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twpdyp
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that was very uncalled for....not everyone one the internet is 15....
I for one, am 16....

Me also, I am 16 well........... ok that is 16 plus 27. So I have a proclivity to exaggerate a wee bit.
Dancing_Dumplings
oh oh oh! im almost 18 grin2.gif in 3 months tongue.gif
i still think they should ban kiddie porn disgust.gif sick bastards. they also should hunt down those people who tell kids in poverty, "sure ill get you a job in a facotry or where ever! and a nice place to stay!" but then end up making them be prostitues and make them do porn disgust.gif those people should be tortured untill they die from the pain and aggony. they dont deserve to live disgust.gif
Graphixman
QUOTE(Janiel @ Nov 19 2004, 09:44 PM)
WASHINGTON - Comparing pornography to heroin, researchers are calling on Congress to finance studies on “porn addiction” and launch a public health campaign about its dangers.


As if the government needs to spend money on another pointless "Study".

Hummmm on second thought the government should privitize the study and ask the public to study it. I'll volunteer! tongue.gif

hahaha
Great Big Sea
QUOTE(Dog Demon @ Nov 20 2004, 08:15 AM)
And Google has to clean up the stuff in the images section. You type in stuff like dalmation, you get porn. Respectable people don't want to see that trash!
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Several months ago I emailed Google.ca about that porn and stuff I can't quite remember what the email said. But I don't think they even will filter this kind of crap out. And I don't really quite
trust using Yahoo either. disgust.gif
Shadowsleet
When did hentai become such a blackmark? huh.gif Are you worried that someone is infringing upon the human rights of pixels and ink by making them participate in degrading pics?

Canadian Rottweiler
Who the hell wants to look at porn cartoons.Cartoons were originally for kids,now adults watch hentai cartoon porn blink.gif If you want porn,then why not get the actual thing then of real chicks.Unless some people are so shy of girls that they can't even look at one,so they go to hentai,which is stupid rolleyes.gif
Subtemperate
Same could be said of humans who say they are dogs wink2.gif grin2.gif
Shadowsleet
The Shadster is neither shy of girls, nor is he stupid...yet he sees nothing wrong with hentai.

I could lie and talk about, unlike genuine porn, which is invariably tasteless smut, anime can (and usually is) artistic and blablabla....but I won't tongue.gif The fact is that there is a certain lack of maturity among many young adult males, and we're prone to find anime or video game characters just as attractive as the real thing tongue.gif The fact that millions of men across the world made such a fuss about Lara Croft is proof (personally, I am not, and never have been, altogether taken with her).

But that aside....to date, the hentai industry has not physically or emotionally harmed any woman, or taken advantage of any child...and while it has no doubt given nose bleeds to plenty of immature young folks trying to hunt down pictures of Yuna from FFX-2 somehow managing to wear less than she does in the game, I fail to see where this hatred of it comes from.

Personally, I think I'd be far more disturbed if, many years down the line, I were to talk in on my teenage child looking at actual porn, than I would be if it were hentai....don't ask me why, I just don't consider it in the same class.
Janiel
Good point, i agree with most of it.
except for one thing...Lara Croft is NOTHING compared to BloodRayne.
With that said, Porn has degraded countless women, young and old. Hentai can be embarrasing, but it cant degrade any one woman...
Shadowsleet
Exactly. Long live hentai.

Personally, I think anyone who considers it compairable to child porn is not only showing a huge amount of disrespect to the anime subculture, but obviously has little or no understanding of it....
Janiel
exactly thumbsup.gif
Shadowsleet
"exactly" eh? tongue.gif....I'm starting to see how you have 8508 posts in less than 8 months tongue.gif
Janiel
actually, i've been a member for over a year and a half tongue.gif


that, and i forgot the rest of what i was going to post in that post
Shadowsleet
Ah, so you did....for some reason, I momentarily forgot it was 2004....must be all the hentai killing my brain cells tongue.gif
Janiel
you are too much like Sera....it's scaring me....
are you sure you aren't Sera? huh.gif
Shadowsleet
ROTFLMAO!

Yes, I'm quite sure tongue.gif I have just recently returned from the bathroom, so I have by default just recently checked that I am, indeed, male. It is funny you mention that, as it has been a persistant rumour for several years now....

Sera and I are very alike, it is true. It doesn't help that it's very rare indeed for me to get a chance to post without her forcing some kind of input into the equation. You're not the first to pick up on it, and you're probably not gonna be the last either tongue.gif

I do, however, assure you that Sera and I are seperate entities. There are no Scottish chimeras.
Subtemperate
If they are the same entity...I shall be looking for the ejector seat on the ride called life.....

Anyway..... Porn is bad, video games bad, music bad, line dancing bad, eating sugar bad, jumping off a building bad.....

Lets just put everyone in a box with nothing to do, as taking away things from people who are troubled will obviously make them better.....

Porn is one of the LEAST problematic things in the world (apart from child stuff obviously)..... SO much other stuff, and we want to know if watching a couple of people having sex can become addictive. ANYTHING can become addictive if your weak enough.
Shadowsleet
As usual, you are correct, and Subtemperate and the Shadster are in agreement.

And on a sidenote, you need not fear tongue.gif I might be lecherous, but I'm not so lecherous I would persue some kind of psudohomosexual relationship with you to cover up my gender bending tendancies if I actually was Sera dontgetit.gif

....if you'll excuse me....I suddenly feel very sick....
Subtemperate
Im suddenly changing my mind on the hentai thing.... wink2.gif
Shadowsleet
Hey! Don't knock hentai! My girlfriend's english, I need something man crying.gif


*rephrases that, as it doesn't make much sense*

My girlfriend LIVES in england.
Subtemperate
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Being half english...I totally agree laugh.gif
Janiel
QUOTE(Shadowsleet @ Dec 2 2004, 11:43 PM)
Hey! Don't knock hentai! My girlfriend's english, I need something man crying.gif


*rephrases that, as it doesn't make much sense*

My girlfriend LIVES in england.
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at least you have a girfriend...
*goes back to that "other" site he was just on*

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Shadowsleet
You're half english? The Shadster was not aware of this....hmm...does that make you my blood enemy?

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at least you have a girfriend...
*goes back to that "other" site he was just on*


That was sarcasm man...I'm not exactly experiencing a sexual drought...although thank you for sharing such a personal moment with us. Please do not do it again...I'm feeling sick as it is after talking about a psuedohomosexual relationship with Subby wacko.gif
Subtemperate
....and half australian..... SO im deeply confused, as we like england as much as most of scotland would..... sad.gif

Anyway.... Porn didnt make me insane, lack of it did original.gif
Shadowsleet
So we are in agreement? Hentai and porn are perfectly healthy, natural things, that annoy only religious zealots, and/or folks who need to relax a little? (no jokes about what Frankie says by the way...I don't mean that kind of relaxing)
Janiel
QUOTE(Shadowsleet @ Dec 2 2004, 11:47 PM)
although thank you for sharing such a personal moment with us
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crap....
*goes to edit post*

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j/k


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Hentai and porn are perfectly healthy


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Subtemperate
Yes..... Banning drugs I can see..... Hentai and Porn.....no. Those who want that, should put there heavenly hearts to better purposes and work with the homeless, or drug addicts....
Shadowsleet
Yes....there are so many things that would be a better use of time and money than trying to keep teenagers away from porn...Besides, what would they rather curious young adults do? Look up porn to satisfy their curiousity, or rush out and have sex with each other to do so?

This will have to be my last post in here I'm afraid lads. Time for uni.
Neverheardofit
Its just gross and wrong!Some of it comes from the music buisness and people who are suddenly famous cos they're naked all the time.not naming anyone whistling2.gif *jordan* mad.gif grrrr
SerenitysRiver
I finally caught up with this post again... I'm glad that I'm not alone in saying that hentai isn't all bad.

Oh, and to Canadian's post a little while back: You are confusing cartoons with animation. Cartoons are a form of animation geared toward children, true. That does not mean that animation in general was designed for children only. There are all forms of storytelling art that have been used for many purposes and for many age groups. Hentai is not a cartoon. It is not for children. It isn't even a perversion of something meant for children, as most animes are not cartoons for children to begin with.
Imperial Master Fear
I love porn to be honost... w00t.gif

i am not sick, it doesn't ruin my life...still got my job...i hate child abusers. So i seem to be pretty normal and still love porn.

Altavista, a search engine, allows parents to set a password ..so porn-stuff is filtered. It works pretty well
Cradle of Fish
DONT BLAME MY PRECIOUS PORN!!!!!!

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I am me
Porn should not be banned, in any form or kind. If you are sick and want to watch kid porn, or porn where the person is killed afterwards, then you should be able to. There is no harm done in watching that. Many of us have watched the TV show COPS where people are doing drugs, speeding, running red lights, beating their spouses, all of which are illegal yet we watch it on broadcast television. If watching kid porn is illegal then watching COPS should be illegal.

There wouldn't be any porn what so ever if there wasn't a consumer base for it. I enjoy a little free internet porn (the adult variety) from time to time. I have had long term relationships where I was having sex fairly often and I still viewed the porn. It is good for a quick release every now and then. All males know what I am talking about if you are through puberty. Many women find porn repulsive, yet some of them read the romance novels that let you make up your own mind.

I don't like kid porn, I don't like hentai and neither do most of you, but that is no reason for it to be banned. There is nothing wrong with viewing it. If you are making the kid porn, now that could be considered illegal.

You can't just have the government ban everything YOU don't like, because somebody else out there may in fact like it. It isn't harming any of you or your property by having porn of any kind be legal. I get on the internet many times a day and I never see porn...only when I am looking for it. If you are visiting sites that do have pop ups and you find them annoying, get a pop up blocker or don't view that site. It is that simple. Don't hope the government bans it, because it may make you and a few others happy but it won't make everyone happy. It is too easy to not view porn, I don't see why it should be banned....and government should be the very last resort to turn to, but it has become the first resort. Everyone turns to the government to fix their problems. If we continue to do this, we will soon be a dictatorship. We are well on our way now. I guess freedom only means you are free minus an entire list of things that you think of. Just remember everyone else will have a different list, and then everything will be banned and the government will run your life how it wants to and not how you want it to.

Sorry but after reading most of the posts on this topic, I had to speak my mind.
warden
bla bla bla bla sorry but after reading certain posts so do i rofl.gif rolleyes.gif rofl.gif
Chris_com28
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Mary Anne Layden, co-director of a sexual trauma program at the University of Pennsylvania, said pornography’s effect on the brain mirrors addiction to heroin or crack cocaine.

The same has been said about junk food. However, it would be an extreme resort to ban all unhealthy food just because allow it to control them.

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She told of one patient, a business executive, who arrived at his office at 9 a.m. each day, logged onto Internet porn sites, and didn’t log off until 5 p.m.

I saw one person who almost had their house filled with crap that they brought due to their adciction to shopping. That seems far more coruptable than pornography.

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Layden called for billboards and bus ads warning people to avoid pornography, strip clubs and prostitutes.

Ok so their beef is with the forms of sexual freedom that are socially wrong. How is prostitution different from having sex with someone you don't pay to do it with? Sex is never free anyway. It seems they're completely ignoring the fact that people can become addicted to almost anything, even sex. It's because that those things are already victims of prejudice which makes them a perfect scapegoat for what's wrong with this world.

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In June, the Supreme Court blocked a law designed to shield Web-surfing children from pornography, ruling that requiring adults to register or use access codes before viewing objectionable material would infringe on their rights.

Access codes which require a credit card? If people really want to see porn nothing like that is going to stop them. There is no way to legally view child pornography is some countries but yet they're still getting arresting for viewing it. How is making sites use ID verification going to solve this? It's just going to be more abundent on illegal sites, making the subject even more of a taboo and would probablly even restrict peoples freedom to view it. This doesn't seem to far from a war on pornograhpy.

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But he pointed to studies that show prolonged use of pornography leads to “sexual callousness, the erosion of family values and diminished sexual satisfaction.”

It depend on what people think these family values are. If their opinion is a family woh have loving parents who never look twice at another human no matter how attractive and only have eyes and sexual organs and hormones for each other then yes, it will erode "family values".
I'm sure that pornography can also lead to less sexual gratifiaction. Porn editers have said how it does nothing to them anymore. Woudln't this be true about other things? After playing the same level on the same game over and over again wouldn't you get slightly bored?

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Porn is degrading, disturbing, I think it's illegal in some countries, and it's just plain SICK. I mean, for crying out loud, what kind of messed-up pervert wants to look at naked people doing...*shudder*

Doing what's pefectly natural and a part of reprodiction?

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I think porn addiction is real. If you type in the most random thing on Google you get porn.

That is just people trying ot make money from it. Nothing is free form corruption. People just take advantage of something popular in an attempt to corrupt it and use it as another way to give themselves more money and power. What those people offer isn't just pornography but an oppertunity to give them more money.

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I don't want to be filtering through that trash every time I go on Google.

There are filters for that kind of thing. Norton has one and even google has a filter on it's image search engine.

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There's magazines, books, movies, there's a freaking porn channel for God's sake!

Ok so first you attack pornography for people showing it everywhere then you attack people for putting it on a channel that is so well hidden that I've probablly only saw it once and you need to actually subscribe to get access to it.

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I hope this "addiction source" is someday illegal.

Well it would be extremely inconsitant if you just ban one "addcition source". What about cars, shopping, junk food, drugs or computer games?

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Forgot to mention, about porn destroying lives, isn't it responsibe for a lot of divorces and break-ups?

Could those break-up be caused by arguements about their partners right to view pornography?

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But the Kiddie and Hentai crap should be banned from the net,cause no normal person wants to see that crap

Are you fekking serious!? Are you seriously saying that you can decide unbiasly how like and doesn't like hentai? How do you define normality? First you would have to prove a universal normality and show that hentai is universally abonrmal, which I doubt will ever happen.

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And Google has to clean up the stuff in the images section. You type in stuff like dalmation, you get porn.

Google has a filter on their images which appears to have been on for months. I have been unable to find porn on their even when I tried to so people like you should have no problem.

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what is difference between hardcore and softcore?

I think hardcore is when it's real sex where they actually show the sexual organs during activity. Softcore I think is just people naked or pretending to have sex.

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I guess we could start a petition...But there are plenty of love-luckless men who'd go against us.

I'm sure there already is one. What about those fundamentalists who like to stand outside adult shop all night? I'm sure they have a few hours to spare for a petition. I doubt it would do much though. What good is majority compared to intelligence and mature discussions?

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crap...I heard on CBN 700 Club that there is well over 76,000 Porn website in the internet...Maaaaaaaaan...

And easier to find than WMDs in Iraq. I remember while watching a documentary about technology in science class that one women said how hard it is to find porn on the Internet. Obviously she's just accepted the BS offered to her and never actually used the Internet.

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Sex isn't a problem.Adult porno isn't a problem.That kiddie and hentai is a BIG problem.Who agrees with that?

Care to elaborate? I agree child porn is a big problem as they're only children and don't fully understand what they're doing, which is why 7 year olds don't have as much freedome as adults. I still don't see what's so wrong with hentai apart from the fact that it's wrong and sick and I don't understand how people like it so I'll ban it and it'll make my brain hurt a lot less once I don't have to strain myself by thinking about it.

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those people should be tortured untill they die from the pain and aggony. they dont deserve to live

What good would that do execpt make some sadistic people feel slightyl better about themselves?
Yeah he was a sick, sick man but we gave him the most brutal death imaginable, just like the torture that he inflicted on his victims. He was sick in the head and it's a good thing we were able to f*** him up when we did or we would end up just like him.
How will torture help them? They're already going to die so what's it going to do? No lessons learnt, no redemption, just an excuse for a scapegoat. They do it because because they're seriously mentally damaged but the other people do it not because of this but because they're simply looking for a scapegoat.

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Yes..... Banning drugs I can see..... Hentai and Porn.....no.

I dount they'll be able to ban drugs either. Think about how much money they wasted on the war on drugs, how hard they cracked down and how popular illegal drugs are today. I doubt it could be sucessfully banned unless they brainwash society, create a police state and a global government.

I like to watch pron sometimes but hate it being so public. Some people don't want to see it and I fully support it. Even I am sick of it sometimes. Has anyone here heard of them stupid orgasm ringtones? The producers claim how popular they are and everyone has them. What BS. I've never heard one go of in my life. The idea is just stupid and I'm glad the adverts didn't last for long.
There are many thing that I find disgusting but wouldn't want banned. I just want it away from people who don't want to see it.
RaginCajun
also, sometimes porn is used to help couples that need that extra help to strenthen thier relationships...

i personally don't care if anyone watches porn. i don't watch porn and just leave it out of my view...
warden
when my stash of porn is found no.gif ohmy.gif sad.gif

when my friend drops of a new supply grin2.gif thumbsup.gif w00t.gif

I think you where i stand thumbsup.gif
tiddlyjen
porn bores me...i dont watch it (lol that sounded soo0o bad) but i just dont understand why so many people get off on it...
BurnSide
I agree completely. I've only seen it at parties, for the funniness of it. It's so pathetic it's hilarious. Definately doesn't get my rocks off.
AztecInca
Personally it makes me sick but if others want to watch it, its their choice and they have every right to!
MeaPlum
QUOTE(Dog Demon @ Nov 19 2004, 11:21 PM)
Forgot to mention, about porn destroying lives, isn't it responsibe for a lot of divorces and break-ups?
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This is not an attack on this poster! Everyone is entitled to their opinion about porn.

That said.... I am so sick and freakin' tired of hearing about addiction to this, and compulsion to do that, and 'its's the media's fault, and I was brainwashed by TV commercials for tight low-rise jeans or whatever the heck.

What ever happened to people being responsible for their own actions???????

Porn is not responsible for divorces and break-ups!! Stupid men and women who CHOOSE to look at porn all day instead of be active in their relationship cause divorces and break-ups!

People have no sense of self responsibility any more. The victim/blame game is what it is all about. Like little Timmy in kindergarten blaming little Joey for eating all the cookies so he doesn't have to deal with the fact that he did!
JennRose
I just really enjoyed hearing everyone's responses to this topic. grin2.gif

As for me, eh, I really don't care either way. Porn doesn't really flip my switch, but I can see how it's good for some folks to release...um..."tension", be it by cartoons, siliconed babes or what not (violating children is of course disgusting and rightfully illegal, but we all seem in agreement there). The government needs to back off of some regulations and just let adults be adults and take responsibility.
dantheman2435
hmm.gif Porn destroing lives? thats kinda sad... what kind of people get addicted to watching some guy and gal enjoying themselves? (or an other form of porn)

It's a crazy world we live in!
Chris_com28
You find it funny, BurnSide?blink.gif What kind of porn have you been watching? Is it one of those cheesey British comedy ones or those dramas that keep to a story len that you couldn't care less about? Gonzo's the only way to go.
dantheman2435
how many different names of porn are there anyway.... Regular porn, lesbiean porn.. the list go on and on and on.. no wonder people destorying their lives!
warden
What a cheesy name PORN,somehow that name is ment to make you feel cheap and dirty .

Do you feel cheap and dirty when you watch it aaaaahhhhh to late wub.gif
Cradle of Fish
Dont forget the internet was invented for porn.
Janiel
Yes, Cradle of Fish.
Shoes were also invented for living in.
warden
QUOTE(Janiel @ Jan 1 2005, 11:09 AM)
Yes, Cradle of Fish.
Shoes were also invented for living in.
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Now people do other things in shoes.......disgusting
Forgive24get
QUOTE(Dog Demon @ Nov 19 2004, 08:21 PM) [snapback]364422[/snapback]

Forgot to mention, about porn destroying lives, isn't it responsibe for a lot of divorces and break-ups?



Well, I'm new to using forums but I have a problem. My boyfriend watches porn and I don't know what to do. I don't want to be mad at him but at the same time it really bothers me. I don't like it at all. But he's addicted and can't tear himself from it. I've never looked at it or had any interest. I was just wondering what causes somebody to want to look at it? What about it or what feeling over comes a person who is addicted to cause them to have a need to look at it. I just want to try to understand a little better so we're not one of the statistics. I'll take any advice I can get.
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