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Fluffybunny
I find it disgusting that TV stations will show Mindless BS like Fear Factor where you can watch people do pointless tasks like eating cows eyeballs and then vomiting on screen, yet they are worried about pointing out a movie that graphically shows what people did in an a war 60 years ago. Something that actually has a point...It is just silly.


NEW YORK (AP) -- More than 20 ABC affiliates around the country, including two in Ohio, have announced that they won't take part in the network's Veterans Day airing of "Saving Private Ryan," saying the acclaimed film's violence and language could draw sanctions from the Federal Communications Commission.

The decisions mark a twist in the conflict over the aggressive stand the FCC has taken against obscenity and profanity since Janet Jackson flashed the world during the last Super Bowl halftime show.

Steven Spielberg's Oscar-winning movie aired on ABC with relatively little controversy in 2001 and 2002, but station owners _ including several in large markets -- are unnerved that airing it Thursday could bring federal punishment. The film includes a violent depiction of the D-Day invasion and profanity.

"It would clearly have been our preference to run the movie. We think it's a patriotic, artistic tribute to our fighting forces," Ray Cole, president of Citadel Communications, told AP Radio. The company owns three ABC affiliates in the Midwest.

In Ohio, WCPO-TV of Cincinnati and WSYX-TV of Columbus will not show the movie.

Other stations choosing to replace the movie with other programming are located in Atlanta, Dallas, Honolulu, New Orleans, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Orlando, Florida, and Charlotte, North Carolina. They are owned by a variety of companies, including Cox Television, Tribune Broadcasting Corp., Hearst-Argyle Television Inc., Belo Corp. and Sinclair Broadcast Group.

"We regret that the FCC, given its current timidity in dealing in this area, would not grant an advance waiver, which would have allowed stations like ours to run it without any question or any concern," Cole said.

In a statement on WSB-TV's Web site, the Atlanta station's vice president and general manager, Greg Stone, cited a March ruling in which the FCC said an expletive uttered by rock star Bono during NBC's live airing of the 2003 Golden Globe Awards was both indecent and profane.

The agency made it clear then that virtually any use of the F-word -- which is used repeatedly in "Saving Private Ryan" -- was inappropriate for over-the-air radio and television.

The Bono case "reversed years of prior policy that the context of language matters," Stone said. He added that broadcasters could not get any clarification from the FCC on whether the movie violates the standard.

ABC, which broadcast the film uncut in 2001 and 2002, issued a statement saying it is proud to broadcast it again. The network's contract with director Spielberg stipulates that the film cannot be edited.

"As in the past, this broadcast will contain appropriate and clear advisories and parental guidelines," the statement said.

The network has about 225 affiliates.

Several stations said ABC had rejected their requests to air the movie after 10 p.m.

An FCC spokeswoman said Wednesday that the agency does not monitor television broadcasts, but responds to complaints. The agency received a complaint after the 2001 broadcast of "Saving Private Ryan," but it was denied, she said.

WSOC-TV of Charlotte said it received complaints about language in the movie when it aired in 2001 and 2002.

"Now, after much concern and discussion about family viewing over past months, and with Americans at war across the world, it is the vivid depiction of violence combined with graphic language proposed to begin airing at 8 p.m. that has forced our decision," said Lee Armstrong, the station's vice president and general manager.

ABC has told its affiliates it would cover any fines, but Cole, of Citadel, said the network could not protect its affiliates against other FCC sanctions.

The FCC has stepped up enforcement of its decency standards for certain content following this year's Super Bowl halftime show, in which one of Janet Jackson's breasts was exposed.

Profane speech, which is barred from broadcast radio and television between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., is defined by the FCC as language that is "so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance," or epithets that tend "to provoke violent resentment."

The guidelines say the context in which such material appears is of critical importance.

Cole cited recent FCC actions and last week's re-election of President Bush as reasons for replacing "Saving Private Ryan" on Thursday with a music program and the TV movie "Return to Mayberry."

"We're just coming off an election where moral issues were cited as a reason by people voting one way or another and, in my opinion, the commissioners are fearful of the new Congress," Cole said
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Dancing_Dumplings
ugh its not like we dont see that kind of violence on the news, papers, and movies. hell my history teacher showed us saving private ryan when we were studying the vietnam war. and he was a vietnam vet too! this is ridiculous. the FCC is getting bored, because eveyones watching their backs about what they say, so the FCC has to make up some ridiculous excuse to take off a stupid movie from tv.
kikuchiyo
This only goes to show that television is the new opium of the people, it's dims the mind and soften the wills. People will avoid reality and frive on poinless frivolities.Media is the way to controle masses, I've made ads, I have been in the belly of the beast and it's quite ugly.

TV broadcast is sometime the only for great movies to be seen by a public, it's a rare thing to find a movie with so much emotion, movies like Platoon or Ryan are replaced by mind numing Pearl Harbour and The Green Berets.
panther10758
After Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction FCC has gotten much tougher and this sadly is part of that backlash
wunarmdscissor
thats a bloody joke, this would never happen here.

I hear a lot of this sort of screenin goes on in america, im glad its more liberal regarding that kinda stuff here.

Its like a kick in the teeth to veterans , not showing a movie which from veterans descriptions actually shows the brutality of war in all its horrendous glory.
Dancing_Dumplings
any cartoon that comes from japan is uber censored and they change the story around too disgust.gif they take out all the good stuff in it. disgust.gif disgust.gif they took out a part in dragonball Z because it showed the kids butt, after he jumped out from bathing in a lake. and it wasnt even a close up on his tush. it was from accross the stupid lake disgust.gif

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Its like a kick in the teeth to veterans , not showing a movie which from veterans descriptions actually shows the brutality of war in all its horrendous glory.

not only that, its verterans day here. disgust.gif stupid FCC
wunarmdscissor
Same here cos its the day ww1 ended,

Armistice day , the 11th hour of the, 11th day of the 11th month
Dancing_Dumplings
was is supposed to be playing today? or this weekend?
kikuchiyo
stick to the history channel!...
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there goal is information, some entretainment, but mostly information.
lego jedi
Has any1 watched the news recently? there are pictures of violence and suggestion of fear and terror all over the place...
Do the fcc interfere with that NO!
A real war real events real people real lives .... i thought reality tv was all the rage.
evidently not when it shows that the wars we are engaged in right now are not pretty either
damn their oily hides disgust.gif disgust.gif disgust.gif
freaky6
I hate the FCC, are they stupid or something? It's not like ABC is forcing people to watch all the "profanity and violence," if some people think it's offensive they can change the freakin' channel!
BurnSide
Great. Let people become increasingly stupid sitting around the 'idiot' box watching Jackass, He's a Lady and 'MY Neighbour is a Zombie' which isn't real but probably soon will be.

Yet when real, historical award winning movies are played, it's cancelled. What are they worried about, people will actually LEARN something? Oooo can't have that!!
Nxt2Hvn
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Nov 11 2004, 08:53 PM)
Great. Let people become increasingly stupid sitting around the 'idiot' box watching Jackass, He's a Lady and 'MY Neighbour is a Zombie' which isn't real but probably soon will be.

Yet when real, historical award winning movies are played, it's cancelled. What are they worried about, people will actually LEARN something? Oooo can't have that!!
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Amen Burnside!!!

I am so tired of all the trash on TV .. reality shows... like the Swan ..make young girls think plastic surgery is okay... but you can't watch stories that impact real emotions.. nooo... can't have that either! rolleyes.gif
panther10758
Just thinking if these standards applied years ago Tv shows liek ROOTS would have never aired!
BurnSide
The worst thing is that we have no control over it.
They decide for us, end of story.

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Nxt2Hvn
QUOTE(panther10758 @ Nov 11 2004, 08:55 PM)
Just thinking if these standards applied years ago Tv shows liek ROOTS would have never aired!
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Good point!

I remember watching Roots when I was really young... and is a real eye opener... everyone should see it.

kikuchiyo
well we do have a choise, videostores, public representation of Movies, Internet...
People are restrained but that doesn't mean we should just sit there and die, we have to stand...

true the mass public is a hard public to reach with those methode, but sociaty is a game of action/reaction...in this case we have to make the action.
BurnSide
And the appropriate reaction. Voicing the opinions of the people.

I work with cable and i'm always telling customers to write letters to the FCC when they pull this kind of stunt.
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