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Blueprints
Their is a book out there called The Book of Enoch that grabs my imagination.
The book is part of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but they don`t add it to the translation of
the books that make up The King James bible. To rediculise I guess one would say, but it`s out there.

If you haven`t read it, you should read it with an open mind. Here`s a Link:

The Book of Enoch

I have search The King James Bible for this man called Enoch,and I have found him.
In Genesis 4:17 he is born, the son of Cain.
Now if you look at Genesis chapter 5, every body is said to die.
But Enoch is the only one who did not die, "he disappeared,for God took him"
Enoch also has something to say in Jude 1:14-16.
He also appears in Hebrew 11:5, Not dying but taken up to heaven.

His book is part of the Apocrypha(hidden)books, and the Roman Catholic Church
doesn`t consider it inspired writting, so they don`t it to the Bible.
Which is weird because part of Enoch`s book is explained the same way in
Genesis 6:1-6, so why that, but not Enoch`s Book.

What do think about The Book of Enoch?
Do you think he Really describes Heaven and it`s surroundings?
And do you think God really took him without him dying?
beowulf
Just for your information pseudepigrapha is a book (or books) written long afterwards and falsely attributed to a famous personage to give them believability that the book would not otherwise have. In other words – a forgery! blink.gif
wacker
QUOTE(beowulf @ Oct 20 2004, 09:33 PM)
Just for your information pseudepigrapha is a book (or books) written long afterwards and falsely attributed to a famous personage to give them believability that the book would not otherwise have.  In other words – a forgery! blink.gif
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Not necessarily - books which are accounts of deeds in the distant past are often compilations written from folk memories. They may then be accredited to one of the characters who appears in the book but this doesn't make them a forgery. As writing and reading became more widespread so folk memories hold less credance than the written or printed word.

Enoch was rediscovered for the west in the 1774 by James Bruce in Ethiopia and contemporary thinkers thought it to be of no great consequence because of its strange contents, however when copies of it were discovered amongst the Dead Sea Scroll it was realised that it was very old indeed.





rachelkleypassparrow
QUOTE(Blueprints @ Oct 20 2004, 08:52 PM)
Their is a book out there called The Book of Enoch that grabs my imagination.
The book is part of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but they don`t add it to the translation of
the books that make up The King James bible. To rediculise I guess one would say, but it`s out there.

If you haven`t read it, you should read it with an open mind. Here`s a Link:

The Book of Enoch

I have search The King James Bible for this man called Enoch,and I have found  him.
In Genesis 4:17 he is born, the son of Cain.
Now if you look at Genesis chapter 5, every body is said to die.
But Enoch is the only one who did not die, "he disappeared,for God took him"
Enoch also has something to say in Jude 1:14-16.
He also appears in Hebrew 11:5, Not dying but taken up to heaven.

His book is part of the Apocrypha(hidden)books, and the Roman Catholic Church
doesn`t consider it inspired writting, so they don`t it to the Bible.

Enoch's faith allowed him to be carried Home and back to G-d. I have no reason to doubt the BOOK OF ENOCH. Reason: I believe it to be a true revelation from the Divine.
Which is weird because part of Enoch`s book is explained the same way in
Genesis 6:1-6, so why that, but not Enoch`s Book.

What do think about The Book of Enoch?
Do you think he Really describes Heaven and it`s surroundings?
And do you think God really took him without him dying?
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rachelkleypassparrow
QUOTE(Blueprints @ Oct 20 2004, 08:52 PM)
Their is a book out there called The Book of Enoch that grabs my imagination.
The book is part of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but they don`t add it to the translation of
the books that make up The King James bible. To rediculise I guess one would say, but it`s out there.

If you haven`t read it, you should read it with an open mind. Here`s a Link:

The Book of Enoch

I have search The King James Bible for this man called Enoch,and I have found   him.
In Genesis 4:17 he is born, the son of Cain.
Now if you look at Genesis chapter 5, every body is said to die.
But Enoch is the only one who did not die, "he disappeared,for God took him"
Enoch also has something to say in Jude 1:14-16.
He also appears in Hebrew 11:5, Not dying but taken up to heaven.

His book is part of the Apocrypha(hidden)books, and the Roman Catholic Church
doesn`t consider it inspired writting, so they don`t it to the Bible.
Which is weird because part of Enoch`s book is explained the same way in
Genesis 6:1-6, so why that, but not Enoch`s Book.

What do think about The Book of Enoch?
Do you think he Really describes Heaven and it`s surroundings?
And do you think God really took him without him dying?
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YES . Enoch's faith allowed him to be carried back Home to the Divine.
beowulf
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Not necessarily - books which are accounts of deeds in the distant past are often compilations written from folk memories. They may then be accredited to one of the characters who appears in the book but this doesn't make them a forgery. As writing and reading became more widespread so folk memories hold less credence than the written or printed word.


Writings attributed to a person that didn’t write them is a forgery, whether the information is true or not. If you will breakdown the word pseudegipha; pseudo (false) epigrapha (ancient writing/document/engraving – hence FORGERY! Something that you may or may not be familiar with is that the Dead Sea Scrolls are believed to the library of the Essene community of Qumran. The Essene were well known for writing allegories and pseudoepigraphs. This in essence means that your book is probably no older than the Maccabean reconstitution of the OT or 150 years before the current era. That is not what I call really ancient. huh.gif
smokejaguar
The pseudepigrapha isnt necessarily false writing just texts now misunderstood in their context.Texts like Enoch were rejected(Catholics mainly)because ppl cant wrap their minds around it.Primarily because it talk about ANGELS and their offspring.And you know how that subject makes ppl crazy.Also take note ...There is more than one Enoch.Check Cains Line (Satan) and Adams Line.-usdi Agaluga
wacker
Thank you for the language and history lesson - I was aware of the Essenes and some of their background. But that was not the point I was making...

beowulf
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But that was not the point I was making...


I realize the point you were making and countered with the point that the Essenes were well known for writing material that wasn't exactly what it seemed and putting the name of "historical or mythological" persons to them. Enoch can not be traced to a period earlier than the Dead Sea Scrolls and qualifies as nothing more than psuedepigrapha written for a now unknown reason by the Essenes. rolleyes.gif

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Texts like Enoch were rejected(Catholics mainly)because ppl cant wrap their minds around it


Enoch wasn't known to modern Xianity until 1774 and being an Essene document probably not known by early Xians, just as the "Damascus Document" (also an Essene creation) wasn't known by early Xians or by us until 1897 when a copy was found in a Cairo synagogue. That is why it was never in the bible, Constantine and his motley crew of Xians didn't even know it existed, so had no reason to reject it. wacko.gif

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  There is more than one Enoch


Last time I looked there were 5, but they are still mythology, no matter how many. whistling2.gif
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