I'm not sure which section to put this under, but thought crypto as we are often talking about animals.

Two dogs killed, one injured in attack
No consensus on what mauled animals

By Marsha Paxson/Lake Sun

MORGAN COUNTY -- Wildlife experts and lake area authorities say the may never know what kind of animal or animals killed two dogs and mauled another about four miles east of Versailles.
The county sheriff believes evidence points to a mountain lion, a local veterinarian who treated the surviving dog isn't certain what ravaged the pets, and a state wildlife team speculates that a pack of large dogs is the culprit.
Morgan County Sheriff Jim Petty said his deputies were called to a home on Old Marvin Road by a family who said they came home to find one of their dogs, a Labrador, in a pool of blood outside a fenced-in area.
A second dog, a Malamute, was attacked and killed inside the fenced-in area.
A German shepherd's neck and face had been bitten open, but it survived.
Dottie Fields said the family's 50-60 pound Malamute, Rollo, and similar-sized Labrador retriever, Samantha, were restrained in a four-foot-tall pen behind her home before they left home.
"My son found a bloody trail to my back door," Fields said. "Samantha had gotten out and her jugular had been ripped open. She bled to death. Our German shepherd, Bossy, had his face, neck and side torn open. He was a mess."
Fields said the Malamute had been inside the pen when it was attacked.
"Whatever killed it had tried to pull its head through the fence and in the process the skin was ripped from its neck to its nose down to the bone," Fields said. "I cannot imagine what it went through trying to fight back. I'm scared to walk out my back door now."
Petty's officers said it appeared the Labrador had escaped through an opening in the fence and was attacked before it was able to run to the Fields' house, where the German shepherd was mauled.
Fields said her son was able to pull himself together enough to take photos of the dogs and several tracks left just outside the fence. The German Shepherd was taken to Versailles veterinarian M.B. "Doc" Jones.
The dog required more than 100 stitches to repair its wounds.
"It is too difficult to determine what caused these injuries," Jones said. "I do not believe it was dogs. I don't know what it was."
Petty said tracks that were photographed by the Fields' do not appear to be from a dog because they have no claw marks.
"I think it is a mountain lion or some other big cat," Petty said. "What kind of dog is going to be big enough to nearly rip a 60-pound dog's head off through a fence?"
A team of wildlife specialists with the Missouri Department of Conservation's' Mountain Lion Task Force Team say the tracks they reviewed were washed by rain, but believe the mauling was the work of Rottweiler dogs that had reportedly been seen in the area by residents just days and weeks before.
"Mountain lions are typically afraid of dogs," MDC wildlife biologist Jim Braithwait said Thursday. "It didn't make sense to us that a mountain lion would attack and not take off with its prey. That isn't usual behavior for a mountain lion. We also considered this case urgent because of recent reports of a tiger sighting in another part of Morgan County. But because we had reports that three rottweilers had killed several pot-bellied pigs in this part of the county we felt those dogs are more likely to blame."
Braithwait says he doubts a mountain lion is out roaming and confirmed that the state gets hundreds of calls of mountain lion sightings each year.
"That is one reason we formed the task force," Braithwait said. "We want to be sure what we're dealing with."
Braithwait said since 1994, only seven free-living mountain lion sightings have been verified in Missouri. Before that the last confirmed mountain lion was killed in 1927 in southeast Missouri.
Braithwait says the MDC is suggests that dog owners in rural Morgan County who let their small pets outside for short periods of time or allow their pets to be outside without a secure pen should keep a close eye on them or keep them inside.
"There is not a whole lot we can do until we have more evidence to prove otherwise," Braithwait said. "People should be cautious but not panicked."
The Fields say that if they see another animal trying to attack on their property it will be shot on sight.
Braithwait said in the case of a wild animal the MDC has regulations that OK shooting it to protect property or other life.
"But if these are dogs that belong to someone and you shoot them you can be held liable, legally," Braithwait said.

link... http://www.lakesunleader.com/articles/2004.../news/news4.txt

What are your thoughts on which animal could be so destructive and win against 3 large dogs.

A CoW!!!!!! Thats who did it.....an insane cow.........it could almost rip off a dogs head through a fence.......LOL.....no.....um..... im not familier with the place it happened so the animals i might say might not even live near there.....so just humor me...it could have been a big cat like was mentioned.....a wolverine....um....wolves....fisher....

or of coarse......

The Chupa-Cabra....Mwa-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!!!!!

or last chice could be that it was some sick person.....with like a dull buck knife.......sicko....i hope no one would do that.... but it is a possibility

Dear Tia:

Thanks for sharing the story. (I think) What a sad tale and how utterly awful for the family. I can only imagine the pain these animals went through before death relieved that pain.

Have you heard anymore about the family? What about the surviving dog?

I can't think of any animal that could do this to another animal. I would have to think that it must be a very strong animal, large in size and clearly not afraid of dogs. I hope the authorities can solve the mystery soon before any other animals are hurt.

Thanks
Peacelover

Seeing as the jugular was ripped out of one of the dogs, I vote a large cat of some kind.

Hmm.... Intresting story. I want to see the pictures but when I click the link it says "Files not found" Can you fix it or is it just the website?

Yowch. It was probably a Chupy. Thosle liddle buggers are all over. *looks left to right nervously*

yea, i think a chubacabra must've done it who else could have? i knew a dude who lived in missouri maybe it happened to him ill have to ask him.....

my only guess is a large animal, not scared of dogs... natural or cryptid i cannot say.
mabye a lycan is to blame (or a person who thinks they are)...
obviously this depends on whether lycans are actually capable
of transformation or just under the power of suggestion.
could always have been a psycho though, good old psychos...
either way, dogs are cool, so if/when they catch it... they should
definately f*** it all up.

I'm still thinkin goatsucker. (did anyone watch the Vernture Bros. last night cuz there was a chupy) No normal animal could've done that. But it could've been a lycan, good point.

How about an explination that dosen't have to do with a creature that is more of a myth than real.


You seem easily convinced even though your a "skeptic guy."
Lets look at what could have done it. Maybe other dogs, wolves, mountain lion...

Creepy! Sounds like it could be either a large cat or a wild dog of some kind. There were attacks on sheep down in Victoria not too long ago and reports said their throats had been torn out *shudders*

Cougar, maybe. Or an escaped exotic, like a big cat. When there is little food, cougars often go after dogs. They're pretty powerful too, I wouldn't put it past one to do something like that. They must have been real chewed up, because usually you can get a good ID of felid or canid bites from dentition.

Would a cougar take on 3 dogs? I can understand the one by itself but attacking the 2 that were caged......... . Luckily we don't have large predators in Australia so my knowledge on cougars etc is limited.

Perhaps it is an example of surplus killing, where a predator is presented with an overabundant food scource and kills more than it needs.

I didn't think there were any cats large enough to do that left in Missouri. As far as I know there aren't any cougars, and bobcats are way too small. That's so weird!

Cougars often pop up where they don't belong. People let pets loose into the wild, and wild cats of all species can travel incredible distances in a surprising amount of time! Wanderers looking for new territory could turn up quite far away from where they started.

Intersting. Sounds kind of like a canine attack, from the description of how it tried to drag the other dog thorugh the fence. Often when dogs get a hold of seomthing, they will try to drag it away, but I don't know of any dog that would tear the skinn of form the neck down to the nose. I'll have to look into it

Some intresting information:





Scroll down to "Kill Evidence"

MOUNTAIN LIONS IN MISSOURI?

Not likely a cougar. As was stated in the article, the attack isn't cougar like. That and cougars are afraid of dogs, they tend to run up trees away from them. That's how *growls* hunters go after them. Much like a fox hunt. They chace the cougar down with dogs, and shoot it while it's up in the tree. Sporting huh?

Anyways, I do think that it's more then likely feral dogs, rotties as they say. Canines do rip out juggulars as well, and will kill and leave a dead body without eating it. I've seen that happen back home. It's why you have to be really carefully with your dogs while out in the forest. They've been known to hunt deer down and kill without eating it. My own chaced chickens that had gotten loose and killed them without eating. That's how my cat died. Neighbors dog stalked and killed her without eating.

A cougar would have killed one and taken it away to eat.

u can always blame bigfoot

or a necroposter

i wouldn't rule the cougar out yet . sometimes they get a little crazy during times of drought . could be a black bear as well or--an escaped exotic cat.

this sounds like the work of a leopard --but who would be stupid enough to have one for a pet ?

sound like a group attack. i wouldnt rule out those rotts yet... this reminds me of when my old dog got a hold a bunch of likkle bunnies... oh the carnage

watching a little too much ginger snaps are we?

hmm it's weird maybe sumthing we never seen before

Call me crazy, but sounds a bit like Canis Dirus, the extinct dire wolf, to me.

Mountain Lion.

How about a wolverine?

Though they're usually found further north, in Canada, they are very strong and fierce for their size. They're not easily scared of ANYTHING, especially of dogs.

Ok, allow me to settle the debate as to whether Cougars a.k.a. Mountain Lions are living in Missouri. I was born and raised there and I can tell u this, they're not common but they are around.

I was also getting the "File Not Found" reply when I try to have a look at the actual ad and pictures.

It could be a Cougar but then it also sounds to me like it could be a pack of Coyotes that attacked those Dogs. Without looking at the pictures I cant be sure but around the Ozarks area Coyotes attacking Dogs is something that has been known to happen before.

Just something else to throw into the mix.

I know this isn't the right place to be asking a general question, but can anyone tell me when the Part 3 of the Jeepers Creepers movie is due to be released? They're taking awfully long maybe because they did wuch a bad job with the sequal.And also on what mythical creature is that perfectly creepy creature based?

While the "creature" in the movie was interesting...this may have been the single DUMBEST movie that I have ever had the misfortune of sitting-through....that's 2 hours of my life that I will NEVER get back.

I apologize in advance for continuing this off-thread entry....but seeing that title just set-me-off.

Well it took 3 pages for this thread to get extremely weird.

now children, we see a perfect example of what necroposters can do to a thread.......




alien

try setting it so it shows 40 posts per page, like I do. Saves alot of time.

i know who might have chewed up the dogs...
some hungry cajuns.

Wow, this is in my neck of the woods. . . Three or four counties down counties over. Mountain Lions are present and accounted for here. A few years back a guy on the news made a video of them. My aunts farm is sometimes pestered by them in the early spring and there tracks can be seen clearly. Bears occasionally come into the area too. My wife and I saw a black bear when we lived out in BFE in Marion County.
This doesn't sound like a Mountain Lion attack to me, it sounds like the work of some sadistic person