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FrostWarrior
wow. im in a new thread frenzy today. xD

lots of people have been talking about how their souls are negative and positive. Can some uber smart/psychic person tell me HOW evil i am? cause i know im evil. Even if there is ANY form of heaven, im not going to it xD

...or thats as far as i know O_O

so anyway, please tell me the alignment of my soul. yayz. bye. xD
torjan
Depending on the religion, every and any sin you ever committed is forgiven if you become baptised. After that if you commit mortal sins knowing full well what you are doing then yes, you would be kinda screwed.

Just think for the long term, would you like to be evil etc now and go to hell (not exactly a nice place), or live a postitive life, which would be more benefitial..
FrostWarrior
i was baptised into catholic christianity. so im screwed tongue.gif

this place is so OPTOMISTIC lately... tongue.gif xD lol
BurnSide
Anyone who says 'yeyz' is definately not evil. tongue.gif


FrostWarrior
xD no really, im bad. *does something evil to random scottish person*
Falco Rex
If you have to ask how Evil you are you aren't there yet..And torturing Scots is considered downright wholesome in some places..When you've really joined the dark side kid...We'll talk.. devil.gif
Curiosity
Frosty what makes you think you're evil? blink.gif

EDIT:*notices that the threas is in the right forum*
Kismit
It is now Whiskers .

And I have my fingers crossed for a quality discussion on the subject at hand .
FrostWarrior
its just a feeling, Whiskers. and i know feelings... stupid empathy tongue.gif xDDD
kikuchiyo
Some one considered evil by others, will not realize It is evil, as it is his nature. Take Dr. Lector, he saw him self as part of the world as a "normal" but "smart" individual, yet to Starling and the others he was a misfitted monster.

This comportment is seen in many of the worlds great evil, Charlie Manson or The Zodiac killer thought they were doing the "right" thing. As long as you are aware of your "evil", you will not be fundamentally evil, just pesky, annoying or simply mean.
***
Evil like righteous can be judged by one self but has to be judged by others.
FrostWarrior
do i get an answer? please? xD
FrostWarrior
Note: i have two sides. the little kid -ish one as you all see, and a darker side, which an ex friend of mine once thought of as demonic possession.
Curiosity
QUOTE(FrostWarrior @ Nov 15 2004, 06:55 PM)
Note: i have two sides. the little kid -ish one as you all see, and a darker side, which an ex friend of mine once thought of as demonic possession.
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How do you expect us to tell you if you're evil or not if we only know one side of you huh.gif ?
kikuchiyo
being Bi-polar isn't evil it's a mental illness. Basicly you can be evil and sane at the same time.
Q-La
QUOTE(FrostWarrior @ Nov 16 2004, 02:55 AM)
Note: i have two sides. the little kid -ish one as you all see, and a darker side, which an ex friend of mine once thought of as demonic possession.
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If the two sides are contraditory in nature one side will eat up the other sooner or later.
DrStrangelove
You almost sound proud that you're evil. And you seem convinced that you are going to hell. I would find that un-nerving knowing I am going to spend eternity in Hell...

You're a fan of slipknot aren't you?
Kismit
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being Bi-polar isn't evil it's a mental illness. Basicly you can be evil and sane at the same time.


No you can be anything from depressive to manic with all the range of emotions in-between . But not Good and evil in one that's a myth .This does not appear to be a case of Bi-polar disorder , allthough I am not a clinical psychologist I would be willing to bet a good 20 squid on it .



That's a good 20 squid not those shiny virtual dollars that get thrown around in here willy-nilly.
Kryso
To ask another if you yourself are evil isn’t the acts of a lucid mind; or one plagued by a tainted, evil soul. Maybe simply wanting to be different. Or a call for attention!
It’s all to do with psychology. Generally speaking an evil person doesn’t consider themselves evil, simply normal, and everyone else around them are abnormal. Basically it comes from an abnormal (in the sense of what is considered normal) upbringing. Being abused, beating, subjected to one of a hundred, socially unaccepted experiences.
Example: A serial killer starts small, with insects, animals, before moving onto humans – mainly from being beating and subjected to unnatural things by a dominating parent. He (I say he because a female serial killer is almost unheard of, normally always a Caucasian male) will not see what he is doing as wrong, in the sense of being able to control himself. A serial killer would need to ask another if he is what he is. Likewise to ascertain if you are evil by asking another is well, ludicrous. No offence meant. But I think it is safe to safe you are as normal (in the parameters of normality) as the rest of us.
Daughter of the Nine Moons
QUOTE(Kismit @ Nov 16 2004, 04:24 AM)

That's a good 20 squid not those shiny virtual dollars that get thrown around in here willy-nilly.
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Well said both Kismit and Kryso thumbsup.gif
kikuchiyo
Kismit, i think you misunderstood me, I meant to said being evil is not a mental illness, as i said in my first post in this thread you'll understand my stand on this topic.
FrostWarrior
i dont eat myself. i live with two minds. im fairly certain im sane
Kismit
So we agree on Bi-polar having nothing to do with Frost warriors question kikuchiyo . Still I am confused about evil not being a mental illness .

For Charles Manson was psychopathic and sociopathic with extreme narcisistic tendencies at the very least. All of these are mental disorders . Charles would have liked us to think he was evil , but he was actually just a sad little man with an unbalanced mind .

I agree 100% with Kryso that the answer to this question has more to do with a desire to feel different .
Zaus
Being raised in a religious setting has given you a faulty base of good and evil. Now that you realize religion is all bull you are living sanely, but there is that part of you that has been there since childhood that is telling you your going to hell. You dont have to listen to that part of yourself! There are plenty of people raised in religious backgrounds with this problem(including myself). Mainly catholic, christian, and islamic religions practice this kind of "Force your kid to be a part of your religion even though it will screw them up in the long run." Unless you are beating people up for the hell of it(Which would stem from never feeling secure with your own image) your probly not "evil." As long as you dont force your kids to religion you can break the chain that has been probly been going on from before your parents parents parents. My question is what are you doing that is so evil?
FrostWarrior
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Being raised in a religious setting has given you a faulty base of good and evil. Now that you realize religion is all bull you are living sanely, but there is that part of you that has been there since childhood that is telling you your going to hell.


thats about it
kikuchiyo
Kismy, have you seen the movie Dangerous Liaisons with Glenn Close and John Malkovich, they are evil, they are cynical, they are playing with the lives of others, yet they know the insanity all there actions causes. They are sane, yet evil. It a bit old but it's a great movie.

Some one can be evil and be sane at the same time, it is called being cruel. You can also be insane and evil that is called being sick.
Kismit


I haven't seen the movie but have experienced enough twisted and nasty people in reality to have learned a twisted individual is the product of sociopathic behaviour . Someone who is not connected to the feelings of others or those around them . Most likely lacking bonding experiences with a significant care giver at a very early age . Similar to the way dogs are less likely to attack if they have been socialised as puppies .

However Frost warrior does not claim to be dissasocitive just spasmodicly possesed . Of course in reality all teenage boys are just a little rough around the edges.
Insight
QUOTE(FrostWarrior @ Nov 15 2004, 05:25 PM)
i was baptised into catholic christianity. so im screwed tongue.gif

this place is so OPTOMISTIC lately... tongue.gif xD lol
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Catholic christianity is a scewed for of truth. It was designed by the Roman to control the populous. At the time, "Goddess worship" was in, and christianity was out. So the roman powers integrated the two, by heightening the virgin Mary to a goddess level status. Thus, roman catholicism was born. being baptized essentially means absolutely nothing unless YOU decide you want to part take of it as a symbolic act before god. It is meant to be an act to him of dedication. If you were baptized before you understood this, then it really means nothing. It has to be your own personal choice, not just a backwards ritual preformed on every single baby that's born.

I personally think catholicism is a false religion, but would never judge a person who is part of it, because some of them are right on target spiritually.

Insight

Being raised in a religious setting has given you a faulty base of good and evil. Now that you realize religion is all bull you are living sanely,


Religion was created by man. Faith was created by God. Faith in God transcends all religion.


Tia
QUOTE(FrostWarrior @ Nov 19 2004, 09:27 PM)
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Being raised in a religious setting has given you a faulty base of good and evil. Now that you realize religion is all bull you are living sanely, but there is that part of you that has been there since childhood that is telling you your going to hell.


thats about it
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I know the feeling, I'm also a non-practising Catholic.

Is it your thoughts that make you feel evil FrostyWarrior?
Me_Again
Something exists and soomething exits = a soul
Good or evil its all an experience, things change and...
s*** happens
Curiosity
Awww Frosty what are you talking about you're not evil! rolleyes.gif laugh.gif wub.gif


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Darkwind
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lots of people have been talking about how their souls are negative and positive. Can some uber smart/psychic person tell me HOW evil i am? cause i know im evil. Even if there is ANY form of heaven, im not going to it xD
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Frosty,
Nothing is totaly evil, and nothing is totaly good. We all have a dark side and a light side. The dark is our selfish side and the light is our giving side. Sometimes we need our selfish side to protect ourselves. If it gets out of hand and you find yourself hurting puppies or something like that then you need to get help to control that dark side so you don't end up spending your life in prison. On the other side if you are too giving you end up giving away all you are or have and that is not good either. Walk in the grey you will find life much easier.
I don't believe in heaven or hell. It is all about learning. Life after life you keep learning growing until ..... I don't know, but I am sure we will know when we are ready. That is the way I see things. Take it or leave it, matters not to me. It is your life Frosty make the best of it.
peace
Darkwind
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