I guess the following words will prompt someone to remove this post, but, anyway.....




I have always wondered what kind of collective human emotion gained momentum for the civil rights movement to get off the ground, do humans have to wait til their back is against the wall. Or was it the fact that it was only successfuly initiated as part of a universal population desire for social change on many levels along with the hippy peace movement and the push by the then youth culture for greater social importance in the decaying conservative societies of the 1960s?

I ask this because today, not like ever before, do more and more people in the world hold knowledge of the mild atrocities set up by corporate govt individuals headed by the illuminati an their puppetiers. We know of the New world Order games and the mind control operations. We know of the tortures and the society manipulations. Importantly, we know of the coming dark times when millions will be manipulated to their death ahead of the new religion and government...Hell, you are allowed to be warned of the comming nightmares but I wonder...Why is there no voice or VOICES to puncture through the controlled media, to constantly inform the masses of the truth before it is too late.

Never is Time Square blockaded with marches or riots. The British parlimentary members are never halted into Downing street by anyone. The world's scientists never gather and confront the United Nations, never do the get together to complain to anyone ever. Never do I hear on television of any terrorists crying or the real truth to be heard...isnt that strange, isn't it a little strange???The Media shows how many people get killed here and there on a daily basis but hardly a whisper is sustained on the crimes of your leaders

Why not? Are you humans that weak? I once heard that you can achieve anything(I mean anything) if you put your mind to it, and when you are capable to work in groups then no barrier can prevent you from success. Why do internet hackers not rig viruses to inform the masses of the truth,???THE WRITING SHOULD BE ON THE WALL...

I can only think of two reasons? You are creating fear fantasies of a NWO that cannot be proved true because there is no NWO to come. Or, you are patheticly complacent in life which sounds about right for the average programmed society human. Think about it. How long have you been comfortably living in a controlled dictatored society? since the world wars, before money was conceptualised or before that???

As long as you can watch your favourite tv program, and have enough money in pocket, eat regularly, whether we know of tommorow or not you remain still happy to accept the future. But who is the fool. The one who knows nothing or the one who knows all and does nothing to gather a movement.

The fact is that you really do enjoy living in a controlled society because you live well enough to feel comfort. Of course the comfort is taken away from time to time when the controllers create wars to move a few million here or there or even to their deaths just for their master plans(or plans for a better future for the majority, who really knows), but you all accept these realities with relative calm and trust in the wisdom of your rullers, no matter what?

Most violent events are caused from the conflicts between man and woman. Then it is religion. What if, for the interest of the whole, the USA went into the deserts of the Middle easT on a mission of squashing the Muslim faith. I am just being hypothetical for a second. If the path they made was towards a one world religion. along with the gradual dissolving of the christian ideology. The two religions have caused quite a lot of mutual conflict for humans while the BHuddists promote greater health and mental faculties towards super human abilities(linking to the hitler projects), perhaps it is time to end the eons old religion wars. What is wrong with a staged 'War to end all Wars' created by your masters to create a more simpler peaceful religion for your children to follow, the same god all the current religions follow anyway. I believe a universal religion is as peaceful as a universal USA of many cultures living peacefully together under the same ideology. The difference is to believe in a one god for all peoples, what an amaing achievement from the mess peoples have had to live through since the dawn of city/temple cultures. Please think carefully. If your masters were able to manipulate the masses, to believe this one god WOULD THIS NOT STOP BORDER WARS of faith and ideology???If nothing was done, will it be Pakistan or Jordan or North Korea who sets off those neuclear bombs not only destroying a few humans but innocent animals and plant life for generations ahead. I prefer a central religion. ALL for one ideal. So that humanity may eventually return.

A central government is in operation right now and for some time. All the govt heads of the world tie into secret societies who are controlled by the top 5%. All currupt and very power greedy yet we still exist in relative comfort with them at the helm, we even live with luxuries. A massive improvement from 200 or so years ago years ago, right?

I admit my argument is mostly valid, by the very fact that those of you who complain with your writings, do so like mice. Where are the heros of men and the visionaries of the future. The existed before, where are they now? Can you name one of them???Our time period lacks the leaders with the metal to organise a rebellion out of the intended population control and the rest live by acceptance or just complacentcy. Obviously there is no real threat, only the fear of change, right?

Me myself would only support the NWO if its socialist idiology were also to support the individual as importantly as the whole.

To be honest I have no idea of the details of this NWO. I dont believe it has strength to survive the future.

I am playing a simple devil's advocate. I see no strength out there in humans and no vision or movement anywhere that has unifying power to counter the NWO. Humans seem like invalids, where is the power of the people? do you have to recieve double taxes before you leave your armchair reality? Saying that, I know that the best way to change the world is to change myself, from the inside out, which I am doing intently hour by the hour. I guess I want to know more from you guys of this looming threat of change. What will the future religion demand of the people that you should be worried about. Will it be benevolent or demand human sacrifices like before, do you really know? Exactly what have you heard of the way the followers or the NWO will be treated? Apart from the cages for those who oppose, who said the planned future will be hideous, and for who and why?

Zeus ^^ i see no reason why it would be deleted...

Ok cool,

I was just wondering if this post will cause any upsets as I am really calling humans complacent cowards.

By their soft stance against potential prison detention and death sentences as rebels to the NWO in the near future, they might as well be inviting the future upon themselves.

No...I don't think it's a 'soft stance' Zeus...I believe most people don't actually realise the danger we are all in.
Take for instance the rants and ravings of the right wing fanatics in these forums...You would be forgiven to think (reading their comments) that it is already a crime to voice opposition and/or to criticise Bush and Blair and other war criminals who sit in government over us.

I ask you to remember what occurred in South American countries during the last paranoiac episode...America's (backyard) it was called.... Remember the 'Generals'...Remember the Death squads and the political detainees. Remember the torturers and remember the thousands and thousands of 'disappeared'.

No Zeus...Not 'soft'...I just don't believe people have woken up to the reality yet. And when they do...it may be too late (?)

Vimjams

I must remind you of the valiant Amerindian WARRIORS who gave their lives to protect their families against the then new evil of the white man invading and taking their homeland, they didn't just sit and let it happen, they were warriors. I must also remind you of the (though part of the young America control experiment) brave Americans rebelling against the then undefeatable British forces through incidents like the Boston Tea Party to create American independantcy. I must also remind you of the bravery of those who stood up in America against the Vietnam war and they were only students.

Today, is human society any different from those heroic days, or are you sitting on your hands and just merely voicing words of complaint as you wait for the inevitable transformation point to come?

As for the mindset escuse that many have not awoken, all i can say is that of the thousands or millions who are awake, how many of them have the gaul to gather and lead a movement of awakening?(I hope I am wrong and there is a world wide underground movement ready to strike the media, but really that seems like fantasy).

With all the NWO surveilance technology, anything is still possible if humans learned the minor miracle on how to stand up TOGETHER. Even if there wasn't this current staged Iraqi initiative pawning the Iraqis as terror resistance factors against the UN playing out NWO ideals, I am pretty sure that the arabs would still be in the stance they are in right now, where they prefer to die fighting before they are canned and treated like the human cattle. I see the same mindset in them as with your American Indians of old, the only difference is that history shows you cannot defeat arab nations, only bargain with them. Meanwhile this supposed Conspiracy issue that will effect all nations and inprison many is very well know in the west yet you do very little.

I think the world has moved a great deal since those (dates) you mention.
Most people are scared Zeus. Don't you realise that?
I think the prospect of 'unemployment' frightens many people...I think paying the bills and cleaning the car have important places in their lives. Making sure the holiday is booked...getting that birthday gift for aunty...grumbling about the price of bread...All manner of silly trivial things have become 'reasons to be grateful'. And as such, there is no place and no part in them to think (mainly of) and so deeply about the consequences of their forgetful folly.
Isn't it the case...That what is going to happen to human beings eventually, and possibly soon...Isn't this inevitable? It has been predicted many times.

Do you know the 'secret' then Zeus?

Vimjams

Exactly, today's population are too busy to act. I know of no secrets except the current haman phenomena of the lack of self presevation, it makes me wonder if the conspiracy theorists secretly indorse the inevitable changes or that change is really good. Why fear?

Now thats a question that has been posed to me many times, as a conspiracy theorist, and the way i view the world, would the changes be good? I think the wake up would be good yes, but the cost is too high i think.

Because the 'inevitable' isn't evolutionary...It is enforced change. It is something by which mankind is neither qualified nor is prepared for. This change (as you call it) is actually the result of decades (if not centuries) of malcontent and criminal activity. Recall the ‘seven deadly sins’? Such have been the building blocks for our present civilisation.

Human beings do not have the right to be 'selective'…It will be disastrous.
Proof of this (cancer) is all around us
Vimjams

You mean for centuries the western world has been the fool and idiot in the land of the puppetier. So how many times has man been warned of the truth and failed to really get numbers together. I hear of no past wars or movements against the NWO. Hey just give up, there is nowhere to run. And if there really was a phase of human evolution the jailers have spent/wasted centuries trying to prevent, do you think they would program humans to ignore the signs and ridicule the possibility of it. Well, by your words it seem they managed to defeat you even before the changes have began. Alays remember that the current video game movie channel gore being promoted to us today may be the tip of the iceberg/rainbow of what is really happening i.e. the 300,000 yearly missing children from the caring USA and your family too. Well. not just yet.

If the believers really believed or had crystal balls to see the future. I wonder if how many would find escuses. Your secret societies are not prepared for sudden changes in you.

Well I could actually find a way to infiltrate the Canadian Media as is, but it would need the man power. Maybe take a few tips from Chandra Levy.

I wonder what investigations the RCMP or Canadian Government would do to stop me--or us.

Zeus, my question is, where do you stand? Are you not the fool who " knows all and does nothing to gather a movement" or are you the one making the necessary plans to start the movement?

I hate to interrupt this chat room but, Zeus, you speak of people like you are outside our race. Are you a superior being living on Earth or a superintelligent humanoid from some distant galaxy? It is obvious that you are more enlightened that the rest of us and I ask you to please help us find the answer to the problem you pointed out. If you can give me a solution, I will act on it. As long as its reasonable If you want to bomb abortion clinics and coffee houses then the deal is off. I welcome your thoughts.





EDIT: I mean no disrespect, I would just like to know where you would like to go with this.

Many forums show the usual response to my posts like 'what can we do to change this, we are doomed' or 'there is no hope'. If I am a superior being and so on, I would'nt bother to help. Actually I am not helping. Humans have been programmed from birth to be complacent and let somebody else do it. This allows governments to flourish without restraint(pretty good huh!!!). I am testing the air in the forums for responses and testing the theory that humans have no ability to join hands towards a common cause, i.e. the valued future of their childrens future. Day on day this is deemed to be a greater and greater miracle to acomplish.

I am only highlighting the point of a common and crutial weakness in western humanity. You greed for your own life and soon to be fleating luxuries and fear the need to link up in huge numbers to plan and act. Am I human? Who cares, it changes nothing on this forum for me to say I am human It causes negativity from you for me to say otherwise. I am ashamed though. Who's side am I on. I am on both. My reasons are valid and will remain hidden. To see the bigger picture of what humans are going through right now is a fortunate virtue indeed. It is a spiritual game or right of passage, but saying that will mean nothing to many no matter how many words are used to explain it. I believe in evolution. And with humans on earth in the vast majority, if they cannot learn to get together and solve the test they do not have the right to independence and this planet. The simplicity of joining hands has so much power that nothing is even prepared by your masters to deal with it. Absolutely NOTHING. Then, it has always been true that in this game, humans have the trump card. If you prefer to stay alone and ignore the impending threats. There is a secret they hide and will revealed if you oxygenate your body and be bouyant in water, then you will eventually reorganise your junk dna and solve a major puzzle. Do not believe me. I prefer humans to complain and ridicule and fight each other in the gutter as programmed to and make way for a higher evolutionary form to take you by surprise. Your illuminati answers to a higher conciousness. Stay as the Dolo and the woolly mammoth and be puppeted to the furnace. or join hands...

Zeus, the same NWO is already planning a universal religion, and anyone who does not conform to this universal religion will be dealt with severely. The universal religion will have its roots in the New Age movement. I don't think a universal religion is the answer.

Good answer, I don't think that everyone will ever completely agree on theses issues and if we do, where do we go then? Who will make the rules? Who will uphold the laws? I, for one, don't worry too much about NWO or a unified world government because I don't believe it will happen. I guess I am a "me-ist" to an extent. I worry more about how I am going to pay my mortgage and car note next month than trying to get the world to agree with my beliefs. Your opinions are obviously passionate and heartfelt. For that I commend you. Keep fighting your fight and sharing your beliefs, people are listening.

Stop wasting your time posting on the internet. If you want to get something done, Gather a bunch of your comrades and let us meet covertly in a secret cave in Peru high in the Andes and begin planning world domination and creating a new set of laws and religion for a new higher conciousness of humanity!

Preaching on the internet, a material object of desire, just does not help humanity much.

Could it be that by electing the officials that we elect that we are trying to change to way of things. Maybe I am to far to the right to completely understand this thread. I have been accused of that very thing. Can't help it and not sure that even if I could help it that I would.

I do agree with Athenian though, if you want to effect a change the internet is not the place to be. I used to get up on my personal pulpit and preach about how things should be. One day a friend of mine pointed out that I have no right to complain or make judgements since I was doing nothing to make the changes I saw as necessary. I started my quest to change things by registering to vote. Here I am 43 years old and this past election is the first time I ever voted. I am planning a run for a public office, even though I have many skeletons in my closet. I live in a very small county in Georgia, I thought perhaps County Commissioner. Then again maybe I am missing the point of this thread completely and I am guilty of small thinking.

I am against religions. The are people management programs without the spiritual medicine. They are supposed to be ways to strengthen mind body and spirit to help the me-ists and the sheeple to live without the need for greed, chaos and violence, you know, like the buddist way of life,(not religion)but way of life.

I dream of a human society without the need to have to wait for guidance. What seems like a miracle of humanity living for the individual and the whole equally and with no greed or chaos emotions and do as was done with the ancients. Live in peace. This minor miracle is not an evolution. It is a healing. Back to the times when we were taught to be as one instead of ratting each other to make the dollar and pay their redundant taxes...

i.e. a virus or multi spam message encouraging non payment of taxes throughout the internet may not work, because this is not the age of the individual and the viral artist is probably doing it for personal gain and not for that underground movement, (you know the anti NWO people)))). this is the age of the collective. The individual can do nothing for everyone unless they cultivate their Chi and activate their god self and influence millions as hinted in The Celistine Prophesy'. Other than that, the individual will sell out his mother to move higher on the social heap, and needs to learn to reach out for the good of the whole, the unit will move mountains believe it. This is the time of the Collective.

Wow Zeus
Then when you wake up and realize that humans could never behave in a manner that you describe. Humans are not ever going to be capable of living in peace, never have never will. It is in our nature to destroy what we cannot posess. As long as man has inhabited this planet we have been killing each other for reasons as broad as the planet itself. Do you really believe that man would ever be as enlightened as you describe?
girty1600 wrote:

Well said girty1600, that is the reason this forum works.

I saw this thread and drooled -- didn't have time to read it all but I'm going to put in my 2 cents.


I believe our society has relied on technology far to greatly. We destroy the enviroment, do not replace it, and expect it to just appear again for harvesting. We destroy the enviroment carelessly, we destroy ourselves. The planet has a precious balance we are not following. In my opinion, World War III will kill off roughly 85% of all human beings, and the ones left, hopefully, will be the ones that came to their senses, saw reality, and know how to fit in with the balance. In my life, when I am old enough, I am leaving the Corrupt States of America and headed for what I see as interesting, and prosper: Iceland. I'm fed up with what the race has become, it's really a disgrace. Most of the world commercializes, destroys, perverts, and consumes everything good, as if it were infinite and invincible. Nothing but destruction lies in the near future, but I have confidence that after destruction the ones that have not yet learned what is right, and what is wrong, not yet learned to follow the rules of anarchy and befriend one another, will do so, and by doing so, make this world a better place.

A little wishful thinking never hurt.

They say the Raven is the wisest of the birds. Ancient history show humans living in harmony. Work out who promotes the chaos and you find they currupted the religions divided nations and controlled and promoted most of the world's wars particularly in the Middle East, created and promoted the monetary systems and are planning and implimenting the 6 in every 7 human reduction. Work out who controls the illuminati and you will learn that humans are playful but prefer not to destroy each other if allowed to live as humans.

Any word to celebrate the move to defeat the coming changes galvanises change even if it effects change in 1%. Say nothing, nothing changes. I do not expect humans to stand up. Your back isn't against the wall yet...

The only thing different, is that under the patriot act this process has been sped up 100X. But like I said before, theres several larges groups of people all preparing for this. We also have some big stuff going down soon since bush got rellected

Off topic but on the topic of the raven being wise. Thank you for many things, especially knowing that. A prime example of prejudice is people seeing crows and saying "Stupid crows," when infact, crows are one of the smartest birds in the world, only rivaled by the extremely intelligent raven. When I can, I plan to befriend several of them. They will be life long companions, since ravens can live on average over 40 years old. Some may say I'm strange, and stupid, but prejudice comments can't even scratch the surface of my will. I hope this acts as an enlightment thread to those who have dished out comments like these in the past, and the present.

And just to let you know, Odin has two ravens at his side that see the happenings of the world and come back to tell their master. Huginn and Muninn.

Zeus, I still would like to know what you have done, other than speaking about it. "Actions speak louder than words"

If you want something to be done, why don't you command the helm. You seem like the right man for the job. Coordinate the movement and we shall see where to go from there.

Unless this is part of the NWO... a conspiracy in itself.

I do believe that the Illuminate will head The One World Order and you have to look at what they believe in to find out that the new program will be but I don't think when the TOWO comes to pass that it will be a good thing. Nobody in the history of the world has been able to see eye to eye on one thing let alone religion or politics. When the TOWO comes to pass I give it 5 1/2 months to be in effect then we will be in for a huge change. I study Biblical prophecy and text does indicate that a one world order will take control for 5 1/2 months not the 7 years that most scholars believe and then there will be an earth shattering change. I could be preachy right now but I save my Biblical theories for those whom ask.

I have heard the sayng. 'If you want to change the world change yourself'. I have been doing so for the last twelve years as well a gathering knowledge of this world's futures. Nobody I meet have time to change the world or believe it possile. I started with music many years ago with a group called The Martians our slogan was 'The Martians are coming to save the earth(really coming to hoodwink mankind to solve his problems and to wipe humans out altogether), we hussled the steets and squattted in high street shops selling our music, propaganda liturature, even a video, but this was a couple of years before the internet and our message was the same as the 1970's punks like the se pistols with an even greater slant on the freedom fighter routine and that something ain't quite right about the illuminati. Later on with the internet we can now read allegations about planet x and reptilian overlords controling the royals/illuminati and whatever. The main point is that our message was the world will be given many chances to unite and change the coming missfortune and the world will ignore them. Sounds familiar right. Of course though people loved our energy and music the usual response was, ahead of your time or not what the people want to hear or too radical. Late 1980's was a good brainwashing era when the rebellions were quashed. I have a great love of birds and wild cats and all who live and enjoy the earth and I am only in the forum to continue to test a theory an find Your interest in change, but I recieved not one personal message of invitation or enthusiasm to move forward in unity. Tough. I don't mind the earth going back to the animals, the time when humans are culled back to a manageable level. I mean a few hundred thousand or the odd million or two. Sorry I know there is challenge brewing up underground and the game ahead will be a good moment indeed. Secrecy. I am sounding my horn, waving my flag. The more flags waved the more and more that modern suberbia believes.
I don't believe in the concept to lead a people has any long term merit. Lead yourself. Learn how to. It is childs play. Just re-educate your ego tendancies and emotions if you really want to or find the time to do it. If you are spiritual, learn to open the heart chackra and learn to clean out that cancer. Opening the heart chackra balances your emotions and you will be amazed you diddn't realise you were suffering a long term mild depression or living uptight frustration. Then perhaps you will have time to join hands in more ways than to fight the power. humans have been given all the clues and prefer to remain seperated insulted and unhappy with themselves!!!!! The society should be full of the maturity of all ages, which means (like many places pockets are today around the world believe it or not)without the sight of the police for days and days...Possible...true...'We are the ones to blame' say the downtrodden Nigerian man in the streets of Lagos, 'Not the Imperialist British colonialist residues or the world trade markets crippling our economy from being A world power to being shanty town country' We are at fault not the govt or illuminati or the police or the military or oppressor. Not in today's free society(well we can check our watches on that near future). Fix yourself, control yourself and then/or join and control your world.

I can lead, but is humanity worth it or has the illuminati got the best ideas. I have lead before by example and by thought. I have worked on myself a hell of a lot and know minor miracles are possible and have been done and are being donee today. I am not here to boast though so I will say find out for yourself. I am here only to help raise the dust on the human desease of lithatgy(. I have no fear of any future. It will be a wild one, an exiting one, and it will mean CHANGE.
vaticannacitav

Hi all, I am obviously new to this forum, but i've been reading around here on and off for some time now. I live right now in US but i'm originally from Ukraine. Being exposed to different cultures, i think gives me an advantage over alot of americans i know here(no offence). There's so much on my mind so excuse me if this post seems scattered.

I want to know if anyone here have heard about John Titor and his story? if not then http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/
I certantly hope that it isnt true. And certain things said in there made me think of Illuminati and their plan. If it IS a hoax then someone invested alot of time creating it.

Become the change you wish to see

Why not? Are you humans that weak? I once heard that you can achieve anything(I mean anything) if you put your mind to it, and when you are capable to work in groups then no barrier can prevent you from success. Why do internet hackers not rig viruses to inform the masses of the truth,???THE WRITING SHOULD BE ON THE WALL...

My best friend in the world is a very adept programmer. I like you idea. Lets create an email virus with all thr truth on the New Orld Order, Government cover ups, and the Illuminati. If the powers that be force us into believing certain falacies, why can't we force people to see the truth?

Lets get it in action!

I can only think of two reasons? You are creating fear fantasies of a NWO that cannot be proved true because there is no NWO to come. Or, you are patheticly complacent in life which sounds about right for the average programmed society human. Think about it. How long have you been comfortably living in a controlled dictatored society? since the world wars, before money was conceptualised or before that???

Beautiful thinking my friend. These are very powerful thoughts. Dangerous ones too.

As long as you can watch your favourite tv program, and have enough money in pocket, eat regularly, whether we know of tommorow or not you remain still happy to accept the future. But who is the fool. The one who knows nothing or the one who knows all and does nothing to gather a movement.

Let us gather a force then.

The fact is that you really do enjoy living in a controlled society because you live well enough to feel comfort. Of course the comfort is taken away from time to time when the controllers create wars to move a few million here or there or even to their deaths just for their master plans(or plans for a better future for the majority, who really knows), but you all accept these realities with relative calm and trust in the wisdom of your rullers, no matter what?

Our leaders are only looking out for themselves, and their diabolical plans. We are expendable to them. But we are not powerless if we organize!

Most violent events are caused from the conflicts between man and woman. Then it is religion.

Man created religion. God created faith. You don't have to got to "church" to believe in God. Or to follow his teachings.


What is wrong with a staged 'War to end all Wars' created by your masters to create a more simpler peaceful religion for your children to follow

What is wrong with that? For starters, there will never, ever be a war to end all wars. To do that, you would need to completely redesign humans from the ground up. And as far as creating another religion is concerned, if God truely exists, then religion isn't needed. We can follow God without rituals or gatherings. To create a new religion would be to further shadow the truth. If God exists, creating a one world religion would not be of God. Why? Lucifer is at war with God. It is his religions against the religion of God. That is why there is war between faiths. That is why there is war period. If all people were united in their beliefs, they would either be following a True God, or a false God. Besides, to create one world religion, we would have to force youth to believe in it. It would take away one of our most precious freedoms we have. And I for one would fight and die to preserve my freedom to worship whatever I want.

the same god all the current religions follow anyway.

No, religions do not follow the same god. If they did, they would have the same scripture, the same ceremony, the same prayers, and perfect unity under God. From what I have studied into religions, there are enough differences to make it very clear they are not the same. Not the same at all. I will explain this further if you like.

I believe a universal religion is as peaceful as a universal USA

One of the goals of the Illiminati is one world religion under the control of Lucifer. Another goal is one world Government.

of many cultures living peacefully together under the same ideology.

To live under the same ideology, we would have to be forced into it. No one would ever unite together willingly. And to be forced into believing something is very, very wrong.

If your masters were able to manipulate the masses, to believe this one god WOULD THIS NOT STOP BORDER WARS of faith and ideology???

You really REALLY need to read into the workings of the Illuminati. It explains alot of what you are getting at here. ......And from what you have said here, you might be one of them.


I prefer a central religion. ALL for one ideal. So that humanity may eventually return.

You are talking exactly like a member of the New World Order.


A central government is in operation right now and for some time. All the govt heads of the world tie into secret societies who are controlled by the top 5%. All currupt and very power greedy yet we still exist in relative comfort with them at the helm, we even live with luxuries. A massive improvement from 200 or so years ago years ago, right?

No, not at all. Not in the least!


I admit my argument is mostly valid, by the very fact that those of you who complain with your writings, do so like mice.

You "admit" you argument is mostly valid? What is that supposed to mean? And you compare my comments on what you are saying here to a mouse? I am all for uniting AGAINST the New World Order. But if you are for them, than I am your sworn enemy. I hope that isn't the case.

Where are the heros of men and the visionaries of the future. The existed before, where are they now?

No no, we have been taught they existed before. He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.


Can you name one of them???Our time period lacks the leaders with the metal to organise a rebellion out of the intended population control and the rest live by acceptance or just complacentcy. Obviously there is no real threat, only the fear of change, right?

If I could do one thing in my life, it would be to organize a movement against the New World Order so great, the windows of congress would shatter in our wake.


To be honest I have no idea of the details of this NWO. I dont believe it has strength to survive the future.

As you said, you don't know the details. And without knowing the details, you cannot make the assumption that it will not survive the future.

I see no strength out there in humans and no vision or movement anywhere that has unifying power to counter the NWO.

That's because we have finally reached a point of utter and absolute deception. In years past, people could believe truth. People could unite against evil. These days, people argue over whether or not evil is an actual concept. People discount truth if they don't want to accept it. We are now a populous ready for destruction. Our wills are going to be crushed into submition through fear. More so than they already have been.

Humans seem like invalids, where is the power of the people?

If truth is now a relative thing, we have no power. We cannot unite under relative truth. If truth is objected, and something to be persued, not invented, then we will be able to find the real power of goodness. I believe God is Truth. And Truth is God.


What will the future religion demand of the people that you should be worried about.

I will never forsake my God to follow a religion that a man blatantly created. I will die before I do. And then, and only then, when all of my kind are dead, will there be a one world religion. All of this is prophecied in Revelations in the Bible.


In conclusion, there is nothing we can do to prevent the coming apocolypse. I cannot stop the prophecied will of God. However, I will stand up for him in the end times. I will die for him if I have to. I will make known to every man, woman, and spirit what I believe in, so when God comes, he will know my stance.

And that stance is for him.

Lets discuss more about Biblical prophecies. My email is brokenjohnnynofix@hotmail.com

Insight. If you really want to know. I am the enemy of the weak 'n' complacent and friend of the strong who move to take living their future with control, I am of the/the light and will help only those who seek the light, but this is no place to explain all that, I believe in the evolution happening right now and this is the time to wake up or be removed from this earth. I am also in belief of the battling system lords of other worlds around here right now whose purpose outshine that of humans...but that is my personal reality...

So I am with the enemy of the people, because without the current rulers, the humans would digress to spinless lazy people or do they need help in reversing this process. I care deeply for the earth and a reduction of the vegetables here is in order of progress. I was looking for signs of change in attitude, but I guess you are right. Apathy reigns and the apocalypse is now set without change. I am laughing at this all, as there is still time even today but nobody will change.....so bring in the earthquakes....

I must admit though I am on all sides, I do love a good struggle for freedom and I also believe in the laws of natural selection....Thus those who secretly conspire to enslave an entire population while they advertise it deserve all the credit. Those who survive the onslaught and lie to see the light deserve the evolution given...

I am of the/the light and will help only those who seek the light,

There is only one light of the World, and that is Jesus Christ. He said it himself. Lucifer is a being of light. He appears as an angel of light. But he is the enemy of God. Did you know the Illuminati means "The Lucifer Light bearers"? His light is power, and destruction. God's light is Power, and life.

If you are of the light of God, I am on your side. If you want to help people seek HIS light, I am in your troop.

Make this clear to me now. Very clear. For I fear I am your dire enemy. Make this clear to me now.



I must admit though I am on all sides, I do love a good struggle for freedom and I also believe in the laws of natural selection....Thus those who secretly conspire to enslave an entire population while they advertise it deserve all the credit. Those who survive the onslaught and lie to see the light deserve the evolution given...


I need to know what you mean here. I am deadly serious about this.

I can leave people to their own devices and ignorance, but if you are talking about taking the side of Lucifer's light, we are going to have trouble. Big trouble.

Please, make this very clear to me, very soon.

The biggest secret is that the light has returned to this solar system in abundance and is getting stronger,,,beings on earth are too caught up in apathy or war...yet the illuminati know this is a special time...and those above them may not want humans to benefit from what is happening here....lucifer, jesus ....whoever it's the same light, force, chi it gives one greater knowledge of this cosmos and greater abilities to effect it.....it's the intention of the one or group using it that makes it all interesting....jesus said walk in the light.....that is the most important part of the remains of that bible book and it is easy to do and also the most challenging thing to do also......you must clean your thoughts and personal baggage as well as your attachments and also the body, if you don't then the light will damage your mind and body and kill you hence chaos incresing...this is real...but it is hidden knowledge..and perhaps the illuminati are working their people to cleanse themselves in preparation for this...hence the word ILLUMINATI...the main open group who show his way forwards are the buddhists so I advise you to continue on your path and add some of their methods to it and you may live to ezxperience what jesus meant...From your perspective INSIGHT, if one wasn't following jesus by walking in the light then you are of the devil, right...of course not ...you are in darkness as i am...we know very very little of the real differences between the god figure the jesus figure or even the lucifer figure...The more we walk in the light the more knowledge comes to us(this will involve re assembling the junk dna and reforming the cells and reawaking our higher knowledge) ....If we must talk of esoteric stuff, lets talk about it properly...finish the anger will and open your heart chakra to step forwards...this alone will excel you in the game, and i must admit..these are only a few words to descibe(as I see it)the light . Use your intuition to know what it means...the light is here and now and we were all born to know this but only a few will realise it and evolve....as for lucifer....the story is much deeper than an enemy of god...when you know what god is then you can judge the lucifer person...I guess you belive jesus is real...do you believe lucifer is real...?????

Well let me break into another subject for us to talk of another time by asking you if ever you thought that jesus was lucifer....And just suppose they are the same person....now that means the bible is either misinterpreted or there is a heavy bible conspiracy going on....Also...what have humans done lately to be in God's good books? Or, why not spend our energies bringing people back together in the light of comradeship???
just a thought....Anyway I choose those who have been born to evolve in the light. Good, evil are two parts of a whole...it is the whole I am after...

The light is a vehicle to knowledge...on it's own it is useless but for a limited godhood...i.e. illuminati...with love and light iyou will reach your god...that is a different type of war is it not....if the majority of the world did join hands in peace that would be the biggest of weapons this earth had ever seen and there would be no need for a fascist NWO...instead a NWO of humanity ...

As for what I said about the cunning ruthlessness of the illuminati...I give them credit for being daring to pull off a wondrous caper...just the same as I would admire the great stratergies of any enemy of ally. They have caused me great misfortune and i would love to see them receive a great whooping to remind them of their position but time will tell on that one....I work my light...........

....lucifer, jesus ....whoever it's the same light, force, chi it gives one greater knowledge of this cosmos and greater abilities to effect it.

One is the source of deception. the other, the force of truth. This is black and white. Black absorbes light. They are not the same.



....it's the intention of the one or group using it that makes it all interesting....jesus said walk in the light.

he also says the He and He alone is the light of the world.


From your perspective INSIGHT, if one wasn't following jesus by walking in the light then you are of the devil, right.

No man is Lucifer. Walking not in The light of Jesus does not make one the father of deception. it merely makes one lost. Lucifer's light casts shadows. Evil can hide in shadows.


..of course not ...you are in darkness as i am.

I am guided by the Holy light, not the fallen light. We are all in darkness. Some, more than others.



..we know very very little of the real differences between the god figure the jesus figure or even the lucifer figure.

That couldn't be further form the truth. To even say that displays a enormous lack of knowledge regarding such a dangerous subject. God makes it VERY clear to us who he is, if we seek him. Very clear.


..The more we walk in the light the more knowledge comes to us(this will involve re assembling the junk dna and reforming the cells and reawaking our higher knowledge) ....If we must talk of esoteric stuff, lets talk about it properly...finish the anger will and open your heart chakra to step forwards...this alone will excel you in the game, and i must admit..these are only a few words to descibe(as I see it)the light .

Becareful what light you walk in. One is of truth, and casts no shadow. The other is of lies, and decieves all by imitating God.



Use your intuition to know what it means.

Earthly intuition is useless unless we follow hearts in which the spirit of God resides in. He and he alone can give us accurate decernment. Our personal intuition is faulty, and flawed, just as we are.



..the light is here and now and we were all born to know this but only a few will realise it and evolve....as for lucifer....the story is much deeper than an enemy of god.

Why? How do you now if you do not seek God?


..when you know what god is then you can judge the lucifer person.

It wirks both ways. When you KNOW what lucifer is, then you can see God. God is truth, mercy, peace. Lucifer is Deception, hate, and war. They are utter opposites. But you can only know what Lucifer TRUELY is by knmowing God and seeking him. God cannot lie. We cannot learn what God is by seeking Lucifer. Lucifer is the father of ALL deception.



...now that means the bible is either misinterpreted or there is a heavy bible conspiracy going on....Also...what have humans done lately to be in God's good books? Or, why not spend our energies bringing people back together in the light of comradeship???

Humans are not a force of benevolence. that is why we are divided by language and oceans. Together, we would destroy ourselves, and our notions of God. It happened once before at the Tower of Bable.



just a thought....Anyway I choose those who have been born to evolve in the light. Good, evil are two parts of a whole...it is the whole I am after...

Knowledge of Evil only comes through Knowledge of God. True knowledge of God cannot be found in evil, because evil decieves. Truth does not.

The light is a vehicle to knowledge.

Yes, it it. Knowledge is power, and power corrputs. WISDOM is the ability to properly use knowledge. And the only true means of obtaining uncorruptable wisdom is to seek the uncorruptable source: God.

..on it's own it is useless but for a limited godhood...i.e. illuminati...with love and light iyou will reach your god.

Man is not saved through works. Jesus Christ is the only path to God. God says many times that God IS love. Only by following the love of God, and the Light of God, may we reach him and be "saved".



..that is a different type of war is it not....if the majority of the world did join hands in peace that would be the biggest of weapons this earth had ever seen and there would be no need for a fascist NWO.

Man cannot unite unless forced to do so. Man needs not unite. Man only needs God. The force into unity can only come through fear and deceit. Fear and deceit can only come through Lucifer.


As for what I said about the cunning ruthlessness of the illuminati...I give them credit for being daring to pull off a wondrous caper.

Respect the enemy, but do not honor him.


..just the same as I would admire the great stratergies of any enemy of ally.

Admire, but not honor.


They have caused me great misfortune and i would love to see them receive a great whooping to remind them of their position but time will tell on that one....I work my light...........

Humans cannot obtain true light by their own works. Only through Jesus Christ can we see THE light. The, coming from the greek word Theos, meaning Of God. THE light refesrs to an absolute. I high above highs.

I seek to expose shadows cast by corruptable light. And I will continue to do so with the Light of God, which casts no shadow.

Insight. If you really want to know. I am the enemy of the weak 'n' complacent and friend of the strong who move to take living their future with control.

The week are controled by the strong. the weak are innocent of it. but the strong are responsible. You seek the side of power. Power corrupts.


I believe in the evolution happening right now and this is the time to wake up or be removed from this earth. I am also in belief of the battling system lords of other worlds around here right now whose purpose outshine that of humans...but that is my personal reality...

You seek to destroy personal power, and unite an ultimate power at the top of the pyramid. You are a possible and probable member of The Illuminati, and my dire enemy.

So I am with the enemy of the people, because without the current rulers, the humans would digress to spinless lazy people or do they need help in reversing this process.

You speak softly and confuse absolutes. I see through you now. Humans do not need leaders, the need JUST leaders. Leaders of pure and uncorrupted charactor. I see through you now.


I care deeply for the earth and a reduction of the vegetables here is in order of progress.

Spoken like a true member.


I was looking for signs of change in attitude, but I guess you are right. Apathy reigns and the apocalypse is now set without change. I am laughing at this all, as there is still time even today but nobody will change.....so bring in the earthquakes....

And you seek to control every surf board as we ride out the wave.

I must admit though I am on all sides,

A paradox, and a shadowing of absolutes. I see through you now.


I do love a good struggle for freedom and I also believe in the laws of natural selection....Thus those who secretly conspire to enslave an entire population while they advertise it deserve all the credit. Those who survive the onslaught and lie to see the light deserve the evolution given...

Now you bring me a healthy fear and ackowledgement of their movement. You expose yourself as the enemy and allow us to fight more valiently against you. Your words sound good, they sound logical, but I am not one who so easily is hypnotized by them. Nor are the people with me. We may not win, but we will be as a thorn in your side draining you power until we are all wiped out. At which point, the judgement of God shall fall upon this earth. this earth, which is in it's end of days.

And in your careful words, you have also exposed me as your enemy. Good job, because I only do it for the sake of others. I'm not sure if you understand, or know. But if this is your goal, to sniff us out, than you succeed. As did I. And what does a double victory do other than fan the flames of war.

Yes. I am your enemy and your friend. Because I prefer to give you my enemy metaphorical weapons to fight your good fight. Only to help you know yourself. Humans have already accepted their fate. I have to admit this to myself.





Light is light as dark is dark...light gives knowledge and informs as dark deceives or shows no knowledge...The figures of Jesus or Lucifer reveal the light to humans nomatter what false truths have been given to them....the confusion lies not in the darkness where humans live but in the use of the light for whatever purpose. I wonder how accurate the figure of jesus really is....he is a destroyer as lucifer...he is a creator just as lucifer...he brings knowledge to humans just as lucifer....he knows that the humans will fail just as lucifer....If he knows this just as you do then why is he not responsible for this as much as lucifer...the answer lies in dualism as it is with good and evil...I approach the whole picture to learn of the hidden...I keep no opinions on them two because my simple mind cannot appreciate their true magnificance which encompass the good and evil as part of the whole of them....Perhaps they are working together to create a new garden for a new breed of more perfect humans....I know i'm wasting my time to widen your views...but others are reading this too...


The pyramid you mention leads up to the prime creator itself...alway a community of the creator child(in learning)We assume personal power but we are the creator and it's power in animation. I think you are hinting at personal freedom...I prefer the freedom of all from their mental illness or for them to leave this place to those who can appreciate it.



You see, I love all creation because they remind me of the prime creator. I prefer harmony but love change...This batch of humans are proven weak as the need leaders to know how to be together...Is this not a weakness....Leaders lead forward, they are not for sorting out the symptoms of emotional and mental diseases...The plan is to have humans of character who know. thus the leaders will guide the new path as it should have been...sorry i see no fault in jesus or lucifer for admitting what current humans cannot become.






I am happy you can see through me and understand I need this paradox to view the bigger picture. Within it, 1 in 7 humans will awaken to their path...earthquakes will help a few more to leave this current life of nonliving...I seek to control a lot more than surf boards, but there are many who seek change and will find their way to the light....hmmm I think you have an anger that assumes me without questioning...I don't mind though. I can be your enemy if you wish...no problem...



I only want evolution...of the spirit...this mess of a civilization needs to reap as much a virtue to compensate the pain we agreed to go through...fight your good fight and others will marvel...heal your connection and others will marvel...no matter what path, others will learn and others be entertained by your validity....I must say that the illuminati have also been heavily duped and that figure lucifer/jesus their god is going to reverse his agreement with them because of their abusing of power on all levels....There is a whole different story going on and that bible confuses it all to benefit the dark, which makes sense really...If the dark rule then would they give hope to humans by promoting that book or would they send messages of chaos instead....makes sense to me...

So now I challenge you...the first time too...Do you believe the centuries of control by the dark would share with humans the story of the second coming....unless there was an alternative story they were hiding....well they are on trial...but not as you think...I need them a lesson to be taught...I NEED THEM CRUSHED...but yes I am your enemy...



Nobody is here to snuff anyone out...but to lead the evolution set by the prime creator...foolish are the ones who learn of the possibilities to grow up spiritually and continue to bicker and rant at how bad their neighbor is...those who win are those who work at it. You are just a moaner if you ain't doing as the higher humans do in preparation for the coming light....see the bigger picture and prepare your spirit by preparing your mind and body...If you have insight you will see sense in this...

Anyway do not mind me. Feel for your imediate neighbour as you awaken the new.


I just found a pointer to what i am hinting at, please take the following passage as i do, without opinion or judgemnet as we are not yet capable of knowing how factual this is...but from a supposed messenger of the light, here repeats as i have always known

C. THE “KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL"



RA: For example, consider the relative harmony and changing quality of existence in one of your primitive tribes. The entities have the concept of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable (unchanging) and all events occur as predestined. "There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome (colorless). (B4, 21)



D. LUCIFER IS NOT THE “DEVIL"

RA: In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the entities of this logos (galactic creator) from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment and also provided the impetus to move, to work, and to learn. (B4, 21)



[Note: In other words, the presence of the negative forces provided the catalyst for growth, giving the knowledge of polarity and evil. By creating such intense struggle and hardship, the Luciferian force stimulated desire for change and growth in otherwise harmonious but slow-advancing cultures.]


http://www.spiritofra.com/Ra-section%203.htm

I also thank you INSIGHT for leading me to this web page...keep up the good fight...

The pyramid you mention leads up to the prime creator itself.

Wow. You really are one of them. I didn't believe it until this very moment.




You see, I love all creation because they remind me of the prime creator.

Speak the name of the prime creator.



I am happy you can see through me and understand I need this paradox to view the bigger picture. Within it, 1 in 7 humans will awaken to their path...earthquakes will help a few more to leave this current life of nonliving...I seek to control a lot more than surf boards, but there are many who seek change and will find their way to the light....hmmm I think you have an anger that assumes me without questioning...I don't mind though. I can be your enemy if you wish...no problem...

I have no wish for enemies. But know that I will die for what IS right.



I only want evolution...of the spirit.

There is only life or death of the spirit. There is no change. But I think you fully realize this fact.

fight your good fight and others will marvel.

This is not MY fight. This is God's fight. No one will marvel at me. They will marvel at God. All glory is to him. I am but a human, who knows what he is.



I must say that the illuminati have also been heavily duped and that figure lucifer/jesus their god is going to reverse his agreement with them because of their abusing of power on all levels.

Either you are decieved in this, or you have just spoken deception. Though I cannot decide which, I recognize both.



...There is a whole different story going on and that bible confuses it all to benefit the dark, which makes sense really...If the dark rule then would they give hope to humans by promoting that book or would they send messages of chaos instead....makes sense to me...

Words of the serpent. And I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.

So now I challenge you...the first time too...Do you believe the centuries of control by the dark would share with humans the story of the second coming....unless there was an alternative story they were hiding.

More words from the serpent.

The powers of darkness hide nothing from the eyes of God, nor from his children. His word is a light to our feet, and a guide to our path. And I am a servent unto him.


...well they are on trial...but not as you think...I need them a lesson to be taught...I NEED THEM CRUSHED...but yes I am your enemy...

Nobody is here to snuff anyone out...but to lead the evolution set by the prime creator.

Speak the name of the prime creator.

..foolish are the ones who learn of the possibilities to grow up spiritually and continue to bicker and rant at how bad their neighbor is...those who win are those who work at it. You are just a moaner if you ain't doing as the higher humans do in preparation for the coming light.

I know of what is to come. And I know I cannot stop it. I know I will probably die trying. And I know God will avenge me.




Feel for your imediate neighbour as you awaken the new.

Speak the name of this awakening. I have already been born again. Speak the name of the awakening you refer to.


but from a supposed messenger of the light,

This messenger of light is that of the demonic, and is not of Go


D. LUCIFER IS NOT THE “DEVIL"

RA: In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the entities of this logos (galactic creator) from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment and also provided the impetus to move, to work, and to learn. (B4, 21)

Whosoever believes in Jesus Christ will have eternal life.


I also thank you INSIGHT for leading me to this web page...keep up the good fight...

T'was not me that led you to it, but the spirits at work within you. Do not cast your evil upon my shoulders in the eyes of these other men. You are accountable to God for your actions and your words. Not me.

It's because it's too F#%*ing BIG and we as individuals are too small.
I say, send the BIG GUNS in!

I guess you answered my e-mail here. Controversial you are.

GREAT JOB!
My fight appears a futile one but it is not, but I am so tired.
Now I feel guilt.

We are so small many of those on the top who know of the future have not the imagination to grap the vision of it...in other words, perhaps you have chosen a future when many are equally possible. To understand this shows insight of the capability of the light. This earth is a palace ofthe mind.....reality is changing...just part of the light messenger's worth.

Yes I am of Serpent and a lot more. but so are all hu,man. The prime creator created slaughter death and chaos and decay as creations to be as beautiful and equally valid as new seedings collaborations and inventions in creation like the rose petal and feather.( I guess you agree with this as you believe your individual consciousness will be destroyed at death and your body will decay as God planned it). Hence the NWO is needed in the grand plan to help replace the current fallen humans ,unless the human society is needed to rise against tyranny and justify their existence(I personally believe both, bring on the stronger human community, the old have no respect for this earth). Either victor has already been chosen by your GOD or the prime creator (prime respecting the fact that all of us in the hiarachy are creators from an original source, including the decaying systems of consciousness).



Nobody NEEDS to die this time...isn't this in your book...we are increasing in light....but to understand that...well/????

Also, as some spirits return to the creator, others evolve to new creative ability, hence we evolve through knowledge or use of the light...but I guess we will agree to disagree on this one. And the Illuminati say Lucifer is great, as he brings knowledge of the light....will you ever get close to understanding what I am hinting at...are ther any angels around to clue him a truth...It is not the user it is you....forget the enemy or do as they do ILLUMINATI....learn of the light. it is internal as the god force is within all.





I think the weakness is that not everything in god's creation is in the bible...there are reasons why humans do not know everything, one reason is to pawn them in the game...you play your part, I play mine. I just know about the mistakes of greed with ancient power lines the Royal bloodlines and other members will be punished for, and you don't. I won't prove myself only to tell you that there are many other things about the future you seem not to have ability to accommodate as possible. Need to know basis with the bible...nothing new, just do as i say stuff created by the serpents and their masters but I think it would shatter you to find out about that and the Serpent links with King James (all European Royal bloodlines have stong serpent links)and the Roman Emporer Constantine. That is why there are no longer any lessons in that book or excersises explaining the Light and it's purpose and how to grow with it.



I guess you don't see my sarcasm...what I meant was Why would that dark devil allow the continuation of a book to give humans hope and a saviour to bring them back to god....If I was your version of Lucifer I would have burned that book . why did Lucifer allow humans to populate the word of his enemy and advertise the weakness of Lucifer. Or is there something missing we do not know. ...so he should have destroyed that book in it's infantcy...now why did that not happen??? I am sure you will have an answer to that.


In fact this is a pointless exchange of words. So I will close here and ask you to believe as you do and also have mind to realise that God also has other plans with earth far beyond yours or any human conception so keep an open mind.....

Yes I am of Serpent and a lot more.

Then you know the language that you are speaking. I was once a duck in a feild of flowers. A serpent came and gave me yellow light, and I became a purple seed. Now I seek Red.

If you know the language, you will understand what I said.


Hence the NWO is needed in the grand plan to help replace the current fallen humans,

No one has fallen further than those on the pedistal of power.


unless the human society is needed to rise against tyranny and justify their existence

Whose existence are you reffering to justifying?


Either victor has already been chosen by your GOD or the prime creator (prime respecting the fact that all of us in the hiarachy are creators from an original source, including the decaying systems of consciousness).

Speak the name of the prime creator. Do you know it?


Nobody NEEDS to die this time...isn't this in your book...we are increasing in light....but to understand that...well????

Define death.

Also, as some spirits return to the creator, others evolve to new creative ability,

I do not accept that. There is nothing new under the sun.

And the Illuminati say Lucifer is great, as he brings knowledge of the light.

Knwoledge is not the same as wisdom. Knowledge is not the same as truth. GOD is truth. Lucifer IS deception.

...will you ever get close to understanding what I am hinting at...are ther any angels around to clue him a truth...It is not the user it is you....forget the enemy or do as they do ILLUMINATI....learn of the light. it is internal as the god force is within all.

There are two cources of light. Two of power. Two if internal divinity. One we are born with. The other we must be re-born with. I know the differnce between the two.



I think the weakness is that not everything in god's creation is in the bible.

Untrue. He accounts for everything. but he does not instruct us on how to manipulate and control everything.

God keeps some secrets to himself, to protect us from ourselves. Human beings must learn from childhood for a reason. We are not born with knowledge. We must choose our ways.

..there are reasons why humans do not know everything, one reason is to pawn them in the game...you play your part, I play mine. I just know about the mistakes of greed with ancient power lines the Royal bloodlines and other members will be punished for, and you don't.

I know of the blood lines. I know of the controllers of Israel and the Nephilum. I know the controllers of man. The controllers of money. And the bloodlines, and the lines of power.

I won't prove myself only to tell you that there are many other things about the future you seem not to have ability to accommodate as possible. Need to know basis with the bible...nothing new, just do as i say stuff created by the serpents

If you spoke the language, you would know the serpent is not a creative being. He can only immitate creation. And creation can only be created by the true God.

and their masters but I think it would shatter you to find out about that and the Serpent links with King James (all European Royal bloodlines have stong serpent links)and the Roman Emporer Constantine.

I know of the lines of power. My foundation remains solid.

Those who seek to destroy God can never succeed. His truth is eternal. Those who seek to control his word cannot succeed. His reveals truths to his children. Those who immitate him cannot live. And by doing so, those who follow death must die. I am covered by the blood of Christ.

That is why there are no longer any lessons in that book or excersises explaining the Light and it's purpose and how to grow with it.

Do not make the mistake of believing God is powerless. He speaks to me and reveals his truths. I need not the words from Man, but the words from God. Man shall not live by bread alone.



I guess you don't see my sarcasm...what I meant was Why would that dark devil allow the continuation of a book to give humans hope and a saviour to bring them back to god.

Because Lucifer has no power over God.


...If I was your version of Lucifer I would have burned that book .

The book can be erased, but the words of God spoken into a man's heart cannot die, for God is eternal, and God is truth. God protects his flock from the wiles of the enemy. The enemy is as a roaring lion, consuming everything in his path.



why did Lucifer allow humans to populate the word of his enemy and advertise the weakness of Lucifer.

He did not allow it. God did.

Speak the name of the prime creator. If you can.



Or is there something missing we do not know. ...so he should have destroyed that book in it's infantcy...now why did that not happen??? I am sure you will have an answer to that.

An answer is only as stable as the present allows it to be. Should my answer fail in time, the Lord my God shall reveal me anew.

In fact this is a pointless exchange of words. So I will close here and ask you to believe as you do and also have mind to realise that God also has other plans with earth far beyond yours or any human conception so keep an open mind.....

Even with these human words we can conjur up a thing beyond our comprehension. But beyond what we can conjur lies the truth behind our words. That truth is God himself. My mind remains open to but one thing: The Holy Spirit of God. Without God, not anything was made that was made.

Yes. I am your enemy and your friend. Because I prefer to give you my enemy metaphorical weapons to fight your good fight.

I already know the language. The "metaphors" if you will. And I know what the letters mean as well. You give me nothing I do not already have.

Only to help you know yourself. Humans have already accepted their fate. I have to admit this to myself.

You must have read plato's republic very thoroughly. You must also own a 65' Oxford Dictionary. Plato said you will never meet a human who knows what he is. I know what I am. And I have never met Plato.

You speak in overconfidence because you have learned the language. I was once you. But you may never be me.

You see what you want to see or what you are capable of seeing....you saw the serpent giving you yellow...others see gold or green each to their own level of spiritual developement...just as the future of all on this earth....if you look for destruction, you will find it...if you seek evolution, you will find it., in fact it was you who took the yellow light. I am sure you need more time to corrolate and make wisdom of what you know,.

...also if you did attempt to understand my sentence you would have understood the full sentence....then not assume but ask.

'Yes I am OF the serpent and a LOT MORE'.


I also know that a fallen angel has fallen from the realm of low density spirit world to the dense 3d earth...only a transformation to arrive into the corrupted earth but that is my interpretation....the fallen human is the same but they have fallen from knowledge thus wisdom also....so start blaming your lack of wisdom instead of characters from a corrupted book...

You see what you want to see or what you are capable of seeing.

And by denying my flesh, I begin to stop seeing what I want to see, and begin seeing in the spirit. This increases what I am capable of seeing.

...you saw the serpent giving you yellow...others see gold or green each to their own level of spiritual developement.

There is only one language.

..just as the future of all on this earth....if you look for destruction,

I look for life. And I have found it.


you will find it...if you seek evolution, you will find it., in fact it was you who took the yellow light. I am sure you need more time to corrolate and make wisdom of what you know.

I was one who took it. The serpent was one who offered. I had given him authority over my life through my shortcomings, and he came to me because of it. I no longer give him such power in my life. Though I may have fallen, I am forgiven for my trangressions by the blood of Jesus Christ. I use all knowledge and wisdom to his glory.



Do you know the language? I look for no destrution. I look for life. I took the yellow light because it was offered to me, and I knew not what it was, and desired to know such. I was the only one of my friends with the capacity to comprehend it. And now I am learning to use it for the Glory of God, in any means possible.

Why are you unable to speak the name of the prime creator? Answer me this.



I also know that a fallen angel has fallen from the realm of low density spirit world to the dense 3d earth...only a transformation to arrive into the corrupted earth but that is my interpretation....the fallen human is the same but they have fallen from knowledge thus wisdom also....so start blaming your lack of wisdom instead of characters from a corrupted book...

I blame myself for my faults of course. But my wisdom comes from God. I blame any lack of it on my corruptable and evil nature, and the sins of my fathers. I blame my personal evils on nothing. But I do cast blame of the father of lies. I do blame the father of lies for temptation. My foundation is rock solid, and cannot be shaken. God speaks truth to me beyond anything a corruptable book can tell me. It matters not what the words of men say. It matters not what the hands of men have written. It matters what GODS words to ME say. And he speaks them to me everyday. My faith shall not faulter, but be made stronger in persecution.

You are testing me, and I am testing you.

o_O this is proving to be a rather unnusual read...

I bellieve we may profit more by taking responsiblity, instead of finding fault...by doing so we accept the power to do the right thing and we cannot hide behind weakness....


The light has many colours or uses....those who know see one colour those who know more see another colour....It is a matter of choice to take, it is a matter of responsibility to use the light, hence your vision of the holy war on the so called 'evil doers' who are as valid as you and me because your god put them there.......for a massive reason.....I wonder what that is?????

Prime creator does not need a name for me to believe it's existence. I accept is has all of this as itself, i also accept it as a child learning from it's abilities, to know.....


INSIGHT. You must have realised who I am by now, it's in your intuition babe...... I am glad You are chasing for LIFE, the bar code is a test. There is planned a lot of stuff. it is planned to be very exciting indeed, we all scrambled to be born here and now. I cannot tell you how I know all this, take it as hear say. But I know. No one needs to die, reality is going to bend. If you stick to what you believe the most positive mind, you will win, even if it is beyond death, and even that will be spectacular, really, as long as you keep your mind open to possible massive change of your idea of this place...., that is....I'm outta here...i can say nothing else unless PM....so onwards....

I agree....Humans are can be very careless and stupid...Yet some think very well.......In my opinion I think humans are so profain in social conversations....Ok if im not sticking to the topic sry cuz Im Completely LOST! LOL

Then who or what do you blame your "personal evils" on?

LoneWeatherWolf, I greatly appreciate you opinions and insights regarding this subject. I would love to be able to discuss this with you further, but there is so much you need to learn for my statements to make any sense. I hope you will not take any offense to this. You are very young and still live in innocence. If it were up to me, you'd stay innocent forever. We all would. I cannot say a whole lot more regarding this I'm afraid.

But I will say mto you, I blame my evils on a few parts: My own ignorance, my own selfish use of knowledge and wisdom, The father of deception, and the very existance of evil it's self.

As long as their is religion there will be wars.


Because almost every known war involves religion.