mr_halo
Nov 16 2004, 04:19 AM
well i found this picture on the cryptozoology.com board and thought i'd post it....
i have no idea how big these snakes get, but it looks big to me...
any snake experts around?...
by the way if any mods are reading, can you change the title so rattlesnake is spelt correctly
kikuchiyo
Nov 16 2004, 04:27 AM
I'm no expert but I would say diamond back, the shape of the head and the pathern on the back seems resonably similar. He's abit more brownish than normal, a bit bigger too.
here's a link that might help
here
Canadian Rottweiler
Nov 16 2004, 04:31 AM
Looks photoshopped.The pic is too blurry,the head is too small,tail and rattle is disfigured,Actually there is no rattle.

Well,I have just come to the conclusion that it is a boa.Or a small boa photoshopped.Looks like he is holding it close to the camera so it LOOKS bigger,but it is actually small.It might even be a snake from another picture,and photoshopped so it is on the one you posted.
Deimos
Nov 16 2004, 04:43 AM
QUOTE(Canadian @ Nov 15 2004, 07:31 PM)
Looks photoshopped.The pic is too blurry,the head is too small,tail and rattle is disfigured,Actually there is no rattle.

Well,I have just come to the conclusion that it is a boa.Or a small boa photoshopped.Looks like he is holding it close to the camera so it LOOKS bigger,but it is actually small.It might even be a snake from another picture,and photoshopped so it is on the one you posted.
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Well, some rattlesnakes do get longer than that, but this one is incredibly fat. It's probably just a snake that's kept around the house. If it's a pet, it can easily get overweight. BTW canadian I don;t think that it's a boa. boas have very distinct markings and body types. this snake is very round, and boas have a more boxy shape to them. This is most likely just a captive (house or ranch) animal that has been a pet and just got overweight
Canadian Rottweiler
Nov 16 2004, 04:47 AM
It looks out of place.Too blurry to be real.Maybe it isn't a boa.If it is a rattler,than it has been photoshopped to look bigger,and that guy is holding the snake close to he lens,so it looks bigger than it actually is.
BTW,it doesn't have a rattle
Deimos
Nov 16 2004, 04:50 AM
okay here's what I mean. Here is a pic of a regular Savannah Monitor (I have one of these BTW

), most are this size or slightly larger
Click HereNow here is an exceptionally large savannah monitor. It was power-fed, which means that it was fed a lot every other day. This caused the lizard to grow beyond normal length, and it also caused it to become overweight. this is a common occurance among reptiles, though most of the time they just become overweight instead of growing excessively
mr_halo
Nov 16 2004, 05:04 AM
hey look at that thing
its kinda cute
Deimos
Nov 16 2004, 05:11 AM
^ the savannah monitor? Yeah, they are cute
Here are some pics of mine
mr_halo
Nov 16 2004, 05:13 AM
QUOTE(Monster Hunter X @ Nov 16 2004, 05:11 AM)
^ the svannah monitor? Yeah, they are cute
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well i didn't mean the ugly guy in the photo
Mad Manfred
Nov 16 2004, 06:01 AM
That's not so big
Seriously though, that thing looks like a small anaconda!
Deimos
Nov 16 2004, 06:25 AM
QUOTE(Mad Manfred @ Nov 15 2004, 09:01 PM)
That's not so big
Seriously though, that thing looks like a small anaconda!
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I've said this several times, but I can;t help but brag a little. I have a pet anaconda, and that thing doesn;t really look like one. Here are some pics of mine, which is a very young one BTW. Compare for yourself
Canadian Rottweiler
Nov 16 2004, 07:17 AM
Nice reptiles dude
mr_halo
Nov 16 2004, 07:20 AM
QUOTE(Monster Hunter X @ Nov 16 2004, 06:25 AM)
QUOTE(Mad Manfred @ Nov 15 2004, 09:01 PM)
That's not so big
Seriously though, that thing looks like a small anaconda!
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I've said this several times, but I can;t help but brag a little. I have a pet anaconda, and that thing doesn;t really look like one. Here are some pics of mine, which is a very young one BTW. Compare for yourself
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any excuse to show off his snake
Deimos
Nov 16 2004, 07:43 AM
Who me?...
mr_halo
Nov 16 2004, 07:53 AM
QUOTE(Monster Hunter X @ Nov 16 2004, 07:43 AM)
Who me?...

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yeah you, i must of seen your snake a million times
its a nice snake though....
beowulf
Nov 16 2004, 06:55 PM
As a registered Texan, I can truthfully say that the original picture is that of a baby Texas Diamondback rattler! You oughta see it's Daddy and Momma! Seriously, I have seen them that big. We killed one a couple of years ago around that size, when we opened it up, we found a full grown Jack-Rabbit (for you Brits, think about a very large hare) inside it's stomach (which is probably why we had little trouble killing it)! Before you reptile lovers get your shorts in a bunch, these things (especially that size) are a danger to our Cats, Dogs, and livestock, not to mention or kiddos or us!
Canadian Rottweiler
Nov 16 2004, 07:14 PM
You killed it?
You should have took it somewhere else away from your house so you could keep it alive...
beowulf
Nov 16 2004, 07:21 PM
Sorry, unwritten law of the west, suffer not rattlers or hydopoby skunks to live!
Vox
Nov 16 2004, 07:55 PM
Seriously though if that picture is real (the original one) wouldn't that bloke have to hold the damn thing up with two arms instead of one? I mean that thing looks heavy!
Mrs.Kahalioumi
Nov 16 2004, 08:39 PM
Hi All... I am not an expert, but I vollenteer at the local Fish and Wildlife station here in my county, and we have alot of Rattle-snakes. The longest Rattler that we have seen was over 8 feet long... This looks to be a Western Diamond-back, but more than likely is a "home-fed" snake. It is awfully fat. But I would definetly say that this photo is real... I will try to get ahold of some other pics of snakes that we have on file.
Note, tho, that average length for a mature rattler is not this big... 4-5'... But there are always the extreams of everything... Especially since this snake looks to be a home fed one... Snakes, when properly cared for in captivity, can reach outragous lenghts..
Hope this helps!
Mrs.Kahalioumi
Nov 16 2004, 08:41 PM
QUOTE(beowulf @ Nov 16 2004, 11:55 AM)
As a registered Texan, I can truthfully say that the original picture is that of a baby Texas Diamondback rattler! You oughta see it's Daddy and Momma! Seriously, I have seen them that big. We killed one a couple of years ago around that size, when we opened it up, we found a full grown Jack-Rabbit (for you Brits, think about a very large hare) inside it's stomach (which is probably why we had little trouble killing it)! Before you reptile lovers get your shorts in a bunch, these things (especially that size) are a danger to our Cats, Dogs, and livestock, not to mention or kiddos or us!

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Wow, I didn't realize that the Texas Diamond-back looked so much like the western diamod back! That is awsome, and I stand corrected...
beowulf
Nov 16 2004, 09:58 PM
Whoa thar podner, I never said that snake belonged to the group called "Texas Diamondback Rattler". I was merely denoting that it was from the area of Texas. Guess what species of Rattler we have in Texas! First three guess don't count. Incidentally to my knowledge there is no such species as a Texas Diamondback. We do also have Woodsland and Pararie (never could spell that) rattlers along with sidewinders! Do you know that everything is bigger in Texas. BTW the one we killed measured 6.75 feet., but I have seen them much longer.
mr_halo
Nov 16 2004, 10:45 PM
thank you to the moderator who changed the topic title
looks much better spelt correctly....
mr_halo
Nov 16 2004, 10:46 PM
QUOTE(Vox @ Nov 16 2004, 07:55 PM)
Seriously though if that picture is real (the original one) wouldn't that bloke have to hold the damn thing up with two arms instead of one? I mean that thing looks heavy!
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maybe its dead, or unconcious....
Panthera leo atrox
Nov 16 2004, 11:21 PM
Many of the cryptozoologysts at Cryptozoology.com have suggested farced perspective
mr_halo
Nov 17 2004, 12:15 AM
QUOTE(Panthera leo atrox @ Nov 16 2004, 11:21 PM)
Many of the cryptozoologysts at Cryptozoology.com have suggested farced perspective

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well that is an easy way to make something look bigger than it actually is, many supposed crypto photos do this...
nathan12345
Nov 17 2004, 01:36 AM
As a registered Texan, I can truthfully say that the original picture is that of a baby Texas Diamondback rattler! You oughta see it's Daddy and Momma! Seriously, I have seen them that big. We killed one a couple of years ago around that size, when we opened it up, we found a full grown Jack-Rabbit (for you Brits, think about a very large hare) inside it's stomach (which is probably why we had little trouble killing it)! Before you reptile lovers get your shorts in a bunch, these things (especially that size) are a danger to our Cats, Dogs, and livestock, not to mention or kiddos or us!
knowing a hole lot of snake info i know that is no baby the d backs max out around 6ft they can get bigger but that is no baby
Nobody
Nov 17 2004, 03:59 PM
beowulf
Nov 17 2004, 04:31 PM
As I said, everything is bigger in Texas! Incidentally, the original "Rattlesnake Roundup" was in Sweetwater Texas and has become an annual event and one that draws folks almost worldwide. Living near Sweetwater (historical trivia - the town where Bat Masterson, the famous sheriff shot and killed his first man), I usually make it there and have seen snakes as large as the first photo and maybe the second one too. If you are every around Sweetwater in March, try to make a point of coming by....incidentally they serve fried rattlesnake (tastes like chicken, I'm told)!
JennRose
Nov 17 2004, 04:44 PM
I agree it's a real rattler, but I think the fella's holding a pole closer to camera. Forced perspective, as other people have already said.
But they do get really big. My father shot one swimming in pond (yes, they can and do swim sometimes) near his house that was nearly 6ft long.
I've also been to Rattlesnake roundups in Claxton, Ga., which is near where I grew up. (welcome to the DEEP South) The snakes in the pens get SO loud, it's amazing. And rattlesnake's not too bad deep fried.

I'm horrifed by this now, though. I've turned into a tree-hugging, Sierra Club member, so regret that they still continue to do this.
mr_halo
Nov 17 2004, 09:31 PM
well i've never seen a rattlesnake, so i have no idea as to how big they get...
i think its a genuine photo though, without any alterations...
Syaoransbear
Nov 17 2004, 10:37 PM
Definitely a diamondback. And the pole is held closer to the camera since the pole looks very short, when it's probably long so the snake doesn't bite him. I think it was accidental though.
It's not unconcious since it's body isn't limp. And if you look there IS a rattle. It's just sideways to the camera so you can't see it very well.
And since we're all showing off pictures of our reptiles... :wab:
http://photobucket.com/albums/v509/Syaoran...=Picture006.jpgThere's my miami phase/Okeetee corn snakes! Kahlua is the one going up and Gunther is the one going down.

Yee hee!!!
nathan12345
Nov 18 2004, 01:29 AM
here is few pics of my snakes the first is a vansing poing hypo houndron milk wasnt cheap got him from Shannon Brown
nathan12345
Nov 18 2004, 01:32 AM
sorry
nathan12345
Nov 18 2004, 01:34 AM
just a red tail
nathan12345
Nov 18 2004, 01:37 AM
the snake in my av. is my freinds mojva ball python and i also have a normal ball python and a few corns 1 albino 2 normals and 1 crimson
mr_halo
Nov 18 2004, 02:04 AM
wow...nice pets guys
clifford1944
Nov 18 2004, 11:42 PM
Yes nice pet snakes. I'm too afraid of them to have one as a pet. I'm a wimp. Just stay with a dog.
autopsies
Nov 19 2004, 02:35 AM
O.o That is not fake, it is a rattler. In my opinion anywho. I don't see anything weird or abnormal 'bout it...I have seen Diamond backs larger than this before, and it is definiatly NOT a boa or anyother constritior. The mid-section is to wide, just looks like has been fed to much. Also, it does have a rattler, very small though, I'd say about four or five links at the bottom. It is a viper of some sort I will give it that. Not fake, not hoaxed.
Panthera leo atrox
Nov 19 2004, 11:45 PM
The farced perspective was probably an accident.
hamellr
Nov 20 2004, 12:31 AM
I agree - it's real. I've seen 6 foot+ Rattle snakes in Southern and Central Oregon. Heck when I was a kid anyone who worked outside carried a gun to fend them off - I assume in some of the more remote parts of Oregon that still happens. My grandfather got quite a lot of buisness repairing and replacing tires that had been punctured by rattle snake fangs.
We also had a skin from one mounted on the wall. It was about 6 feet long too. (I remeber it use to give me nightmares.)
mr_halo
Nov 20 2004, 10:11 AM
QUOTE(hamellr @ Nov 20 2004, 12:31 AM)
I agree - it's real. I've seen 6 foot+ Rattle snakes in Southern and Central Oregon. Heck when I was a kid anyone who worked outside carried a gun to fend them off - I assume in some of the more remote parts of Oregon that still happens. My grandfather got quite a lot of buisness repairing and replacing tires that had been punctured by rattle snake fangs.
We also had a skin from one mounted on the wall. It was about 6 feet long too. (I remeber it use to give me nightmares.)
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well i have no idea how big the snake in the photo is, it could be over 6ft i guess..
Canadian Rottweiler
Nov 20 2004, 10:37 AM
These Gardner snakes are common in Canada.Especially in BC where i live.I have caught many of these snakes.Kept them as pets for a week or so,then released them.

Here is a pic of one...
The second is not a snake,but it is of my Leopard Bahama Anole lizard

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Nov 20 2004, 07:28 PM
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