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Light_B_4_Dawn
Here I have a picture and some info I think you all should be aware of.
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2. Go here and see for yourselves what Planet-X has instore for us.--->>>Planet-X
Discordia
I had read about the sumerians and found it very interesting. They were able to describe all the planets even though they didn't have our technology. They knew of Pluto which wasn't discovered until the 1900's. Also they knew the world was round. They claimed to get the information from Marduk from planet Niburu. (Planet x) They described that every time Niburu came close to the Earth (every 3,600 years) that chaos would come. I guess it effects the pull of the sun on earth and our rotation leading to odd weather patterns. I also read in a paper it's tied to the great flood and other happenings in history.
Gabriel
well kind of makes sence to me, i mean i dont recall all this worrie a bout a commet striking the earth when i was a kid. also the news has been reporting on a lot of commets comming and missing earth, in like the last fue years.
MonkeyMan
Thats pyscho and it's really woerd and you should put that in the booba paper
TheCrow
I first heard about Planet X several months ago. I think there is quite a lot of evidence supporting the idea of another planet. The asteroid belt... where did it come from? It's possible that Planet X did strike our earth and caused the asteroid belt. There's all those Sumerian texts/drawings depicting it... Perhaps we are not the first wave of humans to become 'advanced'. The Sumerians were obviously quite an advanced people... Maybe they, knowing the end was near, left clues for us in forms of etchings on walls etc.

Planet X might even tie in to Atlantis amd UFO's and whatnot. Perhaps there is an advanced civilisation living on Planet X and they visitied the Sumerians and this is where they got all their knowledge from. They created Atlantis as an outpost. This past few decades there has been a bit of an increase if UFO sightings, perhaps it is them visiting us as their planet draws nearer thus making it not so far to travel. Remember that supposed message coming from space a month or two back. I don't remember many of the details on it and I never heard if they found out what it was or not but perhaps it could be from Planet X.

A lot of it does seem pretty fantasticle and while I think there is quite a bit of evidence to sugegst something liek this could true, I dunno if I beleive it or not. I think it's interesting though.
Light_B_4_Dawn
QUOTE(monkeymanz89 @ Nov 12 2004, 04:27 PM)
Thats pyscho and it's really woerd and you should put that in the booba paper
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What in the world is the booba paper. I dont think it is psycho, i think its all true. And you should respect others posts. Or maybe you should be booted out of here for good.
Scorpius
I also do see the connections between UFO's and this Planet X that is seemingly written in stone.

The possibility that Sumerians used their archaic technology to map out our solar system is as close to impossible. There would have to have been an outer source of information--aliens. Otherwise, these sumerians must have possessed some or a few highly trained psychics--oralces.

Most scientists would have to choose the aliens over psychics, and for the extreme skeptics, it's a catch 22 for truth.
AztecInca
This is really really interesting stuff, that does get you thinking, I do believe that there is a planet X and just imagine what else could be just waiting for us to discover!
riotboy555
wow....my teacher is an idiot then. I asked her about planet X, and she told me it was pluto. grin2.gif butt seriously, that is a cool site. it's very informing.
seeking
you know i like to stay open minded, but if we can spot super novas and other far distant planets, galaxies, dont you think we would have spotted this planet x allready? i mean in order for it to really mess with gravity it would have to be pretty big, much larger than pluto and we dont have the best shots of pluto but we still got um, you know what im saying?
merlinhoot
I have been following this since I started surfing the web back in 1995
and haven't read a single book but gleen all I can off the web.
This is the best site on this subject.
Xfacts link

Besides Zecharia's site which is at Sitchin dot com

strife
Just to say gabriel, commets head towards earth all the time, and we dont even know about them, about 200 in a year.
They usually miss, but some burn up in our atmosphere, but theres a few each year that the government somewhere round the world has to step in and divert or destroy.
Gabriel
ture strife commetts do come toward earth a lot. i was talking a bout the larger ones that have been in the news this year. im saying it seems plasuable that a planet pushing its way toward earth has come in contact with a fue commetts and have propelled them thisa-way. however i am a little scept becuase like seeking said we have some of the best pictures of far of in the universe so y cant we get a pic of it ?
Insight
Hey, where can I get a copy of this Booba paper?
koenig212003
Thats actually not a picture of Planet-X but a picture of the sun with a green filter, used to more clearly see solar flares.


QUOTE(Light_B_4_Dawn @ Nov 11 2004, 10:19 PM)
Here I have a picture and some info  I think you all should be aware of.
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Hotoke
planet x, i remember someone predicting that it would collide with earth in 2003 i believe it was that fraud sitchin let me search for that link
Dezmond
thank you for the cool pic, im gonna use it as my avatar.
Nevets22
To 'Seeking' & 'Gabriel'

You wanted to know why we can not see Planet X; well it’s not too hard to figure out now is it. You say we can see loads of far away things in space such as galaxies, stars & whatever but did you stop to think that these things we see send out light and it is our telescopes catching that light, planets with a habitable atmosphere like our own only send out a tiny light that we can not currently see and we still can not detect rock planets, we can only detect gas giants in other solar systems.

If we can not get a highly detailed image of Pluto then why would we see Planet X at all, Planet X has an enormous elliptical orbit and it takes it about 3,600 years just to orbit the Sun. Maybe Planet X has gone so far out in its orbit that it is basically in the darkness of space and because a planet does not send out light quite like a star or a galaxy does then wouldn’t that make it currently impossible to see. No light from it means we won’t see it because our telescopes are just not good enough yet to see things like that.

Just in case if you have not come across this information, some scientists believe that there are rogue planets scattered throughout the galaxy which are stationary and not moving or orbiting anything, and because these rogue planets are in the middle of space and light is not touching these planets then they are invisible to normal sight and telescopes. To locate these planets we must find another way of detecting them.
seeking
tried to delete this but couldnt
Raistlin Majere
I found a site a while ago that debunked a lot of apocoliptic occurences, and showed how a lot of them or overdrawn, underattended, or misinterprited. I'll go find it.


Here we go:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/exitmundi.htm
seeking
QUOTE(Nevets22 @ Dec 9 2004, 02:41 AM)
To 'Seeking' & 'Gabriel'

You wanted to know why we can not see Planet X; well it’s not too hard to figure out now is it.  You say we can see loads of far away things in space such as galaxies, stars & whatever but did you stop to think that these things we see send out light and it is our telescopes catching that light, planets with a habitable atmosphere like our own only send out a tiny light that we can not currently see and we still can not detect rock planets, we can only detect gas giants in other solar systems.

If we can not get a highly detailed image of Pluto then why would we see Planet X at all, Planet X has an enormous elliptical orbit and it takes it about 3,600 years just to orbit the Sun.  Maybe Planet X has gone so far out in its orbit that it is basically in the darkness of space and because a planet does not send out light quite like a star or a galaxy does then wouldn’t that make it currently impossible to see.  No light from it means we won’t see it because our telescopes are just not good enough yet to see things like that.

Just in case if you have not come across this information, some scientists believe that there are rogue planets scattered throughout the galaxy which are stationary and not moving or orbiting anything, and because these rogue planets are in the middle of space and light is not touching these planets then they are invisible to normal sight and telescopes.  To locate these planets we must find another way of detecting them.
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"...You say we can see loads of far away things in space such as galaxies, stars & whatever but did you stop to think that these things we see send out light and it is our telescopes catching that light...."

actually, they dont send out light, they reflect it

"...planets with a habitable atmosphere like our own only send out a tiny light that we can not currently see..."

again, reflect light not give off

"...and we still can not detect rock planets, we can only detect gas giants in other solar systems..."

we only detect gas giants in other solar systems becasue that is all we have discovered, if there were rocky planets like our own we would be able to detect them, we can detect black holes and they give off no light at all

"...If we can not get a highly detailed image of Pluto then why would we see Planet X at all..."

planet x is supposed to be of an enormous size, the bigger you are the farther you can be and still be seen

"...Planet X has an enormous elliptical orbit and it takes it about 3,600 years just to orbit the Sun. Maybe Planet X has gone so far out in its orbit that it is basically in the darkness of space and because a planet does not send out light quite like a star or a galaxy does then wouldn’t that make it currently impossible to see..."

again we dont actually have to see another planet in order to know it exists, we can tell through gravitational patterns in the surrounding area

"...Just in case if you have not come across this information, some scientists believe that there are rogue planets scattered throughout the galaxy which are stationary and not moving or orbiting anything..."

i have come across this information

"...and because these rogue planets are in the middle of space and light is not touching these planets then they are invisible to normal sight and telescopes. To locate these planets we must find another way of detecting them"

the only other way to detect a planet with out light reflectin form it is to observe gravitational patterns, if planet x was in our solar system it would effect the other planets, not just jupitor and as said in the post above those fluctuations in gravitation have been explained

Nethius
I'm sorry but that site is quite bogus. You can tell in the first paragraph alone...

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What the stories don't explore is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the other?
hmmm? maybe water

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In 1982, NASA themselves officially recognised the possibility of Planet X, with an announcement that 'some kind of mystery object is really there - far beyond the outermost planets'. One year later, the newly launched IRAS (Infrared Astronomical Satellite) spotted a large mysterious object in the depths of space.
Funny, my search of the NASA website revealed no such article. and no reference/source link provided? wonder why?

My NASA web search did yeild some good info tho!


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There is no known Planet X or 10th planet in our solar system. Scientists have been looking for about a hundred years. It was believed that such a planet was required to explain the orbital characteristics of the outer planets Uranus and Neptune. Many searches have been performed and, to date, no evidence of such a planet has emerged. In addition, better information about the masses of outer planets has also now shown that no other planets are necessary to explain the planetary orbits.
http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarCh.../question4.html

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http://www.nineplanets.org/hypo.html (read article about half way down)




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seeking
i can not wait for 2012 to roll by but then again all they will say is that it is due in another 10 years
laveticus666
"actualy they dont send out light they reflect it." No they dont. all stars and gallaxies give off lots of light. Saying a star doesnt give off light is like saying the sun doesnt give off light. But as for the planets they dont give off any light and do reflect it just very little and how much depends on what there made of.
laveticus666
Great point Nethius its pretty obviouse if all the contients are on one side then hmm i wonder what would be on the other side. But nasa and many science webpages and mags. had alot of stuff on this acouple years ago but wiether or not its on nasa pages i dont know.
seeking
of course stars give off light, planets reflect it, galaxies are composed of mostly stars
laveticus666
QUOTE(seeking @ Dec 10 2004, 10:28 PM)
of course stars give off light, planets reflect it, galaxies are composed of mostly stars
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yes"...You say we can see loads of far away things in space such as galaxies, stars & whatever but did you stop to think that these things we see send out light and it is our telescopes catching that light...."

"actually, they dont send out light, they reflect it"
sorry u must have ment somthing else but this says they dont give off light.
seeking
im sorry about that, i can see the confusion, the point i was tyrin gto make was we can see galaxys because they give off light, planets reflect light, planet x would be light up if it was in our solar system not only from our sun but from the light of other stars hitting its path
Insight


"...You say we can see loads of far away things in space such as galaxies, stars & whatever but did you stop to think that these things we see send out light and it is our telescopes catching that light...."

Stars give off light. Only planets reflect light.





Alien_child
the tenth planet is bogus i recon ,scientist have now found sustainable evidence that the tenth planet does not exist, pluto would not even be reconised planet at all if they found it in the last 20 yrs itwould of just been past off as another frozen body in the kupiter belt.
atrueoriginall
The timeframe in Sumaria would have been an ideal time for ET to instill ideas about new farming methods, while at the same time, find a "hearer" and leave behind a little knowledge as to a general conception of the universe in relation to the planets. It's not like they haven't done such things in the past. And, kick up a few myths in the process. ET likes myths. Ya notice how they didn't give them 100% factual information. Had they, we would have no questions as to their existence, would we? They are so devious and camoflage their ways.

Great site. Thanks much.
Mr. Blonde
I read that Planet X is only like 40 degrees above absolute zero.
seeking
how could you have read planet x is only 40º above absolute zero if we dont even have photos of the planet?



whoa182
Wont the new telescope planned for use in a few years be able to see something like 12 time sharper than the hubble telescope?

I dont remember if they said it would be able to see Planets in other solar systems. I think they have some new methods to block out star light.

Anyway, its VERY VERY good that we have found jupiter sized planets an bigger. If Jupiters didnt exist then Earth would be hit by asteroids to often. That means no advanced life. Instead of asteroids hitting us every few millions years or watever , they would prob strike something like every 100- 1000 years. Not enough time for a civilization to exist.
Hotoke
planet x does not exist


http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/exitmundi.htm

The Sumerians saw it. The Russians photographed it. NASA saw it, too. And now, eons after it left our world behind as a smoking, lifeless mess, the dreaded Planet X is about to reenter our solar system and mess up our world all over again. Or is it?

They say it triggers earthquakes. That it rips open volcanoes, and unleashes massive tsunamis. They say it can kick the Earth’s axis over, pushing Africa to the pole and Antarctica to the equator. It may even stop our planet from rotating! Or worse: peel the Earth’s crust off, tear our planet to bits. Or perhaps it simply sweeps our world aside, pushing it into the Sun. That’s the way it goes when suddenly, a HUGE planet zooms by. They say.

The demon planet that is supposed to do the trick goes by many names. Some call it Nibiru, or Marduk. Others named it The Ottawa Object, or Vulcan, or Transpluto. But most people prefer X, just X. `Planet X’, to be precise.

Planet X is the supposedly eleventh planet of our solar system. It should be as big as many Earths, dwarfing it perhaps even hundreds of times. Some people think X isn’t even a real planet, but a `brown dwarf’: a massive ball of dust and gas that almost succeeded in becoming a star. Planet X has something no other planet has: a huge orbit. Its orbit around the Sun lasts 3,600 years. Most of the time, it is far off, invisible to the eye. But every 3,600 years, the lost planet returns. Once here, it accelerates, and swings close past the Sun, disrupting everything it encounters.

And that’s exactly what Planet X is about to do, they say. Right now, it should be somewhere in the outer regions of the solar system, still invisible to our telescopes. But in the spring of 2003, it will suddenly make its appearance. It will be some event. Within months, Planet X will reach the inner regions of the solar system, disturbing the eclipses of the planets and bombarding us with comets. In May, it will pass Earth, missing it only at a few hairs’ lengths. Or, well: hitting us at full force, perhaps.

And that will be it. X will fly off again, not to be seen for another 3,600 years. And our planet? Earth will be bruised and battered, and covered in lava. If there’s anything worth calling a planet left at all, that is.

Planet X: The Real Story

Then again, maybe nothing happens at all in 2003. You see, Planet X is like the perfect myth: the outcome of centuries of ill-omened rumors, laced with snippets of history and cosmology. But: it is still myth. Dream stuff.

It all began with a tablet of clay, uncovered in the Near East many years ago. On the tablet, the Sumerians, the earliest known inhabitants of the Middle East, jotted down something that looked like a solar system. Earth was there, and Saturn, and Jupiter -- as well as all other planets we know of today. But hey, aren’t there supposed to be nine planets? The clay tablet clearly displays eleven. The tenth one could be the moon, or the newly discovered mini-planet Quaoar. But that still leaves you with one planet too many. Weird, isn’t it?


Ten: The famous `Berlin seal', displaying one planet too many.

Next came the astronomers. From the 1840s until deep into the 1980s, astronomy was haunted by a strange mystery. Something was not right with the orbits of the outer planets. Something really heavy seemed to be tugging at the outer planets Uranus and Neptune. Certain asteroids felt the mysterious pull, too. Must be an enormous planet out there, many astronomers assumed. Or several planets, even. This was how Planet X got its name: the term `X’ comes from the early-twentieth century astronomer Percival Lowell, best known for his study of the `canals’ on Mars.

But eventually, in the 1980s and 1990s, the riddle was solved. There appeared to be no mystery planet involved at all. Neither is there some mysterious force pulling on Neptune’s orbit. The astronomers simply had their orbit calculations wrong. But with better techniques, it all added up. By now, no serious astronomer believes in Planet X anymore. Exit Planet X.

But it was too late already. The Planet X-story had started to lead a life of its own. The breakthrough came in 1976, when a new age-writer by the name of Zecharia Sitchin linked the Planet X-problem of the astronomers up with Sumerian and Babylonian mythology.

Enter Sumerian religion. Like most people, the Sumerians had a lot of pretty neat stories about how the Earth came about. In one of them, it all began with a family quarrel between two gods, Tiamat and Marduk. The two picked a fight, and Marduk won. Pissed off as he was, Marduk cut Tiamat to bits. From the body parts he created our world. This leg here is the sky; that arm there, that'll be the land.

But Sitchin turned the story upside-down. To his opinion, the Sumerians were actually describing an ancient cosmic disaster. A collision between our own planet (Tiamat), and Marduk -- which was, of course, the mystery planet from the clay tablet, a.k.a. Planet X. Adds up nice, right?

Well: it doesn't. For one thing, Sitchin's translations of the Sumerian texts were terrible - for example, he got the word for `planet' wrong. And the words Nibiru and Marduk? Marduk was, besides a god, a nickname for the planet Jupiter. `Nibiru' simply means `ferry boat' and was sometimes used to describe... Jupiter! So in fact, what Sitchin holds for Planet X is simply good old Jupiter.

The astronomical side of the story is no good, either. A planet with a highly elliptic orbit of 3,600 years would after a few rotations fly off, direction deep space - or just become part of the 'normal' solar system. It is simply impossible there is a Planet X around. Physics forbids it, just like it forbids apples from falling upwards.

But how about the ten planets on the Sumerian tablet? That's decoration, probably. Or it could be Venus, as seen from Earth, and surrounded by stars. There are many, many clay tablets exactly like this one, and they all display funny little drawings in the corners: crosses, moons, stars -- you name it. So there's no need to think anything special of the `planets'. We can be sure of one thing, though: it isn't a astronomical map. The Sumerians believed our planet was a flat disc, they didn't believe the planets rotated around the Sun, and they had no way of seeing the outer planets Neptune, Pluto and Quaovar.

Still, Sitchins book was a bestseller, and Planet X gained quite a following on Earth. It still has. Some believe Planet X is an inhabited planet, inhabited by Atlantians, or pyramid-builders, or little green men, or... well, you know, that sort of thing. Even today, there are people around who claim they are in `telepathic contact’ with the inhabitants of the planet. Sigh... Some people will simply believe anything!

Aw... Hold it now. Is that all? Well, there’s this other thing. For in fact, Planet X has been spotted by NASA! In 1983, two astronomers named Neugebauer and Houck made headlines with their announcement that they had discovered a `Jupiter-sized planet’, cruising the galaxy at a distance of two billion kilometers from the Sun.

But: the headlines were wrong. What Neugebauer and Houck really told the press was that they discovered an irregularity in the infrared spectrum. It could be almost anything, they stated, ranging from a new planet to a distant galaxy. The press obviously preferred the planet. But after a while it became clear that what the astronomers really saw was a distant galaxy.

By now, numerous pictures, news clippings and remarkable facts `proving’ the existence of the dreaded Planet X are circulating the Net. But don’t stock on tin cans: they're all bogus (for the details, check out the fact sheet at the bottom of this page).

It is at this point many Planet X-believers resort to gossip and childish, X-filish conspiracy theory. According to one particular rumor, the astronomers hold back all information regarding Nibiru. The Russians would have taken photos of Planet X, including affirmed alien space ships hovering over its surface (see pictures below). Another rumor has it the coming of Planet X is covered up by hushy governments -- isn’t that why so many observatories are closed down for maintenance? Oh, sure! You must have a Sumerian clay tablet for a brain to buy stuff like that!

So: Planet-Ex?

You guessed it. If they ever start telling you about Planet-X, laugh your wits off. Don’t take any precautions – there’s no need. Planet X doesn’t exist. Never has. Never will. Off with you, Nibiru. Shoo

take time to read. go to that site. planet x is as real as evil reptilians
WonderWoman
Last I heard, Planet X was behind the sun, on the same Orbital path as earth and it's been their since it crashed into Mars and created the Asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.

WW
Hotoke
QUOTE(WonderWoman @ Jan 6 2005, 05:56 PM)
Last I heard, Planet X was behind the sun, on the same Orbital path as earth and it's been their since it crashed into Mars and created the Asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.

WW
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how do you people come up wtih this stuff
seeking
if a gigantic planet crashed into mars....why is mars still here?

seriously you people need to stop being so gullible, open minded is ok, but gullible is not, id tell you to look the word up but its not in the dictionary
STIX
QUOTE(seeking @ Jan 6 2005, 06:11 PM)
if a gigantic planet crashed into mars....why is mars still here?

seriously you people need to stop being so gullible, open minded is ok, but gullible is not, id tell you to look the word up but its not in the dictionary
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skeptics rule!
well I suppose according to the theory, mars and earth were one planet before "X" came around the sun on a collision course...

http://www.planet-x.150m.com/

check out this site, I think you all will be put in your place.

additionally,
Stars create light, blackholes absorb light, planets and nebula reflect some light, and absorb the rest...depending on their properties...some nebula may even create light.
seeking
so that would mean the world evolved into what it is today within 3600 years....right
cerberusxp
Looks pretty much like my premonition I posted a few days ago.
cerberusxp
QUOTE(whoa182 @ Jan 6 2005, 02:16 AM)
Wont the new telescope planned for use in a few years be able to see something like 12 time sharper than the hubble telescope?

I dont remember if they said it would be able to see Planets in other solar systems.  I think they have some new methods to block out star light.

Anyway, its VERY VERY good that we have found jupiter sized planets an bigger. If Jupiters didnt exist then Earth would be hit by asteroids to often. That means no advanced life.  Instead of asteroids hitting us every few millions years or watever , they would prob strike something like  every 100- 1000 years.  Not enough time for a civilization to exist.
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Read earth in upheaval by Immanuel Velikovsky!
Hotoke
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well I suppose according to the theory, mars and earth were one planet before "X" came around the sun on a collision course



dude it is impossible for planet x to exist
Area69
That's a really interesting link. Thanks!
Ciraxis
Sorry if this is a repeat topic. Anyone have anything supporting or against this? Was playing cards with old friends last night and one wouldn't stop talking about planet x. Just thought i'd ask you fine people for some info. He didn't have sources, so i only half listened. Any info?
seeking
planet x being a repeat topic....naaaaaaw, what made you get a crazy idea like that?

Ciraxis
just kinda guessed something like this would have already been brought up. maybe i'll sift through some old threads. sounds like a load of boiled horse crap though.
Pyxis
It's a joke. Have no fears of a planet crashing into ours.
Ciraxis
the things you talk about over poker
BurnSide
merged Planet X topics.
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