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Nobody
My boss send this email to us today.
I have omitted the pictures.
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The following (first two) pictures are of a guy who works for the US Forest Service in Alaska and his trophy bear. He was out deer  hunting last week when a large grizzly bear charged him from about 50 yards away.  The guy unloaded his 7mm Mag Semi-automatic rifle into the bear and it dropped a few feet from him. The big bear was still alive so he reloaded and shot it several times in the head. The bear was just over one thousand six hundred pounds (1600#). It stood 12' 6" high at the shoulder, 14' to the top of his head. It's the largest grizzly bear ever recorded in the world. Of course, the Alaska Fish and Wildlife Commission did not let him keep it as a trophy, but the bear will be stuffed and mounted, and placed on display at the Anchorage airport (to remind tourist's of the risks involved when in the wild). Based on the contents of the bears stomach, the Fish and Wildlife Commission  established the bear had killed at least two humans in the past 72 hours.  His last meal was the unlucky nature buff in the third picture below.  The US Forest Service, back-tracking from where the bear had originated, found the hiker's 38-caliber pistol emptied. Not far from the pistol was the remains of the hiker. The other body has not been found. Although the hiker fired six shots and managed to hit the grizzly with four shots (they ultimately found four 38 caliber slugs along with twelve 7mm slugs inside the bear's dead body) it only wounded the bear and probably angered it. The bear killed the hiker an estimated two days prior to the bear's own death by the gun of the Forest Service worker.  Think about this - If you are an average size man; you would be level with the bear's belly button when he stood upright, the bear would look you in the eye when it walked on all fours! To give additional perspective, consider that this particular bear, standing on its hind legs, could walk up to an average single story house and look over the roof, or walk up to a two story house and look in the bedroom windows.


Later I found this link; ohmy.gif
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-grizzlybear5.htm
*** warning the third picture is a dead person ***

The real story is that a black bear 10 feet long (3 meters) from head to tail, lived in the woods undiscovered until it was shoot. Now if a bear that wights well over 1000 pounds (454 kg) can live in Alaska undiscovered. Why can't any other smaller mammal not do so as well?
Pendekar Timur
wow.... ohmy.gif
what a great big bear.... blink.gif

Diebytheflyguy
Wasn't that proven to be fake?
*~MindBeast~*
Speaking of Alaskian bears:

Did you see the story of the man that went bear hunting in alaska, He shot a average sized brown bear. As he approached the bear after the shoot, A Grizzly bear 10' tall came up behind him.
The Grizzly said " You shot my cousin, Now I must have relations with you."
And so he did....
2 Months later the man still very sore and very anti-bear decided to go back and seek his revenge.
He shot a brown bear and ran to it with seething anticipation. Thats when he heard a noise behind him. It was the great grizzly! "You shot my cousin" The grizzly said "Now I must have relations with you."
And so he did....
2 Months later the man very very sore and very very anti-bear decided that this was ridiculus, He was going to get his revenge and kill every bear that he could!
He flew back to Alaska ready to destroy every bear that he encountered. A couple of hours into the trip he spotted another brown bear graising on berrys. With a wide grin and deep hatred he lowered his rifle and fired.
The he heard a noise behind him, It was the great griizzly.
The grizzly looked at the man and said, "You know..You dont really come up here for the hunting..Do you?

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Deimos
It sounds like the God Bear of Komchatka
Mad Manfred
That picture with the guy with the chewed leg has been circulating the net for about a decade...the most popular theory is cannibals or lions.

The bear pic looks a little fake...can't be 100% sure though.
lego jedi
i never seen it before tho.
that bear was massive OMG wouldnt want to meet him ...anywhere lol
Kierra
I wonder what he eats to get big like that.
Fluffybunny
QUOTE(Kierra @ Nov 5 2004, 04:46 PM)
I wonder what he eats to get big like that.
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as the old joke goes: "Anything he wants..."
riotboy555
WOW. I didn't know bears got to be that big.
Tia
I went to the african lion safari years ago when it use to be open. It's basically a drive thru animal park.
The thing I remember most was going thru the bear enclosure, they were huge. ohmy.gif
Clobhair-cean
The bear was not that big as seen on the first picture, it's only a because of the perspective... Here's another image of the same "teddy", and it looks less enormous on it... Still the picture is not fake and the story has just a few inaccurate details(the urban legend sites are right).


HugeBear
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(Clobhair-cean @ Nov 6 2004, 09:18 AM)
The bear was not that big as seen on the first picture, it's only a because of the perspective... Here's another image of the same "teddy", and it looks less enormous on it... Still the picture is not fake and the story has just a few inaccurate details(the urban legend sites are right).


HugeBear
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Your picture of the bear, and Nobody's picture of the bear are two, completley different bears. Yours looks more realistic, and is smaller than Nobody's pic of the bear. The guys in the background look like they were added into the pic, do they not? (Anyone who knows photoshop)

This bear has no ears, and is the bigger one:
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This bear is smaller, and has ears. The shape of the face looks different too:
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Kryso
This has been posted before; and was proven (supposedly) to be fake. Also the image of the leg being chewed off, the mans jeans are around his feet! Did he get caught out while having a dump, or did the bear pull his trousers down first? blink.gif
Mad Manfred
Diebytheflyguy, I don't honestly think it's a fake and I'm usually a skeptical kinda guy.

I do however believe that the cameraman (in the first shot) took the photo from right in front of the bear's snout with the other man in the background making it appear to be twice as large as it is.
Clobhair-cean
i'd like to defend my point... It would be senseless to me to think that some guys saw the pic of the huge bear, after they shot another(smaller) one, dragged it to the place where the first was pictured, aligned it to be in the same position, the photoshopped two guys behind it... the two bears are the same, the size of the first is just a photo trick with the perspective. The terrain, the stone on which the head is placed is the same, and the size of the paws are the same compared to the original second pic. The paw is not that extremely huge, too. i've seen a tiger with paws slightly bigger than a man's head, and the teddies are bigger than tigers...
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(Clobhair-cean @ Nov 7 2004, 05:24 AM)
i'd like to defend my point... It  would  be senseless to me to think that some guys saw the pic of the huge bear, after they shot another(smaller) one, dragged it to the place where the first was pictured, aligned it to be in the same position, the photoshopped two guys behind it... the two bears are the same, the size of the first is just a photo trick with the perspective. The terrain, the stone on which the head is placed is the same, and the size of the paws are the same compared to the original second pic. The paw is not that extremely huge, too. i've seen a tiger with paws slightly bigger than a man's head, and the teddies are bigger than tigers...
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Thats not it at all. They probably shot the bear, or found it dead, and took two pictures of it. They photoshopped each picture they took to make the bear bigger. Why does the first picutre of the bear (in my previous post) have no ears, when the second picture does. It seems like they forgot to add it in when they were editing the pic.
Socol
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Why does the first picutre of the bear (in my previous post) have no ears, when the second picture does. It seems like they forgot to add it in when they were editing the pic.

It is fake.


Diebytheflyguy, I believe you have failed to see the ears therefore I have pointed them out in the photo below. Furthermore, your accusation of the photo being faked is incorrect. It may be your opinion, however, there are no evidence supporting the idea of it being photoshopped.


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JennRose
Yes, I think the pic is real, just some forced perspective on the first one. The second pic looks a lot more normal.

I've seen these pictures before, and am very curious about the real story behind the gruesome 'chewed up' leg. The forest around it looks like the Pacific NorthWest, or at least a hardwood forest. A bear would definately be a likely culprit. blink.gif
Diebytheflyguy
After some research I can conclude that I was wrong, and that this picture is genuine. Heres a link. The picture of the man who was eaten had nothing to do with this bear.
Fluffybunny
This is what snopes.com has on the three photos:
Claim: Photographs show an enormous bear killed by an Alaskan hunter.

Status: True.
Origins: The basic story here is true although some of the details are wrong, perhaps because two different recent incidents of very large bear killings in Alaska have been conflated into one.

The bear pictured above was killed in November 2001 by a hunter (not a Forest Service employee) who came across it while he was deer-hunting in Alaska. As he described the event on the message board at HuntingNet.com:
My partner and I ran into the unexpected . . . "BIG ARSE URSUS"! The bear was shot 10 yards away (no zeros missing in that figure my friends) in the head with a .338 Remington Winnie, using 250 grain Nosler handloads, followed up with two shots to the vitals. A very quick clean death.

We were working up a creek, headed for the mountains to hunt blacktail. He was coming down the creek, hunting for the last of the spawning Coho in the creek. We initially spotted him from 40 yds off. As a matter of fact we were glassing the bear over the high brush just behind the bear when we spotted him.
Here's another photograph of the hunters posing with their ursine prey:


The pictures of the November 2001 shooting became confused with a later account of a killing, also in Alaska, of another very large bear. This incident, as described by the Associated Press, took place on 21 April 2002 in Anchorage:
Sigfredo Casiano, 28, was hiking to a camp site near Swanson River Road Sunday morning when he heard a noise in nearby woods. Initially, Casiano thought a moose was making the noise but he removed the safety from his rifle as a precaution, troopers said.

Soon after, a brown bear appeared about 10 feet away and began moving toward him.

Casiano fired one shot with his rifle, striking the bear behind the skull. The bear collapsed and Casiano man fired several more shots.

The bear was described as a male between eight and nine feet tall.

A moose carcass was found nearby and the bear was probably protecting the find, troopers said.
The pictures shown above are from November 2001; none of them is a photo of the bear killed by Sigfredo Casiano in April 2002.

In 2003 another photograph began to be circulatedin conjunction with the pictures shown above, purportedly showing a human victim who was the bear's "last meal":

Although this is a genuine photograph of human remains gnawed by one or more animals, it has nothing to do with the bear pictured above. This photograph comes from a completely different source and was only tacked on as an addendum to the bear story after both had been circulating independently for over a year.

Last updated: 18 October 2004
Link to Snopes article about the bear photos
SilverCougar
you know... Kodiaks do get that big... They're the grizzly's closest relitives... more then likely they shot one of those and decided to call it a grizzly for "added effect"

Mind you, the Cave and Shortfaced bears were bigger then a Kodiak. Granted, they're extinct.
DJ_5150
I hate how the bears always seem to be picked on, and I don't understand why someone would hunt bear in the first place ? I know some people eat bear
but I don't see the point when we have domesticated livestock ?
Plus eating bear would be disgusting. Grizzly bears are an endangered species we need to think about this whole hunting bears thing. sad.gif
SilverCougar
QUOTE(DJ_5150 @ Nov 8 2004, 08:07 PM)
I hate how the bears always seem to be picked on, and I don't understand why someone would hunt bear in the first place ? I know some people eat bear
but I don't see the point when we have domesticated livestock ?
Plus eating bear would be disgusting. Grizzly bears are an endangered species we need to think about this whole hunting bears thing. sad.gif
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To them, it's a sport.
DJ_5150
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Nov 8 2004, 12:14 PM)
QUOTE(DJ_5150 @ Nov 8 2004, 08:07 PM)
I hate how the bears always seem to be picked on, and I don't understand why someone would hunt bear in the first place ? I know some people eat bear
but I don't see the point when we have domesticated livestock ?
Plus eating bear would be disgusting. Grizzly bears are an endangered species we need to think about this whole hunting bears thing. sad.gif
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To them, it's a sport.
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It takes nothing to kill a bear these days. Theres guns that have scopes that can see so far the bear won't even no what hit it. It just seems so stupid.
Nobody
Seem like I lost the point of the post. The first story is an urban legend that came to life on the internet. It did grow from a true story.

The real story is about a black bear that is 'huge' by any standards and not bigger than the 'record size' bear found in that area.

Follow the links from the hoax website to the original story.
The bear would have to be very old.
How many other bears are there that big or larger even?
How many of these bears are ever seen or reported?
If a bear that big can go unnotice in Alaska, what other creature can go unnotice too?

Notice that it was a 'Black Bear' not a grizzly or a kodiak, which are larger.
Deimos
Damn, that poor guy was really chewed up. I'm sticking with my God Bear theory
Eb0la
The bear is real.. perspective is the thing.. I live in Northern BC Canada and have been to Alaska and there is some damn frightening BIG BIG Bears...
Gabriel
i think the bear pic are real the leg thing i never heard of that part.

i like the god bear look on it im part souix and can see where ur comming from.

hunter: whats that up there?

Smokey: can't we get some proper lighting in this forest, i said de-caf dumb Bunny!

hunter: hes as big as my mother-in-law!

Smokey: only you.... naaa.... Only You Can.. nope.....

hunter: i got a good shot
director: ok smokey 3,2,1 action
smokey: Only You can prev BAM!!!! Thud!
Nobody
QUOTE(Eb0la @ Nov 10 2004, 03:17 PM)
The bear is real.. perspective is the thing.. I live in Northern BC Canada and have been to Alaska and there is some damn frightening BIG BIG Bears...
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Whats the biggest live bear you have seen?
Graphixman
I know the bear your talking about, it's been circulating the net for sometime. Though I'm very familiar with photoshopping, grizzlies do get very G.D. big up in Alaska and the Canadian Yukon Territory.
Area69
That's right, Mad Manfred. You explained why the bear looks larger in the first picture perfectly.

It is the same bear in both pictures, and it's very real.

I have no idea why anyone on earth would carry a .38 Special into the wild of Alaska to protect them from a bear attack, when something like a 10mm Glock could be carried around just as easily. There are also pistols now that can drop elephants (S&W 500 Magnum, any pistol chambered in 454 Casull), so I'd think one would be a lot better off carrying one of those (the S&W500 and 454 will drop about any bear on earth with one shot, two at the most, a gun magazine hunter took one to Africa and dropped an African Cape Buffalo with one shot from the 500, fully penetrating the animal from one side through the other, and then he dropped an African Grey with two shots from 40 yards away... and yes, they did give all of the meat from the animals to local residents so they were not out brutally killing the animals just to do it cruelly).

I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you're gonna backpack through Alaska, carry at least a 10mm pistol as your last resort (the 7mm Magnum rifle is a really strong round, so it not dropping the bear is kind of surprising).
Clobhair-cean
I think a good-old .50 Action Express-firing Desert Eagle is also suitable... It stops anything, even a falling tree grin2.gif If you can aim with it properly grin2.gif
Joe013
the pictures definitely look photoshopped to me...the texture of the guys are different than the bear, as well as the light/color
Diebytheflyguy
Joe, you couldn't bother look a page back, and see these posts:
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Nov 7 2004, 10:00 PM)
This is what snopes.com has on the three photos:
Claim:  Photographs show an enormous bear killed by an Alaskan hunter.

Status:  True.
Origins:  The basic story here is true although some of the details are wrong, perhaps because two different recent incidents of very large bear killings in Alaska have been conflated into one.

The bear pictured above was killed in November 2001 by a hunter (not a Forest Service employee) who came across it while he was deer-hunting in Alaska. As he described the event on the message board at HuntingNet.com:
My partner and I ran into the unexpected . . . "BIG ARSE URSUS"! The bear was shot 10 yards away (no zeros missing in that figure my friends) in the head with a .338 Remington Winnie, using 250 grain Nosler handloads, followed up with two shots to the vitals. A very quick clean death.

We were working up a creek, headed for the mountains to hunt blacktail. He was coming down the creek, hunting for the last of the spawning Coho in the creek. We initially spotted him from 40 yds off. As a matter of fact we were glassing the bear over the high brush just behind the bear when we spotted him.
Here's another photograph of the hunters posing with their ursine prey:


The pictures of the November 2001 shooting became confused with a later account of a killing, also in Alaska, of another very large bear. This incident, as described by the Associated Press, took place on 21 April 2002 in Anchorage:
Sigfredo Casiano, 28, was hiking to a camp site near Swanson River Road Sunday morning when he heard a noise in nearby woods. Initially, Casiano thought a moose was making the noise but he removed the safety from his rifle as a precaution, troopers said.

Soon after, a brown bear appeared about 10 feet away and began moving toward him.

Casiano fired one shot with his rifle, striking the bear behind the skull. The bear collapsed and Casiano man fired several more shots.

The bear was described as a male between eight and nine feet tall.

A moose carcass was found nearby and the bear was probably protecting the find, troopers said.
The pictures shown above are from November 2001; none of them is a photo of the bear killed by Sigfredo Casiano in April 2002.

In 2003 another photograph began to be circulatedin conjunction with the pictures shown above, purportedly showing a human victim who was the bear's "last meal":

Although this is a genuine photograph of human remains gnawed by one or more animals, it has nothing to do with the bear pictured above. This photograph comes from a completely different source and was only tacked on as an addendum to the bear story after both had been circulating independently for over a year.

Last updated:  18 October 2004
Link to Snopes article about the bear photos
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QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Nov 7 2004, 09:54 PM)
After some research I can conclude that I was wrong, and that this picture is genuine. Heres a link. The picture of the man who was eaten had nothing to do with this bear.
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Really now, 3 pages aren't alot to look though.
Hylian
Mad Manfred whats up whith Korn.
Raistlin Majere
THERE'S GOTTA BE GIANT MAMALS UNDER THE EARTH'S CRUST DIGGING IN ...STUFF!
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