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GypsyKing
The Earths mantle beneath the Pacific is almost non-existant compared to the depth of it elsewhere in the world. Plate-tectonics is not a new field but it is not an advanced science either. The recent underwater earthquake off Sumatra (Indonesia) was right on the fault-line of two of these plates. Krakatua, (1885), was on the same fault.

Humanity has all but been extinguished on previous occasions in the history of the planet. That it will happen again is almost certain and perhaps overdue. From the survivors come the accounts that we today generally view as mythology, or, worse, nonsense.

The depth of the mantle beneath the Pacific, or, if you prefer, within the boundaries of the 'ring of fire' could be indicative of the biblical tales that tell of raining fire and nights of darkness. A close encounter with a comet perhaps that severely damaged the planet.
psycho skeptic
Well, if humanity goes I think humanity will take the world with it. An eye for an eye I always say... devil.gif
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QUOTE(Is It 4:20 Yet? @ Dec 26 2004, 01:36 PM)

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Did I?

Maybe that was a smile out of fear due to the overwhelming facts! w00t.gif
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QUOTE(psycho skeptic @ Dec 27 2004, 11:42 PM)
Well, if humanity goes I think humanity will take the world with it. An eye for an eye I always say... devil.gif
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Unfortunately, in spite of so much pretensions, technology and money, we cannot control nature; we know very well that any stomachache or headache saddens us and that deep down we continue being ignorant, unhappy and miserable slugs from the mud of the earth. huh.gif

Facts are showing us that we are still the same barbarians of the past, and instead of improving we have become worse and terrible weak. crying.gif
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The Final Catastrophe by the Avatara of Aquarius

The Sun Stone, the famous Aztec calendar, is unquestionably a perfect summary of science, philosophy, art and religion.

Tonatiuh, the Word of St. John, the Logos or Creator Demiurge of the universe, with his triangular tongue of fire, is the golden child of sexual alchemy, the midnight spiritual sun, the ascending eagle, and the resplendent Dragon of Wisdom. He is represented by the shining star that gives us life, light and heat. Decorated in the Nahua style, he appears glorious in the centre of the great solar stone.

To the sides of the great face, his hands, armed with eagle claws, squeeze human hearts.
In transcendental esotericism, the M .. M .. know very well the profound meaning of the claw greeting.

Around the figure of the Mexican word, the date “4- Movement” is engraved in great dimensions. It is the day in which our present fifth sun will be consumed by fire and earthquakes.

In the extraordinary rectangles of the Movement sign, are sculpted the dates in which the previous suns perished.

The children of the First Sun (the divine androgynous first race) who happily lived in the Crystal Island, perished, devoured by the tigers. Let us remember what I already said in this treatise about that feline.

The children of the Second Sun, the Hyperboreans (the second race of Apollo’s land) were razed by powerful hurricanes.

The children of the Third Sun, the Lemurian Hermaphrodites (the people of the third race) who lived in the Mu continent located in the Pacific Ocean, perished by raining fire and strong earthquakes.

The waters swallowed the children of the Fourth Sun, the Atlanteans, (the fourth race) whose continent was located in the Atlantic Ocean.

Whoever has done a serious study on the prophetic sermon of the great Kabir Jesus, and the Second Epistle of Peter to the Romans, will undoubtedly feel reverent respect for the severe aspect of the Solar Stone.

Michel Nostradamus, extraordinary seer, notable astrologer, who lived between 1503 and 1566 in France, says: “In the year 1999, in the seventh month, a great king of terror will come from the sky” See the first two verses of the Century 10-72.

According to astronomic calculations, there will be only two total solar eclipses in the twentieth century: one on February 4th, 1962 and the other in August 1999.

The terrifying disturbance of the orbit and motion of planet Earth is scientifically justified by the same seer, Nostradamus, through the approach of another star that for seven days will appear as another sun.

St. John’s Apocalypse cites the above star, calling it “wormwood” (bitterness).

We refer to this gigantic planet with the name “Hercolubus.” Many call it “The Cold Planet,” and others call it “The Red Planet.” It is unquestionably a lot bigger than Jupiter, the colossal giant of our solar system.

“To a solar eclipse — says Nostradamus — will succeed the darkest and most tenebrous summer that has ever been since creation to the passion and death of Jesus Christ, and from then to that day. And this will be in the month of October when a great displacement will occur; in such a way that everyone will think that the earth is outside its orbit and lost in eternal darkness.”

Jesus the great Kabir said:
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; when his branch is yet tender and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh.

So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled.

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
But as the days of Noah were so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,

And knew not until the flood came and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken and the other left.

Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken and the other left.
Watch therefore, for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

Blessed is that servant whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

Verily, I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

And shall begin to smite his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him and in an hour that he is not aware of.

And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Isaiah, 13: 10, 13 says:
For the stars of the heavens and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

Isaiah, 24: 20:
The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

Paul, II Thessalonians 2: 3-4:
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

II Peter,3: 10:
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Joel, 3: 15,16:
The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. ...and the heavens and the earth shall shake:....

St. John, Revelation 6: 12-17:
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were removed out of their places.

And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us and hide us from the face of him that is sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;

For the great day of his wrath has come; and who shall be able to stand?

John [ 20: 12-13; 21: 1, 5]:
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me,
Write: for these words are true and faithful.

It is said in Revelation that at the end of this world, the Antichrist (materialistic science) will appear.

The beast, or great whore, that is, the entire humanity whose fatal number is 666 and the devil who deceived them, (atheist intellectualism, or the false prophet who makes miracles and deceiving prodigies, atomic bombs, space rockets, ultrasonic airplanes, and so on) were thrown into the lake of fire and sulphur in the bowels of earth.

The Book of the Books of Chilam Balam, sacred jewel of the Mayan people textually says the following:

The 13 Ahau Katun is the thirteenth to be counted. Cabal lxbach Chachalaca town. Kinchil Coba, Chachalaca of solar face is the base of the thirteenth Katun.

The branch of the lords of earth will be black by the universal justice of God our Lord. The Sun will turn away. The face of the Moon will turn away. Blood will run on trees and stones. The heavens and earth will burn by the word of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. Holy Justice, Holy Judgement of God Our Lord.

The force of heaven and earth will be worthless when the big cities and the hidden towns, and the great city Maax-Monkey and all the small towns everywhere in the flat country of Maya-Cusamil-Mayapán, Mayan-swallow-deer-banner become Christians.

It will be the time when two-days-humans (homosexuals and lesbians) will raise, in the heat of lechery, as the children of the wicked and the perverse — height of our perdition and shame.
Our children will be offered to the May flower and there will be no good for us.

The rising Moon will be the beginning of death by bad blood, and on the coming of the full Moon, the whole of the blood will come. The good stars will also show kindness to the dead and the living.

Melchizedek, the genie of earth, king of the world, made the following prophecy in Tibet:
Men (or better said, rational mammals) will gradually forget their souls to only take care of their bodies. The greatest corruption will reign on earth.

Men will resemble ferocious beasts, thirsty for their brothers’ blood.

The half moon will darken and its adepts will fall in perpetual war. The greatest misfortunes will fall upon them and they will fight each other.

The crowns of the kings, great and small, will fall; one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight A terrible war among all peoples will break out.

The oceans will roar. The earth and the bottoms of the seas will be covered in bones.

Kingdoms will disappear, entire populations will die... famine, disease, crimes not covered by the laws, never seen, neither dreamed of by men....

Then, the enemies of God and Divine Spirit that lie in man himself, will come. Those who raise their hands against others will perish as well.

The forgotten and the persecuted will raise later; they will be the centre of attention of the whole world.

There will be thick darkness, horrible storms. Mountains until then arid, will be covered with forests.

Earth will be shaken. Millions of men will exchange the chains of slavery and humiliations by hunger, pestilence and death.

Roads will be crowded with people, walking randomly from one place to another.

The greatest, the most beautiful cities will disappear in fire... one, two, three. Out of ten thousand men, one will survive, and he will be naked, deprived of reason and lacking strength to build a shelter or find food. And these surviving men will bark like mad wolves, they will devour corpses and bite their own flesh, and they will challenge God for combat.

Earth will be deserted, and even God will leave.... Only death and night will be on the empty earth.

Then I will send a group of people (the World Salvation Arm), until then unknown, who, with strong hands, will remove the weeds from the cultivating field of vice and will lead the few faithful to the spirit of man in the battle against evil.

They will found a new life on earth, purified by the death of nations.

This prophecy is accepted by Gnostics who interpret it as the end of the black age or Kali-Yuga. Later, according to them, there will be a new civilization and a new culture.

St. Odele — the German princess born in the year 660, who accurately prophesized Hitler’s Germany and the Second World War — predicted for the end of the Kali-Yuga, that “strange monsters will come from the oceans and will spread terror. Prodigies will be seen in the Orient. A huge black cloud will spread misery.”

Mother Shipton, the famous seer of the 15th century, born in England, predicted astonishing events. Let us examine some of her predictions.

Cars and trains: “Carts without horses will roll and accidents will fill the world with pain.”

Radiotelegraphy: “Thoughts will circle the globe in the time of the wink of an eye.”

Submarines: “Men will move, travel, sleep and talk under water.”

Airplanes: “We will see men in the air, in white, black and green.”

Great world catastrophe: “The world will reach its end in 1999.”

The great kabir Jesus said:
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Watch ye therefore; for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, (neither the date, nor the year) at even, or at midnight, or at c*** crowing, or in the morning:

Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping (that is, with your Consciousness sleeping).
And what I say unto you I say unto all, watch (awaken your Consciousness).
The end times have come and the great universal fire is too close....

Let us conveniently quote some extraordinary verses of The Koran: “The hour drew nigh and the moon was rent in twain. And if they behold a portent they turn away and say: Prolonged illusion.”

This is in no way a matter of a geological breaking of our neighbor satellite. This Muhammad prophecy must be interpreted in a political and military context. From 1980 on, observe the Islamic situation. This is the only way of understanding what will happen to the half-moon followers.

“Lo! the Day of Decision is a fixed time. A day when the trumpet is blown and ye come in multitudes. And the heaven is opened and becometh as gates. And the hills are set in motion....”

We have already explained the effects that planet (Barnard) Hercolubus’ visit will have upon our planet Earth. It will undoubtedly suffer in a violent way the various changes prophesized by Muhammad in The Koran. Refer to The Koran:

Lo! There are above you guardians, Generous and recording Who know (all) that ye do.
Lo! the righteous verily will be in delight.
And Lo! the wicked verily will be in hell;
They will burn therein on the Day of Judgment....
...When Earth is shaken with her (final) earthquake and Earth yielded up her burdens
...That day mankind will issue forth in scattered groups to be shown their deeds....
. .And when the sun is overthrown
And when the stars fall
And when the hills are moved....
...And when the seas rise....
. .And when souls are reunited....
...And when the sky is torn away....
...Lo! the righteous will be in delight
And Lo! the wicked verily will be in hell.

In mystical rapture, I contemplated in the Causal World, the nearing great catastrophe.

Since this is the region of ineffable music, the current of sound illustrated my vision.

Some delightful, tragical symphony resounded in the depths of the Heaven of Venus.

In general, that score astonished by its majesty and its grandeur, by the inspiration and beauty of its design, by the purity of its lines, and by the colorful hue of its wise and artistic illustration. It was at the same time sweet and severe, grandiose and terrifying, dramatic and gloomy.

The melodic pieces (leitmotivs) I heard in the Causal World at the various prophetic settings made a very powerful impression. They related to the great event and to the great historical occurrences that will proceed it in time.

In the score of that great cosmic opera, there are symphonic pieces which relate to the Third World War, delightful dooming sounds, horrifying events, atomic bombs, worldwide frightful radioactivity, famine, total destruction of the great metropolis, unknown diseases, anarchist and bloody revolutions, unbearable dictatorships, atheism, materialism, unlimited cruelty, concentration camps, mortal hatred, proliferation of borders, religious persecution, unprecedented martyrs, execrable Bolshevism, abominable anarchy, intellectualism void of spiritualism, total loss of organic shame, drugs, alcoholism, prostitution. infamous exploitation, new systems of torture and more.

Combined with that unprecedented type of art, chilly themes related to the destruction of the powerful metropolis of the world, Paris, Rome, London, New York, Moscow, and others were heard.

Nostradamus, in a famous letter addressed to Henry II, says:
“When the sun will be totally eclipsed, a new, colossal celestial body will be seen in the sky right in the day, but the astrologers (he alludes to the “famous” present and future astronomers) will interpret the effects of this body, in another manner” (in a very modern way). As a result of this wrong interpretation, no one will gather supplies for the coming penuries (referring to the great catastrophe).

Nostradamus, physician, astrologer and illuminated clairvoyant, adds, to his predictions, the matter of the revolution of the axis of the earth, but he does not indicate an exact or proper date when this will happen. He links it, nevertheless, to the double eclipse that will take place in the year 1999.

There was an extraordinary conjunction in the zodiacal sign of Capricorn that make known its influence from 1984 all the way through to 1999.

The great mistress H.P.B. predicted years ago that there would be a world-wide revolt by the end of the century.

John the Evangelist says:
When the birds of steel lay their eggs of fire, when men dominate the air and travel to the depths of the sea, when the dead resuscitate, when fire comes from the heavens, and when people from the country want to reach the cities, and people from the cities want to reach the country, strange devices will be seen in the sky and extraordinary things will be seen from the earth....

When all beings, young and old, will have visions, premonitions, and will make prophesies, when men divide in the name of Christ, when hunger, thirst, scarcity, pain and graveyards will substitute entire populations....

When blood brothers kill each other, and everyone adores the beast, then the end times have arrived.

Paul the apostle, in his First Epistle to the Thessalonians, 5:20-21 advises: “Despise not prophesies. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”

The cyclic history of humanity starts in Genesis 6, with the recounting of the universal flood (sinking of the Atlantean continent) and finishes in Revelation 20, with the burning flames of the final judgment.

Moses, saved from the stormy waters of life, wrote the first. St. John, the extraordinary exemplification of solar exaltation, closes the sacred book with seals of sulphur and fire.

Hence, in spite of the apparent full-scale, terrifying, and prolonged action of the unleashed elements, we are convinced that the nearing great cataclysm will not act evenly everywhere, neither in the continents nor in the seas. Some privileged lands will shelter the men, women and children of the World Salvation Army.

There, for some time, those select souls will witness the frightful battle of fire and water.
The double rainbow will announce the beauty of a new golden age after the great catastrophe.

Virgil, the great poet of Mantua, master of Florentine Dante, said: “The golden age has arrived; a new progeny commands.”

We know, on the other hand, how superior the Bible is, in contrast to other books.
Unquestionably, in spite of being the eternal and immutable book, or the foremost cyclic book, the Bible has not said in any of its verses, that the year 1999 is precisely the year of the great catastrophe.

Nevertheless, in spite of not knowing the exact date of the imminent and terrifying catastrophe — only the Father knows the time and day — we know through the direct experience that the end times have already arrived, and they are here.

It is not our intention to argue with the partisans of such a date. We only want to state that the Bible, in spite of containing the revelation of all human history (throughout it, there is an anthology of all peoples), it never says that in the year 1999 the Aryan race (the present humanity) will perish.

The scholars, however, can in no way ignore that in the Bible there is an in extensor narration of the journey every great cyclic generation makes.

Humanity is completely ripened for the supreme punishment. The end of this shameful humanity is near.

The Kabbalist analysis demonstrates that in the numbers two (2), five (5), zero (0), and zero (0), the secret of the great catastrophe is enclosed. Whosoever has understanding, let him understand, for there is wisdom within....

Unfortunately, people do not know how to comprehend the profound meaning of some Kabbalist numbers. They interpret — lamentably — everything literally, i.e. the year 1999.
We must wait in cold blood the supreme hour, of punishment for many and of martyrdom for some others.

Peter says:
Knowing this first that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, ‘Where is the promise of his coming’ for since the fathers fell asleep all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

But the day of the Lord will come (only the Father knows the date) as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. [Peter, 3: 91
“In our past there have been two world wars. The war of 1914 to 1918, and the war of 1939 to 1945; would a Third World War come that would be more devastating than the first or the second?

“Well, as far as human beings are concerned, they are full of hatred. Therefore, as long as people carry within their interior the factors that produce wars, there will always be wars.
“The words of the Biblical Daniel the prophet comes to memory at the very moment of writing this:

"The four winds of the heavens strove upon the great sea.

"And four beasts came up from the sea and they were diverse one from the other.

"The first beast was like a lion, and had eagles's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

"And behold another beast, a second like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise , devour much flesh.

"After this I beheld, and lo another like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given unto it.

"After this I saw in the night visions, and the fourth beast, dreadful and terrible and strong exceedingly, and It had great iron teeth and everything that the beast devoured broke into pieces and it stamped the residue of the pieces with its feet. It was diverse from all of the other beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.

"...And shall devour the whole Earth, and shall wear it down and break it into pieces. And he shall wear out the saints of the most high, but when judgment takes its seat, the judge will take away his dominion and the kingdom will be delivered unto the kingdom of the saints."
The kingdom will be delivered unto the saints with the arrival of the New Golden Age.

Obviously, the four beasts that Daniel saw in vision are a reference to the four ages of present Aryan Root Race: The Age of Gold, the Age of Silver, the Age of Copper, and the Age of Iron, which is our present age.

“In the Iron Age, humanity always arrives in the state in which it presently is. Thus, this is how this fourth beast (Iron Age) has been as dreadful and terrible as Daniel said, diverse from all of the other beasts (other ages), but his end will come from night to morning. As it is written, the day of the Lord will come when it is not expected. He will come as a thief in the night.

“The Lord is not a particular human being but the Fire INRI; this is why Peter when prophesying stated:
"The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the Earth also and the works therein shall be burned up."

“Therefore, in these precise moments we are in the beginning of the end. The Apocalypse tells us of the beginning of the end, and we are precisely in the end of our era, that is to say, the end of Kali Yuga, the end of this fourth beast (humanity).

“You will see within a very short time, how the cities of the world will fall. Everything will be reduced to ashes, the earthquakes will intensify frightfully, and they will be each time more and more powerful.

“Therefore, you will be witnesses within a very short time, in your bodies of bones and flesh, of the events which will occur. You will remember by yourselves and then you will remember what we have written here.

“Alas, it is necessary for us to pay attention to these times, for the end of this Root Race is at hand. With solar mechanics we can demonstrate that the solar system is arriving at the end of a great voyage.

“Truthfully, I say unto you that every voyage of the solar system around the zodiacal belt has always finished in a great catastrophe for our planet.

“As for this humanity, the scripture states: "For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." Therefore, "BABYLON THE GREAT (this present humanity), THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." will be destroyed, and from this perverse civilization of vipers, none will remain, not even one stone upon the other.”

The Avatara Kalkin and Buddha Maitreya
Sophika
I wish people would start to understand how thought works. I hope you all do not believe in this, collective thought can be dangerous. Thought is energy and energy is very real and destructive because thought materializes.

Here is a good example:
"People who pursue spiritual growth pay a lot of attention to thoughts, unaware of what feelings they originate from. Thoughts by themselves do not occur. They are always built from feelings. For an example: After many days of rain the river started rising. People saw danger and their thoughts were built from fear of the flood. Fortunately, the threat passed but thoughts would necessarily be manifested in the future in accordance with the laws of the human psyche. In other words, forgotten thoughts that originated from the fear of the flood might manifest for a person in the near future by the flooding of the house or another undesirable event pertaining to water. Since fear is a destructive feeling, all thoughts born to it must manifest for a person in some form of destruction externally as certainly as - under normal and healthy conditions - a child must be born to a pregnant woman. "

Sophika
Richdog
QUOTE(Sophika @ Dec 30 2004, 02:51 AM)
I wish people would start to understand how thought works. I hope you all do not believe in this, collective thought can be dangerous. Thought is energy and energy is very real and destructive because thought materializes.

Here is a good example:
"People who pursue spiritual growth pay a lot of attention to thoughts, unaware of what feelings they originate from. Thoughts by themselves do not occur. They are always built from feelings. For an example: After many days of rain the river started rising. People saw danger and their thoughts were built from fear of the flood. Fortunately, the threat passed but thoughts would necessarily be manifested in the future in accordance with the laws of the human psyche. In other words, forgotten thoughts that originated from the fear of the flood might manifest for a person in the near future by the flooding of the house or another undesirable event pertaining to water. Since fear is a destructive feeling, all thoughts born to it must manifest for a person in some form of destruction externally as certainly as - under normal and healthy conditions - a child must be born to a pregnant woman. "

Sophika
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Oh jeez I lose faith daily in this forum to provide any sort of rationality. I have never seen such a collection of crackpots who 100% believe they are 'infallible' and 'enlightened' in one place, and who fight overwhelming logic with underwhelming faith and pinpoint-accurate recitals of myths, religion, and hearsay. Truly frightening. unsure.gif
Sophika
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Oh jeez I lose faith daily in this forum to provide any sort of rationality. I have never seen such a collection of crackpots who 100% believe they are 'infallible' and 'enlightened' in one place, and who fight overwhelming logic with underwhelming faith and pinpoint-accurate recitals of myths, religion, and hearsay. Truly frightening.

Dear Richdog,
you can ignore those posts that you do not find "enlightening", it's a free county.

Your advice in describing people as "crockpots" can leave you with no friends at all when they find out what you think of them.

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Truly frightening.

what are you scared of exactly?

Actually, I understand you because it is difficult to find light and happiness if you let those things cloud you.
Mr. 420
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Oh jeez I lose faith daily in this forum to provide any sort of rationality.  I have never seen such a collection of crackpots who 100% believe they are 'infallible' and 'enlightened' in one place, and who fight overwhelming logic with underwhelming faith and pinpoint-accurate recitals of myths, religion, and hearsay.  Truly frightening.  unsure.gif
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You can stay at my bomb shelter if your scared.
Richdog
QUOTE(Sophika @ Dec 30 2004, 03:41 AM)
Actually, I understand you because it is difficult to find light and happiness if you let those things cloud you.
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I have light and happiness, why do you presume I don't? I have a good life, lol. And my friends don't generally run on half-baked theories and loony idealogy that I would call them crackpots, they are generally pretty sane and rational (yet still open-minded).

Sophika I wouldn't call you a crackpot iof I did not genuinely believe you were one. And trust me I honestly do... someone has to say it because I assume others are thinking it.

Is It 4:20 Yet?, I'll take the shelter please.
Uversa
Richdog, I dont think you are obliged to say anything, especially on the behalf of others, it matters not about what other poeple think.

And as Sophika said, it is a free country, you do not have to listen, I can only say that she is 100% correct, thought is enery and energy is very real, you control your reality.
Richdog
QUOTE(Uversa @ Dec 30 2004, 12:55 PM)
Richdog, I dont think you are obliged to say anything, especially on the behalf of others, it matters not about what other poeple think.

And as Sophika said, it is a free country, you do not have to listen, I can only say that she is 100% correct, thought is enery and energy is very real, you control your reality.
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If it is a free country then I am also 100% aloud to listen and give an opinion, whether it agrees or not. It is an open forum, if you post theories that are highly debateable with little or no proof beyone anecedotes and circumstancial evidence and claim they are "100% correct" then you will always be countered. Luckily there a re a few sane, yet open-minded poeple here like Hotoke and Stellar and others that say what they mean and don't pull any punches. w00t.gif
Uversa
Maybe the word 'sane' in your language can be translated to 'Unaware or uninformed'.
Richdog
QUOTE(Uversa @ Dec 30 2004, 07:20 PM)
Maybe the word 'sane' in your language can be translated to 'Unaware or uninformed'.
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Yes, it would be easy for you to say that wouldn't it. We are merely unimformed... hmm... good one! rolleyes.gif
Uversa
So you know these things for a fact, without a shadow of a doubt, not a possibility of being wrong, I see.
Hotoke
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Oh jeez I lose faith daily in this forum to provide any sort of rationality. I have never seen such a collection of crackpots who 100% believe they are 'infallible' and 'enlightened' in one place, and who fight overwhelming logic with underwhelming faith and pinpoint-accurate recitals of myths, religion, and hearsay. Truly frightening

I completely agree with you but


the paranormal attracts paranormal people
marslight
Will no one rid me of these pompous, psycho-ceramic gasbags?
__Kratos__
Humans will cause their own problems and it will probably never stop.
Asterix
Is there a reason, I wonder, this thread hasn't been closed yet? I fail to see how it fits in the "Ancient mysteries and alternative history" anymore. Heck, I even fail to see how it fit in the first place, not just now!
Athenian
The Southeast Asian calamity is not the only earthquake that has happened recently.
There were several other very minor earthquakes around the globe where there have never been any earthquakes for a loooong time... hmm.gif

Nature in its defence has just declared war on humanity.

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Is there a reason, I wonder, this thread hasn't been closed yet? I fail to see how it fits in the "Ancient mysteries and alternative history" anymore. Heck, I even fail to see how it fit in the first place, not just now!


Ancient prophecies, warnings, and instructions are an ancient mystery...
The End/Great Change/Purification Day/Judgement Day/WW3/Grand Finale of the world is alternative history...
Dannielle
[B] well i'm only 13 and don't know nuch about this sort of stuff but lately have been quite interested in it because of the tsanami in Indonisia.i was watching this show the other day and it said by the year 2100 the oceans would have rised 1 metre, there is going to be heaps of earthquakes and tidal waves that are going to wipe out heaps of people and people will just be dieing because of the heat. I believe that in the end the earth will just blow up into a big fire ball. i don't know but i would really like to find out. i think humans should really start to change thier ways.
thanks 4 listening
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jonas
Loge, you are an attention-seeking nut. You are probably not capable of impressing people in the real world, so we have to put up with your inflated sense of self-importance here.

But most importantly, you have used a lot of stolen images and text in your posts which could get this site into trouble for unauthorized publication or copyrighted material. Usually there is a certain degree to which people "look the other way" about stuff like that on forums/auctions/etc, but your abuse of this has been far too prolific from what I have seen here. Cut it out.

For the good of U-M.com
Loge
QUOTE(jonas @ Jan 5 2005, 02:27 AM)
Loge, you are an attention-seeking nut.  You are probably not capable of impressing people in the real world, so we have to put up with your inflated sense of self-importance here.

But most importantly, you have used a lot of stolen images and text in your posts which could get this site into trouble for unauthorized publication or copyrighted material.  Usually there is a certain degree to which people "look the other way" about stuff like that on forums/auctions/etc, but your abuse of this has been far too prolific from what I have seen here.  Cut it out.

For the good of U-M.com
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Listen scaredy cat! happy.gif

If this thread is cut because of fear, it won’t change anything!

Do you think that the tsunami happened because of this thread?

Nature will continue its devastating path whether this thread exists or not!

This humanity will disappear from the five continents little by little, despite theories and beliefs!

It is sad to see how humanity is pleased with lies and disappointed with facts! hmm.gif

There is only one way to escape from this impending doom and it is through a psychological transformation that everyone has to perform independently; no matter what you believe.

If we eliminate from our interior hatred, anger, lust, slander, drunkenness, cruelty, egoism, calumny, envy, conceit, pride, etc., we will create, by the simple Law of Psychological Affinities, a better society and we will be more capable to understand natural phenomena. This new psychological birth would definitely bring upon a better technological, economical and social change. happy.gif

Therefore, if we really want a psychological transformation, the first thing we must understand is that each one of us (whether black or white, blonde or brunette, ignorant or erudite, religious or atheist etc.), has a psychological level that contributes to the formation of this humanity, of this society. happy.gif

After Socrates was forced to drink hemlock poison, truth became very bitter! thumbsup.gif

jonas
QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
Listen scaredy cat! happy.gif

If this thread is cut because of fear, it won’t change anything! 

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Get your head out of the clouds and pay attention to what I said for a second - you are stealing peoples' property without any referencing.

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
Do you think that the tsunami happened because of this thread?
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Um.. what?

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
Nature will continue its devastating path whether this thread exists or not!
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True, this thread does not affect physical reality.

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
This humanity will disappear from the five continents little by little, despite theories and beliefs!
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Actually there are seven continents. And even Antarctica has settlements - despite your theories and beliefs!

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
It is sad to see how humanity is pleased with lies and disappointed with facts! hmm.gif
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I take it they don't let you out much. We have that to be thankful for.

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
There is only one way to escape from this impending doom and it is through a psychological transformation that everyone has to perform independently; no matter what you believe.
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This I actually agree with, to some degree. Put simply, if everybody was a little less selfish then the planet would be a pretty nice place to live.

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
If we eliminate from our interior hatred, anger, lust, slander, drunkenness, cruelty, egoism, calumny, envy, conceit, pride, etc., we will create, by the simple Law of Psychological Affinities, a better society and we will be more capable to understand natural phenomena.  This new psychological birth would definitely bring upon a better technological, economical and social change.  happy.gif
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You are copying and pasting an awful lot from this dodgy Gnostic site:
http://www.samaelgnosis.net/english/books/.../chapetr_01.htm
Just post some links if you want people to read this crap so much. Don't pass it off as your own work just to get respect or something.

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
After Socrates was forced to drink hemlock poison, truth became very bitter!  thumbsup.gif
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This is a really embarassing attempt at being poetic, and also has absolutely NOTHING to do with the rest of your post.

I don't think humanity will come to an end anytime soon, but ofcourse anything's possible.

When people believe this sort of thing based on the words of others, and without absolute physical proof or even trying to research anything to the contrary, I think it's fair to say that they believe it because they want to. There isn't anything wrong with this - it's called faith.

Personally, I have a lot of respect for people who are open to new ideas and possibilities. I know that's why I'm here.

Keep it real, Loge.



Loge
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Get your head out of the clouds and pay attention to what I said for a second - you are stealing peoples' property without any referencing.

Um.. what?

True, this thread does not affect physical reality.

Actually there are seven continents.  And even Antarctica has settlements - despite your theories and beliefs!

I take it they don't let you out much.  We have that to be thankful for.

This I actually agree with, to some degree.  Put simply, if everybody was a little less selfish then the planet would be a pretty nice place to live.

You are copying and pasting an awful lot from this dodgy Gnostic site:
http://www.samaelgnosis.net/english/books/.../chapetr_01.htm
Just post some links if you want people to read this crap so much.  Don't pass it off as your own work just to get respect or something.

This is a really embarassing attempt at being poetic, and also has absolutely NOTHING to do with the rest of your post.

I don't think humanity will come to an end anytime soon, but ofcourse anything's possible. 

When people believe this sort of thing based on the words of others, and without absolute physical proof or even trying to research anything to the contrary, I think it's fair to say that they believe it because they want to.  There isn't anything wrong with this - it's called faith. 

Personally, I have a lot of respect for people who are open to new ideas and possibilities.  I know that's why I'm here.

Keep it real, Loge.


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I have a lot of respect for intelligent people who are open to revolutionary ideas for the awakening of their human possibilities, and this is why I am posting their writings here. thumbsup.gif
InSearch
QUOTE(jonas @ Jan 6 2005, 10:48 PM)
QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
Listen scaredy cat! happy.gif

If this thread is cut because of fear, it won’t change anything! 

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Get your head out of the clouds and pay attention to what I said for a second - you are stealing peoples' property without any referencing.

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
Do you think that the tsunami happened because of this thread?
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Um.. what?

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
Nature will continue its devastating path whether this thread exists or not!
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True, this thread does not affect physical reality.

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
This humanity will disappear from the five continents little by little, despite theories and beliefs!
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Actually there are seven continents. And even Antarctica has settlements - despite your theories and beliefs!

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
It is sad to see how humanity is pleased with lies and disappointed with facts! hmm.gif
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I take it they don't let you out much. We have that to be thankful for.

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
There is only one way to escape from this impending doom and it is through a psychological transformation that everyone has to perform independently; no matter what you believe.
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This I actually agree with, to some degree. Put simply, if everybody was a little less selfish then the planet would be a pretty nice place to live.

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
If we eliminate from our interior hatred, anger, lust, slander, drunkenness, cruelty, egoism, calumny, envy, conceit, pride, etc., we will create, by the simple Law of Psychological Affinities, a better society and we will be more capable to understand natural phenomena.  This new psychological birth would definitely bring upon a better technological, economical and social change.  happy.gif
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You are copying and pasting an awful lot from this dodgy Gnostic site:
http://www.samaelgnosis.net/english/books/.../chapetr_01.htm
Just post some links if you want people to read this crap so much. Don't pass it off as your own work just to get respect or something.

QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 7 2005, 02:11 AM)
After Socrates was forced to drink hemlock poison, truth became very bitter!  thumbsup.gif
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This is a really embarassing attempt at being poetic, and also has absolutely NOTHING to do with the rest of your post.

I don't think humanity will come to an end anytime soon, but ofcourse anything's possible.

When people believe this sort of thing based on the words of others, and without absolute physical proof or even trying to research anything to the contrary, I think it's fair to say that they believe it because they want to. There isn't anything wrong with this - it's called faith.

Personally, I have a lot of respect for people who are open to new ideas and possibilities. I know that's why I'm here.

Keep it real, Loge.
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I think Lodge will say something like this: Thruth is something that we need experience. So go experience it grin2.gif . He just told you how. Therefore you (or anyone in that matter) can not disprove what he is sayin beacuse you have not taken the appropiate steps to experience what he is telling you. And untill you take those steps you will be in the dark to what he is trying to tell you. So therefore you are unable to prove or disprove.
Yea im keeping it real homie. out....
Mekorig
Well, after reading the whole nine pages of the mix of christian, indu, chinese, new age, esoteric, pagan and other religions mumbo jumbo, and after seeing the whole pages of copy/paste texts, i came to the conclution that you are a person whit soo much spare time. Your spechh is equal of those jerks that think that they have the absolute truth, and everyone else are "unenlighted". If you want, make a page whit your theories, but dont pullute this forum,please.

PD: Yes, i am an evil atheist who belives in hard proven science, muajajajajajajajajajajacof cof cof...
CDHB
This forum should be open to everyone who has a resonable point of view. Everyone can bring something different to a thread, however acting like you know-everthing and everyone else is wrong isn't reasonable and neither is quoting without sitation.
Loge
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Hi guys (CDHB, Mekorig,InSearch and rest of Mice)

The truth about the topic written in this post is something that you will experience sooner or later. Believe me! hmm.gif

The cat is the truth that will soon face all of you, mice! This is the only reason why you dislike me, ehh? unsure.gif

But, this is how nature's laws are, what can I say! blush.gif
InSearch
QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 10 2005, 05:24 PM)
user posted image
Hi guys (CDHB, Mekorig,InSearch and rest of Mice)

The truth about the topic written in this post is something that you will experience sooner or later.  Believe me! hmm.gif

The cat is the truth that will soon face all of you, mice!  This is the only reason why you dislike me, ehh? unsure.gif

But, this is how nature's laws are, what can I say!  blush.gif
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dontgetit.gif LOL.. Dam it Lodge. I was being serious. I can understand you. I too was awaken to the path of the razor edge. and Im sayin its something you need to experience; thats why no one comprehends here. I for one appriciate your theories(or your cut and pastes) so keep up posting beacuse material like yours is unimaginable.
later amigo.
dantheman2435
Several well placed nukes.. the plates seperate, earth goes boom.
Basil McNasil
QUOTE(Loge @ Jan 6 2005, 11:11 AM)
QUOTE(jonas @ Jan 5 2005, 02:27 AM)
Loge, you are an attention-seeking nut.  You are probably not capable of impressing people in the real world, so we have to put up with your inflated sense of self-importance here.

But most importantly, you have used a lot of stolen images and text in your posts which could get this site into trouble for unauthorized publication or copyrighted material.  Usually there is a certain degree to which people "look the other way" about stuff like that on forums/auctions/etc, but your abuse of this has been far too prolific from what I have seen here.  Cut it out.

For the good of U-M.com
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Listen scaredy cat! happy.gif

If this thread is cut because of fear, it won’t change anything!

Do you think that the tsunami happened because of this thread?

Nature will continue its devastating path whether this thread exists or not!

This humanity will disappear from the five continents little by little, despite theories and beliefs!

It is sad to see how humanity is pleased with lies and disappointed with facts! hmm.gif

There is only one way to escape from this impending doom and it is through a psychological transformation that everyone has to perform independently; no matter what you believe.

If we eliminate from our interior hatred, anger, lust, slander, drunkenness, cruelty, egoism, calumny, envy, conceit, pride, etc., we will create, by the simple Law of Psychological Affinities, a better society and we will be more capable to understand natural phenomena. This new psychological birth would definitely bring upon a better technological, economical and social change. happy.gif

Therefore, if we really want a psychological transformation, the first thing we must understand is that each one of us (whether black or white, blonde or brunette, ignorant or erudite, religious or atheist etc.), has a psychological level that contributes to the formation of this humanity, of this society. happy.gif

After Socrates was forced to drink hemlock poison, truth became very bitter! thumbsup.gif
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Everyone is ignoring the cold hard facts of this post here. We all need a psychological birth, a revolution of our own psyches for any real positive change to take place.
The problem is that everyone here is swinging, like a pendulum, between skepticism and belief. Materialists and spiritualists, believing and not believing etc.
The fact is that we are all contributing to the situation of this planet, we suffer and we're making everyone else suffer. Our symptoms are getting worse, look around, check out the media, our humanoid race has damned itself.
Nature works in the way that Loge has explained, it will clean itself eventually of the degenerating disease caused by the mind of humanity!
How are you going to contribute to this? By believing and disbelieving? Your house is dirty, whether you believe it or not, the moldy stinky filth still smells!!!

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Apparition
Sorry to say it, but you guys are just a bunch of kids looking for some attention.

It's not my fault mommy didnt hold you enough or daddy never told you he loved you.

Dont take it out on us. Crazed 13 year olds take over these kind of forums all too often.

If its going to happen, why even argue the point over and over?

Shouldnt you be wrapping yourself in tin foil in a hole in your backyard or something?

Point is, if its going to happen as you say. Make your main point and be done with it. Why bother with arguing about it? If it really didnt matter wether or not we believed your lunacy, why do you argue so?

Done.
lotus_spring
What can man do but pray?

Righteousness is the key, and Noah ws saved because he was righteous and contemplated Lord.
lotus_spring
I have read serveral stories when great floods are arriving, ususally a spiritual man will survive it. And when he tried to forwarn everyone about the flood or catastrophe, people would spit out laughter at him, sad indeed. I think it is difficult to change the fate of people..
lotus_spring
But I don't think the world will end, I believe parts of humankind will die and perish, and may the world be renewed.
Basil McNasil
QUOTE
Sorry to say it, but you guys are just a bunch of kids looking for some attention.

It's not my fault mommy didnt hold you enough or daddy never told you he loved you.

Dont take it out on us. Crazed 13 year olds take over these kind of forums all too often.

If its going to happen, why even argue the point over and over?

Shouldnt you be wrapping yourself in tin foil in a hole in your backyard or something?

Point is, if its going to happen as you say. Make your main point and be done with it. Why bother with arguing about it? If it really didnt matter wether or not we believed your lunacy, why do you argue so?

Done.



Sorry to say, but you are just a rigid old mind that cannot grasp anything outside your limited tunnel vision.
It's not my fault that when your children come to you to point out the truth, you reject them and ridicule them because of your own insecurities.
Don't take it out on us because we are telling you the truth of these matters; rigid old crones limit others all too often on these forums.
It is already happening, we're not arguing, we're reminding you of that.
Shouldn't you be off disciplining children and hurting small animals?  no.gif
Point is, it is happening.  Why do you waste your time asking us to be done with it when you are just fueling the conversation, as if you are making any intelligent debate here at all!  If you really didn't have some doubt in your mind, why would you ever bother hunting and pecking on your keyboard in this forum?
angry.gif
Hotoke
eh? whats this? the earth has been through much worse then what little stuff is happening right now, life has been almost extinct up to 4 times. religious zealots have been seeing the end of the world for what, 3000 years now. what is happening right now is nothing and no spiritual leader will save you.
SilverNitrate
if u look in the Webster’s New Twentieth Century Unabridged Dictionary all the world world means is In English, world is rooted in a compound of the obsolete words were, man, and eld, age; thus, its oldest meaning is "Age of Man." Its primary modern meaning is the planet Earth, especially when capitalized: the World. In this sense, a world map is a map of the surface of the Earth.
so when tey say end of the world they mean the end of man.
Loge
"As for this humanity, the scripture states:

"For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." Therefore, "BABYLON THE GREAT (this present humanity), THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." will be destroyed, and from this perverse civilization of vipers, none will remain, not even one stone upon the other.

"The Apostle Peter when prophesying said: "The heavens shall pass away with a great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the Earth also and the works therein shall be burned up." Certainly, the fire will be the first element to enter into action with the approaching of Hercolubus.

"The magnetism of this planet Hercolubus is so great that the magma (liquid fire) from within the interior of the Earth will start to surface. Then many volcanoes will start to emerge everywhere, and a great bonfire will be propagated from the north to the south poles.

"Nevertheless, before these events come to pass the Anti-Christ will perform true marvels. The Anti-Christ or the false science will perform miracles. He will make atomic rockets that will be able to travel to any planet of our solar system. Frightening weapons will be invented, and all the people will kneel to the ground worshipping the great beast and saying: "There is nothing like this official science, there is no one likened unto the beast, there is no one like the Anti-Christ."

"Few will be those who will hear the words of Christ. Within a short period of time people will not listen to this doctrine. People say in these times: "I want demonstrations, I have to see it in order to believe it, I only believe in what my physical senses inform me. Those mystical matters from the roof above no longer concern me. There is no one like the Beast" they say.

"Therefore, all of you who read this message in these very moments, let it be known that the times of the end have arrived." yes.gif

Excerpts from: The Aquarian Message
Basil McNasil
QUOTE(Hotoke @ Feb 28 2005, 11:33 AM)
eh? whats this? the earth has been through much worse then what little stuff is happening right now, life has been almost extinct up to 4 times. religious zealots have been seeing the end of the world for what, 3000 years now. what is happening right now is nothing and no spiritual leader will save you.
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The only spiritual leader that can save you is your own Being!
Don't you remember the God you have inside?
Didn't the Intimate One give you the ability to perceive this universe and make choices so as to cultivate the inherent powers that were your original birth right?
Why do we forget so often the real situation that we are in?
Did matter create you? Did matter give you the ability to perceive and experience life? NO no.gif
Then why do we worship the mind of materialism? Give unto Cesar that which belongs to Cesar! Give unto your Inner Being that which belongs to your Inner Being!!!
What is happening is not new, it has happened and will happen again. So, don't worry about the world when we haven't even cultivated a relationship with our own Being.
Loge has stated facts, to inspire contemplation...
"A rich man's wealth is in his city,
While the righteous' wealth is in his holy place"
Don't forget why you are here, don't forget your birth right you children of the sun of Aries.
dmgspycat
I know the earth goes through changes but there has always been a thread of humanity to go on. Also...there seems to be more global problems created by mans own hand like mucking up our atmosphere...i.e.-nukes in space, emissions from industrialisation, and space communications platforms burning"white holes" through the sky. A question?What contribution to earthquakes does the grounding of trillions of watts of power have ?
I'm sure an earthquake is bad enough but whos going to put out the oil fires and contain Nuclear power plants when everyones dead? Yikes.

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Basil McNasil
QUOTE(dmgspycat @ Feb 28 2005, 11:03 PM)
I know the earth goes through changes but there has always been a thread of humanity to go on. Also...there seems to be more global problems created by mans own hand like mucking up our atmosphere...i.e.-nukes in space, emissions from industrialisation, and space communications platforms burning"white holes" through the sky. A question?What contribution to earthquakes does the grounding of trillions of watts of power have ?
  I'm sure an earthquake is bad enough but whos going to put out the oil fires and contain Nuclear power plants when everyones dead? Yikes.
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Obviously a thread of humanity will go on, but they will not be just random people like you and me.
coolkid
i agree with u guys it wont happen for a long time i think i wont really happen when where dead.
Enlightenment
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"Few will be those who will hear the words of Christ. Within a short period of time people will not listen to this doctrine. People say in these times: "I want demonstrations, I have to see it in order to believe it, I only believe in what my physical senses inform me. Those mystical matters from the roof above no longer concern me. There is no one like the Beast" they say.


I pity the fools that desire logic and reasoning. They will be damned to hell for needing proof.

What kind of God punishes man for seeking truth through science? I'll tell you what kind. A false one.
STIX
wow, I AGREE!!
I believe this and I ultimatley believe it is not our fault...I think that this is still part of a long process which has been going on for millions of years, ever since a couple large asteroids pummelled our planet sending ever natural system into wack...you know when you enter a colder room and a shiver runs throught your body before you become used to the temperature? the same thing is happening with earth except there isnt just one shiver, there are many plateaus which this planet will go through before reaching its final point of equilibrium.
Threshold points must first be reached before the planetary shiver occurs, then we will be on the next plateau for another 10 000 years or so until the next threshold is reached and it happens again, unless this is the last time.
Basil McNasil
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you know when you enter a colder room and a shiver runs throught your body before you become used to the temperature? the same thing is happening with earth except there isnt just one shiver, there are many plateaus which this planet will go through before reaching its final point of equilibrium.


Planetary shivers? This is your decadent science?


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I pity the fools that desire logic and reasoning. They will be damned to hell for needing proof.

What kind of God punishes man for seeking truth through science? I'll tell you what kind. A false one


What is being said is that the intellectual primates are limited due to the fact that we are only capable of perceiving phenomena through the five senses.
If one was able to awaken the latent powers of the Being, the internal senses (clairvoyance, clairaudience, intuition, telepathy, etc) then we would be able to prove and experience a subtle form of natural phenomena in a scientific and analytical way. The problem is that the mind has been trained long and hard to reject anything that doesn't fit into its limited scopes. Thus, we only believe in that which is perceivable by the five senses--which to the esotericist is the blindest faith imaginable. sleepy.gif
Hotoke
shoot yourself in the head or poke yourself with knife and see how matter gave you life.
Basil McNasil
QUOTE(Hotoke @ Mar 2 2005, 05:45 AM)
shoot yourself in the head or poke yourself with knife and see how matter gave you life.
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The physical body is not myself. What we are is the psyche, the soul. How can you shoot a soul in the head or stab psyche with a knife?
The physical body is just a material vehicle for the psyche. It is the Spirit that has breathed life into this physical body to give the psyche the chance to reach intimate union with the Spirit. yes.gif
dmgspycat
All you jesus nuts need to stop telling people they are going to hell...what is wrong with you people? If there is a god then I think being a good person will suffice. Too long have self righteous pukes used the bible and jebus to slam and rail against the rest of the world. How many peoples and kingdoms have died by the sword in the name of your adorable jebus? You people think you have the right to usurp yourselves over others ? Because the bible says so? I strongly disagree. Grow up. This world needs spirituality not religion. Religion is man-made. Spirituality is cultivated over a life-time. Learn the difference.
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