I hope all of you will have a time to read this link or
copy it before it disappears on the web.

http://www.geocities.com/killer_robot_jetplanes/

I want to think that this is all a propaganda against
our government or just a sick joke floating around
in the world wide web. I hope so. Wether its true
or not its still entertaining to read.

Any comments and opinions about this is very welcome.

Well, the first thing that came into my mind after reading it, was that its title could be something like "The encyclopedia of conspiracies". I mean, whatever crazy theory somebody has had in the last 4 years, it's taking form into these lines.

Personally, I don't think there is much truth behind these allegations. The theory that some agency or the Goverment itself tries to develop unmanned planes designed exclusively for suicide missions, lacks both credibility, evidence to support it, and most of it all, logical foundation. To put it simply, if you have some crazy plan to conquer the world *insert here voice of Pinky&Brain* or to follow a certain political black agenda that would need a suicide plane mission, what could possibly be more simple and fail-safe than getting someone to actually fly the plane and sacrifice himself. There are many, and I mean, many agents whose duty is to do exactly that, sacrifice themselves (or anyway, accept missions with extremely slim chances of survival)

The chances that some group/agency/goverment/company would invest money, time and resources on a plan so far-fetched (which by the way should be remained an absolute secret) is very unlikely.

Plus, that it's one thing to develop and construct 20-feet long spy unmanned planes, and another to fly remotely, navigate, perhaps even land, a 100-feet plane that carries 4000 gallons of fuel.

But you were right, it was entertaining to read

There seems to be some compelling evidence against the US government conspiracy.

However, there are a few quotes which could easily mean something else.

This is a good example of why conspiracies began to accumulate with 911 attacks:


Before anyone comments, I suggest they also read the links within the site.

The link doesnt work for me.... but from what I hear in this thread, it seems to be talking about robot planes that would fly into targets, and Im asking myself "Why?"
We already have cruise missiles...

Stellar,

Here's one thing you can do if the link doesn't work.

Type on Google search ....." killer robot jetplanes"

That will give you a lot of websites for references too.

These idiotic theories of missiles into the Pentagon (and WTC building 7) are so far-fetched they border on self-ridicule. But they do provide comic relief, especially since their adhrents are very vocal, and take them(and themselves) so seriously.

Comic relief comes from reading 'bend me over sideways' comments such as yours.
Why don't you read what is actually being said...suggested even...It's not just about a missile hitting the Pentagon and/or 'pod people' theories. Many people, including those who lost loved ones and those involved directly in the investigations, are not content with what is being said to them by a government ruled over by proven liars, cheats and killers.
As I have said before: If people like yourself are happy to accept the official story and that you trust what it is you believe...then that is fine by me.

Vimjams

Right on cue...

You turn 9-11 into a joke with every word you write about it.

Which only sad little automatons like yourself find funny

vimjams

*cough* Redneck, vimjams....cool it please, lets not start a flame skirmish here.

Vimjams try posting some compelling evidence from the site, if you want Redneck and the other skeptics to believe, as I have done. I'll help you out.

I also noticed Redneck is from the US...

More evidence that the US government is two-faced:


9-11 Victims fighting back against US government:

Blue-Scorpion...As much as I agree with you I am under attack for posting 'crap' ...When I find something I'll post it.
It seems that there are people here on this board (monitors included) that don't approve of the posting of material from sites other than (pro-American, pro-war and pro 'official' 911). Not that this really bothers me...But I keep getting suspended for my apparent 'flaming' when the items I do post appear to force these people to behave in a most offensive and childish manner...Resulting in their 'crying' and myself getting a 'ticking off'.

You see...It's all about the way you're supposed to say things...I mean, don't have any conviction in your beliefs because it'll upset those who disagree with you.

Have a gander at this

http://rense.com/general18/myss.htm
http://www.rense.com/general24/t500.htm
http://www.rense.com/general58/podd.htm

Even Rense.com is attacked for being less than reputable...Now that is a joke.

Bush is a 'puppet' (a goon) He and his neo-con regime colleagues are just a bunch of sycophants employed to 'hoodwink' the American people into believing that their future and welfare is paramount.
A large and growing number of Americans themselves actually have their suspicions, and voice them. That is why the US freedoms fought for and (thought of as embossed within their constitution) are gradually being eroded...under their noses and disguised as that 'flag-waving' euphoria which grips so many of them.

Vimjams

I'm familiar with lots of unscrupulous that things the government did during the cold war. If anything, they prove that the government is too incompetent to carry out such a complex and effective deception campaign. They couldn't even pull off a simple amphibious assault in the Bay of Pigs. They couldn't keep a simple break-in secret at the Watergate. They couldn't keep Iran-Contra secret and they can't keep the nature of our operations against our worst enemies secrets(e.g. the newspaper revalation that we were eavesdropping on UBL's satelite phone in the late 90's that caused him to use other forms of communication). There are few real secrets in government. Everything leaks out. If it didn't, intelligence officers and journalists would be out of a job.

If "they" wanted to justify a war in Afghanistan, a single aicraft into the world trade center would be sufficient. Two planes and the total destruction of the towers would have been more than sufficient. A strike on the Pentagon would have been overkill. The more people involved in the conspiracy, the more likely it is that someone will leak something. If George Bush wanted to ensure his reelection and was willing to launch a terrorist attack on our own country towards that end, the incident would have been timed for 2004, not 2001. If the government was capable of masterminding this massive, multi-agency coverup and conspiracy, then I would imagine that they would be more than capable of planting a few chemical weapons in Iraq and/or fabricating a convincing connection between Iraq and Usama bin Laden.

Then there's the ridiculous assertion that it was a missile, not a plane, that hit the Pentagon. First of all, even if you buy into the theory that the shadowy figures in the government engineered the 2001 attacks, it does not require that the aircraft be replaced with a missile. From the perspective of a conspirator, hitting the Pentagon with a missile was both completely unnecessary and extremely risky.

One person(who has probably never heard a missile) saying "it sounded like a missile" does not make it a missile. It was a plane. There were witnesses. If you count the people who saw a plane approaching(but not hit), there were hundreds of witnesses. It knocked over streetlamps. There's photographs of this. There were people in the Pentagon itself that saw the plane coming. There were people on the road who saw it happen. There were emergency workers who pulled pieces of the plane out of the ruins, parts of seats, cockpits other airline equipment. There's photographs of this, too. There was a multi-agency forensic team that identified the remains of the passengers through tissue samples. All of them would have to have been part of any cover-up for it to be effective.

And finally there's this:



That is what you would expect to see from an explosion of a large amount of fuel: a big, billowing orange-red fireball. High explosives - bombs, missiles, artillery - usually generate just a flash followed by a dark cloud of dirt and dust. HE makes a big-ass boom and kicks up a lot of dust, but very little fire. Movies use fuel-heavy explosions to generate a fireball similar to what you see in that surveillance tape for dramatic effect, not realism. And yes, I have seen bombs, artillery and other ordnance detonate.

I take it you've never seen a fuel air bomb...

No, I've never seen one. But if that had been an FAE witnesses would have seen a cloud of vapor prior to the explosion. Instead, they saw a plane. And the damage to the building would have been different. It would have flattened objects underneath it, not punched a hole in the building.

edited to add: The vacum generated would have pulled loose objects into the area of detonation, not propelled them away from it. That kind of debris pattern would have been easy to identify by investigators.

True, but i was just adding that comment to say that a fuel-air bomb can cause a fireball akin to that picture. However fuel-air bombs are usually detonated a few feet above ground and not on sides of buildings.

Very good piece Redneck...Very well presented. However,

D-Day was kept successfully secret...And the truth about WMD in Iraq were kept successfully secret (until it was too late to do anything about it) The development of the Atomic bomb was kept successfully secret...British government's 'sell-out' to Europe is kept successfully secret...A whole host of things (including those few you mention) are kept successfully secret until they eventually come out into the open...That is what a 'secret' is...You don't know about it until it is no longer a secret...Everything else is just guessing...Educated or otherwise.
Likewise, the whole truth about 911...the involvement and complicity of certain 'shadowy figures' and not so shadowy members of the US government will eventually come to light.

You have convinced me that it wasn't a missile that hit the Pentagon...But then, I never actually believed (nor advocated) the notion that it was.

Vimjams


PS If you haven't seen it yet...I apoligise for the mistake I made in another post.

Check me if I am reading this wrong---the website said "150 years of of US Military Remote-Control Aircraft"

Considering we have only had aircraft for 100 years, and remote control technology is fairly new (I remember a beta VCR I had as a kid that had a "remote control" that was connected by a wire to the VCR to transmit the signal).

This has to be a joke, right?

Independent1...It does...This is surely a scripting error. If you look further down the page you'll see a link using the figure (100 years) which I just took to mean 100 years of research into flight and including 'remote controlled' aircraft.
Nevertheless...Well spotted. You win the lollipop.

Vimjams

vimjams: What do you make of OBL admitting responcibility for 9/11?

A complete list I've copied from http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/binladen_questions.html




Stellar...Honestly, what did you expect me to say? However, I'll get back to you with some more when it unfolds.

Vimjams

Here is the contents from this site:
http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/LEVY.html

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO CHANDRA LEVY

During the summer of 2001, the BIG story was the mysterious disappearance of
Chandra Levy on May 1, 2001. Levy had been romantically linked to California congressman Gary Condit. Rumors swirled about Condit's perverse sexual appetite, and how Levy had been done away with, directly or indirectly, by Condit, to keep her from ruining his family and career. However, there is an even more sinister side to this story.
On September 11, 2001, Gary Condit, Chandra Levy, and all the attention they had recieved all that summer, came crashing down along with the World Trade Center Towers. In March 2002, Condit lost his bid for re-election. The remains of Levy mysteriously appeared May 22 2002, over a year from the day she disappeared. How strange, her "Skull and Bones" miraculously appeared in a wooded area in Washington's Rock Creek Park, an area that was supposedly thoroughly searched by police officials shortly after her disappearance, by a man whose dog was supposedly looking for turtles. Most of the incriminating evidence was long gone due to the effects of time. Whatever coverage this once big story had recieved came to an end. As with so many other stories, the Corporate Media gave us the Official Party Line when it came to the Levy story, but this story has many layers, and like an onion, the more layers you unravel, the more it stinks.

After September 11, 2001, people began to remark that all of the attention given the Levy case up to the 9-11 attacks was a blatant example of how the media focuses on trivial events in pursuit of ratings. However, believe it or not, the murder of Levy, and the "911 EMERGENCY DAY" attacks, may be directly related. The timing of her disappearance with the September 11 terrorist attacks, as well as the McVeigh execution, and the circumstaces in her life just prior to her abduction and murder, casts a dark cloud over the entire Chandra Levy Case. Evidence indicates that the 24 year old Chandra Levy was an agent working for a renegade faction of the MOSSAD, Israel's top spy agency.

Chandra was good looking, and that was an asset. She was known as a thrill seeker, and wanted to become a latter day Mata Hari, a World War One spy who infiltrated high levels of military commands. Even as a teen, Chandra liked to volunteer to assist the local police in her home town. She would participate in "sting operations", trying to catch local businesses selling alcohol to minors. Those who knew her say she dreamed of becoming a covert operative with the CIA when she grew up. Just weeks before she vanished, Levy took a trip to Israel. Photos of her in Israel later appeared in Time and other major publications. According to a former MOSSAD agent who wishes to remain anonymous, "Operation Dumb Eagle" is the code name for the spy agency's extensive efforts to infiltrate top levels of the U.S. government through the placement of American Jews in sensitive positions. Part of "Operation Dumb Eagle" is the recruitment, training and placement of attractive Jewish coeds as U.S. Interns.

Chandra Levy had moved from from her home in Modesto California to Washington DC in September 2000 to begin an internship at the Federal Bureau of Prisons. After moving to Washington, Chandra was in a perfect position gather top secret information, not only at her job, but also by using her female powers of persuasion. In October 2000, she stopped by the offices of her hometown congressman, Gary Condit. They posed for pictures, and Condit asked Levy if he could see her again sometime. She accepted, and the romance began almost immediatly. The MOSSAD undoubtedly knew of Condit's wild sex life, and felt that Levy made the perfect honey trap. Condit's position as a senior member of the intelligence committee would make him a prime target for just such an operation. The sexual seduction of high level government officials by spies is usually of the illicit category, which provides foreign powers the added advantage of being able to better bribe and control the targeted victims, who, as it was with Condit, may be married with children.


While in California, Levy had served as an intern with then California Governor Gray Davis. There she discovered the private world of high level politicians, many of whom live wild satanic sex lives. As an intern in the Federal Bureau of Prisons during the winter and spring leading up to the date set originally, May 16, 2001, for the execution of Timothy McVeigh, who was the fall guy for a covert intelligence operation, she worked in the Public Affairs section, or Press Office.
Among other things, she helped arrange the media coverage at the prison for the execution of the alleged Oklahoma City bomber. Chandra Levy was in a perfect position to have access to highly classified data about McVeigh, that linked him to U.S. intelligence operations involving CIA sponsored terrorism, both here and abroad. Chandra would easily be able to obtain this information pertaining to McVeigh, and more importantly, related inside information to the impending 9-11 attacks. Her disappearance was conveniently just two weeks before McVeigh's scheduled execution. Right after Levy's disappearance, in early May, McVeigh's execution was delayed another month, until June 11, because it became public knowledge that the government had witheld information at his trial. The information that Chandra Levy possessed would have been far more damaging to them, and their desire to eliminate the potential loose cannon, McVeigh.

Chandra would also have easy access to information concerning members of the Bin Laden Family residing in the U.S., some of whom had national security contracts with the U.S. Government. Osama bin Laden, contrary to the lies put out by the corporate media, was not on the outs with his family, who secretly funded him. It's no coincidence that right after 9-11, the FBI arranged by plane to whisk many Bin Laden Family members out of the U.S.. Chandra had access to records detailing the clandestine business arrangements between the U.S. government and the Bin Laden Family, along with McVeigh's ties to CIA sponsored domestic and foreign terrorists, all of which would be of great interest to the Israeli government. As I've said, Gary Condit was a senior member of the House Select Committee on Intelligence, privy to closed door sessions dealing with covert operations of the spy community. Chandra was reportedly pumping Condit for hot information, in return for sexual favors. Condit later remarked in an interview with People magazine that Levy was fascinated with the McVeigh case, terrorism, and the middle east. "She was much more interested in those things than I was", Condit recalled. Condit demanded of Levy total discretion when it came to ANYTHING concerning their relationship. That included not only private information about his perverted sexual misconduct, but also any INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION she might come across in the course of their relationship.

Anyone "connecting the dots" would have to conclude that Chandra Levy had come upon some of the most incredible intelligence secrets in history, including the plan to use huge terrorist strikes in America to justify global wars, finance the military industrial complex, and justify and a police state here at home in a huge power grab. David Schippers, Chief Council for the House Judiciary Committee and head prosecutor responsible for conducting the impeachment against former President Clinton, has now gone public revealing that in the months BEFORE the 9-11 attacks, many FBI agents had come to him informing him about the impending attacks. These agents knew the names of the hijackers, the targets of their attacks, the proposed dates, and the sources of the terrorists' funding, etc., many months in advance of the 9/11 attacks. The FBI command pulled them off of their investigations into these terrorists and threatened them with the National Security Act. They told them that if they talked about any of the information pertaining to their investigations that they would be prosecuted. So many of them sought the council of Mr. Schippers wanting to get somebody in the U.S. government to take action against these terrorists before their plan could be implemented. Mr. Schippers talked to many Congressmen and Senators, and tried to get a hold of Att. Gen. John Ashcroft, all only to get the run-around.

Chandra Levy, through her sensitive position in the Federal Bureau of Prisons, through their computers and facilities, and human intelligence contacts, and through her intimate relationship with a congressman on the intelligence commitee, unearthed a dangerous group of details related to the coming 9-11 attacks, the same information the FBI agents had brought to Schippers. She had none of the restrictions the FBI agents had, or so she thought, and apparently was about to go public with the information. The Mossad had tried to warn American intelligence about their knowledge of the planned 9-11 attacks, and were met with indifference. Was at least some of the information they had, been obtained from their agent, the now missing Levy? It would seem highly likely.


ROCK CREEK PARK...SCENE OF THE CRIME
It would also seem that all of this would end Chandra Levy's life. Shortly after signing off of her computer at 1 pm, on May 1, 2001, she walked out of her apartment to meet someone at the Klingle Mansion, an old building now being used as a storage facility, in a remote section of Rock Creek Park, a large, forested area in Washington D.C. about 3 miles from Levy's apartment. A perfect spot, if you want no witnessess. At this point, she was murdered. Her body would eventually be discovered in a wooded area a short distance from this area. One of the last things she looked at on her computer on the day she disappeared was a map of this park, and specifically, Klingle Mansion.
On September 11, 2001, five Israelis were sighted atop a white panel van in New York City. They were using a video camera. This Israeli spy team videotaped the entire terrorist incident from START to FINISH. Nearby observers who clandestinely saw them were astonished to see the five men shouting joyously and jumping up and down as the explosions ripped through the towers and each building collapsed. These nearby witnesses phoned the NYC police and the FBI. The FBI came and arrested the five, who turned out to be Israelis carrying false visa papers. The five were stripped of their clothes, incarcerated in dark jail cells, and interrogated nonstop for hours by FBI agents. The FBI interrogators believed the five were Israeli MOSSAD spy agents. Their arrest alerted the FBI to the existence of some 200 Israeli "commandos" training at a warehouse in New Jersey. They and the five arrested were "employed" by a bogus moving company owned by an Israeli. After diplomatic intervention at the highest levels of the Israeli and U.S. governments, the NYC FBI squad was ordered to cease their investigation, release the five suspects, and turn them over to the Israeli Consul. They were immediately flown to Israel. It seems highly likely that these events were the result of advance intelligence information obtained by Chandra Levy, and passed on to Israel prior to her May 1st abduction.


Chandra was also friendly with a circle of Republicans that include George W. Bush's strategy chief, Karl Rove. Of course, not a lot of people knew, or know, that Chandra Levy went to Bush's January 20th, 2001 inauguration, had a seat in the VIP section, and attended one of the balls. There also was MORE sensitive material Chandra Levy had access to. For example, that the Bush Family, to protect themselves from jail, arranged for their business partner, Drug Kingpin Carlos Lehder, to disappear from the Federal prison system. He was allowed to disappear from the U.S., thanks to the corruption and connivance of the highest levels of the U.S. government. Coral Talavera, the wife of Lehder, in an on-the-record interview, has made it clear that Lehder is out of prison, working for the United States government, and is directly connected to the CIA, and the U.S. Treasury. This scenario was well supported by statements from a number of credible sources, including reporters, Congresswoman Maxine Waters, and Lehder's prosecutor, former U.S. Attorney Robert Merkle.

For the American Gestapo, that is, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, to have said for so long that they had no idea what happened to Chandra Levy is simply ridiculous. The truth is that they, early on, knew she was being used by the Mossad, to obtain top secret information. The lead FBI investigator in the Chandra Levy case is Special Agent Bradley J. Garrett. He is known as "The Fixer", because he is called in to find patsy's to take the blame for government murders. Notice a few details from his past: Garrett was the lead FBI investigator in the strange death of Clinton White House Deputy Counsel Vincent W. Foster. Foster's body was, like Levy's, found in a heavily wooded area near Washington D.C.. The official cause of death, touted from the outset as a suicide, was declared due to a gunshot fired into the mouth. The weapon, said to be a black 1913 Army Colt .38 Special six-shot revolver, was said to have been found in Foster's hand. It is significant, therefore, to note that x-rays of the initial autopsy of Vincent Foster's corpse are listed by Federal coroners as now being "missing", and that no one in the Foster family recalls there being a firearm of that model or appearance anywhere, ever, in their residence. Also, there was no blood found on the cuff, sleeve, or wrist of Foster, as would have been elicited naturally, from what they call "blowback", by a self-inflicted gunshot held close inside the soft-palate. Garrett helped to completly cover up these glaring inconsistencies.
Garrett was also the lead FBI investigator in the murder of Clinton White House intern, Mary Caitrin Mahoney. You see, A U.S. Secret Service Agent, assigned to checking doors at the White House, opened a door one night and found Hillary Clinton in a compromising sexual position with Ms. Mahoney, a known lesbian since her high school days. Hillary was furious and whacked him in the head with a metal ashtray. Ms. Mahoney was shot to death at a Starbucks Coffee Shop, right in the heart of Washington DC, a short time later. One wonders why a high-powered Washington FBI agent, with ties to the intelligence community, was involved in a case claimed to be a routine robbery murder case, supposedly committed by a small time criminal, one Carl Derek Cooper. After 54 hours of questioning by Garrett and another agent, Cooper signed a confession that he immediately repudiated as soon as he got to court. During his 54 hours of interrogation, Cooper had consistently denied the crime and volunteered several times to take a lie detector test. Most of the testimony against him was by agent Garrett, and based on Garrett’s representation of what Cooper had said during the interrogation. The questioning was not recorded or videotaped. Garrett had sucessfully arranged to blame the crime on a vulnerable nobody.

Chandra Levy had expected to stay on as an intern at the Federal Bureau of Prisons until September 2001. Her internship was abrubtly and unexpectedly ended just days before her disappearance. Also, her relationship with Condit had taken a sudden turn for the worse. Condit was trying to distance himself from Levy, and was becoming annoyed at her increasingly frequent and almost desperate calls. Clearly, both Condit and the BOP had been tipped off, and been made aware of her ties to the MOSSAD. Levy, in the course of her relationship with Condit, had developed an obsession for him, but the relationship was over. Chandra Levy undoubtedly felt betrayed by all concerned. She no longer had reason to hold back on all of the information she had gathered, and was almost certainly going to make it public.

Not only was Chandra Levy snuffed out to eliminate any risk of the impending 9-11 attacks, and the McVeigh information leaking out such a short time before his scheduled execution, but also to protect members of the Bush Family and their partnership with drug cartel baron Carlos Lehder and his disappearance from the Federal Prison System. With the Bush Family members, if this opened up widely and publicly, being subject to federal criminal prosecution for drug money laundering and treason. So, the Counter-Intelligence Division of the FBI was tapping her phone, and watching her very closely.

These incredible things prove that what is presented to us in the media is almost never what it would seem to be. Through her connections to the MOSSAD, through her internship with the Federal Bureau of Prisons, and access to top security information, and through her involvement with a Congressman, a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and having topmost security clearance, and the circumstaces in her life just prior to her abduction and murder, one could only conclude that Chandra Levy had knowledge of the Bush's and Carlos Lehder, the Timothy McVeigh matter, and, most importantly, the impending 9-11 attacks. Was she about to go public with it? It would seem beyond a shadow of a doubt. On the day before she disappeared, May 1, 2001, she left a message on the phone machine of a close family member. She said that there was something BIG that she needed to talk about, but she wouldn't say what it was, and she sounded nervous.


CHANDRA LEVY IN ISRAEL, JUST WEEKS BEFORE HER DISAPPEARANCE
To those who cannot believe all of this, I contend that you are not only ignoring the opinions of seasoned intelligence operatives, but also ignoring the indisputable truth that all of this is exactly how covert intelligence operations are, and have been conducted, for many years.
So exactly who killed Chandra Levy? Gary Condit, while obviously leaving much to be desired in his personal life, was probably little more than a dupe in all of this. He made the perfect villian, and the perfect fall guy. His sick private life gave him all the reason in the world to act suspicious in the glaring light of media attention. Al Martin, one of America's foremost government whistleblowers, and a retired Navy Lt. Commander, claims there were a mystery set of fingerprints found at the Chandra Levy murder scene. The fingerprints belong to a shadowy figure named Alejandro Martinez, a longtime CIA employee, and former CIA drug pilot during the Iran Contra operation. Martinez had ties to Oliver North. He's disappeared, and nobody knows where he's gone. When he went to buy some false identity papers, apparently because he needed to get out of the United States in a hurry, the match came up. There was obviously another dimension to this story, and you will never hear about it in the mainstream media. The facts point to only one conclusion. That Chandra Levy was the victim of a government hit, and Condit was used as a decoy patsy for a murder network that extends to the very heights of U.S. power.

Chandra Levy was used by everyone involved. She was doing her job, and the hottest intelligence secret of all time fell right into her hands. She was young, naive, and still believed that it was wrong to use mass terrorism as a psychological tool for political purposes. Unfortunately, for this, she paid the ultimate price. To say that the disappearance and death of Chandra Levy was more than the result of a sexual relationship gone bad, is a gross understatement, to say the least. Had she not vanished, it now seems likely that, not only the planned 9-11 attacks could have been stopped, but also that the resultant wars, and world wide chaos that we are now witnessing, would never have happened.

As with Waco, the OKC bombing, and of course 9-11, the establishment put their spin on the Levy story, and nothing more is said. The truth about Chandra Levy will never be told by the mainstream media. Condit lost his bid for re-election, the global wars are raging, with more being planned, and Chandra Levy is just a faded memory. Another lie told, another lie accepted. Mission accomplished. Let's move on. Do not make the mistake of thinking that September 11, 2001 happened the way they brainwashed you to think it did. And try to understand the true nature of the people who control this global government. Illusion is the name of their game, and they're quite skilled at it. They should be. It's a game they've been playing for such a long time.

Excellent article and to think that I actually would take the time to read it, is a great accomplishment for me.
But hey, no one said that the truth would come so easily.

This may be the real reasons as to why Canada did not take part in the War on Iraq.

Maybe the Canadian Government and RCMP knew something fishy was happening and didn't want their hands stained with the blood of their "big brother's" victims.

digitalprincess...A very informative article, which goes a very long way in exposing the mentality and criminal types governing the world we live in. It also reflects on the numbers of people that are willingly defending this disease.

Many thanks for the post

[Vimjams

i still can't seem to draw a link as to why the government or whoever would want to build planes to crash into things. The article on the 'killer robot planes' is grabbing for straws i think. Why would the goverment want to crash planes into anything anyway? It would increase the attention to the conspiracies about the dirty dealings of the government.

Only if that government actually cared what you thought about them...And besides ...
thetruthisoutthere..."attention to the conspiracies" how many people do you know of that have clout and influence, and actually believe in a 911 conspiracy?
Even with the hundreds of web sites tackling this subject and offering documents, equations and opinions...There still is little (if any) impact occurring...and, unfortunately the voices against such a conspiracy 'shout' louder (for now that is).

Vimjams

I didn't state 911 specifically, I meant why would they go to such lengths to crash into other things?

Maybe.....to increase more power and wealth and influence, just guessing.

Here is the actual video footage, i also post it in similar thread.

http://www.policestate21.com/911trailer.html

In reality....who really loses?

Since i have the computer, i find most accurate, most updated and
free media broadcasting is here...not in alphabet channels or even
newspapers. In this way, we can have various options not just
one source of information.

digitalprincess: I think you do an absolutely wonderful job...That is why governments (especially US) want the Internet controlled and policed more strictly. Nothing whatsoever to do with child porn, crime and terrorism...What scares them (governments) the most...Is the un-tapped free flow of information.

The "alphabet channels" (which are controlled) have been and remain the greatest and most 'credible' source of information for most people unfortunaly.

Vimjams