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Insight
If you have any questions I have not addresed, feel free to ask, and I shall answer to the best of my ability for you.
kikuchiyo
Is knowledge bad?
Frosty
QUOTE(kikuchiyo @ Nov 28 2004, 01:31 AM)
Is knowledge bad?
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Only knowledge of your own demise.
Insight
Knowledge without wisdom is bad. Wisdom is the ability to use knowledge. Where does divine and truthful wisdom come from? A divine source of course. Seeking the wisdom of God is the best way to learn to use knowledge.
Insight
QUOTE(Mad Manfred @ Nov 14 2004, 09:32 PM)
QUOTE(Novo @ Nov 11 2004, 12:30 PM)
the one thing in my life I cannot find- Faith. So Im giving every religous person on this board to give me some religions info ect... I have already had bad dealings with christianity but feel free to try to convert me anyway.
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Seriously dude, make up your own mind. There's a word for people who need to be told what to do and what to believe all the time...sheep.

Have faith in YOURSELF. That's all that matters.
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There's a word for people who have faith in themselves above God: Humanists. Why put faith into something which can be decieved? Why put trust into a fallable source? Confidence is one thing, but faith is totally different. No amount of faith in one's self can trancend death. Wouldn't you agree?
Insight
One more thing: Denominations are of Man, not of God. I reccomend a non-denominatiuonal church if you wish to attend any. Why put limits on God? Why put limits on his teachings?

Denominations are foolish. Why practice parts of Gods word, but not all parts? It doesn't make any sense.
Mad Manfred
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There's a word for people who have faith in themselves above God: Humanists.


How can I place myself above something when I do not believe in it? It's like placing myself above Peter Pan. I simply do not regard your god.

And why do you say "humanist" as if it's a bad thing? huh.gif

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Why put faith into something which can be decieved? Why put trust into a fallable source?


Which are you talking about? Christianity?

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Confidence is one thing, but faith is totally different. No amount of faith in one's self can trancend death. Wouldn't you agree?


Uhh, nope. I don't fear death nor expect anything to come of it. I just fear the WAY I'm going to die. Hopefully without much pain, therefore all I really need to be is a "humanist".

Is that what you meant? I'm a little sleepy so I may have read your post wrong.
Insight


How can I place myself above something when I do not believe in it? It's like placing myself above Peter Pan. I simply do not regard your god.

Not believing in something does not mean that is does not exist. Disregarding something does not eliminate the possibility. Wouldn't you agree?

And why do you say "humanist" as if it's a bad thing? huh.gif

Since when has humanity as a whole acted towards the greater good? Since whenb has mankind been something other than an utterly destructive force? Why do we have to tell our children how to be good, and not how to be bad? Why does law need to be enforced? Why isn't knowledge of law enough? It is because man is evil at heart. His mind is chaotic. His thoughts unstable. I prefer to subscribe to a faith that will never let me down, never lie to me or forsake me.


Which are you talking about? Christianity?

*laughs* okay, lets say I am talking about christianity. Why would I put my faith in a religios system developed and enforced by men? Why would I hold everything a pastor says as truth? I wouldn't. But I would, however, seek the divinely perfect God on who the religion is based. Should a church give me false information, I put faith in the infallable God that he will reveal the lies to me. Don't get me wrong, christianity has been perverted past most other religions, to the point where people actually hate christians. This leads me to believe the Malevolent force, who is prince of our world, is perverting it, for God remains faithful and changeless. Doesn't it make sense that Lucifer would attack Christianity the most if it were a path to the True God, and true salvation, providing either exists?


Uhh, nope. I don't fear death nor expect anything to come of it.

You misunderstand what I say. Humans are spiritual beings, not meant to die, nor created to die. Death is the seperation from God. When we die, we are finally seperated from him in all ways. But we were never meant to be seperated from him, which is why he gave us a way to live forever next to him, with him, on his plain. If we seek salvation of Jesus Christ and believe in his ressurection, we will not be seperated from God at the time of our death. We will continue to exist for eternity. A diffucult concept to grasp for sure.

I just fear the WAY I'm going to die. Hopefully without much pain, therefore all I really need to be is a "humanist".

I also fear the way I am going to die. The less pain, the better. But had I the choice, i would choose immortality on a divine level, rather than having my existance nullified when my physical body ceases to function. Through years of wondering about eternity, I have finally been able to wrap my mind around it. And the existance described by God is something I desire.

What if I'm wrong, and there is no spiritual life? No God, or Heaven? What have I lost? Nothing. I have lived a fufilling and loving life.

But what if there is a God. There is a spiritual after life with him in heaven? Then what have I gained? Everything.

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