Hmm.. just checked the links myself, i guess their server is having a problem or something, i sent an email via the 'contact us' on their main page. I'll see if i cant find the videos elsewhere.

I have a video..altough I dont know if it his genuine


let me know what you think

Found a site that has a different video, its a little more than halfway down the page, 'milk hill 1990' crop circle video Click
(there are also many many other ufo videos on that site, too bad they dont allow saving them)

ThePortal, that video is fake, Click Here for the story on it. Make sure you read the postscript, at the bottom, about the guy being prosecuted for it.

Thank you UniversalAbsurdity for clearing this one I was really not sure


I will definitly take a look at your link too

Yea, it's quite amazing the things that can be done with videos now a days in terms of hoaxes.

That is most certainly true. And not just videos. There very little in the list of 'genuine' crop circle indicators that has not been replicated by human means. To be perfectly frank, I would like to know how it is that the experts in the field make their decisions, especially in the light that so many have done so and later found out that their genuine circle was indeed a hoax.

Well, you know, in the past 50 years, all we've had is pictures and videos. And I am willing to bet it will always be that way.

Do you have any sources, aquatus1?

For what?

I would like to know of cases where crop circles were classed as genuine and then classed as hoaxes.

As far as i know a crop formation is classified as genuine when it is ruled out that humans could have done it. Stalks bent/streached and not broken for example. The only way i could imagine that 'real' formations were found out to be a hoax is by lack of study, where the formation was considered genuine by the locals untill someone took a closer look. Generally misinformation.

I'd like to see an example other than the scenario i just typed. If you can find one aquatus, you could very well disprove many genuine formations. It would have to contain an explanation for the bending of the stalks of corse, in the whole formation, with reasonable time allowed for formations to be completed in a night. I've heard about the portable microwave 'gun' that can bend stalks, i've also heard that its not very practical.

There is a video you can download on one of these sites I have it and it shows two balls of light that look like they are chaseing each other but under them in a field a crop sircle forms. Its black & white or night vision and its hard to say from watching it but kinda cool.

You'll find that one earlier in this thread. It was admitted to be a hoax.

Peace Brothers and sisters.

Even though I am nearly convinced, that crop circles are actualy manmade, I do wonder, why until today noone exercised one of the really complicated formations in front of a TV camera. Doug and Dave were the only both hoaxers who made themselves public, but what they produced had really nothing to do with the complex ones. One thing is for sure. The formations emerge by night and it has to be an orchestrated action by well trained personel which is used to work with geometrical drafts and schemes, like architects do. It is very possible that at least 2-5 persons are involved. To make it more complicated it seems, the circles are created in total darkness. Do they work with night vision -goggles.
We see, there is another thing for sure: there are many mysterious aspects in connection with their appearance even as with the people who are behind that. Why did not go one self seeking involved individual into the public to show it to all, that he has hoaxed all those who believed, there might be sth. genuine!? It stays mysterious!
PS: Mars Face is proved to be a natural formation.!

Actually, Team Satan is regularly hired to create crop formations, and have, on numerous occasions, create complex picture in a matter of hours. You might want to look them up on the net to see if their web page has any tips and techniques (Doub.t it, though. It could be seen as encouraging vandalism)

About crop cicles I saw a show on TLC about them. Aparently in the genuine ones there are small spheres of magnatite that is only created by falling from high up at extreme temperatures. There is also a magnetic flux thing that screws with compases. The other thing is that a special math equasion can turn the measurements of crop circles into tones, these tones create patterns forming a spooky sort of music but sadly i don't know any links.

They could be made by cows or somthing, but I really believe it's the work of somthing 'other-worldly'.