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Etymologically the word Man comes from the Sanskrit Manu, which means someone who has a mind. Mind in Sanskrit is MANAS.

The reader must know that Manu is not an individual but the collective humanity.
Now, the word MAN is always associated to HUMAN and the word BEING.

Etymologically the word Human comes from the two Sanskrit words HUM and MANAS.
HUM means: Deity, Spirit and Breath of Life
MANAS means: Mind

So, Human means: someone whose Deity, Spirit or Breath of Life expresses through the Mind

BEING means: cognizant existence, TO BE IN, BE – IN, in other words, to be cognizant of what is inside.

This is why it is written that the Man is the Microcosmos of the Macrocosmos; someone who reflects the cosmos or the universe within himself.

The Spirit is incorporeal; it is universal, cosmic and infinite. The Spirit is energy.
So, the HUM (universal, cosmic and infinite Spirit) united with MANAS (Mind) is what we call a HUMAN.

The Hubble Space Telescope (HST) website estimates that there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe. A recent German super-computer simulation estimates that the number may be as high as 500 billion!

So, the Human Being is the one who reflects and is cognizant of the universe within his mind (Manas).

No wonder why it is stated in the book of Genesis that the MAN or HUMAN BEING is made into the image of God (Spirit).

Conclusion: The millions of people on this planet are not Human Beings, but they could become humans if they perform a great psychological change.

Therefore, it is very empirical to establish theories about the origin of the human being when the true human being (with few exceptions) does not even exist on this planet.

It is possible that the human being existed in the beginning of this planet and that its descendants are the Apes and present Rational Mammals.

But to establish that the human being evolved from Apes based upon the fact that the feature of one face is similar to that of another is too shallow, so too as to suppose that the human being was made out of clay (without being aware that this is merely a symbol).

Now, tell me: Do you consider yourself to be a Human Being?
Mysteryman
Honestly, my definition of a human being...
Human being - a living organism on a universe that has the ability to think, understand life, have the ability to live through eating, drinking, and breathing, and go through the lifely process, such as being born, going through different stages, and eventually dieng.
Therefore, following my definition of a human being, we are human beings and this world is made of human beings.
Though I believe we are the only planet who has human beings. Other organisms on other planets and galaxies may not have the abilities we have, to think as smartly as we do...But we may never know...
Loge
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Nov 2 2004, 05:09 PM)
Honestly, my definition of a human being...
Human being - a living organism on a universe that has the ability to think, understand life, have the ability to live through eating, drinking, and breathing, and go through the lifely process, such as being born, going through different stages, and eventually dieng.
  Therefore, following my definition of a human being, we are human beings and this world is made of human beings.
  Though I believe we are the only planet who has human beings. Other organisms on other planets and galaxies may not have the abilities we have, to think as smartly as we do...But we may never know...
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Soon millions of inhabitants of Africa, Asia and South America may die of starvation.
Gases released from aerosol sprays could put an end to the ozone layer of the Earth's atmosphere.

Some experts forecasted that after the year two thousand the subsoil of our Earth will be exhausted.

It has already been proven that marine species are dying due to pollution of the sea.
Unquestionably, at this rate, by the end of this century all the inhabitants of large cities will have to wear oxygen masks to protect themselves from fumes.

If pollution continues at this alarming pace, before long it will be impossible to eat fish. Living in totally infected waters, fish will become a serious danger to our health.
Beginning with the year two thousand it will be almost impossible to find a beach where one can swim in pure water.

Due to excessive consumption and exploitation of the topsoil and subsoil, soon the land will be unable to produce the agricultural products necessary to feed the world.

By contaminating the oceans with so much waste, poisoning the air with fumes from cars and factories, destroying the Earth with underground atomic explosions and the excessive use of elements harmful to the Earth's crust, clearly the ‘intellectual animal’ mistakenly called human being is subjecting the planet Earth to a long, appalling death, which will undoubtedly end in a great catastrophe.

It has been difficult for the world to cross the threshold of the year 2000 since the ‘intellectual animal’ is destroying the natural environment at breakneck speed.

The ‘rational mammal’ mistakenly called human being is intent on destroying the Earth, making it uninhabitable. Obviously he is succeeding.

As far as the sea is concerned, the nations of the world have clearly changed it into some sort of huge dump.

Seventy percent of the entire world's waste is going into the sea.
Enormous quantities of oil, all kinds of insecticides, numerous chemical substances, poisonous and neurotoxic gases, detergents etc., are annihilating all the species that live in the oceans.

Sea birds and plankton essential for life are being destroyed.

Without a doubt, the extermination of marine plankton is of incalculable severity, for it is this microorganism that produces 70 percent of the Earth's oxygen.

Scientific research has produced verifiable evidence that certain parts of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans are polluted with the radioactive waste of atomic explosions.
In capital cities of the world, and especially in Europe, they drink a fresh type of water, that they eliminate it, purify it, and later drink it again.

Drinking water goes through the human organism many times in large, ‘super-civilized' cities.

In the city of Cucuta, Colombia, near the Venezuelan border in South America, the inhabitants are obliged to drink the defiled water from the river that carries all the filth from the sewers of Pamplona.

I am referring emphatically to the Pamplonita River, which has been such blight for the 'Pearl of the North’ (Cucuta).

Fortunately, there is another aqueduct supplying water to the city; but people still have to drink the putrid water of the Pamplonita River.

Huge filters, gigantic machines and chemical substances attempt to purify the dirty waters of Europe's big cities. However, epidemics continue to break out because of the frequency with which this filthy waste water has passed through the human organism.

Famous bacteriologists have encountered all types of viruses, bacilli, pathogens, tubercular bacteria, typhus, small pox, larvae, etc., in the drinking water of all large capital cities.

Although it seems incredible, the poliomyelitis vaccine has been found in the water of treatment plants throughout Europe.

Moreover, the wastage of water is shocking. Modern scientists asserted that beginning with the year 1990 the ‘rational humanoid’ will die of thirst.

Worst of all is that the underground fresh water reserves are endangered by the abuses of the ‘intellectual animal’.

The merciless exploitation of oil wells continues to be fatal. Oil extracted from the Earth's interior gets filtered through the underground water routes, which then become contaminated.

Consequently, for more than a century, oil has polluted the Earth's subterranean water supply.

Obviously, a result of all this has been the death of vegetation and a multitude of people.

Let us talk briefly about the air, which is absolutely indispensable for the life of all creatures…

With every breath, our lungs take in one tenth of a gallon of air, which amounts to 3,170 gallons per day. Multiply this quantity by the four thousand five hundred million people living on the Earth, and we have an accurate amount of the daily intake of oxygen consumed by humanity. This does not take into account the oxygen consumption of all the other animals on the face of the Earth.

The total amount of oxygen we inhale is found in the atmosphere and comes from plankton, which we are now destroying with pollution, and also from vegetation photosynthesis. Unfortunately, the reserves of oxygen are being exhausted.

The ‘rational mammal’ mistakenly called human being, through his innumerable industries, is constantly diminishing the solar radiation essential for photosynthesis.

For this reason the quantity of oxygen actually produced by plants is significantly less than in the last century.

The gravest world tragedy caused by the ‘intellectual animal’ is that he continues to contaminate the sea, destroying plankton and exhausting the vegetation.

Regrettably, the ‘rational animal’ proceeds to destroy his oxygen sources.

The smog that the ‘rational humanoid’ is constantly discharging into the air is lethal and is endangering the life of Planet Earth.

Smog is not only exhausting the oxygen reserves, but it is also killing people.
It has been shown that smog causes strange, dangerous, incurable illnesses.

Smog impedes the entrance of sunlight and ultraviolet light, causing serious disorders in the atmosphere.

An era of climatic changes is approaching: glaciation, the advance of polar ice toward the Equator, terrifying cyclones, earthquakes, etc.

Beginning with the year 2000, some regions of the planet Earth will heat up, not because of the use of electrical energy, but because of its abuse. This will contribute to the revolution of the Earth's axis.

Soon the Poles will become the Earth's Equator and the Equator will end up at the Poles.

The Poles have begun to thaw out and a new great flood is approaching, preceded by fire.

Forthcoming decades will see an increase in carbon dioxide which will form a thick layer around the Earth's atmosphere.

Unfortunately, such a filter or layer will absorb thermal radiation and cause a deadly Greenhouse Effect.

The Earth's climate will become warmer in many areas, and this will melt the polar ice caps causing a shockingly rapid rise in the level of the oceans.

This is a very serious situation. While fertile soil is disappearing, two hundred thousand people who need to be fed are born every day.

Surely, the coming worldwide famine will be terrifying. It is already at our doorstep.
Nowadays, forty million people die of starvation every year because of a lack of food.

The criminal industrialization of the forest and the merciless exploitation of mines and oil wells are turning the Earth into a desert.

While it is certainly well-known that nuclear energy is fatal for humanity, the existence today of ‘death rays,’ 'microbial bombs,’ and many other terribly destructive and malignant elements invented by scientists is no less certain.

Unquestionably, the production of nuclear energy requires vast amounts of potentially uncontrollable heat, which can cause a nuclear disaster at any time.

To obtain nuclear energy requires enormous quantities of radioactive minerals of which we use only 30 percent. This is rapidly exhausting the world's subsoil.

The atomic waste that is left in the ground is horribly dangerous. A safe method for the disposal of atomic waste simply does not exist.

If gases were to leak from one of those atomic dumps, however minute the amount, thousands of people would die.

Contamination of food and water brings about genetic mutations and human monstrosities: creatures that are born deformed and abnormal. A serious nuclear accident occurred before the year 1999 that caused real alarm.

Certainly humanity does not know how to live. It has degenerated terribly and frankly, has sped towards the abyss.

Gravest of all these facts is that the factors of such desolation: starvation, wars, destruction of the planet on which we live, etc., also exist within us. We carry all these things inside, within our own psyche.
Kaj
Human spieces is the cancer of the World, better of without us, sad but true.
If we only had less brains, or more so we didnt destroy everything.
Like we do today.
Our only hope is that more humans get aware of this.
I confess, I am myself, many times, a part of this destruction, more or less, simply by living in the human society.
In agony, in pain, without a solution to this, I continue the human path, trying to, with small things to even the odds if just for a tiny, little bit.
Nobody
Me I am nobody. The label is the product of our need to communicate within a common set of ideals. However, to define a label then state that as proof for something not being the label is reducing your ability to reason to the level of a none thinking being.

Where do you "think" you came from?
Kaj
I dont know, but something went terrible wrong on the way here.
seeking
what has humans destroyed without a purpose, i honestly cant think of anything we as a whole have destroyed with no reason

cutting down rainforests so we can live in my opinion is the same as how a pack of lions will hunt down an antellope so they can eat (live)

even during times of war and we destroy buildings and other humans we are still doing it for a reason, the protection of our selves so we can live, its the same way a mother bear will kill an animal that she feels is threatening her cubs, but no one questions that, why do people question what us as humans do, we are doing it for the same general purpose, perhaps at larger scales but just because the scale is larger doesnt make it wrong

humans are the best thing that happened to this planet in my opinion, we all know what it takes for a planet to sustain life and what better than a life form take what the planet has given us and use 100% of it, thats like someone giving you a million dollar bill and not spending all of it and just saving it just to have, whats the point of having it if you dont use it?
seeking
^thats to what kaj said about humans being the cancer of the world
Loge
Gnostics know very well that the intellectual animal is not a human being.

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If we place the human being and the intellectual animal face to face,
we will find physical similarities.
However, the psychological processes of each one of them are completely different.

At the time of the end of the Lemurian Continent, which was situated in the past in the Pacific Ocean, some real humans who fell into animal generation became degenerated and mixed themselves with beasts of Nature.

Obviously, this is the origin of the Atlantean root race.

The present human root race descended from the trunk of Atlantis.

Therefore, this present root race that now lives on the face of the Earth carries within their psyche the outcome of the fatal mixture of humans and beasts.

Unquestionably, it is necessary to create the human being. The intellectual animal is not a human being.

Fortunately, the intellectual mammal bears the germs of the human being in his sexual glands.

Nevertheless, the availability to become a human is needed.

The sun is performing a tremendous experiment at this moment, in the test tube of Nature. The sun wants to create human beings.

In the time of Abraham, the prophet, the sun achieved the creation of a good quantity of humans.

During the first eight centuries of Christianity, a good ingathering of solar men was also achieved.

In these present times of the twenty first century, the Sun is making tremendous efforts in the test tube of Nature.

The Sun wants a new harvest of light for the Light.

Nevertheless, a revolution of the grain, of the seed, is needed, a conscious co-operation with the Sun.

The sexual reproductive system that the animals use, including the intellectual mammal mistakenly called man (human), is useless in order to create the human being.

The human being can never be created by means of the exclusively animal sexual reproductive system.

If the human being wants to be created, it is necessary to utilize the sexual system of human reproduction.

The power of Kriya-Shakti, through which the solar men reproduce themselves, is the unique power that, indeed, can create human beings.

In synthesis we will say that Psychogenesis (the creation of a true human being) is based on the phrase inscribed on the Temple of Delphi:

"I warn thee, whosoever thou art, Oh, thou who wish to probe the arcanes of nature, if thou do not find within thyself that which thou seek, neither shalt thou be able to find it outside. If thou ignore the excellencies of thy own house, how doth thou intend to find other excellencies? Within thee is hidden the treasure of treasures. Oh, man, know thyself, thus thou shalt know the Universe and its Gods!"
the master theologian
We are humans. I'm sure.
jpalz
My two cents on the theme... what makes us different from other animals, what makes us humans, is free will, wether you have or have the capacity to earn it (in this category I include babies, even unborn)
Mr. 420
[/QUOTE](Lodge @ Nov 3 2004, 01:03 AM)
At the time of the end of the Lemurian Continent, which was situated in the past in the Pacific Ocean, some real humans who fell into animal generation became degenerated and mixed themselves with beasts of Nature.
Obviously, this is the origin of the Atlantean root race.[QUOTE]


Obviously.

I tried reading your post. I tried making sense of it. I swear. It just don't work!!!!
We don't have enough power, captain!!! blink.gif

At first it sounds like you are going to explain how a true "Human Being" thinks and what makes us different, but then you start talking about Atlantis. Then the Sun starts making people have sex with light beams and some Pycho and his Sega Genesis.

There is no spoon. Slowly we are accepting this fact, and it does not make us very happy. It is indeed forgetful to induce the name of the Oracle without first introducing the very element that inspires the spoon. I am refereing of course to Pangea's number one bad-boy, the animal-vegatableoid. alien.gif

If when a number of these (animal vegatableoids) do reach the climax of the thousand year orgy-fest, only is it then when one could even begin to hope to wish to become even a fraction of the tinyest portion of the freckle on my nose. dontgetit.gif

Does this make us less human? If pricked do we not bleed? Is not our blood that which runs through the holy alter machine in neo-heaven? The true Gnostic Master knows that some blood, that in which pure milk chocolate has been injected, can taste good with fava beans and a nice ciante. ph34r.gif

So is all hope lost? Will the world be destroyed in a fiery cataclysm and only those who have the mark of the beast, air masks, panic rooms, H2s, spinner rims, and upgraded cable shall survive? What would you expect to pay for this knowledge? $200? $300? $500?!!!??? NO!!!! All this and more can be your for only 19 easy payments of $67.88!!! cat.gif

In conclusion I'm smart and your dumb. wub.gif
Asterix
I really don't understand why people say: "Human spieces is the cancer of the World, better of without us, sad but true.". No, it's sad but false. People have this misconception, that us, humans, are damaged goods, useless, worthless, capable only of destruction. Well, that's just $@%# (insert favourite expletive here). By our nature, us humans are good, kind, caring, creative, productive. We do lose our path, true, we are led to mistakes, true, and we do cause harm to ourselves and to others, because we are misguided sometimes.
But that's far from saying "better off without us"
Cradle of Fish
Humans are advanced apes.

Nuff said.
Loge
[QUOTE]At the time of the end of the Lemurian Continent, which was situated in the past in the Pacific Ocean, some real humans who fell into animal generation became degenerated and mixed themselves with beasts of Nature.
Obviously, this is the origin of the Atlantean root race.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]Obviously.

I tried reading your post. I tried making sense of it. I swear. It just don't work!!!!
We don't have enough power, captain!!! blink.gif

At first it sounds like you are going to explain how a true "Human Being" thinks and what makes us different, but then you start talking about Atlantis. Then the Sun starts making people have sex with light beams and some Pycho and his Sega Genesis.

There is no spoon. Slowly we are accepting this fact, and it does not make us very happy. It is indeed forgetful to induce the name of the Oracle without first introducing the very element that inspires the spoon. I am refereing of course to Pangea's number one bad-boy, the animal-vegatableoid. alien.gif

If when a number of these (animal vegatableoids) do reach the climax of the thousand year orgy-fest, only is it then when one could even begin to hope to wish to become even a fraction of the tinyest portion of the freckle on my nose. dontgetit.gif

Does this make us less human? If pricked do we not bleed? Is not our blood that which runs through the holy alter machine in neo-heaven? The true Gnostic Master knows that some blood, that in which pure milk chocolate has been injected, can taste good with fava beans and a nice ciante. ph34r.gif

So is all hope lost? Will the world be destroyed in a fiery cataclysm and only those who have the mark of the beast, air masks, panic rooms, H2s, spinner rims, and upgraded cable shall survive? What would you expect to pay for this knowledge? $200? $300? $500?!!!??? NO!!!! All this and more can be your for only 19 easy payments of $67.88!!! cat.gif [/QUOTE]


"...So Lemurians sexually degenerated themselves in the third part of the Eocene Epoch. These sexually degenerated Lemurians were fallen humans who sexually mixed themselves with beasts of Nature; thus Intellectual Animals were born from this mixture." [/quote]

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Even when this seems incredible, the truth is that the donkey, among others, is also an animal of human origins. Much has been spoken about Apuleyus’ ass, about Jesus entering Jerusalem riding an ass, etc. Always the lower passions and the lack of intelligence are associated with the wretched ass.

When we investigate the memories of the great book of Nature, we discover with astonishment the origin of such an animal.

A tribe of enormous black and monstrous giants existed in the beginning in Lemuria.

Each individual of such a barbaric tribe was at least six to eight meters in stature.

Indeed, those individuals were corpulent and horrible monsters. Such subjects came from within the test tube of the laboratory of nature, as nature’ tried to create the human being.

Such an attempt was a true failure of Nature. Those individuals were bestial and they sexually crossed themselves with certain antediluvian monsters.

A kind of monstrous chimpanzee was the outcome of such a mixture; this monstrous chimpanzee, in its turn, crossed itself with other beasts resulting in (after many thousands of years), the primitive ass from which the present ass comes from.

[QUOTE]In conclusion I'm smart and your dumb. wub.gif[/QUOTE]
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We are asserting statements that displease the fanatics of those theories based on the “Dogma of Evolution”; nevertheless, it is certainly true that the laws of evolution and devolution, creation and destruction are simultaneously processed in nature. Nature contains all possibilities, even the most sinister. Nature is nature.
Samael Aun Weor

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The anatomical resemblance between Man (better said, present humanoid) and the higher Ape, so frequently cited by Darwinists as pointing to some former ancestor common to both, presents an interesting problem, the proper solution of which is to be sought for in the esoteric explanation of the genesis of the pithecoid stocks.

We have given it as far as was useful, by stating that the bestiality of the primeval mindless races resulted in the production of huge man-like monsters -- the offspring of human (better said, present humanoid) and animal parents.

As time rolled on, and the still semi-astral forms consolidated into the physical, the descendants of these creatures were modified by external conditions, until the breed, dwindling in size, culminated in the lower apes of the Miocene period.

With these the later Atlanteans renewed the sin of the "Mindless" -- this time with full responsibility. The resultants of their crime were the species of apes now known as Anthropoid.
Secret Doctrine by H.P. Blavatsky
tupac amaru
Loge, I'm sorry man but your posts are just a little too "off the deep end" for me. What gets me is you actually smile (if that's your picture at the bottom of your posts) while you spout all this unsubstantial material that most people would call "baloney". Not meaning to be cruel, but you really ought to research more, get out more, and get a life dude. cat.gif
*MoG*
Well, In my opinion, we are what we are.

Human beings, Aliens, the men from Atlantis, all just words.

You cannot catagorise 'people' each individual will be exactly that 'individual', as Shakespear so aptly wrote 'would a rose by any other name smell as sweet?'.

Call us what you will, but it will not change a damm thing. We will continue along the same path to self destruction as we always have and always will.
lego jedi
I hope i am a human being or i have been paying taxes for absolutly NO reason ....grrr


beowulf
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I hope i am a human being or i have been paying taxes for absolutly NO reason ....grrr


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Loge
QUOTE(tupac amaru @ Nov 3 2004, 10:03 AM)
Loge, I'm sorry man but your posts are just a little too "off the deep end" for me.  What gets me is you actually smile (if that's your picture at the bottom of your posts) while you spout all this unsubstantial material that most people would call "baloney".  Not meaning to be cruel, but you really ought to research more, get out more, and get a life dude.  cat.gif
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tupac amaru
I must have touched a nerve! original.gif grin2.gif laugh.gif w00t.gif wink2.gif
Loge
QUOTE(tupac amaru @ Nov 4 2004, 09:15 AM)

I must have touched a nerve! original.gif  grin2.gif  laugh.gif  w00t.gif  wink2.gif
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tupac amaru, I'm sorry man but your posts are just a little too "off the deep end" for me. What gets me is you actually smile

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(if this your picture?)

While you spout all your unsubstantial material that most people would call "monkey business". Not meaning to be cruel, but you really ought to research more, get off from my posts, and get a life dude. whistling2.gif
tupac amaru
I dunno, it kinda looks more like a "monkey see, monkey do" sort thing, and it is obvious who is copying whom!/ laugh.gif grin2.gif w00t.gif tongue.gif grin2.gif
Nobody
Loge do the terms "AM" and spsw mean anything to you?
If they do then you are a baddd boyyy, but then coming from nobody it probably means as much to you.
Loge
QUOTE(Nobody @ Nov 4 2004, 01:28 PM)
Loge do the terms "AM" and spsw mean anything to you?
If they do then you are a baddd boyyy, but then coming from nobody it probably means as much to you.
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If nobody asks, nobody answers! thumbsup.gif
Nobody
QUOTE(Loge @ Nov 4 2004, 01:44 PM)
QUOTE(Nobody @ Nov 4 2004, 01:28 PM)
Loge do the terms "AM" and spsw mean anything to you?
If they do then you are a baddd boyyy, but then coming from nobody it probably means as much to you.
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If nobody asks, nobody answers! thumbsup.gif
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when nobody answers, everyone knows
Deimos
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Nov 2 2004, 12:09 PM)
Honestly, my definition of a human being...
Human being - a living organism on a universe that has the ability to think, understand life, have the ability to live through eating, drinking, and breathing, and go through the lifely process, such as being born, going through different stages, and eventually dieng.
  Therefore, following my definition of a human being, we are human beings and this world is made of human beings.
  Though I believe we are the only planet who has human beings. Other organisms on other planets and galaxies may not have the abilities we have, to think as smartly as we do...But we may never know...
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Yes, and knows the difference between right and wrong, and making the right choices, and also being scoiable. Humans need contact.
Loge
QUOTE(Monster Hunter X @ Nov 4 2004, 05:45 PM)
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Nov 2 2004, 12:09 PM)
Honestly, my definition of a human being...
Human being - a living organism on a universe that has the ability to think, understand life, have the ability to live through eating, drinking, and breathing, and go through the lifely process, such as being born, going through different stages, and eventually dieng.
  Therefore, following my definition of a human being, we are human beings and this world is made of human beings.
  Though I believe we are the only planet who has human beings. Other organisms on other planets and galaxies may not have the abilities we have, to think as smartly as we do...But we may never know...
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Yes, and knows the difference between right and wrong, and making the right choices, and also being scoiable. Humans need contact.
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So, you are telling me that your eyes are opened, and you know the difference between right and wrong, you know the difference between good and evil! You can make the right choices and are sociable!

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Well, both of you: “Gird up now thy loins like men; for I will demand of you, and answer me.

“Who is the one who darkens counsel by words without knowledge?

Where were you when Cosmo-Creator laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if you have understanding.

“Who has laid the measures thereof, if you know it? Or who has stretched the line upon it?

“Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner stone thereof;
when the morning stars sang together, and all the Cosmo-Creators shouted for joy?

“Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brakes forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?

“When the Cosmo-Creator made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddling band for it, and brake up for it Cosmo-Creator’s decreed place, and set bars and doors, and said, hitherto will you come, but no further: and here will your proud waves be stayed?

“Have you commanded the morning since your days; and caused the dayspring to know his place; that it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

“It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.
And from the wicked their light is with holding, and the high arm shall be broken.

“Have you entered into the springs of the sea? Or have you walked in the search of the depth?

“Have the gates of death been opened unto you? Or have you seen the doors of the shadow of death?

“Have you perceived the breadth of the earth? Declare if you know it all.

“Where is the way where light dwells? And as for darkness, where is the place thereof,
that you should take it to the bound thereof, and that you should know the paths to the house thereof?

“Do you know it, because you were then born? Or because the number of your days is great?

“Have you entered into the treasures of the snow? Or have you seen the treasures of the hail, which Cosmo-Creator has reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?

“By what way is the light parted, which scatters the east wind upon the earth?

“Who has divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder; to cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man; to satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?

"Has the rain a father? Or who has begotten the drops of dew?
Out of whose womb came the ice? And the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?

"Declare if you know it all"

OM MANI PADME HUM
aquatus1
"Who is the one who darkens counsel by words without knowledge?"

Loge, that would be you.

A parrot isn't intelligent. It just likes to repeat things, without really understanding what they mean.
Loge
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Nov 4 2004, 08:04 PM)
"Who is the one who darkens counsel by words without knowledge?"

Loge, that would be you.

A parrot isn't intelligent.  It just likes to repeat things, without really understanding what they mean.
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No, it is you , because you are the first one who answered!

And if you are not a parrot who just repeats things from books and lectures without really understanding what they mean.

Tell me who are you? Not your name, not your age, not your gender, not your beliefs, but who are you if the intellect, if your memory is taken out of you?

And if you do not know who you are, how can you know who I am?
aquatus1
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No, it is you , because you are the first one who answered!


Nice try, but no. Theatrical stagetalk cannot hide the lack of meaning in your words. Your attempts at stand-up philosophy fail due to your lack of credibility. Quite simply, you don't sound like you know what you are talking about.

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And if you are not a parrot who just repeats things from books and lectures without really understanding what they mean.


If I am not a parrot, what? Did you forget to finish this sentence?

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Tell me who are you? Not your name, not your age, not your gender, not your beliefs, but who are you if the intellect, if your memory is taken out of you?


Who I am to myself, should my memory and intellect be erased, is utterly irrelevant, since I would cease to exist as a person and have to start anew. Who I am to the world is still myself, regardless of my personal opinion on the matter. I will bear the same responsibilities and the same consequences for my actions regardless of wether my intellect and memory is present or not.

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And if you do not know who you are, how can you know who I am?


Aah, but I do know who I am. I am the sum of my entire lifetime of experience, and yet, despite the uniqueness of my being, I am also a human, and thus extremely simple and fairly predictable. You, as a human, are the same. Completely, utterly, unavoidably, predictable. No matter how clever you believe another's words to be, or how ferverent your devotion to their stunning originality is (after all, no one could possible have ever heard of the amazing things Samual is talking about before you discovered him), it is still the same mystical hoohah bought into by every young child attempting to stake his intellectual claim and exercise his burgening comprehension that there is a world beyond his own personal needs.
Loge
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I am the sum of my entire lifetime of experience, and yet, despite the uniqueness of my being, I am also a human, and thus extremely simple and fairly predictable.


If you are the sum of your entire lifetime of experience, tell me, indeed, do you remember when you were inside the womb of your mother?

How much do you remember of the sum of your entire lifetime of experience?

Who are you during the time of slumber? Are you aware of yourself? Or do you completely loose the notion of yourself during that experience?

How much percentage of your brain do you use as human?

To that end, how many atoms does one hair of your head has?




Mr. 420
The questions werent asked of me, but they sound fun...

A. 1.) I do not remember being inside the womb of my mother due to infantile amnesia.
The brain is still changing at this time and rapidly taking in new information. Not remembering may also be a protective measure against a very confusing and terrifying process. My first memory is at age three right after Christmas looking at some toys.

A. 2.) There are people who remember almost everything, they have photographic memories. I once saw a documentary on a man who could recall every word on every page of a book he read 20 years ago. Whats your point here?

A. 3.) I dream a lot when I sleep and can recall many of them. As far as I know I am always myself when I dream. There are a few times I have found myself breathing fire on the denizens of Tokyo, though.

A. 4.) What percentage of my brain do I use? I am guessing about the same as everyone else. Doctors are finding out more and more about the brain every day. I am sure that one day we will know what each and every peice of the brain does, and I would venture to guess it will be a lot more mundane than you may wish.

A. 5.) I am sure we could find out how many atoms are on a sigle hair. Hell nanotechnolgy can create simple machines that can fit on a pin head.

More questions please....they are fun to answer tongue.gif
Loge
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The questions were asked of me, but they sound fun...


The questions were for you, because you answered them...

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BRAIN

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A. 1.) I do not remember being inside the womb of my mother due to infantile amnesia.
The brain is still changing at this time and rapidly taking in new information. Not remembering may also be a protective measure against a very confusing and terrifying process. My first memory is at age three right after Christmas looking at some toys.


The brain is just the physical vehicle of the mind. The mind can exist independently from the brain.

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A. 2.) There are people who remember almost everything, they have photographic memories. I once saw a documentary on a man who could recall every word on every page of a book he read 20 years ago. Whats your point here?


The point is this: our memory is written in a book call “our subconsciousness”, but we scarcely open and read its pages. Did you hear about past lives? The memory of past lives is stored within the subconsciousness. For a great deal of superficial people, the theory of reincarnation is a cause for laughter. To others who are very religious, it can signify a taboo or a sin. For the pseudo-occultists, this is a very firm belief. For the scoundrels of the intellect this is a disheveled utopia. Yet for those who can remember prior existences, reincarnation is a fact.
A human being uses the totality of his brain!

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A. 3.) I dream a lot when I sleep and can recall many of them. As far as I know I am always myself when I dream. There are a few times I have found myself breathing fire on the denizens of Tokyo, though.


When the brain works 100% conscious astral travel becomes routine. For real humans, conscious astral travel is not a big deal. Ordinary people just dream, dream and dream.

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A. 4.) What percentage of my brain do I use? I am guessing about the same as everyone else. Doctors are finding out more and more about the brain every day. I am sure that one day we will know what each and every peice of the brain does, and I would venture to guess it will be a lot more mundane than you may wish.


There exist alchemical procedures that help the brain to work 100%.

But: Drugs do not help and YOU know it. Think of the dumbest person you know: THEY do drugs. Isnt it time to you to quit?

And I know you are reading this sig I know your really like looking at porn. Isnt it time to you to quit at porn too?


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A. 5.) I am sure we could find out how many atoms are on a sigle hair. Hell nanotechnolgy can create simple machines that can fit on a pin head.


You can know that without the help of any machine; your brain is the best machine ever created do not destroy it!

More questions please....they are fun to answer tongue.gif
Loge
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Nobody 
Who are you?



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I am the Spirit who always denies all; the Star, the fior.
"My duties and my disputes upset the leisure of the Creator.
"I want to null all and to create the universal ruin through my atmosphere and my vital nature which is that which is called sin, death and evil.
"I laugh and utter this syllable: "No!"
"I tempt, I try, roar, and whistle: "No!"
"I bite and in vice I struggle, I try, roar, and whistle: I hiss! I hiss! I hiss! Eh!
"Part I am of the night and of the longest Dusk.
"I am a son of the Darkness and to Darkness I will return.
"Now the light snatches and seizes my scepter in rebellion.
"But, in a little I will go; I will go to a tension between the sun, between the "Sun and the Earth and to see Destruction!
"Then I will laugh and utter this syllable: "No!"

Nobody
QUOTE(Loge @ Nov 5 2004, 10:38 AM)
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Nobody  
Who are you?



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I am the Spirit who always denies all; the Star, the fior.
"My duties and my disputes upset the leisure of the Creator.
"I want to null all and to create the universal ruin through my atmosphere and my vital nature which is that which is called sin, death and evil.
"I laugh and utter this syllable: "No!"
"I tempt, I try, roar, and whistle: "No!"
"I bite and in vice I struggle, I try, roar, and whistle: I hiss! I hiss! I hiss! Eh!
"Part I am of the night and of the longest Dusk.
"I am a son of the Darkness and to Darkness I will return.
"Now the light snatches and seizes my scepter in rebellion.
"But, in a little I will go; I will go to a tension between the sun, between the "Sun and the Earth and to see Destruction!
"Then I will laugh and utter this syllable: "No!"
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Oh I do not see as the deaf man said.
I am thus honored by such presence as yours.
All in all I must confess that beings such as you
Do not exist within my reality.
Thus being nobody, i have been speaking to someone that does not exist.
Of course You realize that within all Your wisdom and knowledge
it matters not what i am or how i know.


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"I warn thee, whosoever thou art, Oh, thou who wish to probe the arcanes of nature, if thou do not find within thyself that which thou seek, neither shalt thou be able to find it outside. If thou ignore the excellencies of thy own house, how doth thou intend to find other excellencies? Within thee is hidden the treasure of treasures. Oh, man, know thyself, thus thou shalt know the Universe and its Gods!"

and all Dorothy had to say was "there's no place like home" wink2.gif
aquatus1
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If you are the sum of your entire lifetime of experience, tell me, indeed, do you remember when you were inside the womb of your mother?


Nope. My brain was still being formed at the time, and the neurons that existed were quite busy processing the information needed to keep me alive and growing.

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How much do you remember of the sum of your entire lifetime of experience?


I remember very little about learning to drive a stick, or combat training, or swimming, and yet, despite being able to recall little to nothing about the experience, it nonetheless became a part of me and I can use it at will. The idea that you must be able to remember everything in detail (or at all) in order for it to be useful, is conceptually incorrect.

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Who are you during the time of slumber?  Are you aware of yourself? Or do you completely loose the notion of yourself during that experience?


Who I am is the exact person as when I am awake, asleep, revved at a beach volleyball game, or eyes glazed at a particularly boring lecture. If you would like to think that the type of person you are depends on your physical state or mental activity at the time of definition, you will be hard pressed to support your decision.

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How much percentage of your brain do you use as human?


Like every other healthy person in the world, I use 100% of my brain. That which is not used is gradually reabsorbed into the body, and if a need arises for new memories to be stored, new neural connections are made to order.

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To that end, how many atoms does one hair of your head has?


To what end? Your previous question was hardly unaswerable. You seem to be claiming that humans are something more than the bags of meat we evolved to become; that there is some existence beyond the sheer biological content of our make-up. That is certainly a belief shared by many mystical societies, but if you wish to make a case for it, you are going to have to get down to brass tacks and stop with the pseudo-philosophical cliches. How many atoms are in your hair, how many angels can dance on a pinhead, why the sky is blue, all are ultimately irrelevent when defining yourself.
Loge
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You seem to be claiming that humans are something more than the bags of meat we evolved to become; that there is some existence beyond the sheer biological content of our make-up. That is certainly a belief shared by many mystical societies, but if you wish to make a case for it, you are going to have to get down to brass tacks and stop with the pseudo-philosophical cliches. How many atoms are in your hair, how many angels can dance on a pinhead, why the sky is blue, all are ultimately irrelevent when defining yourself.



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You are convinced that human beings are nothing more than bags of meat that evolved from orangutans in order to become the skeptical creatures of today. Unfortunately, with your five senses you can never proove any type of existence beyond the sheer biological content of your make-up; so, due to your incapacity of perceiving beyond this tridimensional world, this matter of beyond, will always be a belief that you will always reject.
Therefore, I do not want to make a case of it with you. So, you will have to be satisfied with your pseudo-scientific clichés.

Dead are not those who in peace rest within the cold tomb
Dead are those who still are alive yet their souls are doomed.
aquatus1
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You are convinced that human beings are nothing more than bags of meat that evolved from orangutans in order to become the skeptical creatures of today. Unfortunately, with your five senses you can never proove any type of existence beyond the sheer biological content of your make-up; so, due to your incapacity of perceiving beyond this tridimensional world, this matter of beyond, will always be a belief that you will always reject.


Actually, no, neither I nor any other evolutionist believes humans evolved from apes, but then, maybe you knew that and were just trying to make science sound silly. As for what I believe, anyone on this forum who has known me for awhile will vouch that I most definitely do believe in certain aspects of the paranatural. You, however, simply decided to take the knee-jerk reaction of assuming anyone who disagrees with you must be a disbeliever. That was to be expected, however. After all, since I claimed before that I do not believe that you understand what you are posting, it is a simple extension of that to expect you to simply turn and sniffle that I am a disbeliever instead of trying to support your position. You would be unable to do so once you ran out of source material to copy/paste.

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Therefore, I do not want to make a case of it with you. So, you will have to be satisfied with your pseudo-scientific clichés.


Unless, of course, you are so bereft of imagination that the only come-back you can copy/paste is my own. This is the second time that you have, unsuccessfully, attempted to turn my words on me. You fail because I understand and can support what I post.

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Dead are not those who in peace rest within the cold tomb
Dead are those who still are alive yet their souls are doomed.


Unless, of course, they know the secrets that you do.
Loge
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Unless, of course, they know the secrets that you do.


Tell me what are the secrets that they know and I also know?
aquatus1
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Tell me what are the secrets that they know and I also know?


Why, all the wonderfully vague teachings and preachings you have seen fit to visit upon us!

For instance, what it is to be human:
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So, Human means: someone whose Deity, Spirit or Breath of Life expresses through the Mind
BEING means: cognizant existence, TO BE IN, BE – IN, in other words, to be cognizant of what is inside.
This is why it is written that the Man is the Microcosmos of the Macrocosmos; someone who reflects the cosmos or the universe within himself.


And of course, our shortcomings, and the solution to them:
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Conclusion: The millions of people on this planet are not Human Beings, but they could become humans if they perform a great psychological change.


Also, a brief opinion on the validity of competing ideas:
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But to establish that the human being evolved from Apes based upon the fact that the feature of one face is similar to that of another is too shallow, so too as to suppose that the human being was made out of clay (without being aware that this is merely a symbol).


But, now that you have told us what humans are, and how we are not, and how silly other ideas are, we are reassured by yourself that you have the answer.
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Gnostics know very well that the intellectual animal is not a human being.


I could go on, but frankly, this wears a bit thin. You are preaching an illusion, and you are unable to back it up with anything greater than "Trust me on this."
Loge
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Nov 5 2004, 10:14 PM)
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Tell me what are the secrets that they know and I also know?


Why, all the wonderfully vague teachings and preachings you have seen fit to visit upon us!

For instance, what it is to be human:
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So, Human means: someone whose Deity, Spirit or Breath of Life expresses through the Mind
BEING means: cognizant existence, TO BE IN, BE – IN, in other words, to be cognizant of what is inside.
This is why it is written that the Man is the Microcosmos of the Macrocosmos; someone who reflects the cosmos or the universe within himself.


And of course, our shortcomings, and the solution to them:
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Conclusion: The millions of people on this planet are not Human Beings, but they could become humans if they perform a great psychological change.


Also, a brief opinion on the validity of competing ideas:
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But to establish that the human being evolved from Apes based upon the fact that the feature of one face is similar to that of another is too shallow, so too as to suppose that the human being was made out of clay (without being aware that this is merely a symbol).


But, now that you have told us what humans are, and how we are not, and how silly other ideas are, we are reassured by yourself that you have the answer.
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Gnostics know very well that the intellectual animal is not a human being.


I could go on, but frankly, this wears a bit thin. You are preaching an illusion, and you are unable to back it up with anything greater than "Trust me on this."
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You SAID: "After all, since I claimed before that I do not believe that you understand what you are posting, it is a simple extension of that to expect you to simply turn and sniffle that I am a disbeliever instead of trying to support your position. You would be unable to do so once you ran out of source material to copy/paste."

So, what I posted is not a secret, because I copied it and pasted it! Therefore, It is not a secret because it is known by millions of people. If you did not know it, well, you are out of the loop!
Conclusion it is not secret material!

So, you did not answer my question!

Dead are not those who in peace rest within the cold tomb
Dead are those who still are alive yet their souls are doomed.

You Answered: Unless, of course, they know the secrets that you do.

My question is: Tell me what are the secrets that they know and I also know?

Because I know many secret things that I will not write in this forum!
But maybe you will since you claim to know them.
CatAstrofix
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When the brain works 100% conscious astral travel becomes routine. For real humans, conscious astral travel is not a big deal. Ordinary people just dream, dream and dream.
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If I have understood correctly, there are humans, and then there are people. Do you think humans are better than people, or just different? Of course, we're all unique, just like everybody else, but dividing the population to A and B classes sounds scary and cruel. For me every person is human being, whose life I respect.

kikuchiyo
I wonder what will happen to the human consept when machine will reach the level of consiousness, we they be our equals? our rivals? our counterpart? or will we all fit?
aquatus1
QUOTE(Loge @ Nov 6 2004, 03:49 AM)
You SAID: "After all, since I claimed before that I do not believe that you understand what you are posting, it is a simple extension of that to expect you to simply turn and sniffle that I am a disbeliever instead of trying to support your position. You would be unable to do so once you ran out of source material to copy/paste."
So, what I posted is not a secret, because I copied it and pasted it! Therefore, It is not a secret because it is known by millions of people.  If you did not know it, well, you are out of the loop!
Conclusion it is not secret material!
So, you did not answer my question!
Dead are not those who in peace rest within the cold tomb
Dead are those who still are alive yet their souls are doomed.
You Answered: Unless, of course, they know the secrets that you do.
My question is: Tell me what are the secrets that they know and I also know?
Because I know many secret things that I will not write in this forum!
But maybe you will since you claim to know them.
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The answer to this is found in my previous post. Here it is again:

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No matter how clever you believe another's words to be, or how ferverent your devotion to their stunning originality is (after all, no one could possible have ever heard of the amazing things Samual is talking about before you discovered him), it is still the same mystical hoohah bought into by every young child attempting to stake his intellectual claim and exercise his burgening comprehension that there is a world beyond his own personal needs.


You are correct, the secrets of the gnostics, or the illuminati, or (insert mysterious mystical society here) are not all that secret to anyone who does the research. They only seem mysterious if you have either only heard of them in passing or have spent time in the New Age section of the local bookstore.

Therefore, taking into account my previous claim that you do not, in fact, understand the subject throughly (since you seem unable to interpret the information to answer questions other than those you yourself pose) and are unable to counter claims effectively (other than claiming that the other is a disbeliever and cannot posibly have the ability to understand what you are saying), I would say that you only have the sense given to those searching for something to believe in, yet something a little out of the mainstream, in order to proclaim your uniqueness to the world at large. In short, the secrets that I refer to are those that so often entangle young minds, eager to believe they have encountered something the world has never before seen, and therefore they comprehend something that very, very few others do.
Loge
QUOTE(CatAstrofix @ Nov 6 2004, 02:55 AM)
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When the brain works 100% conscious astral travel becomes routine. For real humans, conscious astral travel is not a big deal. Ordinary people just dream, dream and dream.
sad.gif

If I have understood correctly, there are humans, and then there are people. Do you think humans are better than people, or just different? Of course, we're all unique, just like everybody else, but dividing the population to A and B classes sounds scary and cruel. For me every person is human being, whose life I respect.
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There is a Human being who was unique and who taught people how to become humans, but they killed him because of that!

Of course not even his followers understood his knowledge. They misunderstood him; today, they are good but mistaken people.

"He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the children of God (humans), even to them that believe on his name which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God."

He said: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, I know that you are Abraham's seed; but you seek to kill me, because my word has no place in you.

"I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and you do that which you have seen with your father.

"They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus said unto them, If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham.

"But now you seek to kill me, a man that has told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

"You do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

"Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, you would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

"Why do you not understand my speech? even because you cannot hear my word.

"You are of your father the devil,

"and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

So, according to him, we are children of the devil!

The population is divided in to A and B classes not because of him but because of us!, since such a division in inside everybody’s Psyche.

We have two main things within our own psychological depths:

1- Our own particular, individual Spirit (GOD)

2- Our own particular, individual (DEVIL): Lust, Anger, Greed, Envy, Pride, Gluttony, Laziness, and so on...

We have to choose between the A and B classes. Millions of people, Minds (MANAS) prefer their own EGO and they do not care about their own Spirit (HUM).
Loge
QUOTE(kikuchiyo @ Nov 6 2004, 03:32 AM)
I wonder what will happen to the human consept when machine will reach the level of consiousness, we they be our equals? our rivals? our counterpart? or will we all fit?
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Clearly, the intellectual animal mistakenly called human being is a robot, programmed at kindergarten, primary and secondary school, college and the university, etc.

No one can deny that a programmed robot functions according to its programming. In no way could it function if the program were removed.

The Antichrist has produced the program with which the humanoid robots of these decadent times are programmed.

Making these clarifications, emphasizing what I am saying, is frightfully difficult, as this is not in the program. No humanoid robot would admit things that are not in the program.

The absorption of the mind is so tremendous and serious a matter that a humanoid robot will never even remotely suspect that the program is useless; he has been organized according to that program and to doubt it seems like heresy, something incongruous and absurd.

For a robot to doubt its own program is absurd, an absolute impossibility, because its very existence depends upon that program.

Unfortunately, things are not as humanoid robots think they are. There is another science, another wisdom, which they find unacceptable.

The humanoid robot reacts, and rightly so, as it is not programmed to deal with another science or another culture, or anything else that differs from its well-known program....

Dazzling intellectualism, as the manifested functionalism of the psychological “I”, is without a doubt the Antichrist

Those who suppose that the Antichrist is a strange personage born somewhere on the Earth or coming from this or that country are certainly completely mistaken.

We have emphatically stated that the Antichrist is definitely not a particular person, but all people.

Obviously, the Antichrist itself exists deep within each person and expresses itself in many ways.

Intellect which is placed in the service of the Spirit is useful; intellect which is divorced from the Spirit becomes useless.....

http://www.gnosis-usa.com/Lectures/antichrist.html
Loge
[quote]No matter how clever you believe another's words to be, or how ferverent your devotion to their stunning originality is (after all, no one could possible have ever heard of the amazing things Samual is talking about before you discovered him), it is still the same mystical hoohah bought into by every young child attempting to stake his intellectual claim and exercise his burgening comprehension that there is a world beyond his own personal needs.[/quote]

You are correct, the secrets of the gnostics, or the illuminati, or (insert mysterious mystical society here) are not all that secret to anyone who does the research. They only seem mysterious if you have either only heard of them in passing or have spent time in the New Age section of the local bookstore.

Therefore, taking into account my previous claim that you do not, in fact, understand the subject throughly (since you seem unable to interpret the information to answer questions other than those you yourself pose) and are unable to counter claims effectively (other than claiming that the other is a disbeliever and cannot posibly have the ability to understand what you are saying), I would say that you only have the sense given to those searching for something to believe in, yet something a little out of the mainstream, in order to proclaim your uniqueness to the world at large. In short, the secrets that I refer to are those that so often entangle young minds, eager to believe they have encountered something the world has never before seen, and therefore they comprehend something that very, very few others do.
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Okay! I do not, in fact, understand the subject thoroughly (since I am unable to interpret the information to answer your questions other than those I myself pose) and are unable to counter claims effectively (other than claiming that the other is a disbeliever and cannot possibly have the ability to understand what I am saying).

Are you EGO happy now?

Your mind is entangled in your own prejudices (Ego) and you are afraid that young minds will see and touch with their Psychological senses what you cannot see and touch with your intellect, because your intellect avoids you to see beyond this physical world. Anything from beyond this physical world is just theories and beliefs for you.

This knowledge is as old as the world and it is not my knowledge, it belongs to everybody, if you rejected it in your youth that is not my problem but your own.

Best regards.
kikuchiyo
But i was talking about man-made, plasic, wires and steel robots.
Loge
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But i was talking about man-made, plasic, wires and steel robots.
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