blazer2004
Nov 20 2004, 08:25 PM
my friend has seen images in his head of nero the antichrist he is a 7 headed dragon he is talked about in the book of revelation from what i know he is the red dragon named in the bible also he might be here in 2006 my friend has been talking to alota his dead relatives about this they said it could be true ill keep ya updated and please dont bash this topic im not trying to start a fight all i want is no wars on this topic ok??? peace out
Fluffybunny
Nov 20 2004, 08:36 PM
I don't even know where to start on this one...
I'll just take the first few words of that very long sentence...
Your friend sees things in his head? Like visions? hallucinations? his imagination? Dreams? daydreams? Evil thoughts?
Why are your friends thoughts qualified to make you so concerned? Has this friend had good luck in predicting things in the past?
Mrs.Kahalioumi
Nov 20 2004, 08:40 PM
Does your friend have a history of visions? Has he spoken to people in a church, or who are in church authority? What did he say? Did he actually get a date of 2006? Or just in the near future?
blazer2004
Nov 20 2004, 08:41 PM
he has visions he has learnd alot and read alot about stuff he is a pure christain i dont think he would lie to me he even says he can see ghosts and stuff also
Heart of Osiris
Nov 20 2004, 08:52 PM
Nero was one of several named (or should I say thought to be) antichrists, here tid bit information from Wikipedia:
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Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus (December 15, 37 AD - June 9, 68 AD), born Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus, was the fifth and last Roman Emperor of the Julio-Claudian dynasty. On February 25, 50 he became heir to the current Roman Emperor, his grand-uncle and adoptive father Claudius, as Nero Claudius Caesar Drusus. He succeeded to the throne on October 13, 54. In 66 he added the prefix Imperator to his name. In 68 Nero was deposed. His death was reportedly the result of suicide assisted by his scribe Epaphroditos (Greek for "lovely" and "charming").
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Many people, or even nations or movements, have been thought by some to be the Antichrist. The age of Israel in relation to the references in both Eziekiel and Daniel would place the appearance of the anti-christ to be sometime in the next 10 years because a generation in Jewish tradition was a period of forty years. Israel starting in 1967 would therefore place the arrival of the anti-christ before 2007.
Paul of Tarsus has been theorized by some (among them Thomas Jefferson, Albert Schweitzer, George Bernard Shaw, Carl Sagan and Carl Jung) to have fulfilled the role of the antichrist within the chronicles of the New Testament of the Bible itself. This theory is premised on an idea common among some scholars of religion, that the original teachings of Christ were subverted by Paul, who some characterize as a Jewish spy and false convert.
The Roman emperor beginning with Nero, sometimes together with the four emperors who succeeded him in the year following his suicide, until the elevation of Nero's general Vespasian to emperor, have been interpreted from very early times, either alone or collectively as the Beast of the Apocalypse.
In this tumultuous period, superstitious fear and mob violence grew against Christians, and the Roman wars against the Jews intensified (AD 66 - 70), ending with the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 under the command of general Titus (later emperor), and the maniacal slaughter of the Jews who were living at Jerusalem. According to tradition, Nero ordered the crucifixion of St. Peter and the beheading of St. Paul. Both Jewish and Christian literature survives, referring to Emperor Nero as the Antichrist. A more detailed description of this interpretation can be found in the entry on the Book of Revelation.
Another idea that began appearing early in the history of the Christian church, is the opinion that the Antichrist will be an apostate priest or Christian secular ruler, perhaps a Pope or other high leader of the Christian church, or a pretender to the Papacy. Some Christian sects have made it an issue of faith to identify the Bishop of Rome and the papal system as the Antichrist. Virtually all popes have been called the Antichrist by their enemies, and many popes have applied this title of "Antichrist", "son of perdition", or "man of sin", to their enemies as well. Even St. Peter, the first Pope according to Roman Catholic tradition, was called "Satan" by Jesus according to the Gospel of Matthew chapter 16, the same chapter of the gospel in which Peter is told by Jesus, "on this rock [Greek: petra] I will build my church".
St. Bellarmine gives in full the theory set forth by the Greek and Latin Fathers, of a personal Antichrist to come just before the end of the world and to be accepted by the Jews and enthroned in the temple at Jerusalem -- thus endeavoring to dispose of the Protestant exposition which saw Antichrist in the pope. Bellarmine's interpretation, in modified form, is now accepted by most premillennial dispensationalists.
After the reforms of Patriarch Nikon to the Russian Orthodox Church of 1652 a large number of Old Believers held that Peter the Great was the antichrist.
Identifying the Antichrist has become a hobby of the Internet age, and a body of literature in its own right.
Has your friend just recently studied Revelation? I know of a few people that have studied the book and it was enough to send them into visions and nightmares. I am not saying he "didn't" see some sort of vision - but studying the material might have been the catalyst.
What I am interested in is the fact that he sees spirits, and perhaps talks to them. When did this start? Do you know?
Also, does he think Nero will come back in 2006? Or that another antichrist will be named.
blazer2004
Nov 20 2004, 09:01 PM
hes seen ghosts for 5 years straight alota activity going on for some reason he is sure it is nero ive asked him over and over and yes he said he is comeing in 2005 or 2006 and yes he talks to his dead relatives
Fluffybunny
Nov 20 2004, 09:02 PM
What do ghosts have to do with Nero?
blazer2004
Nov 20 2004, 09:04 PM
What I am interested in is the fact that he sees spirits, and perhaps talks to them. When did this start? Do you know?
hearts of osiris asked sorry
Stellar
Nov 20 2004, 09:09 PM
Id like to know why we're supposed to trust him more than the guy who claims god told him to go on a murderous rampage...
blazer2004
Nov 20 2004, 09:10 PM
we have to trust him he has never lied to me as long as ive known him he would not make this stuff up
Heart of Osiris
Nov 20 2004, 09:21 PM
Well - I am unsure the connection between talking to spirits and the antichrist - considering I don't believe in the antichrist. I am most interested in the spirit side.
I don't know what to make of him thinking he has spoken to the antichrist, to be honest. The only thing I can think of it that he's having a reaction from reading Revelation.
I am not exactly sure if I believe he is talking to ghosts - but being on a few Paranormal investigations and talking with a few people - it seems like a lot of folks believe this is possible. I am just interested more in how he claims to speak to dead family members... if you have any additional info that is.
Stellar
Nov 20 2004, 09:25 PM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 20 2004, 09:10 PM)
we have to trust him he has never lied to me as long as ive known him he would not make this stuff up
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I never said he was making anything up...
blazer2004
Nov 20 2004, 10:04 PM
man i dont like this at all this wont be good its gona get ugly
crosswarrior
Nov 20 2004, 11:33 PM
and you found this in what? 11:17? or was it 6:66? IDONTKNOWWHATBOOKIFYOUWERECHRISTIANYOUWOULDKNOWYOUAREEVIL
There you should be able to understand that.
And as for things getting ugly...They probably wouldn't get that way if you had a coherent arguement.
blazer2004
Nov 20 2004, 11:51 PM
whatever cross stop acting like you know what your talking about
Stellar
Nov 21 2004, 02:54 AM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 20 2004, 11:51 PM)
whatever cross stop acting like you know what your talking about
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Yeah well, least when he posts, it looks like he knows what he's talking about... with you, its the opposite.
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 03:26 AM
how do you know that i dont know what im talking about
Stellar
Nov 21 2004, 04:40 AM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 21 2004, 03:26 AM)
how do you know that i dont know what im talking about
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How do you know that cross doesnt know what he's talking about?
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 05:00 AM
because i know hes saying that im evil cause im a christain
crosswarrior
Nov 21 2004, 05:10 AM
Alright I was going to let you go but this is ridiculas. If you can read the 700 some post I have left on this forum, and get any inkling of an idea that I am an enemy of the Christian faith; then you seriously failed in your reading and english class. Along with having a serious faliure to logically think out arguements. As for being against you.... I am against anyone who makes preposterous statements, and then launches into childlike triades when he no longer has any substance or logic to back them up.
crosswarrior
Nov 21 2004, 05:13 AM
As my daddy always said; "Don't get into a fight unless you expect to get hit.
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 05:32 AM
well thats fine with me cross i dont care what you think theres a proven fact that there is life after death and jesus is waiting for us
Heart of Osiris
Nov 21 2004, 06:29 AM
Not to get involved, but just curious....
What is the "proven fact" you speak of, Blazer?
And please don't use the Bible... that is not proof of any God, Jesus, or life after death. I might be jumping the gun here, but I am quite used to people saying the Bible is proof... when obviously it's not. It's all faith based. I mean no disrespect - but I don't know of any "fact" supporting any deity - much less that there is life beyond death. So, if you know something I don't, I am most interested in knowing as well.
We all have our faith, I have my beliefs... but I dare not say intellectually my faith is "fact".
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 08:14 AM
i dont wana talk about it right now ill talk about it later on
Hotoke
Nov 21 2004, 10:05 AM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 21 2004, 10:02 AM)
well thats fine with me cross i dont care what you think theres a proven fact that there is life after death and jesus is waiting for us
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no you are wrong. it is a proven fact that we will reincarnate
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 03:58 PM
there is no such thing as a proven fact of reincarnaten there has never been
Frosty
Nov 21 2004, 04:03 PM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 21 2004, 09:58 AM)
there is no such thing as a proven fact of reincarnaten there has never been
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Nor of an afterlife.
Why is Nero the anti-christ? Why not Ceasar or Augustus II or Caligula? Me thinks it's all in the name. Augustus just doesn't sound as dark as NERO!
Hotoke
Nov 21 2004, 04:03 PM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 21 2004, 08:28 PM)
there is no such thing as a proven fact of reincarnaten there has never been
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i dont wana talk about it right now ill talk about it later on
play the game the blazer 2004 way
Firien
Nov 21 2004, 07:38 PM
what a funny thread..lol.
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 08:18 PM
rofl ok frost go do some research on evp and astral projection and obe then get back to me
SilverCougar
Nov 21 2004, 08:28 PM
Blazer continues to astound me....
There are many forms of afterlives.... what gives anyone the right to say one's wrong over another?
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 09:05 PM
hey man i asked no fighting on this topic but no 1 wanted to listen except stellar if people are gona act like a butthole towards me i can be the same way
Stellar
Nov 21 2004, 09:35 PM
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rofl ok frost go do some research on evp and astral projection and obe then get back to me
Lol, this braught back memories of blazer arguing about Planet X, and to support his claim of Planet X being real, he gave us a bunch of links that actually say Planet X isnt real.
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 09:57 PM
planet x is real its just the skeptics keep saying its not real cause they scared to take a big blow there is a 10th planet in our solar system its true
crosswarrior
Nov 21 2004, 10:09 PM
Now tell me blazer; what is the proof you have that there really is such thing as an afterlife. I am not talking the Bible, because that will not work on a factual level. We need some type of scientifically documented proof. Which I doubt you will be able to find, as seeing that the afterlife is beyond the realm of science and fact.
SilverCougar
Nov 21 2004, 10:10 PM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 21 2004, 09:05 PM)
hey man i asked no fighting on this topic but no 1 wanted to listen except stellar if people are gona act like a butthole towards me i can be the same way
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Only one here being defensive is you.
Now, answer my question, please.
Hotoke
Nov 21 2004, 10:11 PM
you are so gullible blazer2004. not everything you read is true not everything on the net is true.
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 10:16 PM
who said i read most stuff on the net
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 10:26 PM
i know im right not cause i say i am i just go by the facts there are things that scientists cant explain something goes on after we die
crosswarrior
Nov 21 2004, 10:29 PM
I am not talking about things that are not explained; I am talking of that which is even impossible to observe.
And if there is no reincarnation how is Nero going to come back? I thought he's been dead for 2000 years. Or should I load up on the silver and Holy water?
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 10:42 PM
nero never died hes still alive how els would the antichrist come
crosswarrior
Nov 21 2004, 10:51 PM
Ok..... So we have an evil person whose 2000 years old; and who is going to take over the world. Ja, I see. We will need silver bullets in great quantities. We shall alert the Vactican and proceed with the destruction of the evil menace. We will go forth and destroy him and his wicked followers. (while were at it we might as well take out Osama and the WMD's as seeing we'll probably find them in the same place)
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 10:57 PM
lol cross im telling the truth man
Stellar
Nov 21 2004, 11:16 PM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 21 2004, 10:57 PM)
lol cross im telling the truth man
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Youre telling us what you *think* is the truth. Theres a difference.
blazer2004
Nov 21 2004, 11:27 PM
no these are FACTS not lies
Frosty
Nov 21 2004, 11:40 PM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 21 2004, 03:57 PM)
planet x is real its just the skeptics keep saying its not real cause they scared to take a big blow there is a 10th planet in our solar system its true
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There may be no Planet X but Kuiper objects exist, whether they can be identified as planets by main stream scientifica America remains to be seen.
SilverCougar
Nov 22 2004, 12:13 AM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 21 2004, 11:27 PM)
no these are FACTS not lies
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Can you prove they are facts without posting propaganda sties?
blazer2004
Nov 22 2004, 12:46 AM
if boks count yes hehe
Stellar
Nov 22 2004, 12:50 AM
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Nov 21 2004, 11:27 PM)
no these are FACTS not lies
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No, they're not facts, they're opinions and ideas.
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There may be no Planet X but Kuiper objects exist, whether they can be identified as planets by main stream scientifica America remains to be seen.
Lol, you dont know what you missed... Blazer here showed us a series of 3 pictures with a green lense flare... the pictures were taken over the span of 15 minutes (1 pic every 5 minutes)... he claimed that the green lense flare (about the same size as the sun IIRC) was planet X... first picture had it on the left of the sun, second had it on the right, and last on the left again... pretty erratic orbit huh?
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if boks count yes hehe
First, clarify plz... what is a "bok"?
Second of all, the contents of a book must be verifiable do be considered creditable... You cant take a book like the Bible and say its more credible than the Koran...
blazer2004
Nov 22 2004, 01:22 AM
sorry if i spelled a word wrong dont have a cow now umm this has gone way off topic hehe
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