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jason
Over the last few weeks if anyone has been watching the news there have been reports of hobbit like creatures they have found in Africa not 100 years ago. The really big elephant of Lord Of The Rings, the third one, They found that one type of creature, But they just thought it to be prehistoric. Well they were wrong, Perhaps a missending, perhaps a misunderstanding. Up until 300 years ago in every part of the world, there have been recordings of dragons before they could travel the seas there have been many recordings but the government dosent tell you that for the reasons I cannot say in this point in time,but if you don’t believe me, see for yourself, do a bit of researching on the net. Every empire, every city has recordings of dragons, hobbits. The last of the big elephants were used by the romans, if you search, you will see. Gotta go peace.

Edit- Do not type in all caps.
-UA
Cradle of Fish
I seriously doubt youve been watching Lord of the Rings too much.

you do have good taste in movies though tongue.gif
Dancing_Dumplings
show us the source
__Kratos__
WE WANT SOURCE! WE WANT SOURCE! tongue.gif Come on man... don't post stuff like that without some sort of proof.
Thanato
They have found skeletons of a closely related speacies to humans, that scientists are calling the Hobbits because there about teh size of a Hobbit in LOTRs, it was on all the major news sites last month. But im not sure about the elephant thing.

~Thanato
Mad Manfred
So what are you getting at? Are you trying to say that Tolkien's story was based on real events? Please tell me you're not serious.

First of all, these "Hobbits" were found in Indonesia...miles and miles away from Africa. Do you know why you haven't heard anything new on these "Hobbits"? Because it's been proven false. The skeleton these INEXPERIENCED STUDENTS uncovered was just a retarded and deformed female of a normal human tribe. They jumped the gun basically.

Secondly, the elephants you're talking about became extinct around 100,000 years ago. They had no contact with modern man.
kosei-x
If you really are trying to imply that this has something to do with the LATER i will seriously keep you in my thoughts. It is a little thing called evolution. The oldest found human bone were found in africa so obviously there is going to be human evolution there. And the 600 ft elephants, elephants are there now! Plus what proof is there that there were in the same time period. anyway sorry to be so aggressive grin2.gif !
Switch
It's also quite possible that in ancient times they were smoking weed as we are today.
Insight
I side with switch on this one.
Joe013
oh so very true.


i guess they didn't learn that drugs cloud your judgement either
BurnSide
Why do you think they saw elephants 100 feet tall!?
Good old pipe-weed.
Rose Red
Yeah,I heard about the hobbit thing to,not shure if it is true....but not the elifants(sorry,spelling blush.gif ).
They did a thing in Scientific American magazine on if humams were to live for sevril hondred years what they would have to look like and eat like and stuff...and they were just like hobbits!but as for what your saying,sorry,I don't know.
Conspiracy
QUOTE(Switch @ Nov 30 2004, 08:47 PM)
It's also quite possible that in ancient times they were smoking weed as we are today.
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i wouldnt dought that. lol grin2.gif
N-droe
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First of all, these "Hobbits" were found in Indonesia...miles and miles away from Africa.


Just because the latest reports come from Indonesia, doesn't mean Africa has no little people too. Run a search for the Agogwe. nice stories about that one.

And isn't it just that the elefants looked bigger to those ancient tribes, just because the people were smaller?
marduk

N-Droe
just explain your theories and views and read those of others. Don't try to convince each other that your views are right and theirs are wrong.
We're dealing with mysteries here, so nobody knows what's right and what's wrong. If someone would, it wouldn't be much of a mystery.
Heheheh
Sometimes people say things they haven't thought through
Then those words come back to haunt them
again
and
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and
again
and
again

According to your theory
"Up until 300 years ago in every part of the world, there have been recordings of dragons before they could travel the seas there have been many recordings but the government dosent tell you that for the reasons I cannot say in this point in time,but if you don’t believe me, see for yourself, do a bit of researching "
This is an unqualified belief that you should either believe or refuse to post against.
According to you.
So dragons and elephants 300ft tall are a link that you shouldn't question or post against
right ??
heheheh
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N-droe
And exactly how is your reply relevant here?

I'm not saying that anyones views or theories are false. I'm just saying that Africa has tails about little people, I'm not saying the recent reports didn't come from Indonesia. Furthermore I'm expressing a view on why people in earlier days might describe elephants as really large.

But I could expect this from you. It's just your type of twisting someones words... But hey, if your happy and thinking this helps you support your ideas... Don't let me stop you. We live in a free world (relatively)
zandore
QUOTE(marduk Posted Today @ 03:52 PM )
elephants 300ft tall
Elephants about as tall as a 30 story building? hmm.gif
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N-droe
Those tusks would have made for a serious amount of biljard-balls
zandore
Have you ever seen a 30 story building? If there was 300 foot tall elephants....Where are the bones/fossils? Same thing for dragons.
Bones.....bones whos got the bones? laugh.gif laugh.gif
N-droe
I don't think they have existed. 300ft elephants. But I'm not an expert in paleontology.
I think that's much to big. But I do have a theory on dragons. Just read another thread. Here's my view

As being a collector I know that fossils need really good circumstances to form. And there are more dino bones found than mammal bones (this I was told by a paleontologist from the Netherlands). So not everything leaves it's bones lying around. But just like you I think at least be found some bones should have been found by now. but we can't entirely rule out the possibility that they existed.
Larving
I'm with N-droe all the way! thumbsup.gif
Adramaleck
Yeah switch, the native americans smoked lots of weed, tripped on lots of shrooms, and ate lots of peyote. Many based 'coming to manhood' on a vision quest induced from eating peyote cacti.

The bible guys must have done some harcore tripping too - (I don't remember the facts, I was a freshmen in highschool when I heard this in religion class *shudders*) Found on one of the dead sea scrolls (I believe one the church has secretly confiscated) told of one of the apostles being lifted up into the air, being able to see the entire earth at once, being among the stars.

Either he was taken aboard an alien ship, or he was tripping balls.

And dragons are a fairly often occurance on a bad trip of acid (or so I've heard, and tried to calm my friends down... not that easy when they think a desk is a dragon blink.gif )

I'm just not convinced of this, there's too many outs, unless you can provide some...

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marduk
told of one of the apostles being lifted up into the air, being able to see the entire earth at once, being among the stars.

errr
that was ezekial right
check your bible
Its in there
N-droe
Didn't they tell you in school that the Bible is more of symbolic value. It isn't really an accurate description of events.
You did go to school right?
Even the priests over here admit that... Keep this in mind when you quote the bible.

And who says he was physically lifted up? Perhaps just his spirit left his body in meditation. A lot of asian people are accused of doing that over the years. And I seriously doubt the lama's in Tibet tell those stories just to attract more tourists.
Dowdy
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First of all, these "Hobbits" were found in Indonesia...miles and miles away from Africa. Do you know why you haven't heard anything new on these "Hobbits"? Because it's been proven false. The skeleton these INEXPERIENCED STUDENTS uncovered was just a retarded and deformed female of a normal human tribe. They jumped the gun basically.



Actually they have been proven to be real. Since they found fragments ie. parts of jaw etc that also belonged to 'hobbits'

'Hobbit' confirmed to be new species
marduk
err no you're quite right that I didn't go to school where they didn't tell me that the bible was supposed to be symbolic
And it was you that mentioned it I just gave you the name of the guy who was lifted up
Like you didn't want to know huh grin2.gif


"And who says he was physically lifted up? Perhaps just his spirit left his body in meditation. "
well erich von daniken for one who used the story of ezekiel to prove that we were visited by space travelling gods in ancient times
He failed to prove anything
Now i guess its your turn

If you ask questions you get answers
don't b**** at the person who gave them to you because you don't think you agree with his politics when you don't even know what they are
thats just being obtuse

"his judgement cometh and none too soon"
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glad I could help
N-droe
Read Marduk, the person talking about that lifting apostle was...

did you get it already?

It was...

Adramaleck

Now try to find the one mentioning that the bible is symbolic...

well...

get that?

It was...

N-droe (me)

So this:
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err no you're quite right that I didn't go to school where they didn't tell me that the bible was supposed to be symbolic
And it was you that mentioned it I just gave you the name of the guy who was lifted up
Like you didn't want to know huh

isn't quite right Marduk.

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"And who says he was physically lifted up? Perhaps just his spirit left his body in meditation. "
well erich von daniken for one who used the story of ezekiel to prove that we were visited by space travelling gods in ancient times
He failed to prove anything
Now i guess its your turn


My turn? Ok... but you give the answer yourself. Von Daniken used this story and said he physically lifted himself up, i didn't. I think his spirit got lifted up, not the dude himself.

Btw, what does marduk stand for?
marduk
QUOTE(N-droe @ Mar 27 2005, 09:26 AM)
Read Marduk, the person talking about that lifting apostle was...

did you get it already?

It was...

Adramaleck

Now try to find the one mentioning that the bible is symbolic...

well...

get that?

It was...

N-droe (me)

So this:
QUOTE
err no you're quite right that I didn't go to school where they didn't tell me that the bible was supposed to be symbolic
And it was you that mentioned it I just gave you the name of the guy who was lifted up
Like you didn't want to know huh

isn't quite right Marduk.

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"And who says he was physically lifted up? Perhaps just his spirit left his body in meditation. "
well erich von daniken for one who used the story of ezekiel to prove that we were visited by space travelling gods in ancient times
He failed to prove anything
Now i guess its your turn


My turn? Ok... but you give the answer yourself. Von Daniken used this story and said he physically lifted himself up, i didn't. I think his spirit got lifted up, not the dude himself.

Btw, what does marduk stand for?
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Obviousely in this case Marduk stands for fallible
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http://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/marduk.html
see i'm not recent and have been around a while
N-droe
"bulf calf of the sun" cool... I'm going to call my next dog that wink2.gif
marduk
HEHEHE
i thank you
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