I love a good ghost story. But what's even better than hearing about a good ghost story is being able to investigate one.

My wife, Ghost in the Darkness, raises and sells mini-rex rabbits. Two of her friends who also raise rabbits live in the town of Athens, TX. Several months ago she was doing some research on the 'net about Athens and she came across this forum discussion.

So of course, when I learned that we were going to be spending the day in Athens on July 4th I just had to go see the legendary haunted Fuller Park! Oh Yeah!

We had gone to Athens to pick up some rabbits and once that meeting was over we drove over to Gibson Road and quickly located the entrance to Fuller Park. The park is surrounded by an ancient crumbling stone fence. Upon arrival we found the entrance and stopped just outside the open gate. Ghost was on the phone at the time talking to one of her friends so I jumped out and headed on in.

The driveway into the park is not paved and the narrow dirt two-track continues on into the property, slowly meandering through the undergrowth. Being July in East Texas, not only was it damn hot, but it was muggy as hell to boot. I walked down the path for several yards just observing the woods around me and listening to the singing of inumerable birds and insects. After traveling several yards (Sorry, I'm not very good at judging distance, but it really didn't seem all that far.) I came to the cemetary on the right side of the path.

The cemetary contains only two graves, those of the late Mister and Misses Fuller. The undergrowth was heavy and poison ivy was abundant, so I didn't venture far enough off the main path to walk all the way around the small graveyard. I did however, pay close attention to the massive chain surrounding the graves and barring entry to the outside world. Oddly enough, there's no gate, the chain continues all the way around the cemetary. Remembering the claim by a previous visitor, I grabbed the chain to see if it was indeed, ice cold. Not surprising, though disappointing, it wasn't. Oh well. Not being one to forgo an opportunity when ghostly graveyards are involved, I stepped under the heavy chain and into the graveyard itelf. After getting a closer look at the graves, I stepped back under the chain and walked back to the car.

When I arrived back at the car I told Ghost (who was still on the phone ) that I had found the cemetary. She asked if I had taken any pictures. "No" I replied, "I didn't take the camera with me."

"Well get the camera and go back and take some pictures" she said.

Yes! So I grabbed the camera and headed back down to the cemetary. You can see the pictures if you like, they're located in the my pictures section on my 360 page. Which, if this works, can be found here: http://360.yahoo.com/profile-s57XL4o9dKgkyXX.eqPk87STDzwU

Since I had the camera I decided to walk on in a little further and see if I could locate the dreaded monkey cage. After walking down the track a little further I noticed a narrow, heavily overgrown trail leading off into the woods to the right. Looking off into the trees, I noticed a large, rust colored structure. I headed down the small trail and soon discovored that the rusty structure was in fact the ancient tin roof of the monkey cage.

As if the undergrowth wasn't bad enough, sometime in the past a large tree had fallen down in front of the monkey cage, barring the path. The remains of the tree looked as if this event had happened a few years ago. Undaunted, I worked my way around and over the fallen tree.

The door of the monkey was open, so of course I walked in. The interior has a high ceiling and a dirt floor. There is one central pillar holding up the roof structure and I noticed that the top of this pillar is sculpted in a neat, antique jungle pattern.

As I walked around the inside of the structure I found a lot of grafitti, an old burnt log with a broken beer bottle on top, a piece of rusty tin, a few other bits of litter here and there, and various words and symbols scratched in the dirt floor. Some of these latter appeared to have been done fairly recently. I didn't really care about what the scratchings had to say, and being short on time I didn't bother to take the time to read them. I did notice however, that the one symbol I saw clearly was a Star of David. Curious. I would have expected a pentagram, considering the stories of would be Satanists.

I took a few pictures of both the outside and inside of the monkey cage. They are located in the same file as the cemetary pics mentioned earlier.

I walked out of the monkey cage and made my way back down the trail and out to the main drive way. From there I followed the path further into the property until it came to an end where it intersected another narrow drive, this one being well grassed over.

Since Ghost and the kids were waiting for me back at the car, I decided that I had seen enough for this trip and made my way back up the drive way and out the main gate.

Admittedly, I was a little disappointed at not having any spooky encounters or finding anything weird, unexplainable, or down right creepy. But, in the end, I'm glad to have had the opportunity to explore this local urban legend and I hope to return one day for a longer, unhurried investigation. Preferably at night.

Another UM classic thread, great stuff, i'm hooked.
Sounds like a really spooky place, full credit to all who visit.
Strange how Mr Fuller is not mentioned in many documents being a man of the church and all, thought he would have been a prominent figure in the community.

Cheers Jester

Sorry have to bump this, would love to hear more on it

Cheers Jester

Hello, I have been living in athens for 19 years now. I have been to fullers park probably 10-20 times. I have been at night and been in the day. I don't know what kind of drugs you guys are on. Probably LSD or Ecstasy. I have never seen anything. I try to but it just doesn't happen. The only thing that might be there is devil worshippers and I could believe that. It also may have been haunted in the past but it is fairly cleared out now and nothing ever happens. I've took video and pictures and they all turned out fine. I've heard all the stories, even from good friends, but I don't believe them. I honestly think that everyone who ever sees things is just really really messed up and trying too hard to see things. It's fun the first time for the scare, but after you do it once it's nothing. Sorry to be so negative, but I just think it's all a bunch of bs. Later

Let me just start by saying I in no way believe in ghosts, spirits of dead people that haunt the earth or just hang around and do not believe in aliens or anything of the sort.

I went to fuller park 13 years or so ago and let me tell you, something is wrong with that place. I do believe that satanism is very real and it is the one thing that truely scares me. That may have influenced my feelings when I was at fuller park. We went out there one night with my friends cousins (who we went to athens to visit) and they told us the story of the graves that we came up on for mr and mrs fuller. Just so you know those graves are much more ominous in person when its pitch black out and you come up on them all of a sudden. I did not believe the story about mr fuller breaking the concrete slab over his grave but you can tell by the layers on concrete it had been fixed a few times. Then we went further down the path and let me tell you you couldnt see your hand in front of your face without a flashlight. We came up on the monkey cage and that thing looked like something straight out of a horror movie. It was a big square cage like the size of a small house with branches and stuff all stuck in it and it is surrounded by trees. There is an opening in the front of the cage where a door probably was. My friends walked inside. I did not want to go in because I was scared to death. The reason I was scared is that I could feel evil around me. Again, I do not believe in ghosts but I firmly believe demons were all around me. I went into the cage so i wasnt by myself and it was worse inside. There were upside down crosses hanging from the top of the cage made of sticks and there was blood everywhere and 666 and pentagrams painted on everything. I was so scared I was cold and this was in the middle of a texas summer. I dont know what but something is wrong in fuller park and if you people decide to go do not go at night. Trust me.

why during these visits, does no one bring a camera, for goodness sake?!!

I didnt know i was going. I would like to have pics though. Since joining I have thought about going back but during the day only. Then again I dont ever want to have that feeling again so I doubt I will. I only live like an hour and a half away. I didnt see any orbs, lights or anything like that. Mine was just a feeling that evil was all around me. Not good.

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Time For An Athens, Texas/Fuller Park Update:

I can't believe some of the things you people either do or don't believe in. Let me tell you all some things right now. As a former student of the Old Henderson County Junior College (It will always be that too me), and also a relative of someone that lives in Athens (Anybody Know The Mills Family?) I can tell you about some of the truly weird & unusual things in and around Athens, Texas

FULLER PARK:

Fuller Park was originally built by The Now Deceased Reverend & Mrs. Fuller as an Animal Refuge Center & Zoo. it did in fact have a Monkey Cage filled with all sorts of Monkey's & other animals were there as well. From what I understand, the Fullers did in fact live on the property as well.

The Reverend & Mrs. Fuller are in fact buried there on the grounds, just inside the Front Gate. Funny thing about that though, the Monster Bar Fence around The Graves is new, The Evil Looking Posts have always been there with the Giant Chains, but not those cross bars in the pictures.

Anyway, back in the Early 80's, I went to school over at the college & I was a frequent visitor of Fuller Park. I liked the place. I Felt comfortable there. Guess that's why I laugh so much when ever a new Horror Flick comes out.

One night in October, ironically on a Friday The 13th, a bunch of us College Kids had gone to one of the Early Friday 13th/Jason Voorhees Movies & afterwards we all decided to go to Fuller Park for a Fright Fest.

Myself & about 3 other guys were the first to arrive & just as we entered the park & were walking past The Fuller's Graves, Mrs. Fullers Head Stone just fell over all by itself.

Needless to say, we all just about either sh** or pissed in our pants.

I personally walked over and picked her headstone back up and put it back in its rightful place where it belongs.

I can't help but notice now in all the pictures that I see, that her headstone is now laying on its side again.

Strange, Very Strange.

One time we went out there in the daytime, and we found Completely Full, Unopened Coors Beer Cans buried in the dirt in the Monkey Cages from like 1974.

I personally have in fact heard the Monkey Cages Rattle & The Monkey's Screaming on a Clear Quiet Night when the Moon has been full.

I have been back there a few times and fully intend on returning in the near future.

A Local Radio Station here in Dallas is thinking about making a trip out there this Friday, October 27th, 2006 just to see what all the hub-bub is about.

Either that (or) they are going to stay in Dallas & visit the Old Haunted Parkland Hospital where it used to be beside the Scottish Rite Hospital.

My Vote is for Fuller Park.

The "Brick" Fence surrounding Fuller Park is not made of Bricks. The Fence was built using Virgin Rock.

ATHENS, TEXAS:

(1) Anybody ever visit Blood Bridge just past & up the road from Fuller Park? It's just an Old Wooden Bridge that was purportedly known to Drip with Blood after something was killed there (Probably The Escaped Monkeys) many years ago.

(2) Just past Blood Bridge & to the Left of it in an Empty Field there is this Old Broken Down Shack, known only as "The House of Blood", where if you go inside it, into the Bathroom, you will see a Very Old Cast Iron Bathtub filled with Blood Stains from years past.

(3) On the main road just past The College on the right if memory serves is the "Half Moon Pool". Now this place is truly special and totally haunted. The Half Moon Pool was the site where a little boy was killed a very long, long time ago, and ever since that day, the pool will not hold water.

If you were to go out there and fill the pool with water, the next day, the water would be gone.

There is not a drain hole, there are no holes in the pool nor are there any cracks in the pool. The Pool refuses to hold water.

Oh Yeah, The Border around The Half Moon Pool?.....Virgin Rock

(4) On The Main Road Past The College on The Left just past The Half Moon Pool a ways, there is this House, Built out of Bricks & Virgin Rocks & in the Front Yard there is a Flower Bed built out of Virgin Rock.

The Flower Bed is in the shape of a Pentagram with a Circle around it.

According To The Legend, (Something I Have Actually Seen Once), every year, the Congregation of The First Baptist Church of Athens, Texas (The Very Same Church that has no record of Reverend Fuller ever being their Pastor), goes to this house and they plant flowers in this Pentagram Flower Bed, and they proceed to water them, and they keep the area Fertilized & they come back every once in a while to tend to the grounds and their seeds and water & Continue to Fertilize the area.

The Flowers Never Grow.....EVER..........

(5) One last thing, just behind the College, behind the Last Dorm in the left corner, there is a creek, that if you cross it, it will lead to what I have always believed to be as The Country Club.

Well, in the corner as you cross over the creek, there is this Barbecue Pit with a Picnic Table & Benches built in front of it. The Pit, The Table & The Benches are all built out of Virgin Rock.

Funny thing about those benches and that picnic table is, that you can't sit on the benches and get your knees underneath the Table.

WHY is that you might be asking yourself?

It's not a Picnic Table & They are not Benches to sit on.

They are Benches to Kneel on & The Table was not made for eating on, it was made to Sacrifice Virgins & other things on.

The Barbecue Pit is actually a Sacrificial Oven as well.

I personally don't know about the Tunnels, or The Pentagram inside the Loop around Athens, but i do know that Athens once was a Thriving Community of Satan Worshippers.

Oh Yeah, and up Highway 64 (or) 19, I can't remember the exact number of the road itself, but just on the egde of Edgewood, Texas, you REALLY Believe that The Ponderosa is a Nudist Colony?

I am a lifelong resident of Athens, Texas, which is in East or Northeast Texas depending on your point of view, and yes, our little town does have a large number of reported instances of hauntings, rituals and general bump in the night stories.

Athens has been featured on 20/20 as well as on various news reports throughout the years. The monkey cages mentioned in the report on Mr. Fuller, who was a Baptist preacher (I believe Central Baptist Church, just off the main square), were used to house various monkeys and apes that had escaped from a circus train that had gone off the tracks, which are down in a ravine which runs around the bottom of the hill over which Monkey Road (named for obvious reasons) is laid. I have never heard of Mr. Fuller ever abusing any animals of any kind, let alone monkeys, though the property he owned which is named Fuller Park, has indeed been the spot of many rituals and magic rites, mostly by drunken high school and college kids, who were just playing around to give themselves a scare.

However there are a lot of self claimed witches and warlocks in the area, but the only confirmed rituals that I know about involve the cemetary that is between Shady Oaks and Cross Roads. Every year during whatever holidays that these type of people celebrate, they find the carcasses of decapitated animals of various sizes, the largest being goats, upon the grave of one of the said warlocks.

For its size, Henderson County, Texas has more private airports per capita than any other place in the country, according to 20/20, which from the air do look like a pentagram. It is also true about tunnels running under Athens, though I can't confirm that they are in the shape of pentagram. The most unusual thing about these tunnels that got the stories going are that they connect up and come out at the boathouse at the Athens Country Club, supposedly for the use of all the well to do witches, etc.

There are also various and too numerous to go into, stories of ghosts, black magic, white magic etc, concerning our little town, some true and some not, which are'nt so easy to dismiss when the night is particularly dark and the wind is howling around your home.

I don't know any witches or warlocks personally and if I do they aren't telling.

Thanks for reading,

Vhatsdis

The Mills? Do they live on County Road 1201?

Well, I've lived in Athens all my life too. I went to school at Cross Roads, just graduated this past year. I plan on going to Fullers Park for my first time when my sister and brother-in-law come down for Thanksgiving this year. I'm excited.

My grandmother on my mom's side is actually a wiccan (she lives in San Antonio now though). I've heard of several witches living in or around the Athens area.

Haven't heard of some of the places that some of you people talked about. I know about Thunder Bridge, but it only has that name because of how loud it is when you drive across it.

I'm not so sure about all the animal sacrifices between Shady Oaks and Cross Roads.... I actually live right down the road from Becks Chapel. I live in walking distance from Willow Springs cemetary if anyone knows where that is. I've never even heard of there being any animal sacrifices. Me and my friend and sister always hung out at the cemetary.

I dunno... I hope that we find something interesting when we go to Fullers Park. I don't believe in ghosts per se, but I do believe in angels and demons and the spiritual world.

You have to remember than Henderson County is known for being one of the biggest meth producers... maybe that contributed to some of the stories? Hehe either way, it's fun to hear them and to go out and see for yourself. What else is there to do if you live near Cross Roads? [Cow tipping and pasture parties ]

My experience (see previous posts) was not like others I guess. I did not see any orbs, flashes of light, here any monkies or see any grave stones tip over. I just had a feeling that evil was all around me. I mean demons when I say evil. I think they are there in fuller park because some people either worship satan or have something else to do with him and they do it there as well as other places.

I went there about 13 or 14 years ago now (cant remember if i was 16 or 17) and I was sitting at my job doing ot on a Saturday thinking about this place. I didnt remember what it was called but I did a search for "satanism athens texas" and found this website and joined to tell my story of fuller park. To remember how I felt almost 14 years later and to still be thinking about it to this day should tell you how freaked out I was. My belief that it was evil is backed up in my mind by the stone table behind the country club. The blackened bottum of that table suggests to me that something besides tennis lessons goes on there.

I'll be visiting Athens, Texas w/My Girlfriend this Sunday, November 12th, 2006 & we will be visiting The Fuller's @ Fuller Park. I plan on taking some pictures and seeing if I can pick anything up on a recording as well.

Guess I'll be sharing my little adventure with you people IF & When I return.

I grew up in Tool, TX, and went to school at Malakoff ISD (from K-12). I've always heard people talk about the strange things that use to go on in Athens. I took my Canon XL2 out to Fuller Park last Sat. 11/11/06 to get some footage to analyze on my PC. While we were there I noticed a few candles that had been placed on the Fuller graves, and burned at both ends (one green, the other red) I'm not sure of there significance but either way, it was a little creepy.
We went to the Monkey cage, and I must say... who ever "Allie" is, I want you to know that you suck. "Allie" was so excited about her High School status that she HAD to let everyone know by spray painting "Allie Senior '09" ALL OVER the damn place. Also, some idiot spray-painted a Star of David with a circle around it; Obviously an uneducated attempt at creating a pentagram. "silly rednecks..."

Anyway, while I was there I was inspired by the ominous feeling that I had about Fuller Park, and the rumors about the dark history that surrounds Athens, TX. I along with a team of similarly inspired friends will be creating a documentary. I plan on providing an UN-BIAS documentary backed up with actual research, interviews, and SOLID evidence regarding the strange rumors, and witchcraft that have surrounded Athens, TX for decades. If anyone is willing to be interviewed, share personal encounters \ stories, or provide me with leads, please contact me via email (justinamosley@yahoo.com). I will keep your personal information "personal" if you require me to do so. Also, anyone that’s willing to help in ANY way will be greatly appreciated!

P.S. this is FOR REAL and we will not stop until ALL questions have been answered.

Justin

How weird Justin, as My Girlfriend & I were just out there doing the same exact thing on Sunday The 12th, in addition to seeking out the other strange places in Athens that I know about from my college days.

I would appreciate it if you would place your information on this Forum/Website I have created, as I intend on doing the very same thing that you are planning on doing.

Here is the link if you would like to take a look.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/533567/

In any event, perhaps together, you & I can finally find out the truth.

Did you see where "Allie" also wrote that she was there in the dirt?

I took about 40+ Pictures that day & will try to post them on my site by Wednesday or Thursday.

That sounds like a plan! We can learn WAY more by working together!

( Allie SUCKS! If you wanna spray-paint something on the wall.. Make sure you have something to SAY first! "Senior '09" is a mindless default! People like "Allie" should quit breeding! "Rediculous....")

On Dec. 2nd-3rd I'll be in Athens doing some research. Also, I'm scouting locations for a short Film.

Awsesome site! I'll Def. set up an account!

Justin

Hey guys... Wow ... i have not been on here in a long time.... i didnt think so many people were interested in Athens and all its wonders. Well if anyone is going to be going out there anytime soon let me know i would like to go with you. Maybe we can share some stories.... I have not been out to Fuller's in awhile since i am now living in
Tyler attending college. I also know a great deal about the ares in Cross Roads (10 miles out of Athens) I went to school there for about 6 years and i have been to all the spooky sites out there. You can get ahold of me via MSN planetbobb21@hotmail.com, YAHOO planetbobb212000@yahoo.com. I have both messengers on all the time. Well good luck with all your ghost hunting and let me know if I can be of any help.

All that needs to be said really is that Athens is in East Texas...

...I mean really...East Texas...

I think I read that story - is that where they stone that woman????

Agreed re small towns and if everyone is in on it... most intriguing!

Would also like to see photos/hear more if these witchcraft tunnels turn out to be real.....

Hey Bob! I am going out to Athens on Dec. 30th to continue the documentary! The film crew and I will be out there from 9AM till around 4PM. If your interested your more than welcome to come along. If anyone here wants to help out in any way whether it be telling your personal stories, sharing information, or doing your own investigation work and working together to tell the story of the twisted side of Athens, TX you are MORE than welcome.... it's going to take allot of people working together to crack this story.

I want to personally thank odin1964 for all the information and personal research he has shared with us, he has really helped step up the investigation.

if anyone wants to contact me about ANYTHING my email is justinamosley@yahoo.com

Justin

Watch out for the bobwar.

Wow, sounds like an interesting place for sure. I'd like to visit it someday. I live in Laredo Texas which is about 8 hrs from Dallas and then I guess another hour and a half from Athens. I'd love to go to the park someday. I'll try and visit in the Spring/or Summer in 07.

*rolls eyes * please study up on wicca and the craft before posting such crap... no offence but its retarded that someone even posted it wiccans DONT believe in the devil so therefore if there was there would be no harm plus in our law ( the rede and creed ) it says HARM NON which means NO SACRIFICIES i will contenue to post ( yea my spelling sucks) the creed the rede and the pyramid


This is the Creed

Hear now the words of the witches,
The secrets we hid in the night,
When dark was our destiny's pathway,
That now we bring forth into light.
Mysterious water and fire,
The earth and the wide-ranging air.
By hidden quintessence we know them,
And will and keep silent and dare.

The birth and rebirth of all nature,
The passing of winter and spring,
We share with the life universal,
Rejoice in the magickal ring.

Four times in the year the Great Sabbat returns
And witches are seen,
At Lammas and Candlemas dancing,
On May Eve and old Hallowe'en.

When day-time and night-time are equal,
When sun is at greatest and least,
The four Lesser Sabbats are summoned,
Again witches gather in feast.

Thirteen silver moons in a year are,
Thirteen is the coven's array,
Thirteen times at esbat make merry,
For each golden year and a day.

The power was passed down the ages
Each time between woman and man,
Each century unto the other,
Ere time and the ages began.

When drawn is the magickal circle,
By sword or athame of power,
It's compass between the two worlds lies,
In Land of the Shades for that hour.

This world has no right then to know it,
And world of beyond will tell naught,
The oldest of Gods are invoked there,
The Great Work of magick is wrought.

For two are the mystical pillars,
That shine at the gate of the shrine,
And two are the powers of nature,
The forms and the forces divine.

The dark and the light in succession,
The opposites each unto each,
Shown forth as a God and a Goddess,
Of this did our ancestors teach.

By night he's the wild wind's rider,
The Horned One, the Lord of the Shades,
By day he's the King of the Woodland,
The dweller in green forest glades.

She is youthful and old as she pleases,
She sails the torn clouds in her barque,
The bright silver Lady of midnight,
The crone who weaves spells in the dark.

The master and mistress of magick,
They dwell in the deeps of the mind,
Immortal and ever-renewing,
With power to free or to bind.

So drink the good wine to the old Gods,
And dance and make love in their praise,
Till Elphame's fair land shall receive us,
In peace at the end of our days.

And Do What You Will be the challenge,
So be it in love that harms none,
For this is the only commandment,
By magick of old be it done!


The Rede

Bide the Wiccan Law ye must,
In perfect love, in perfect trust.
Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfil:
An harm ye none, do what ye will.
What ye send forth comes back to thee,
So ever mind the rule of three.
Follow this with mind and heart,
And merry ye meet, and merry ye part.

Dear customer and friend,
when we make magic, we must always
remember why we are doing it,
what we expect to get from it, and who
is going to be affected by our actions.
This is why the Wiccan Law is so very
important to us. Read it even though you
may not be a witch and remember it.

Enjoy the spells that you weave,
and know that spells are all around us.
To blow out a candle and make a wish at
a birthday party is magic.
To make a wish on a shooting star is magic,
and to blow a dandelion into the air is really bad for
your lawn - but it's also magic.

I believe that there are four elements to making good magic:
will, concentration, good intention, and secrecy.
You must will your magic to work, you must concentrate to the fullest, your intentions must always be good and kept to yourself - talking about what you have done only weakens its power.


The Pyramid

You may have heard of the Four Secrets of the Sphinx, or the Four Powers of the Magus, or maybe the Four Rules of Magick. They are all the same thing, and are referred to as the Foundation of the Witch's Pyramid: To Know, to Dare, to Will, and to Be Silent. When mastered, together they cause the fifth, the point of the Pyramid: To Go. They are sometimes known by their Latin names and correspond to the Elements as well:

To Know-Noscere-Air
To Dare-Audere-Water
To Will-Velle-Fire
To Be Silent-Tacere-Earth
To Go-Ire-Spirit

( once again the pyramid )




To Know, To Will, To Dare and To Keep Silent, make up the four principles to what is known as The Witches' Pyramid. These principals are very important to successful spell working. But what do they actually mean?

1. To Know
Know your correspondences. Research what kind of spell you are going to perform. What the spell requires. Why you need a certain candle color or oil, or why you are using a particular herb. Different Traditions do have different correspondences for color, plants, oils etc. Learn the moon phases and timings The more you learn the more focused your energy will become. Adding to the power of your spell work.

2. To Will
This relates to you. You must have confidence in your spell for it to work. You must believe that magic does work. You need to be focused on what you are doing totally. Your spell needs your energy to work, if you do not provide your spell with the right energy, then your spell may not work, even backfire. Just having the props, without the will, will give you unpredictable results.

3. To Dare
Make a list, before doing the spell on exactly WHY you are doing the spell. Are there mundane ways of reaching your goal. Will the spell actually accomplish what you want. If you have mixed emotions or purpose, than this can compromise your spell working. Know exactly why you are doing the spell. Be very clear in your own mind why you believe a spell will achieve the result you require.

4. To Keep Silent
Once you have performed your spell, you should not mention it or dwell on whether your spell has met it's objective. Let the spell, do its work. Don't waste energy worrying if a spell is going to work. That energy can be better used elsewhere. Don't talk to another about your spell either. This may weaken the strength of the spell if the other person, questions or undermines your ability or whether the spell will work.

These principals may differ from tradition to tradition, but basically what it boils down to, is having the confidence in the power within you. Believing in your magic. Follow the basic principals and your spell work will succeed every time.


so please if it has to do with witchcraft really its most likely false

if the picture your thinking of is this http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/s/05/92/ec/0d_2.JPG Then dont bother thinking its bad. That is a symbol of wicca.

here is another sorce
http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/amethystbt...andmeaning.html

now if it is this ( which is the symbol for BLACK magic and also the satanic religion ) then worry

http://home.earthlink.net/~blue_rabbit5329...ic######Symbol.jpg

http://www.cuttingedge.org/pentegram.JPG

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4065..._symbol_203.jpg

http://www.churchofsatan.com/Graphics/Baph...t/WirthGoat.jpg

Thank you for your ridiculously long post "Dark Bloody Wind Goddess Haruka". Seriously, .... That was a bit uncalled for, don't ya think? ...... Now that we've all been properly "schooled" on the Wiccan "creed, rede and pyramid".... jeez..
Look, Ms. Haruka... I understand the frustration that Wicca’s must have with all us "non wiccan" folks; with us confusing you guys with devil worship and whatnot.... really I do. However, simply stating the obvious is fine......BUT pasting your whole goddamn creed is not cool!!! Make your statement and move on!!!

The guy said pentagram. There is a huge difference between the pentagram and the pentacle, people who know the difference should be SIMPLE!! (I don't mean a 2 page summary of the basics that they will not understand!) in explaining it and not fly off the handle; there's nothing wrong with telling people who don't know the difference, to correct the harmless mistake. And you do realize you just made yourself look like a complete fool to elder pagans/wiccans everywhere right ?? The guy never labeled anything wiccan. Wicca is the religion, there are A LOT of different types of WITCHCRAFT. You can be a Witch and NOT BE WICCAN (amazing isn't it ? ) Learn to read before you start a flame war, and most importantly for your sake, learn what you are preaching/ranting about; here is a good place to start http://www.witchvox.com/qotw/qwp_detail.html?id=2 People like you make it hard for the rest of us who take our religion serious and know how to DEAL! It's the people who "dabble" in the practice that feel special to tell off the whole Creed & Rede to people who could careless to know it.


ON TOPIC... been watching this thread for a year now, never been to fullars park, prolly never will go to fullars park. From all that I gather.. either you get the feeling evil is about to swallow you whole, or you feel nothing at all not particularly the feeling I want drapeing on my shoulders, some weird experiences but those can come a dime a dozen under the right circumstances. Someone keep me posted on the documentary, would Love to see it.

Good News EVERYONE!!! My partner Alan and myself have been working diligently researching the dark history of Athens, TX! We've no doubt broken new ground with our research last weekend! I'll keep you posted, as the fruits of our research reveal more details.

Sub_American Productions
Justin Mosley

MORE AWESOME NEWS!! Sub_American Productions has been asked to discuss part of our Documentary on the "Dan and Tasos Show" on Live 105.3 FM out of Dallas! We'll be on around 9:45PM Saturday Jan. 13th. Allen Reed will be handling PR for Sub_American Productions.

No one seems to have added to this forum in a long time, so interest may have died.

But to me, it's interesting. I lived in Athens a little over 20 years ago, and I was interested in the stories that the locals told us college students. 'even spent a few nights driving around and trespassing to see what I could see. I'll tell you what I saw personally and then what I was told.

I visited Fuller Park and saw the graves inside and the monkey cages that someone else photographed. I don't remember any graffitti, but there might have been some. I remember that Fuller Park gave me the creeps, but I can't prove that they were caused by anything but normal emotions.
I also visited the country club and saw the round concrete disk with a roof over it, next to the swimming pool. (Someone else has taken a photo which you can see at http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/Odi...ctures013.jpg.) And one night friends of mine and I snuck into the lawn of a large house on Hwy 19 (east of the highway, heading south toward Palestine) and saw a large circle with a five-pointed star in it, constructed with what builders there call "natural rock." The thing had flowers planted among the lines of rock, but it was definitely a pentacle in shape.I r

Now, here's what I was told: early in the 20th century a very rich man moved to Athens from Dallas. He'd always wanted a castle on a hill overlooking a lake, so he bought some land and built both castle and lake. The castle later burned, but the cellars remained and the Athens Country Club is built over them. The "lake" (pond actually) and the land around it are part of the golf course.
This guy was supposedly an enthusiastic occultist (whether Satanic or pagan I don't know, but I do appreciate the difference), and he and some of the other local bigwigs formed a secret society which met in the basement of this "castle." The room also contained a sort of torture chamber, and a woman (the country club secretary) who worked then in those rooms claimed there were still bolts on the walls to which people would have been chained. The story goes on that the wife of this transplanted Dallas man disappeared, and that he bragged about killing her, knowing that he'd get away with it because no body would ever be found. The townspeople felt robbed of a trial and just lynched him.
I mentioned the circular patio and the pentacle in the yard above because they were details in the story. Supposedly, five of the prominent members of this society -- the man with the castle included -- had constructed at their homes a pentacle of stone, and if these five pentacles were plotted on a map of Athens and connected, they formed a large pentacle over the entire town. I remember we spent some time studying a map where we'd marked the two we knew of and trying to determine where to find the other three, but we never found any of them.

If anyone is still interested in this subject and lives in Athens, you might want to look up the secretary from the country club whom I mentioned. Her name was McIntyre, and in 1984 she lived on Colonial Drive. I'd heard she was collecting these stories and was planning on writing a book about the "secret society" in Athens, Texas.

Todd Tolbert FACTS. I grew up in Athens, went to High School in the early 80's. First I want to tell you about Todd Tolbert. Todd was my husband's best friend and he was the best man at my wedding. He was also my best friend's casual boyfriend. He was a wonderful guy that loved fast cars, just a little too much. He and my husband at the time were always tinkering with cars and were painting our old Firebird around the time he died. He was a short stocky guy with a rough look. He had pretty wavy blonde hair. The main thing is he was a sweet heart and I actually had two friends that were fighting over his attentions. Todd DID NOT DIE ON HALLOWEEN, THAT IS FALSE. The night Todd died was January 1 just after midnight. We had all been together at a little pool hall bringing in the New Year. We needed more beer and Todd and Will (I have seen posted that Mark was with him but that is false) took the job of going to Caney City to get the beer. He first took my best friend home who had been with him all that night because her mom wanted her home just after midnight, and that probably saved her life. As I said Todd was into fast cars (he did not have a mustang, it was a blue car that was really jacked up high in the back and I believe it was a Vega) and Todd was coming back into Athens on highway 31 when his tie rod broke which caused him to loose control of his car. He was going fast and flew high enough to shear a telephone or electric pole midway. Will was thrown clear and survived but he was really messed up pretty badly. Todd died at the scene. He DID NOT HIT A TREE. His car was resting right at a building on Hwy 31. We heard of the crash immediately and went to the scene which was directly across from what use to be the old Trail Drive In. They had a white sheet over him and he was still in the driver's seat. I kept screaming that the white sheet was a paramedic leaning in to help him. It was an awful night. We were devastated as you can imagine. It fell on my ex husband and I to tell Todd's other best friend Rocky and to tell my best friend that he had just dropped off at home about an hour earlier, that Todd was dead. I remember Rocky just screaming. I admit that after Todd's death we did start hearing a lot of rumors about satanic rituals, but we never heard that Todd was an active part of this and I don't believe for one second that he was. We were too close to him and we would have known. We visited two sites in Athens that have or had very large stone pentagrams. One was at the Country Club and we were told that a few days before Todd's death, that Todd and some of his friends were standing on each point of the pentagram, all except Todd because there was not another point, the points were all taken. And the assumption was that this was going to be bad for Todd in some way. The other stone pentagram was in the front yard of a house but I don't remember where it was now. I remember looking through thick bushes and seeing the exact pentagram that I had seen at the Country Club. There were a lot of rumors going on at that time. I was only 17 and it was in 1982 so I really don't remember all the rumors and really I just dismissed them. The only thing I really heard about rituals was that they were held somewhere out toward Shady Oaks which is just a little housing development going towards Cross Roads. As for Fuller's Park, I have been there on many occasions at night. Teenagers in the area do know of the urban legend and like to go out there at night after drinking to get their nerve up. I never had a supernatural type experience there, but I do remember that it was eerie. The tombstones were turned over and the huge chain was still there. I saw the picture posted at the link and it pretty much looks the same as it did in the early 80's. I left Athens in 1984 and have never lived there again although I do go back to Malakoff because I have family and friends there, but I usually take the loop around Athens. In the early 80's and in just a few years I lost 26 friends from Athens to various accidents and have lost many more in the years after that. Honestly, all of the deaths are the reason I do not want to live in Athens ever again, I felt like, well this may be silly but I felt like Athens was cursed or that we as a group were cursed and that if I didn't leave I might be next. Although, the dead are 99% male and I am female, which probably means nothing except that the males took more risks with drinking and fast cars. I still have good friends that are males that live there and it surprises me even now that they remain alive, I am so glad they are alive. I never could put my finger on the unease Athens held for me or if my friends deaths were just accidents or something darker. I like to think it was all just really bad luck. I can add one thing about the police around there. This is also rumor and has never been proven, but I have had a few friends end up dead after a run in with police in Athens. Probably a coincidence. There is a tragic cold case murder that happened on Monkey Road and the guy was tossed off of Thunder Bridge. He was one of my best friend's (who I also dated for awhile) brother. He was shot and thrown off the bridge 20 years ago. I saw that his sister had the case in the newspaper recently. Just go look it up at the Athens Review online. I have never. never heard that this murder had anything to do with supernatural events. I have also walked the entire length of Monkey Road at midnight and have never seen or heard anything unusual, you know like Monkeys. LOL

I apologize I was wrong about the fact that Will was in the car with Todd when Todd was killed, it was indeed Mark Shaffer. The car was a red Ford Comet that Todd had built in his HS shop class. I am hearing that he never worked at the Country Club, but this is not proven yet.

Trevina

Before my fiance was deployed, we went to Fuller Park. We didn't have any flashlights and no one else was with us. We saw the graves and walked straight back to where it's cleared out. There was nothing strange about it. Just like walking in the woods across from my house.



Mmkay, I do believe in curses, but I don't know that you can attribute deaths to a curse when it involved teenage boys drinking and driving too fast. As I've said before, I went to Cross Roads and we had several kids die while I was in school. Most were to auto accidents, but one hung herself and another died of cancer. Athens isn't cursed, but I don't think that it's silly to have those beliefs. You really should come back for a visit. We have a Wal-Mart Supercenter now! Hehe.

I have NOT seen ANYTHING about Athens Texas in the shape of a pentagram. I WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF IT! Where is the proof?

They are talking about tunnels, I believe. It's obviously not the actual roads in that shape; anyone can look at a map and see that for themselves. This thread is in the Conspiracies & Secret Societies part of the forum. Conspiracy theories aren't always true. That's why it's just a theory.

It's been a while since my last post. Here's an update on the documentary that we're filming over the dark history of Athens, TX I've posted two production video logs on youtube.com here's the URL if your interested http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSdwK3L9V28

Justin

I was born in Athens, texas grew up [font="Book Antiqua"][/font][size="2"][/size]there, and let me say, any and all stories you hear about fullers park, are probably true, ive been there, seen things that i wish i hadnt, Theres a disc golf tournament that happens right down the road from there (cain center) Paul Giles memorial. Let that be the one time a year you go to fullers park. (trust me)

Where are these pictures taken in Fuller Park? I want to see the mean looking orbs in the monkey cages!

There are still witch scares in the 21rst Century?!
Wow.

--Jaylemurph

There's another thread about this in urban legends

I have this thread all the way from the beggining and wanted to say it is very interesting. If anyone out there has anymore info please post it. Also some of you promised pictures !!! Where are they?



Labelsr4Jars

good luck most of these posts are pretty old

Good luck. I'm willing to bet those pictures never appear.

--Jaylemurph

This is something I found researching Athens


http://www.constitution.org/abus/jgray/jgray1.htm


Statement of Joe Gray
based on interview with Jon Roland
May 6, 2001

I have lived in Henderson County, Texas, near the town of Trinidad, since 1974. About May, 1985, I moved to a 47-acre tract of land our family still owns on the Trinity River, where we now reside. My wife Alicia and I had two children graduate from Malakoff High School and have homeschooled four others, in addition to my grandchildren.

Shortly after moving to this location, I was warned by a volunteer with the local fire department not to venture into the area across the Trinity River from my place because it was the scene of production of illegal substances, and my family has occasionally smelled the odor of ether coming from that area.

In 1987 I learned that someone else, Bill Key, had been interested in acquiring my property before I got it, and sought to get my family off the land so he could get it. Key owns about 5500 acres in Henderson County acquired through suspicious tax foreclosure and other sales, and is the owner of a bank in nearby Athens, Texas. I have reason to believe that at his instigation, the county tried to close the road to my place and deny me access to it. They ruled it a "ranch road" so they would no longer have to maintain it, and proceeded to remove the tarmac from it. This in turn led to the Post Office refusing to deliver mail to my mail box on grounds the road did not meet their standards. For the last three years I have gotten my mail General Delivery, Trinidad, Texas.

During the succeeding years I have become aware of extensive high-level illegal activities in this and neighboring counties, especially Anderson County, involving judges, sheriffs, and other officials, mostly involving narcotics, who operate with the protection of federal agents of the FBI and DEA and state agents of the DPS and Texas Rangers. After I began inviting militia groups to visit my property for training, it appears that they were perceived as a threat to expose the illegal operations of officials in this area, and this led those officials to come down on our family and try to run us out of the area. The key officials we suspect of involvement in the local narcotics trade are Bascom Bentley III, County Judge of Anderson County, Texas, Tom Smith, County Judge of Henderson County, John Hobson, Sheriff of Anderson County, Ronnie Brownlow, Chief Deputy Sheriff of Henderson County, and a temporary judge Jim Parson who travels among several counties including Anderson and Henderson, based on information provided by numerous trusted informants, citizens of the two counties, most of whom are afraid to come forward with their evidence.

Anderson County Sheriff Hobson is reported to seize livestock from people in that county without proper authority and sell them at auction in Henderson County, accepting only cash, giving no receipts, and keeping no public records of the sales.

A reporter, Jared Judd, attempted to report some of this in the Lakeside News, owned by Mayor Tye Thomas of Gun Barrel, Texas, but the story was suppressed and Judd quit when the newspaper was sold to the Mayor's secretary. The Mayor has since been charged with DWI at his own request.

One of our informants is Edward "Eddie" Miers, who ran unsuccessfully against Tom Smith for County Judge. He has a parts store in the town of Malakoff and serves as a mediator in some of our contacts with local officials.

Another key informant has been Aaron "Buster" Thompson, whose attorney is Matt Anthony of the law firm of Brewer and Brewer, who also represent the actor Chuck Norris. Thompson was an investigator for the Anderson County Sheriff Department, and found evidence of involvement of Anderson County officials in narcotics trafficking. He is now serving a ten-year sentence in Huntsville for "firing on police", however our independent investigations show that his arrest was actually an attempted murder to silence him, during which he was shot three times by deputy Larry Bennett, but survived. As described to us, elements of several agencies, local, state, and federal, complete with a helicopter, converged on his place without a warrant over a complaint of a domestic dispute, and fired on him without any provocation on his part. Some time before, Thompson's daughter had been kidnapped and murdered.

On Dec. 24, 1999, I was induced by Curtis Hartin, who represented himself as a militia activist, to travel with him, with him driving, to look at some property, and to bring along some firearms to do some shooting. We traveled across a county line, making the carrying of such firearms legal under the carrying defense of Texas statutes. Near the intersection of Hwy 287 and 321, we were stopped by two DPS troopers, Jim Cleland and Bryan Beckton, both of whom threatened to shoot me if I failed to exit the vehicle. I decided to exit, and to do that I had to extend my left arm to remove my seat belt. Cleland later reported that when I did that I grabbed his weapon, but when the DPS videotape did not show me grabbing the weapon, DPS investigator Gary Thomas told him to change his report to "reaching for". Thomas has since been fired.

Before I could exit Cleland pinned my right arm behind me to handcuff me, and Beckton hit me on the left side of my head with the side of a pistol, out of sight of the DPS video camera. When I raised my left arm to fend off the attack, he started yelling loudly "He's trying to reach for my gun!" Cleland then completed handcuffing both hands behind my back, and tried to put a choke hold on me in a way that caused me to fear for my life. In doing that Cleland put his right wrist in my mouth. I bit down on his arm in self-defense, to get him to release the pressure on my neck. This was the basis for the reported charge of assault on an officer. Throughout this incident, both troopers spoke in an unnatural manner, as though they were following a script. Medics called to the scene treated Cleland and cleaned the blood off my face.

While in custody, various irregular medical procedures were performed or attempted on me. They refused to release me on bond until I agreed to a "blood test". I refused, so they got an order to take the "blood test" from Justice of the Peace Carl Davis, and Bryan Beckton demanded that the nurse use a "red needle". She didn't understand what he meant. He told her to call his office, and that someone there would explain it to her. When she returned, and as she was about to inject the needle, Beckton asked her again whether it was a "red needle". She seemed perturbed, but said it was, and she proceeded to inject me. She no longer works there and may have been discharged.

Two days later, while still in custody, I was taken from my cell and told by someone who appeared to be a physician or medic that he had to give me a "TB shot". He showed me an unusual looking syringe, about three inches long and half an inch in diameter, with short needle, less than an inch long, that was extremely wide, about an eighth of an inch in diameter, filled with a white fluid. It was metallic, similar to the kind that are reused and sterilized, and used on livestock. Again I refused, and demanded a court order, and they put me in isolation. The injection did not occur, but in talking with four other inmates, they reported that they had also been injected with the same kind of syringe, and some had received a second shot because, they were told, their body had "rejected it". The diameter of the needle suggests that what was to be injected may have been a tracking device similar to those being marketed to track animals and children.

To the best of my knowledge, no charges have been properly filed, no indictment has been brought, and no notice to appear in court has been served on me. Nevertheless, on March 15, 2001, Justice of the Peace Judy Newmann gave bail bondsman Kirk Martin dba East Texas Bonds of Tyler, Texas, two tracts, a 3-acre and a 6-acre with a rent house, I own and put up as security for my appearance on a $306,000 bond, together with $500 in cash and 5 1-ounce gold coins, each worth about $425, but that bond was later reduced to $52,000. I have never received copies of the bond. I admit I would not have appeared, because I had been warned that if I went into custody again I would be found hanging in my cell.

Curtis Hartin was arrested with me, but officers kept saying to "keep him is a separate cell". He put up a $3000 cash bond, but has since disappeared. The only weapon or other personal property reported found in the vehicle that belonged to me was a .357 Taurus revolver. All other items belonged to Hartin. The Taurus was seized and has not been returned to me.

Much has been made in the media of the child custody dispute between my daughter and her ex-husband Keith Tarkington, but it needs to be said that he has mental problems, about which we counseled him, and we have a video tape of him admitting to the problem and agreeing to seek help for his condition. We suspect he was recruited by our adversaries to assist them in establishing grounds for coming down on my family to remove us as a source of potential exposure of high-level illegal activities in this area.

One of the things that is significant about Henderson County is the presence there of the Koon Kreek Klub (KKK), a 7000 acre private development with houses owned by wealthy and influential persons and a large hunting preserve, between Athens and Palestine, on Rainbow Lake. Incorporated in 1902 by an ex-Confederate Captain William Henry Guston, its members pay $35,000 to join and annual dues of $2000. One of the houses in the secretive community was purchased by George W. Bush in 1991, and sold for $10 just before the 2000 election. The Klub is reported to have no black members. Ex-president Clinton is reported to have visited the Klub, and it is also reported that parties have been held there at which illegal drugs were consumed and the services of prostitutes engaged. There are reports that the tax appraisals for the properties are suspiciously low, although there appears to have been a deliberate effort to conceal the location and other details of the Klub in public records.

That's right jaylemurph !!

EVIL is all around and after you are finished reading some of these posts on this topic we realise the most EVIL thing about Athens,Tx. is their poor E-D-U-C-A-T-I-O-N. It's a conspiracy !! Is it any wonder ?


We know those wiccans was crazy monkey worshippers.

Lets go Wiccan hunting on Holyweener night...........heehaw !!


Sorry the debbil made me do it

Thank you momentarylapseofreason !!!

I have really been diggin about Athens for more info
I will post it as I find it !

[size="4"][/size] when i was about nine me and my cousin was playing hide and seek and we both hide behind the couch in front a window. I looked up out the window and saw a demon, it was so real that the sunlight reflected off its body. I remember it took my breath away. I got us away and asked her if she had seen it and she did too. We told everyone and they had prayed i was quite for a couple of days. I repressed that memory until my cousin brought it up in resent years. This happened in Athens TX. I know of a cult Here as well I was born here and lived here all my life. There is so much more i could share .

[size="4"][/size] [b] I have heard and will soon find out for my research that the old hospital I was born at in Athens Tx there is an entrance there as well . Many people have gone in there and claimed in the basement there is one. Once i research it myself I will post something about it. One more thing my mom told me one holloween that a black rose was delivered to blond haired blue eyed kids in this area at south Athens Elementry fair a man dressed as the grim reeper tryed to coax me to go follow him a few times, my mom hurried me home because I have blond hair and blue eyes.

Satanists do not believe in neither God nor the Christian devil. They are, to put it shortly, materialistic atheists. Those who actively worship the devil as an existing entity are devil worshipers.

Anyway, the thread made for an interesting read. Keep the stories coming

Good stories. More More stories.

There has never been a tornado to ever have touched down in Athens NOT because of the spells cast on the town....it's because of Cedar Creek Lake! It's the lake, not a spell!

I've lived in Athens for 6 years, and have been coming to this town my whole life. I've always heard the stories and never given them much thought until I started googling it all. It's not the idea of ghosts that scares me, it's the fact that Fullers park, along with other key points throughout the city, are sights of pure evil. I guess I've always had a sheltered view of the world: true evil (like satan worshippers) was just something in movies. Things like that just don't happen around here. Except, they do. My uncle worked at the country club (one of the parts of the "pentagram") for years and has seen everything from the staircase that goes further underground, to actual satanists performing rituals. The sacrificial pit with the table and fireplace and stage and all, apparantly looks like a human skull if you look at it from the field bathrooms on the golf course. It's not just some folk tale, it's real. I've been in Fullers park, during the day walking with friends, and once at night by myself (locked in the safety of my jeep). It just seemed like a joke at the time, but there really are freaky, scary, evil things going on in there. Honestly, I can't wait to get the eff out of Athens and never come back.

I lived in Athens for a short period in the early 80's. Fullers Park is the only place that I have ever visited that truly felt "creepy". It was a place of legend when I attended Athens High School in '83. A friend from school lived across the side street that runs next to Fullers Park (not the street that the gate is on). When I would go to his house and visit, we would always end up in Fullers Park, but only during the day. It was Always creepy but tolerable during the day. Even in the early 80's when the underbrush was kept trimmed back and it was still a partially groomed park. That being said, I tried many many times to enter that park at night and could never get past the gate or even be able to jump the wall and stand still without getting completely "weirded out". Through the years as I happened to be in the area, again, entry during the day was calm yet creepy, but entry at night was just too damned spooky for me. I don't know what I feel there, but I definitely feel SOMETHING. I'm sure it's an overactive imagination, but there really is a sense of power in Fullers Park.

As far as my own spooky story, when I was attending Athens highschool, 3 classmates were in a car accident resulting in one of them dying. A couple of days later, I was in Fullers Park and noticed all 3 of those classmates names etched in the Fullers' gravestones. Spooky eh? Granted they weren't the only names, it was nothing more than etched grafitti that countless others had taken part in over the years, but it was odd that I noticed those fresh etchings just days after the accident.