202
You're very lucky Chin to have just stopped using your inhaler...however for some people, myself included, it's not about just a regular inhaler...but about regualted steroids...allergy pills etc etc...since I was born it's just about keeping my heart rate low...even getting emotional causes me to breath badly, but I rarely use the rescue inhaler anymore...just the daily meds to keep my asthma regulated. I've started on the nebulizer around the time I could walk and through most of all my school years, I would have to wake up 10 minutes early every morning just to take all my medicine. Now I'm 20 and thanks to technology and combinations of medicines, I've got it down to a steroid and inhaler a day...1 minute and I'm set all day. Sad thing is, if I didn't get my medicine from Canada, I would have to pay a good $200 a month for my medicines here in America. I've tried to slowly ween myself off...and stop completely too...it doesn't matter. I always end up in the hospital either way.

As far as just the right veggies or not....I'm quite sure it's true they can help anything. I know the one thing that always worked with my asthma was weed. I don't reccommend it, I don't smoke it because it's illegal, but it helped and prevented breathing problems. As far as a proper veggie diet, I'm sure if it was a diet based on keeping acids in the body low or regulating any problem/disease with the body, it would take much more of a specific diet plan aside from just having the right veggies or not. But I bet they do help tremendously.
Fluffybunny
Chin, you should really not be dispensing medical advice without the knowledge to back it up. You obviously have no medical training whatsoever, and I shudder to think that someone may actually take you seriously and follow your "recommendations" only to land themselves in a worse situation than they started in.

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I do know that RAW potato juice in small amounts actually cleans the lungs of puss and probably other gross 'stuff'.


Potato juice will not clear the puss out of an asthmatics lungs as an astmatics lungs do not have any "puss" in them to begin with. Asthma is caused by a constriction in the tiny airways of the lungs, not pus, not other gross stuff.

All the potato juice in the world isn't going to do anything to a person who has asthma, except maybe getting them killed in a very painful, dreadful way.

I was an Army medic, and with the tiny amount of medical knowledge I gained in 8 years of actually treating sick and injured people I can tell you that you are so far out of line it is rediculous.

Do people need fresh fruits and vegitables on a daily basis to maintain their health? yes, of course. Can a regular healthy diet including fruits and vegitables help to prevent some cancers and diseases? Yes, to a degree.

Is any quantity of any fruit or vegitable juices that are going to cure cancer or asthma or any of the number of things you have claimed? Not a chance. You are out of your mind if you think so, and the fact that you have been prescribing your treatments to folks that come here with horrible stories of sick relatives tells me that you are not above telling people with end stage cancers that a juice regimen is going to fix them right up.

You mentioned that you always had asthma and it went away when you were about 18...guess what, many many people that outgrow Asthma do so at the end of their teens; just like I did, my dad did...etc, etc...

I am not going to go through piece by piece of your posts to show how wrong you are, but I will tell you that you should really learn about medicine before dispensing medical advice, which I have seen you do several times now. You could get yourself in a heap of trouble by doing so.
Bogeyman
Hey this thread has scared the pants off of me....i've always had trouble with acid stomach so i spose i'm very acidic......what should i be eating in my diet to change things round ????????
Thanks
aquatus1
For crying out loud! Now people are asking Chin for medical advice?
_CHIN_
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You're very lucky Chin to have just stopped using your inhaler...however for some people, myself included, it's not about just a regular inhaler...but about regualted steroids...allergy pills etc etc...since I was born it's just about keeping my heart rate low...even getting emotional causes me to breath badly, but I rarely use the rescue inhaler anymore...just the daily meds to keep my asthma regulated. I've started on the nebulizer around the time I could walk and through most of all my school years, I would have to wake up 10 minutes early every morning just to take all my medicine. Now I'm 20 and thanks to technology and combinations of medicines, I've got it down to a steroid and inhaler a day...1 minute and I'm set all day. Sad thing is, if I didn't get my medicine from Canada, I would have to pay a good $200 a month for my medicines here in America. I've tried to slowly ween myself off...and stop completely too...it doesn't matter. I always end up in the hospital either way.

As far as just the right veggies or not....I'm quite sure it's true they can help anything. I know the one thing that always worked with my asthma was weed. I don't reccommend it, I don't smoke it because it's illegal, but it helped and prevented breathing problems. As far as a proper veggie diet, I'm sure if it was a diet based on keeping acids in the body low or regulating any problem/disease with the body, it would take much more of a specific diet plan aside from just having the right veggies or not. But I bet they do help tremendously.



Hi, I'll be glad when we can discover a practical cure for asthma. You mentioned weed, I've heard that making tea out of just the roots of hemp plants(without toxicity) help to cure asthma, or at least relieve it. You mentioned allergies as well, mine have gone away...

The reason for my allergies going away I believe is because I moved from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada to Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada. Where I live now I think the air is much more clean, and there are probably many other contributing factors...

I think the inhaler I used to use had steroids in it as well. I really didn't like the idea of taking steroids, which was one of the reasons why I basically decided I was going to stop using it.

If stopping taking medication is going to lead you into the hospital, then it obviously isn't good to do that as you've learnt. But I think it's possible to make your body and lungs able to work better and more effectively, and heal the cause of the problem in the first place, even while still taking medication. Eventually it may be possible to get off the medication as well.

Even things like meditation and breathing excercises may help such a condition. Something like Qigong, which is an ancient art of healing.


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Hey this thread has scared the pants off of me....i've always had trouble with acid stomach so i spose i'm very acidic......what should i be eating in my diet to change things round ????????
Thanks



Hi, I'm wondering what you mean here.... I'm assuming that you have heart burn all of the time, or severe heartburn? I can't imagine what else it might mean to have acid stomach.

Heartburn can be caused by several things. I imagine the most common cause of severe heartburn would be ulcers or eroded parts of the stomach, etc, from acid. As people have written here, alot of the foods we eat are acidic, like white bread, chocolate bars, meat, etc.

So if you have a very acidic stomach it would make sense to reverse that with things that are non acidic, such as vegetable juices..

The way to get rid of heartburn is to drink cabbage juice. I can guarantee that if you have really bad heartburn all of the time and drink cabbage juice, it would go away. For my Dad, he had severe heartburn in his chest and stomach accompanied with pain. I diagnosed him as having ulcers and found a way to heal them. I found out that cabbage juice does that. After the very first drink within seconds his heartburn went away. Over time the ulcers were healed, no more pain or heartburn....

Here's a link to a site that suggests cabbages are excellent for getting rid of ulcers because cabbage has an amino acid in it that stengthens the lining of the stomach and provides blood flow to it.



[url=http://ne.essortment.com/stomachulcersn_ryuk.htm]

Honey is also mentioned as a healer of the stomach lining, along with unripe plantains.....
Bogeyman
Cheers
Am gonna put the wifes juicer to good use from now on.....cabbages everywhere beware.
CatAstrofix
FOR HEAVENS SAKE!!!
Yes there is alternative methods for treating different kinds of conditions, for some they work, for some they don't. Some find the help from the "traditional" medicine. What you're doing here CHIN is dangerous and stupid. You're giving advice to ppl that you know nothing about, and the sad truth is that someone might be just naive enought to believe you, that could be dangerous.
You're also offending ppl that actually fight with some disease, and who has tried just about everything to make them feel better, not just doctors and drugs and radiation. You're text is mockery towards the ones that you claim to be helping. I don't know if you do it in purpose or not, but you should carefully consider where and how to use your knowledge, and will it actually help or put ppl in danger.
I'm obviously bit sensitive about this.. well, I have my reasons.
Stellar
I feel sorry for the person with cancer who decides to give up medicin to ask CHIN about which fruite he should eat sad.gif
Bogeyman
C'mon guys......cabbage or carrot juice is hardly dangerous advice is it ?
Advising people to drink veggie juice is not dangerous.But you are right in so far as ppl with these diseases have tried everything to no avail most times........Why cant we come up with a cure for this terrible disease though with all the resources of the world.If the same amount of m0ney was put into research as is put into weapons this would be a better place to live.........But thats an argument for another forum.
aquatus1
*shrugs*

Research into explosives brought about nitroglycerin, which is carried by many in the event of cardiac problems. Don't knock weapons research, it could save your life someday;-)
Bogeyman
Hmmmmmm ! Well as i say the weapons issue is probably best left for another time and place.
On the subject of Cancer heres a link that claims to back up the theory that diet is the answer......

http://www.cancertutor.com/Other/NoCancer.html
Deadly Nightshade
Does this really work???
CatAstrofix
Sadly the ones who tried and failed aren't here to tell it.
Deadly Nightshade
....but could this be the new cure???
Bogeyman
QUOTE(CatAstrofix @ Nov 8 2004, 02:51 PM)
Sadly the ones who tried and failed aren't here to tell it.
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This is very true.
But hey it cant do any harm can it......?
I know that Diet has long been considered a huge factor in cancer among conventional doctors so eating healthier food cant be any harm can it......i also read once that if you believe that something is doing you good ...it will,the power of the mind i spose....it's the same reason used for miracles,although i believe these are something else again.
Stellar
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But hey it cant do any harm can it......?


It can when you decide that you're gonna take fruits and vegetables to cure you of a disease instead of taking the medicin the doctors gave you.
vulturetotem
no, actually it's a very OLD cure. my great-uncle who was cured of
prostate cancer twice, gave up cooked food altogether. his wife put him
on a diet which can be found in "back to eden" written in 1939 by
Jethro Kloss.

i find it amusing that in the land of "just say no" americans will eat any
drug the fda tells them to.

the use of diet actually treats the diseases whereas the use of drugs
treats only the symptoms.so, do ya wanna feel better or actually GET
better.

BTW: giving people the tools to help themselves is NOT dangerously handing out medical advice. flooding our bodies with poisons and the drug de joir is very dangerous.
l,l,p
v.t.
Deadly Nightshade
Hi VultureTotem, I havent seen you for ages.
I tend to agree that there could be a natural cure out there for some drugs doctors prescribe can harm you. For Example: Valium> That can be very harmful as it is not only addictive but your body gets used to the dosage after a while, therefore, not having any effect so the patient will need a higher dose and it can go on and on, its a vicious circle. Too much of this stuff can cause cardiac arrest(fact).

With Love and Light

Nightshade
xxx.
CatAstrofix
Healty diet and veggie juices sure are good for your health, no disagreement there. What I see here, is advice to rely on those in treating diseases like cancer. What worked for your Grandfather, VultureTotem, might not work for someone else. It's a nice exsample, that not always havy drugs and radiation is needed to get well, but for some it is. Using healthy diet alongside, no harm done.
Deadly Nightshade, you took as an example Valium. For what you said about it, I agree, but valium isn't used to cure anything, and I don't think it never could. There is medication used for having a certain effect on our body (like dopamine in parkinsons) that eases the cause of the symptoms. Then there are other medication, which treat nothing, but simpy makes it possible to live with some condition, for example chronic pain.
Of course getting rid of the cause of the illness would always be better solution, but sometimes it just doesn't happen, not even with veggie-juices, and then we just have to find out what best works for us, and in that we are all different.
Miracles do happen, cabbage can have healing powers, but it seems to be more of an exception than rule.
Deadly Nightshade
Hi Cat
I think you misunderstood me there.
I was just giving an example of drugs and their harmful effects.
I think drugs may cure the symtoms but not the disease.
Fluffybunny
Sorry folks, Dr. Chin is out of business.

I already outlined the reasons why in my post above.
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