Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me figure this out.....In my friends apartment building there is a couple STRONG spirits and I am trying to pinpoint if they are bad or good.. If you have any advice please respond thanx

Mysticalstargazer I would think (allthough I am not an expert)that spirits like people are mostly not inherently good or bad but a little of both .

What kind of things are happening for you to feel that there apartment is occupied by spirits?

I guess I would say that, if the spirits smile at you, bring you chocolates and make
the place tidy, that they're probably good spirits.

On the other hand, if they shout obscenities at you, make you jump and moon you
on occasion, then chances are they're not good.

well there is a chilly feeling when i walk in that apartment. it feels like a freezer when you walk in. I need to find out WHAT it is for sure

Ever thought or under-flooring heating?

it could be anything, drafts do not have to be ghosts, although that is a sign of hauntings also.


it could be that you have tiles under the carpets or that there are small gaps in the window casings causing drafts. That type of thing

Don't get us wrong Mysticalstargazer , nobody is trying to take the mickey out of you . We would like to help you but we need to make sure there are no other reasons for the things that are going on before we can do anything else . Keep us posted.

Sorry Kismit and MysticalStarGazer but I am kinda taking the Michael.

So far all we know is that you think there are spirits in your friend's apartment and
that it's cold there. That's hardly rock solid evidence of a paranormal infestation, is
it?

MysticalStarGazer please provide more information and tell us what's happened there.
Surely it's more than the above.

from my journeys, i have encoutered many spirits. THe true way to tell if there bad or godd is one really complex procedure. You must gather these ingredients.

1) Plain white candle

2) 1 lilly flower

3) grapes(to offer the spirit)

At 12:00 Pm lite the candle with a Lily flower next to it. The grapes should be out on a counter. As soon as it turns 12:30, Throw the lily flower on top of the candle. AS soon as it finishes burning the ghost will appear. From this point, simply ask!:0
NO BULL

any particular type of lily or grape

And why does it have to be 12:30, and why do you have to burn the lily? And yes does it have to be a particular Lily?? An arum<sp> or Stardock? And grapes green red,? And what size candle a church candle, a votive one???

I ask these Questions cos the way that you described it was

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THe true way to tell if there bad or godd is one really complex procedure

And what you've put doesn't seem to be complex at all?

does the spirits prefer their grapes with or without seeds

You crack me up, Druss!!

And I'm sorry Poltergeist Sighter but that whole procedure just sounds too hokey to
be anything more than showmanship of the worst kind.

I have encountered spirits and I know a lot of psychic people and mediums and
spiritually sensitive souls. None of that fancy candlework, flowers or grape stuff is
necessary to communicate with spirits. Just meditate or downright ask them out
loud. All that's required is an open mind and a couragous attitude.

And if they whisper 'boo' in your ear - then they're either really bad spirits or just
spirits who like to have a laugh...

Actually, the spirits that hang around me
really prefer incense.

Not to diss what you just said, KC, but if the spirits wanted to be with you,
would it matter that you were burning incense? Like, would they not come over
if you didn't have a stick burning?




Why am I so argumentative lately?
(scratches chin and refers to his biorhythm chart)

LB


This is very true and obviously by not registering, it makes even more of a Hokey thing to do......I just ask or I tend to move in to a place where there are some....


@ KC.....

QUOTE (Loonboy @ Mar 4 2003, 10:23 PM)

but if the spirits wanted to be with you,

Hell, if she was wearing anything even remotely close to what her avatar is at the moment, I'd be around her all the time, in any form and let me tell you, incense wouldn't be the only thing burning. *drool, slobber

* - On a more serious note, how exactly would a spirit consume a grape, never mind the embarrasing problem of ghost poop.

Trust you MM

lol@druss. you are cracking me up

I guess I was just sorta caught up in the
moment. Comparing candles to incense,
apples to oranges....I mean grapes.


(thanks for the notice of my avatar MM)

spacy, i didnt know what your avatar was supposed to be, i thought maybe a funny streched face.....but now i can see the bikini

It could be mistaken for two eyes and a
big grin.

Now those are eyes I could stare into for days without blinking.

@ KC and MM

Aw MM, that would be so romantic, but
you're looking in the wrong place!

You're right, KC, how embarrassing, where are my manners?

Your grin is quite beguiling, also.

MM

now I'm the one who's blushing

im a bit new to this site but i can tell you that most people say that if the ghost or spirit is evil there is usully a smell of rotten eggs dont know if its true

well to everyone who posted


I know that it is a spirit...I am trained in spirits....I am not full of crap... And thank you for the lily thing.....The floors in the apartment building are rock solid and all of the apartments are warm when no one lives there because of there not being air on.....I dont know what else to tell you but ask for whatever details you need

just wanted to ask does anything strange go on what sort of things are happening, one of my friends went out with a guy whos flat was haunted they used to get things like knives and forks bending. she used to scare me sometimes with the things she used to tell me. hope things get better. -->

well the haunted apartment thing is taken care of BUT when you see things moved that you know where they are supposed to be you kind of figure it out and when a knife that is unbendable is bent that tells you as well. but thanx for all of your help.