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Whom_God_Loves
I want someone here to present facts,real photos, and other real evidence of aliens,

I don't want to hear about them channeling to you in your dreams or any bs like that, I want hardcore evidence , make me and others believe you thumbsup.gif
Hotoke
stranded alien



table ufo

hungary airforce captured ufo

some random usa ufo

human made

tiny alien

stranded alien

russian ufo





if there is anything like good evidence it is dismissed as fake if it is to blurry it is also fake such is the logic of ufo sceptics
Stellar
Honestly, there is no proof. You cant be sure of anything, least of all, photos.
Whom_God_Loves
Those are nice Hotoke, but I highly doubt those are pictures you've personally taken yourself, I'm sure george lucas can make an alien look just like that, not to mention he already has.

I listen to Coast all the time, I hear about these stories, but it seems they never have any proof, I would like to believe, I mean it's a huge universe.
Diebytheflyguy
If you have belief in God, why don't you believe in aliens?
Dancing_Dumplings
QUOTE(Stellar @ Nov 19 2004, 05:30 PM)
Honestly, there is no proof. You cant be sure of anything, least of all, photos.
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stellar is right, no one can be sure whats real and whats fake. its all speculation, assumptions and what you believe. no one can be really sure whats "real" some people believe in God and some dont. we cant all believe the same things. that would make life boring and dull grin2.gif
photos can be extremely deceiving, especially with the new software that keeps coming out.
Whom_God_Loves
Because I believe God exists from personal experiences,
Whom_God_Loves
Don't try to spin and deflect the subject, I asked about aliens here
Deimos
QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Nov 19 2004, 01:46 PM)
If you have belief in God, why don't you believe in aliens?
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Because the 2 ideas don't mix. Are you religious? If you study it, the idea of aliens goes against religious ideals
Dancing_Dumplings
here is a site that can teach you how to fake a UFO photo and whatnot. if you put time and effort into it, you can make it look believable
faking a ufo
Deimos
^ interesting link DD. That's real food for thought
Dancing_Dumplings
you could be religious and still belive in aliens, cant you?
Hotoke
the only way to confirm the existence of aliens is to see one with your own eyes. no photo or video will help.
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(Whom_God_Loves @ Nov 19 2004, 05:50 PM)
Don't try to spin and deflect the subject, I asked about aliens here
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I'm not, I just find it interesting that you are asking for real facts, real photos, real proof of aliens, but God is exactly the same. There are no real facts, not one has actually seen him, so the question is why is believing in God different than believing in aliens?

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Because I believe God exists from personal experiences

And I believe aliens exist from person experiences. Is this proof?
Whom_God_Loves
Very true Hotoke, it is something I would have to witness with my owns eyes, my curiousity will keep my mind open, but I most likely will never believe until I see an alien with my own eyes.
Whom_God_Loves
QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Nov 19 2004, 07:02 PM)
QUOTE(Whom_God_Loves @ Nov 19 2004, 05:50 PM)
Don't try to spin and deflect the subject, I asked about aliens here
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I'm not, I just find it interesting that you are asking for real facts, real photos, real proof of aliens, but God is exactly the same. There are no real facts, not one has actually seen him, so the question is why is believing in God different than believing in aliens?

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Because I believe God exists from personal experiences

And I believe aliens exist from person experiences. Is this proof?
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It is proof enough for me, I have not had an experience with aliens so I fail to believe, just as if we swaped stories, neither of us would believe each other.
gryphon_2005
QUOTE(Whom_God_Loves @ Nov 19 2004, 06:50 PM)
Don't try to spin and deflect the subject, I asked about aliens here
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Regardless of ALIENS, Government Conspiracies -- BY ALL MEANS follow your own heart and go from there. There is an inner conscience within us that seems to ascertain far better than the Bull Headed conflict of personalities we sometimes have to contend with.

I can prove NEITHER the existance of God NOR the UFO's being EXTRAterrertrial. I can only offer what I can in opinion and supported "facts" that come to me. But in me HEART I know they are real .. but my "GOD" is a Universal, omnipotent - NON-ANTHROPOMORPHIC "existance" that encompases the entire Universe. NOT some cranky, long bearded tempermental Old Fart who has fits of rage. But my OPINIONS are just that .. opinions. ALL others are just as welcome.

BUT .. there ARE some things best not known about!

From The Gryphon's Lair

Dancing_Dumplings
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BUT .. there ARE some things best not known about!

grin2.gif yup yup! if everything was solved life would be boring sad.gif gotta leave some things unexplained grin2.gif
the master theologian
There is no benefit on believing in aliens. Actually, it all depends on your
other beliefs. So, it is't safe to say that religion is't somehow tied to a
belief of other-worldly beings. Since most religions are based on men
and women, gods, angels, spirits etc... which were supposed to come
from another world. Do you think that God is an alien? The Bible says
that He flies in a chariot... How much closer can it get to a UFO?
Most people don't see it at all, but religion is tied to aliens.
Thats a fact. With that said, if you are religious, then it would't do
harm in believing in aliens. Infact, I find it that it strengthens your
faith. Therefore, one reason for believing in aliens is because it
benefits your mind on broadening your horizons.
Insight
I believe in the christian God, and I also believe in "aliens", though I don't like the term much. I believe they were created at the beginning of time along with us, and are souless, cold, logical beings of terrible evil and malevolence. Some think they are the "serpents" of Genesis, the ones who decived eve. Some think they are demonic hybrids of humans and the giants of old. Personally, I side with either theory.

Biblically, the Nephelim did exist. They were demons cast down to earth from heaven, who took the form of giants. They were inhuman, and without eternal souls. Where did they go? Anywhere they could.
Asterix
QUOTE(Insight @ Nov 20 2004, 07:34 AM)
I believe they were created at the beginning of time along with us, and are souless, cold, logical beings of terrible evil and malevolence. Some think they are the "serpents" of Genesis, the ones who decived eve. Some think they are demonic hybrids of humans and the giants of old.
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That's very one-track minded theory, quite naive in its approach actually.
If we take the theological way, it would be foolishly egoistic to believe that "the good God loved only humans, and created aliens to be souless and cold beings of terrible evil". Some of them might be this way, some of them might be better than us. (And it wouldn't depend on God's "original" formating but on their own race's evolution, sociologically).
If we take the scientific way, then it's even more probable and sense-making that random choice would allow out of x intelligent life forms created in Universe, approx. x/2 being "good" (meaning understanding, respecting, caring in nature) and approx. x/2 being "evil" (war-driven, selfish, etc).
Of course the x/2 is entirely theoretical, and one could argue that many other parameters are in the game. (e.g. "evil" races, races that are warriors by nature, have greatest chances to survive)
scipherel
QUOTE(Whom_God_Loves @ Nov 19 2004, 11:07 PM)
Very true Hotoke, it is something I would have to witness with my owns eyes, my curiousity will keep my mind open, but I most likely will never believe until I see an alien with my own eyes.
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...and if you saw one, would you believe its an alien?

(the devil could hide on the cloth of an angel)
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(Whom_God_Loves @ Nov 19 2004, 06:10 PM)
QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Nov 19 2004, 07:02 PM)
QUOTE(Whom_God_Loves @ Nov 19 2004, 05:50 PM)
Don't try to spin and deflect the subject, I asked about aliens here
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I'm not, I just find it interesting that you are asking for real facts, real photos, real proof of aliens, but God is exactly the same. There are no real facts, not one has actually seen him, so the question is why is believing in God different than believing in aliens?

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Because I believe God exists from personal experiences

And I believe aliens exist from person experiences. Is this proof?
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It is proof enough for me, I have not had an experience with aliens so I fail to believe, just as if we swaped stories, neither of us would believe each other.
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Its like me saying, "I have not had an experience with a Dingo, so I fail to believe they exist."
Whom_God_Loves
To be fair and somewhat open minded it is fair to say, God might have left alot of things unsaid when speaking to Moses, what would be the point of informing Moses of Aliens,Dinosaurs ect.........

Not saying I believe in the Alien thing, but I guess it could be possible?!?
ninj
Hey whom god loves, No matter what odds you give from 1-10 or 1-1000000 there is so much out there and its so big that there is less of a chance we are alone. Just think there are more stars(sun's) planets solar systems ect. that we cant even know the true number of object's out there. Anything born in the early part of the birth of the universe would be so much more advanced then use and would seem alien to use. I believe we are not alone and have never been alone both physically or spiritally.
Sigmund Fraud
I believe this open mindedness is what we were actually looking for.
Xenojjin
what makes you think god would make a universe and only place life on one planet ? Real proof of aliens really just comes from the probability of it all . We have probobly explored not even 1/100000th of the universe and we already see places that can at least harbor life and others ( like Titan ) that may already be doing so . The fact we exist at least proves it possible , and the numbers prove it highly likely .
Asterix
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Because the 2 ideas don't mix. Are you religious? If you study it, the idea of aliens goes against religious ideals


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what makes you think god would make a universe and only place life on one planet ?


Isn't it funny how you can get mixed up with all this? Actually, if you think about it, if you consider the matter having in mind Divine Logic, then the existence of God should be a proof for alien existance. Coz, like it was mentioned, why would God make a universe and only place life on one planet. Our logic, detaching it for a moment from Divine Logic, claims the same: that life has to exist in more places in this enormous cosmos.
Yet, strictly out of a scientific point of view, leaving aside any gut feelings, theological or otherwise philosophical inputs, it is quite possible in a scientifically theoretical base, that we are all alone, or at least we're the only intelligent beings...
Considering all the conditions required to create life,
Considering that Universe is an unbelievably hostile place,
Considering the short lifespan an intelligent civilization has,
It might be so that, leaving aside any Divine Interventions, we're all alone...
jacob
I say anyone who does not belive in alien isn't thinking. Our galaxy alone contains billions of stars multiplie that by the infinite reaches of the univers there almost has to be an alien race somewhere out there. Even if they aren't coming to earth they are still there.
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