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Raistlin Majere
All of that just seems so...unreal. I'm sorry if this makes you feel bad, but I have a really hard time believing much of this. Although, I won't go out and say you're a liar, I've never been in a similar situation. I can say that I've experienced things that have frightened me a great deal in a magnetude like this, but only in dreams. I just hope you're a violent sleep walker, I really do. But things like this will forever remain scientifically unexplained, most likely. I can say that I am pleased that you found God. Know that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light. But, say you were a devout before this all, I would call it a test of faith, we all get them, in one form or another. One major test of faith came for us all on September 11, 2001...
Jolene
QUOTE(Raistlin Majere @ Nov 29 2004, 11:17 AM)
All of that just seems so...unreal. I'm sorry if this makes you feel bad, but I have a really hard time believing much of this. Although, I won't go out and say you're a liar, I've never been in a similar situation. I can say that I've experienced things that have frightened me a great deal in a magnetude like this, but only in dreams. I just hope you're a violent sleep walker, I really do. But things like this will forever remain scientifically unexplained, most likely. I can say that I am pleased that you found God. Know that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light. But, say you were a devout before this all, I would call it a test of faith, we all get them, in one form or another. One major test of faith came for us all on September 11, 2001...
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I appreciate your taking the time to express your thoughts.
You are very fortunate to have dodged these problems.
I want for everyone to be made aware.
I understand the your feelings.
What else can I say?
I know that I would have had to see it for my self to even consider it all.
moe eubleck
Dear Jesus Christ,

If you already died for our sins, why do I have to be good ?



love,

Moe


zukie&jim
cat.gif my ex had similar problems--i was never clear if it was demonic, or some kind of weird poltierguist activity. i am normally sceptical of such things. but after encountering a few things myself-- you certainly get the benefit of the dout.
Jolene
QUOTE(jsf35rino @ Nov 29 2004, 05:51 PM)
cat.gif  my ex had similar problems--i was never clear if it was demonic, or some kind of weird poltierguist activity. i am normally sceptical of such things. but after encountering a few things myself-- you certainly get the benefit of the dout.
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moe eubleck
Dear Jesus,

When does doubt benefit ?

love Moe.







Dear Moe

Doubt can be beneficial. But not if you doubt me. I will send you to hell.

Your lord and saviour,

Jesus Christ
Insight
I believe everything you say. Reaffirm your faith in God, and he will always deliver you from the forces of darknes, the forces of the enemy. Your story sounds all to real to me. And you seem to be right on track with your faith. I look forward to reading your future posts. I too am a believer in the loving and living God. I have heard accounts much like yours. It must be terrifying and difficult to experience what you do. But as God says, we are to count it all joy, in the fact that it brings us closer to him. Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and everything shall be added unto you.

Insight
QUOTE(moe eubleck @ Nov 29 2004, 08:10 AM)
Dear Jesus Christ,

If you already died for our sins, why do I have to be good ?



love,

Moe
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It easy to ask questions. But do you have an answer to this one? Have you sought Jesus and asked him why you have to be good?

I thought not.

So don't make assumptions about things which you know nothing about. All it does is antagonize people who do.
Raistlin Majere
I guess we should all go out and rape and kill everybody in sight. Because, you know, Jesus will forgive it, it's never going to be wrong.

That's such a moronic view.
MooGuru1
I've always felt that to find peace within this life, relying on an outside force to fix things is the wrong way to go. You have obviously be endowed with a strong energy that is beyond this physical world, that seems to be very attractive these demons you have encountered. I have been studying hypnosis for seven years and do think that you should look into yourself. You can learn to control aspects of yourself you never know you could. I highly reccomend researching it.
And as a note to ponder, you're strength and your faith should be inspired by the ideas that make up religions....but the truth should be found within yourself. Don't rely on something that you aren't completely convinced is true. Answers are in you.....some very powerful ones. Good Luck!

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Jolene
[quote=moe eubleck,Nov 29 2004, 09:09 PM]
Dear Jesus,

When does doubt benefit ?

love Moe.

Dear Moe,

Strike that

Dear Slap in the face,

Ha Ha Ha Ha......please try being more constructive.
I would like to read what you have to say, if it has some substance.

It is clear that you are a comedian.
Even though you show absolutely no conscience of mind as to what others may believe, and to what some may hold more valuable than their own lives.

We are all friends here and share similar interests.
Why else would we visit this site?

Share with us your real thoughts without affending others.
I was there reading when the whole topic started about Jesus.
I believe that I started that one.

Your reply was to me in reference to him.
It is getting a little old and some of us are much more interested in
other matters.

Kid around, thats adds to the spice of life. Thats great. I personally enjoy laughs.
I just think that you are being selfish when you joke at the expense of other's
beliefs.
It sort of defeats the whole purpose of being funny, if it actually hurts one's feelings.

I personally despise discusting remarks about the most beautiful humanbeing that ever walked the surface of our insignificant little planet, for the sake of our lives.

Throw away the gift of love that he came to give all of us. That is your choice that you will have to live with.
I am just asking you to be funny, to actually be funny, and not abusive.

It would be nice to have you really join us in conversation.






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Jolene
[quote=Insight,Nov 29 2004, 09:54 PM]
I believe everything you say.

That is a good feeling that rarely comes to me. Thank you.


Your story sounds all to real to me.
I have heard accounts much like yours. It must be terrifying and difficult to experience what you do.

I must ask, have you had some things happen to you?
Because it sounds like you have.
I am interested in your experiences if you have had any, and if you are willing to share.

But as God says, we are to count it all joy, in the fact that it brings us closer to him. Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and everything shall be added unto you.

I too know thats the whole theme of God's letter to us. I agree completely.

Hope to read from you soon!




































Jolene
QUOTE(MooGuru1 @ Nov 30 2004, 04:59 AM)
I've always felt that to find peace within this life, relying on an outside force to fix things is the wrong way to go. You have obviously be endowed with a strong energy that is beyond this physical world, that seems to be very attractive these demons you have encountered. I have been studying hypnosis for seven years and do think that you should look into yourself. You can learn to control aspects of yourself you never know you could. I highly reccomend researching it.
  And as a note to ponder, you're strength and your faith should be inspired by the  ideas that make up  religions....but the truth should be found within yourself. Don't rely on something that you aren't completely convinced is true. Answers are in you.....some very powerful ones. Good Luck!

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Jolene
QUOTE(MooGuru1 @ Nov 30 2004, 04:59 AM)
I've always felt that to find peace within this life, relying on an outside force to fix things is the wrong way to go. You have obviously be endowed with a strong energy that is beyond this physical world, that seems to be very attractive these demons you have encountered. I have been studying hypnosis for seven years and do think that you should look into yourself. You can learn to control aspects of yourself you never know you could. I highly reccomend researching it.
  And as a note to ponder, you're strength and your faith should be inspired by the  ideas that make up  religions....but the truth should be found within yourself. Don't rely on something that you aren't completely convinced is true. Answers are in you.....some very powerful ones. Good Luck!

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Wow.....I didn't think of it that way. I mean that I never considered that I was a strong force of energy.
I welcome thoughts. I also freely give them.

I will also do as you suggested. I will check out hypnosis. I have wanted to for some time now. I would love to find out what memories actually come out.

Maybe I won't love those memories, but atleast it would be answers.

Thank you.

dagreenbug53
I feel sorry for you... escpecially after reading what 'happened'
Raistlin Majere
QUOTE(MooGuru1 @ Nov 29 2004, 11:59 PM)
I've always felt that to find peace within this life, relying on an outside force to fix things is the wrong way to go. You have obviously be endowed with a strong energy that is beyond this physical world, that seems to be very attractive these demons you have encountered. 

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That energy would happen to be her immortal soul, trying to be taken back by Satan.
Jolene
For me the last three nights have been very difficult.
Last night was sort of a break from it's presence.
It's giving my son nightmares. We said a prayer and when he fell asleep
again, 10 minutes later, he woke up and told me that it laughed. My son is six years old. I don't discuss these things with anyone else but here with you all and my husband in private. I know that it is now messing with my son.
It started with me when I was 5 years old. Why not him, I realize.

In the middle of the night, it pulles the covers off of my little boy.
He was crying telling me that someone is taking them off of him.
I just for now tell him that he must have done it himself and he insists with his little voice that he isn't doing it.
Why would he, it is freezing right now at night.
The night his covers were pulled off, I had previously tucked him in tightly and added an additional cover to him for extra warmth.

This scares me. I don't want them to do to him the things I've been through.

Lately it has been attacking me.
I really need help. I am a normal fun living person. You can look at me and never
expect these things in my life.
I pretend that everything is just great.
Recently everything has started again.

The same morning that I found the covers on my son's bed all on the floor, I
heard it say to me in my right ear "I am not interested in you" sarcastically.

I got up out of bed and just ignored it.
My husband was in the kitchen by the sink. I could hear him running the water.
I looked at the ironing board and I thought to my self ( Jolene, the rent needs to be paid today) and then as I was standing in the doorway, my husband said "honey, can you pay the rent ?
Just look at the iron board, in the envelope. The rent papers are there. I was surprised. I never pay the rent. I don't even really know how much it is and when it's due. My husband does this for us. He likes to take care of the details.

I just looked at the ironingboard and thats funny.
I also for some reason thought that I had to do it myself. I was right.

He has to go out of town and he can't, thats why I have to.
I didn't even know yet that he was scheduled to leave. He informed me later that night.

Anyway, Ive noticed that I start knowing things when that thing is in my life.

It has been attacking me. Trying to make me insane.
I almost loose my mind. I now know that there is something worse than death.
When it attacks me, I want to die. I so desperately feel like just dieing.
It is better than going through the hell it now enjoys putting me through.,

It has attacked my husband before, so I am glad he is understanding and more importantly a believer of what I am saying.
He knows and has witnessed me going through these attacks.
THIS THING JUMPS INTO ME.
I hate it. It makes me sooo cold and I get this fear that is torture.
Pure evil.
It trys to get me in my sleep.
I hate it.
It use to have its way with me.
I learned how to fight it and know I am paying the price.
I think that it wants to drive me towards the path that it put my mother through.
She started drinking to deal with it touching her at night.
She began drinking very very much.
She needed it to bear it's presence around her.
Then 5 years before she even became pregnant with me, she quit drinking through A A.
Because of the addiction to alcohol she wasn't able to deal with them sober.
She saw a doctor and started taking valums to cope.
I think I may have spelled that valum wrong.
O well...... anyway, for years she stayed on that stuff to deal with it.
Recently she got off of it and saw another doctor and he gave her something that put her in accoma.
Now she is a living vegetable.
I remeber her telling, after I confessed what was happening to me, that it likes me and it will come after me too.
It did and is.
Now I have a son and it has begun.

People don't believe these things in general, but I know.

So does my poor ex-husband. He know lives with his own personal *case worker.*

It bothers him too. Now that he has come to close to me.

It is not fun when something is standing over you in the darkness of night.
It really is not fun when it decides to levitate you in your sleep.
When you wake up and find a green light around you, and some creatures face in the corner of the room looking at you.
I seen my friends go through some pretty nasty unexplainable things.
My friend Kevin got peed on all over him. It was all over his back. Clearly not a place to pee on your self. He was sitting next to my best friend at the time.
He just got through giving me some Bible literature that day. It misterously vanished also. I later found it a year later in the bottom of my closet on the floor,in the back. Where I never put anything. It was an old fashioned closet, and it had small little shelves at the bottom. I found them there. I am telling you that no one put them there.
My *friend* did.
O God, sooo many things, soo many things.
It is just soo crazy. I am just sick of it.
I don't want this, I never did.
I just wish that I could forever get rid of this crap.

Soon, if I am not dead or hospitalised for going crazy, I will post more on what it so lovingly did to my poor husband. You will have a better understanding.

By for now

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Tia
Jolene, I really think you should get in a psychic team or priest.
It may get worse, before it gets better.
There was a thread on here before from Haunted one? She was going through a lot of similar experiences I'll have a look for it when I get a chance.
Jolene
QUOTE(Tia @ Dec 1 2004, 09:57 PM)
Jolene, I really think you should get in a psychic team or priest.
It may get worse, before it gets better.
There was a thread on here before from Haunted one? She was going through a lot of similar experiences I'll have a look for it when I get a chance.
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Please do Tia
Raistlin Majere
I say you try to record this thing, find out what it is or if it's real, and find a way to kick its ass or get it out of your house. That's if it's a physical being, anyway.
Tia
Hi Jolene here is the link to Haunted ones thread. It's about 12 pages long, there are some things in it though that I'm sure you'll understand.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...topic=15774&hl=
Insight
Dearest Jolene: Everything you have described to us here is the truth. Remain steadfast in your faith, and God will deliver you from the hands of the enemy. God is triumphant over his enemies. Seek him. Seek his council. Pray that he will break the satanic ties in your past that give this demon power over you. God loves you, and will protect you. I myself will say prayers for you, in faith that God will remain with you and guide you through your dark times.

"Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear NO EVIL, for THOU ARE WITH ME."

Godbless you.
Jolene
It means alot to me that you prayed for me. I do pray also.
I am drawing closer to God and it will fight me and make things more difficult for awhile, because it has in the past. Even though it does I will continue to seek
refuge in our master creature. Thank you so much. It was just wonderful to read your message.
Jolene
I wish that I could have a paranormal investigation done at my home at various times. I have these strange photos and I feel drastic changes in tempreture at times. I also have strange smells, both good and discusting.

I am sorry to have made you feel bad.
I am just venting off years of crap that I am desperate to get rid of.
Jolene
QUOTE(Raistlin Majere @ Dec 2 2004, 02:11 AM)
I say you try to record this thing, find out what it is or if it's real, and find a way to kick its ass or get it out of your house. That's if it's a physical being, anyway.
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I love your attitude towards this. Thats my take on it too. I have challenged it before and it backed down.

I will tell you a time when I did this.

One night while I was just about to fall asleep I felt a tingling around my body.
Around this time I was being levitated at night in my sleep. I remeber this because I would awaken and I couldn't move but I was alert enough to realize my situation.

It was around me and I felt that tingling again and I was scared and mad. It tried to make me submissive or it tried to saduse me into being submissive.
It usually gives me this overwhelming feeling of sexual pleasure that is unlike anything we as humans experience.
I knew that it was going to control me again. I fought its grip on me. I resisted and resisted until it lost and I was able to move again.
I could feel that it wasn't going to give up, it was mad. I tried to sleep even though it was still in my room.
Soon enough it made itself known to me by sight and it was in the corner of my room looking at me. It was green, neon green glowing and its face was really ugly and he had a look in his eyes that let me know that I was in trouble.

It came closer to me and again I couldn't move. I was freaking out I couldn't believe my eyes.
It loved making me so scared. When it was close CLOSE I mean in my face, it opened its' mouth and put my head into it. It clamped down on my face. This was painful, very painful. I was soooo very horrified and helpless. IT WASN'T LETTING UP. I eventually became incredibly angry and I sad " Is that all youv'e got YOU PIECE OF S*** ".
Its grip on my head was bad before, but when I said that it shut its' jaw on me so tightly that it felt like my head was about to cave in.

NEED I SAY THIS HURT LIKE HELL.

Anyway, I remebered to call apon Jehovah and so I did.
I just said it once and it vanished. I saw it shrink away further and further until it was gone. I turned around and thanked God.

Around that time I was having a ball with playing games on me for fun.
My little *friend* likes to toy with me. Especially at night.

One night my sister came into my room and woke me up shaking me to show me something in her room. She was wearing a red shirt when she was in my room.
Half a sleep, I got up and followed her into the hall way and then I couldn't see her anymore. I opened her bedroom door and looked in saying something like "your but could have left the door open for me. What do you want"?

As I looked in her room I noticed that she was already in her bed and asleep. The light was off and nothing was going on. She was sleeping. I stood there and I was mad. I uncovered her to check her color of her shirt and it was purple.

I went back to bed.
Soon after this, a few nights later she comes into my room again to get me for something. I woke up to her shaking me and she looked excited about something. I got up and followed her in the hall way even to her door. When she opened the door she vanished and I saw her actually sleeping in her bed again!

I just can't tell you how mad I was. What the hell did it want for me to do. I know now that it just likes to drive me crazy.

Another night I heard my mother crying and I got up to see about her.
I passed through the kitchen and I turned on the lights. I found her very upset and scared. Her face was red and it looked like something hurt her face.
I comforted her and she told me that something hit her in her face.
I really couldn't believe it. This was just crazy, but I have to admit that her face wasn't exactly fine either. I mean that my mother would never hit herself.
I offered her some coffee to stay up with her for the night. I wasn't going to leave her alone.
So I went into the kitchen and all of a sudden there was thousands of huge fruit flys everywhere. They slapped me in the face. I am telling you that there were so many flys that I could grab a hand full of them in the air.
My mom screamed "Baby its here"
I said what, she said that whenever flys just appear like that out of nowhere. That
it is a sign of some evil presence.
I left that room and I felt sick. I then searched any possible way for them to have entered the kitchen. Then I remebered that just a few moments ago I went into the kitchen to turn on the lights when I got up. I didn't see a single one.

I did my best to get rid of them.

Another time. I was asleep and I woke up about 6 inches off of my bed. I felt AGAIN that tingling feeling. I could hear some evil talking. It sounded like no language that I have ever heard in my life. There were more than one.
I do remeber feeling my old *friend* there. He has been in my life for so long that I actually know a good bit about his personality.
I can feel him anywhere.

Then this strange green glow was everywhere. I wasn't exactly able to do anything. I was falling into some kind of strange sleep. But before I did I FELT them all grab a hold of me and open my legs and touch me everywhere. I knew what was going to happen. I couldn't do anything about it. I then fell into that strange sleep. I awoke that morning and I can't remeber how it happened, but I woke up with blood everywhere underneath me. It was up to my neck coming from my private.

I am telling the truth. I am telling the truth. Subject me to any lie detector test, any hypnosis anything that can validate my story to you.

I am willing, in fact I hope that one day someone who does paranormal research finds this and decides to check me out.

Anyway, I got up and I had blood allover me. I have endometriosis and this causes me to have heavy periods, but this was unlike nothing I have ever heard of. I then had my period for three days.
I will never forget what happened to me the night before.

I have been through alot of things that should have drove me crazy.


Jolene
[quote=Jolene,Dec 4 2004, 06:07 AM]
[quote=Raistlin Majere,Dec 2 2004, 02:11 AM]I say you try to record this thing, find out what it is or if it's real, and find a way to kick its ass or get it out of your house. That's if it's a physical being, anyway.
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I love your attitude towards this. Thats my take on it too. I have challenged it before and it backed down.

I will tell you a time when I did this.

One night while I was just about to fall asleep I felt a tingling around my body.
Around this time I was being levitated at night in my sleep. I remeber this because I would awaken and I couldn't move but I was alert enough to realize my situation.

It was around me and I felt that tingling again and I was scared and mad. It tried to make me submissive or it tried to saduse me into being submissive.
It usually gives me this overwhelming feeling of sexual pleasure that is unlike anything we as humans experience.
I knew that it was going to control me again. I fought its grip on me. I resisted and resisted until it lost and I was able to move again.
I could feel that it wasn't going to give up, it was mad. I tried to sleep even though it was still in my room.
Soon enough it made itself known to me by sight and it was in the corner of my room looking at me. It was green, neon green glowing and its face was really ugly and he had a look in his eyes that let me know that I was in trouble.

It came closer to me and again I couldn't move. I was freaking out I couldn't believe my eyes.
It loved making me so scared. When it was close CLOSE I mean in my face, it opened its' mouth and put my head into it. It clamped down on my face. This was painful, very painful. I was soooo very horrified and helpless. IT WASN'T LETTING UP. I eventually became incredibly angry and I sad " Is that all youv'e got YOU PIECE OF S*** ".
Its grip on my head was bad before, but when I said that it shut its' jaw on me so tightly that it felt like my head was about to cave in.

NEED I SAY THIS HURT LIKE HELL.

Anyway, I remebered to call apon Jehovah and so I did.
I just said it once and it vanished. I saw it shrink away further and further until it was gone. I turned around and thanked God.

I forgot to add that after it happened and before I went back to sleep, I sat up and
challenged it. I said " You piece of s*** COME AND FIGHT ME. JUST ME AND YOU"
if you were a person I would kill you."
I was screaming serious.

I know that I have alot of things to say. That I certainly seem unreal.
Iam perfectly aware of how I sound and I guess that is just part of the torture of it all.

Because of the years of abuse I now have panic attacks. I seem to get them at night when ever I feel its presence. I am just so scared.

Just yesterday I went to the hospital to see psyc doctor. I am just sick and tired of it. I was not only seen by one, but three.

I talked with them for hours. I told them experiences since I was a child. I didn't hold anything back. I shared with them even my most personal things.
I was surprised to find how understanding they were and I offered them a few phone numbers to call to give testimony to some of the things that I am claiming. I was dead serious. I insisted.

I just wanted to see if it drove me crazy, even though I believe that I am not.
All crazy people believe that they are not crazy at all. So I just wanted to find out. I mean if I am crazy hit me with a brick or give me medication or something. Just help stop what happens in my life.
That was my point of view. If I am not crazy I figured that atleast I haven't turned into what it wants.

Well..... after a long discussion, my main problem was this feeling that something is jumping inside of me and giving me this incredible fear. I told them that I would rather die than to go through it again.

They all came to one agreement. They all said that what could possibly be causing me to feel this is my thyroid. I may have a hyper thyroid that is producing something they called clorophyll, in the brain.
That too much clorophyll causes panic attacks in people with too much stress. They all agreed that I have alot to deal with. Don't we all.
The only thing is that they THINK that it may be my thyroid causing it.

When it all was over I was about to check out and I couldn't believe that I didn't get my diagnosis. They forgot to tell me.
I requested that one of them come to talk to me.
I did get my diagnosis.
It was that they all agreed that my thyroid was most likely the problem.

Wippee I am not crazy, I was sooo releaved. I actually was begining to doubt myself and freak out. I am just so desperate to understand what is happening.

I will explain what they said.
Prolonged stress causes the thyroid to over produce hormones and brain chemicals. Unfortunately some brain chemicals when in excess cause problems. Like panic attacks.

So according to them stress got me into this problem and whenever I go through a panic attack I become more stressed and the whole chain reaction continues.
In two weeks I will find out through blood tests if it is my thyroid or not. If it is then I am having panic attacks and bouts of fear due to stress causing it to happen. If I check out clear with my thyroid Ben Taubs best will actually have nothing else to say about what is causing my fear. Then I have to say that something *my friend is causing me to have these problems for entertainment.

Well.... I am very happy that I didn't walk out of there with a lable.

I guess its pretty sad. I wish that I could just meet one person who has been through things like me.

I need all the advise I can get.

If it is my thyroid causing me fear, that dosen't rule out my experiences it only shows what happens to a humanbeing after having so many. STRESS. Especially when you don't feel comfortable in your own home.
MooGuru1
Today I was thinking about what happens when people pray and I thought of you Jolene. First of all, people usually pray when they are going through hard times and need strength to bare it, or when they feel extremely grateful for what they have. Now, I happen to think that when you expect good things to happen you pull good things to you...and same goes with the bad. It is just a matter of harnessing that power you have when praying, wishing, or needing something, and aiming it to a place where it will benefit you most. Have you ever been strapped for cash then all of a sudden you receive a check in the mail? Or, have you ever been singing a song, got into your car, and it was playing on the radio? Same idea. Some people can do this better then others. You seem like a person who would be very good at it.

Now, what if you assigned areas in your house that, with all of you mental, emotional, and spiritual being, you not allow this "friend" of yours to go. Perform a personal little ritual to purify these area's if you want. Imagine protective bubbles around you and your loved ones. The more detailed the better. When you pray you become stronger because you are more connected and focused on the higher being that connects us all. Help him help you. Focus his protective energy through you. Reinforce as much as you can.

I Imagine this little demon fellow as something that loves to feed off all the negative energy he conjures up inside you. You, because you have a body and soul, are stronger then it. Don't let him break you down. You are something it will never be. You have something it will never have. Don't let him have the best of you.

I just hope you give what I say a try. It will make you stronger in the end. Good luck...I'll be reading!

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Raistlin Majere
I might suggest that it may be schitzoid. I have a mild degree of it. It's basically when all of one's paranoia and stress will go to the back of their mind and can release in many different ways. It basically gets a mind of its own, becomming another personality of the person, like mild schitzophrania. It's not uncommon for it to become violent delusions. Mine vents out in the form of unfeeling rages in which all my feelings for other people will just go away and I focus on my target. I basically go into a mental berserkergang.
digitalprincess
[quote=Jolene,Dec 4 2004, 09:40 AM]

Hi Jolene,

Sad to think about your past and present situation, your in the middle of witches and satanic worshippers kind of family circle. I would like to talk to you through yahoo messenger personally, that is if you like to have a new friend to help you what you are going through.

My observation according to your experiences, obviously tells itself, that it is a satanic manifestations. The fact that you are alive and kicking, proves that you are not weak or insane, whatever demons that are trying to bring you down to the abyss of misery and horrifying experiences that continue to persist, you should always , always put in your heart and mind, that God loves you very much. I know that he is protecting you, or your dead by now. Call on him always, and be grateful in your heart whatever blessings he gave you, he is many times sad if we only call on him or pray on him , if we need something. He is our father, the father of our spirit, just like our parents, they are our parents in the flesh. Call on him and ask him to send his holy angels to protect you always, your son, and your husband.

The experiences you have with these sinisters, demons or witches are so creepy. Your got to remember, if you cannot speak during their dark power overshadow you, just think to call on Jesus in his holy name to deliver you from destruction. Example think like this: In the name of the only begotten Son of God Jesus Christ, satan....get away from me and never come back. Keep on repeating it with all your energy of your mind, might and soul....with all the faith, never doubting, but completely trusting in God that he will deliver you from all of these.
Then, let us know if it works.

Please take note...that they feed on your fear. Never fear them, face them...and tell it to their face that dont have a body....that you are more powerful than they are. Cause you had a physical body, and they dont have. They are absolutely abusing you sexually, emotionally , physically and spiritually. This is unfair! You should NOT BE AFRAID ....no matter how hideous or horrible, they try to portray themselves before your very eyes.

Anyway, PM me if you want...to talk to me through Yahoo Messenger, i will be willing to offer my support , encouragement and friendship towards you. Take care of yourself and love your family, they are the only treasure worth living in this world. P.S. Always pray night and day together and ask for protection from God our Father above. grin2.gif
Slipnish
Any luck contacting a group yet?
Raistlin Majere
Well, she's already undergoing free group therepy: this forum.
Jolene
[quote=MooGuru1,Dec 5 2004, 02:34 AM]Today I was thinking about what happens when people pray and I thought of you Jolene. First of all, people usually pray when they are going through hard times and need strength to bare it, or when they feel extremely grateful for what they have. Now, I happen to think that when you expect good things to happen you pull good things to you...and same goes with the bad. It is just a matter of harnessing that power you have when praying, wishing, or needing something, and aiming it to a place where it will benefit you most. Have you ever been strapped for cash then all of a sudden you receive a check in the mail? Or, have you ever been singing a song, got into your car, and it was playing on the radio? Same idea. Some people can do this better then others. You seem like a person who would be very good at it.

So true. I am sorry for not replying sooner.
I do know what you mean by this and I try to keep positive.  Often it is hard but, at other times it is my son that makes me happy. I look at him and his sweet little face and I remeber all the good in this world.

Your also right about the money thing and thinking positively. I thought that I would be in a bind, but I  decided not to worry about it. Just 3 days ago I went to school and they handed me a check close to $3,000. It turns out that I have been over paying them last for 3 months. WHAT A pleasent surprise.

That song thing is true also.       

  Now, what if you assigned areas in your house that, with all of you mental, emotional, and spiritual being, you not allow this "friend" of yours to go. Perform a personal little ritual to purify these area's if you want. Imagine protective bubbles around you and your loved ones. The more detailed the better. When you pray you become stronger because you are more connected and focused on the higher being that connects us all. Help him help you. Focus his protective energy through you. Reinforce as much as you can. 

I do this often when I have stress. The only problem is I always get interupted.
You know LIFE. I like to meditate and pretend that I am flying over vast lands.
Feeling the winds chill and going up and down between valleys and over rivers.
I love to pretend that I am falling down Niagras great fall as though it were a ride. I go to the ocean and just stand there and look at the full moon and the stars. I am a smoker so I imagine lighting one up and tasting it. I feel that this in particular really puts me in a deeper state. I imagine the warm sand between my toes and I hear the tidel waves swushing in towards me.
This helps me to relax and I have beautiful nature music that I occasionally listen to.


I Imagine this little demon fellow as something that loves to feed off all the negative energy he conjures up inside you. You, because you have a body and soul, are stronger  then it. Don't let him break you down. You are something it will never be. You have something it will never have. Don't let him have the best of you.

I just hope you give what I say a try. It will make you stronger in the end. Good luck...I'll be reading!


I will do as you have suggested. You really reminded me of it. I just have been so busy with school and all.
Thank you. 
Jolene
For Raistlin Majere
QUOTE
I might suggest that it may be schitzoid.
Question.
Are you suggestiing that I may have this?
I am not taking offense. I just don't want to assume anything before I give a reply.

To you having this quirk, I would like to hear more about this. I am interested and I may have some information for you regarding this.

Below is Raistlin's statement.
I have a mild degree of it. It's basically when all of one's paranoia and stress will go to the back of their mind and can release in many different ways.

My question to you also is, in what kinds of ways do you release this built up stress?


Ralistlin's statement
It basically gets a mind of its own, becomming another personality of the person, like mild schitzophrania.

Jolene
Question: Were you diagnosed this?

It's not uncommon for it to become violent delusions. Mine vents out in the form of unfeeling rages in which all my feelings for other people will just go away and I focus on my target.
I am no expert, but maybe something that happened to you causes you to become so angry. I am sorry that this happenes to you. Does this happen often?
Does this put your life on pause?
Or in better words, does this interfere with your daily rituals?

Ralistlin's statement
I basically go into a mental berserkergang.


I was recently evaluated by three psyciatrists and they found nothing to classify me with. They all admit is that I have extreme stress and that its causing me to have acute panic attacks. That it may be due to my thyroid. I hope that it is my thyroid and not something causing me these insane panic attacks.
I had my worst one when I was sleeping. They (psyciatrists) all said that they never heard of a panic attack happening while someone is sleeping.

This isn't normal. I will find out if I have a thyroid problem for sure through another batch of tests.
If I don't have a problem with my thyroid I will have to assume that my *FRIEND*
has moved to faze 2 in terrorizing me. Just like it did with my mother.

HOW WONDERFUL blink.gif

I would like you to tell me more Raistlin.
Jolene
[quote=digitalprincess,Dec 5 2004, 07:40 AM]
[quote=Jolene,Dec 4 2004, 09:40 AM]

Hi Jolene,

Sad to think about your past and present situation, your in the middle of witches and satanic worshippers kind of family circle. I would like to talk to you through yahoo messenger personally, that is if you like to have a new friend to help you what you are going through.

To Digital Princess, I would like that too, but wouldn't it be benificial to talk on this board? Just so that everyone can learn of these strange things and find help.
If you still want to talk to me on yahoo personal messenger, thats more than fine with me.

My observation according to your experiences, obviously tells itself, that it is a satanic manifestations. The fact that you are alive and kicking, proves that you are not weak or insane, whatever demons that are trying to bring you down to the abyss of misery and horrifying experiences that continue to persist, you should always , always put in your heart and mind, that God loves you very much. I know that he is protecting you, or your dead by now. Call on him always, and be grateful in your heart whatever blessings he gave you, he is many times sad if we only call on him or pray on him , if we need something. He is our father, the father of our spirit, just like our parents, they are our parents in the flesh. Call on him and ask him to send his holy angels to protect you always, your son, and your husband.

The experiences you have with these sinisters, demons or witches are so creepy. Your got to remember, if you cannot speak during their dark power overshadow you, just think to call on Jesus in his holy name to deliver you from destruction. Example think like this: In the name of the only begotten Son of God Jesus Christ, satan....get away from me and never come back. Keep on repeating it with all your energy of your mind, might and soul....with all the faith, never doubting, but completely trusting in God that he will deliver you from all of these.
Then, let us know if it works.

Please take note...that they feed on your fear. Never fear them, face them...and tell it to their face that dont have a body....that you are more powerful than they are. Cause you had a physical body, and they dont have. They are absolutely abusing you sexually, emotionally , physically and spiritually. This is unfair! You should NOT BE AFRAID ....no matter how hideous or horrible, they try to portray themselves before your very eyes.

Anyway, PM me if you want...to talk to me through Yahoo Messenger, i will be willing to offer my support , encouragement and friendship towards you. Take care of yourself and love your family, they are the only treasure worth living in this world. P.S. Always pray night and day together and ask for protection from God our Father above. grin2.gif


My friend I will PM you as soon as I figure out how to do it. tongue.gif
I know I know..... I really am just a toddler when it comes to computers.

Ahhh.... I will try to soon. Ummm..... sometimes I get these pictures of women from a little yellow man on the top of my setting. They think that I am a guy and they send me some sluchy pics. Is that yellow man what I sould use to PM you?


I'll be writing and of course misspelling too!
Jolene
QUOTE(Slipnish @ Dec 5 2004, 07:24 PM)
Any luck contacting a group yet?
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I emailed one of them and I am still waiting for a reply.

I will email them all something and we will see. I am also going to show you all some drawings of what I have seen.
As soon as I figure out how to put them on this board tongue.gif
Raistlin Majere
I was diagnosed with Parnoia and ADHD, two major things that are similar to attributes of Schitzoid. I asked one of them and they said it's still very much on the table for diagnosis.
Jolene
QUOTE(Raistlin Majere @ Dec 8 2004, 12:06 AM)
I was diagnosed with Parnoia and ADHD, two major things that are similar to attributes of Schitzoid. I asked one of them and they said it's still very much on the table for diagnosis.
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Yes but your still young. You have plenty of time to finish maturing mentally.
For example: When I was a child I had a stigmatism in one eye. Now that I am an
adult it has been corrected. I just had to strenghten it through use.

Also about most Parnoias, this only shows that you are aware of your surroundings and the realitys of the world around you. It is not like we live in a world where everyone cares about everyone. The fact is well known that
things are dangerous everywhere. It is a good quality to have to beable to
be aware of your surroungings. The only problem is that all of this stress has brought some people down with nervous break-down.

Take Hitler for example: He was very inteligent and he was also paranoid.
He surrounded himself with protection. He was well aware of the situation of his time. He was just evil and very prejduce.

Later on in his life he, understress, became Paranoid in a bad way. He suspected that everyone was after his position and had several close friends executed.

If you see a Psyc Dr. he will generally ask you questions like, do you believe that someone is out to get you? Or, does the TV talk to you?
If not then they generally dismiss the form of paranoia that is dangerous to others and the person being asked.

Bottom Line.
Very inteligent persons such as yourself do have a form of paranoia.
This as far as I know is perfectly normal and comes with the territory of just
being able to comprehend too much.

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Maekrix
Have either of you (Raistlin, Jolene) ever seen the movie "Donnie Darko"? Its about this teenager who sees this huge bunny with a twisted, demented face who predicts the coming end of the world. Weird things happen, like an air-plane engine falls into Donnie's house from the sky and it deals alot with time-travel, like the 4th dimension.

anyway, all you're talk about schitzoid and paranoia reminded me of it.


Oh, I also wanted to inform you (Jolene) that lie-detector tests only work if you know you're lying. So even if its not true and you fully believe it is true, it wouldn't detect you. So, therefore lie-detectors wouldn't be helpful in determining your story.
I personally don't believe in god. Thats my choice. But if you do, and if it helps you, then I'm truly glad. I really hope your problems resolve, and soon at that. Do know that I'm "Rootin for ya"!

G'luck
Jolene
QUOTE(Maekrix @ Dec 10 2004, 10:31 PM)
Have either of you (Raistlin, Jolene) ever seen the movie "Donnie Darko"? Its about this teenager who sees this huge bunny with a twisted, demented face who predicts the coming end of the world. Weird things happen, like an air-plane engine falls into Donnie's house from the sky and it deals alot with time-travel, like the 4th dimension.

anyway, all you're talk about schitzoid and paranoia reminded me of it.


Oh, I also wanted to inform you (Jolene) that lie-detector tests only work if you know you're lying. So even if its not true and you fully believe it is true, it wouldn't detect you. So, therefore lie-detectors wouldn't be helpful in determining your story.
I personally don't believe in god. Thats my choice. But if you do, and if it helps you, then I'm truly glad. I really hope your problems resolve, and soon at that. Do know that I'm "Rootin for ya"!

G'luck
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Your such a nice person Meaktrix. Thanks
I will return soon with more about this topic. I hope that you all are doing fine.
zudo
"A ghost wants to rape you!"

Who said that?
*turns around to find the culprit*
Jolene
QUOTE(zudo @ Dec 12 2004, 03:45 AM)
"A ghost wants to rape you!"

Who said that?
*turns around to find the culprit*
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don't quite understand your comment.
though I am interested in whats on your mind.
atrueoriginall
[quote=Jolene,Nov 26 2004, 01:59 PM]


Jolene: Read the topic "Incubus and Succubus" in the Ghosts and the Paranormal site posted December 12 by atrueoriginall. A lot of your experiences are there. Very common today. You're not alone.
Jolene
Hello, I would like to report the recent things going on with me.

This morning my covers were being pulled off my face. It was cold so I didn't want that. I grabbed them thinking that my husband was doing it. I glanced at him to find that he was still sleeping with his arms up with his hands under his head.
So I turned around. Later I awoke to my husband rushing into the room digging in my desk on my right side looking for something. I sat up and he dissapeared. I got up and went into the living room and looked at the time, he had been gone already for work for over an hour. I checked on my son in his room to see if he was still asleep, he was. I went to bed again.
I was soon awaken by my son coming into my room saying "Mommy fix me breakfast". I looked at him and said hold on. So I got up and followed him out of the room. When I glanced at the kitchen and back to where he stood, he wasn't there. I then went into his room to make him sit at the table for his breakfast.
I found him asleep in his bed.

Strange and annoying. It plays with me. I say find a toy not a person. Or atleast let me get some decent sleep.
Jolene
[quote=atrueoriginall,Dec 12 2004, 10:02 PM]
[quote=Jolene,Nov 26 2004, 01:59 PM]


Jolene: Read the topic "Incubus and Succubus" in the Ghosts and the Paranormal site posted December 12 by atrueoriginall. A lot of your experiences are there. Very common today. You're not alone.
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I thank you for the tip. I did do some research a while back about them and strangely one night after doing some reading on the topic, I saw some one cloked standing outside one of my windows looking into my room. I saw his shadow on my wall. I looked at the window and no one was there. I looked back and the shadow was still there facing me. I just turned around and went to sleep.

It seems to me that if you show and have no fear that they play with you instead of harming you. Once you show fear and actually have it, they pounce on you and harasse you till it hurts. Thats my personal experience. I just nolonger have fear now. I just let things happen. I will not back down and let these things get the best of me anymore. I have far more interesting and important things to do than to let them bother me to the extent that they were recently.

I am; however, interested in finding out more about what they or it wants with me, and why. I do appreciate knowledge on anything useful. So I thank you again for your advice.

Hope to hear from ya soon.
Jolene
I have a question.

Does anyone have any information on bad spirits and the sudden appearance of
thousands of flys?

I mean, I can't understand why these entites use flys. I don't know what it means.

It has happened before in my life. Thousands of fruit flys. These little buggers aren't small either.

What I mean is...... I feel something around me in the room and I since somethings going to happen. Something happenes and they appear.

One time, before I got married, I desided to spill all to my fiance about what has been haunting me.

He said that he believed me and we moved on, he agreed with me on the fact that sometimes things strange happenes.
He never experienced anything really.
Until he got close to me.
When he would sleep, something would come visit him at night. It would play music in his ear and hold him still. He sometimes would see it.
It was my suspician that my *friend* might come and play with him.
I informed him of this and he insisted that everything would be alright.
That it would never come in between us being together.

Soon after we actually moved in together, the first day, flys appeared out of nowhere. No windows were open. No holes in the walls. No nothing could have let them in. We at that time used an airconditioning unit and that too was sealed professionally. Nothing could get in from that window.

I am talking about thousands of flys sworming everywhere all of a sudden.
One moment we are talking in our little apartment and we see our ceiling is covered black. Then as we noticed them, they took off from the ceiling and went everywhere. There were so much that I could put out my hand and grab them in the air.
We handled the situation.
I sinced something was with us. I could feel it. Like a person standing in the room. Sometimes standing behind me.
I said something along the lines of it being around us and then my soon to be husband just looked at me with his mouth open.
I warned him " Are you sure you want to marry me? "
He said " Yes "
I told him that if he does, that he will experience things that he otherwise wouldn't believe existed.

Sure enough, in two days, after we just got married, we had company over, for a celebration.
Out of nowhere a horrible smell filled the apartment. This was vomite inducing.
Again we frantically looked around to find it's source and we found nothing.
We went outside to see if it was coming from there. It was a relief to be outside
away from the smell.
So obviously the smell wasn't coming from there.
Checked the oven. The bathroom. EVERYTHING.
Nothing was causing this horrible smell. It smelled like a combination of burnt tar
and rotted flesh. Horrible expired meat.
Undescribable I am trying. I even to this day can remeber it.

Any way.... I stood back and watched everyone gagging and frantically searching to rid of this thing. I realised that I had a previous experience with this kind of smell. I said " Hold a minute. I know what this is. Its the demon." They all looked at me at once and I was serious. Right then and there the smell vanished.
It was completely gone. Everyone concluded that I was right. That something did it. Why else would it disappear after saying so.

A long time went by before I had an experience similar to this one again.

I think that I mentioned a particular time when something like this happened before. Regarding the night something was abusing my mother and me getting up to care for her. During that night I had a wonderful experience of discovering thousands of huge flys in my kitchen, again camped out on the ceiling. As I looked at them, they started swarming everywhere. My mother's comment was " Jo Jo, flys sometimes show up when there is an evil presence around."


Again they paid me a visit when I was again about to get remarried.
I came to Houston for three days to visit my fiance before getting married.
I spent time with him at his job the first day. Then in the morning of the second day we drove up and found hundreds of thousands of huge fruit flys in the retail store.
This was amazing. They came from nowhere and were everywhere.
Astonished and overwhelmed we were. We admediately grabbed the doors to get rid of them; to let them exit.
We vacummed the air to catch these things. It was truely crazy.
I remeber just standing there and remebering what happened before my first marriage. I asked my fiance " Are you sure you want to marry me?"

I told him what was going on and he agreed that it had to be that. Even though he looked everywhere for another explanation. He found nothing. No possible explanation. He is the most practical humanbeing that I have ever met.
Very serious and inteligent.
Smarter than I.

Well..... I can tell of one other time something happened regarding a smell and my husband. My poor husband has been through soo much because of his association with me.
I will post more later.
I am sorry for being so late on doing so earlier. I had finals to see about. I am
going to be finished with my second quarter tomorrow.


If anyone has any information about evil presences accompanied with flys, please let me in on the info.
Tia
I think the flies are mentioned in the Amityville Horror story, maybe you could try looking at that. Maybe speak to any researchers who work in that field.
Eagleclan
Jolene- Many times young children are introduced to so called "friends" through what seemed at the time to be inncoccent games. The "friend" does come to you as a friend and a person invites them in to their home and their life. However, soon the games stop and the real reason for being your "friend" is revelled. I know many kids who played with Ougi Boards (didn't spell that right I know). Did you ever play with one? If so look backward into you childhood, maybe there is a clue to who this "friend" is. Knowledge is a strong tool.
Frogs
QUOTE(Jolene @ Dec 16 2004, 10:03 PM)
I have a question.

Does anyone have any information on bad spirits and the sudden appearance of
thousands of flys?


If anyone has any information  about evil presences accompanied with flys, please let me in on the info.
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For what its worth - Beelzebub is also known as "Lord of the Flies"
Jolene
QUOTE(Eagleclan @ Dec 19 2004, 08:54 AM)
Jolene- Many times young children are introduced to so called "friends" through what seemed at the time to be inncoccent games.  The "friend" does come to you as a friend and a person invites them in to their home and their life.  However, soon the games stop and the real reason for being your "friend" is revelled.  I know many kids who played with Ougi Boards (didn't spell that right I know).  Did you ever play with one?  If so look backward into you childhood, maybe there is a clue to who this "friend" is.  Knowledge is a strong tool.
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I believe that I have posted one of my experiences about the game. I will check if I have done so on this forum. If not I will post it here for you to read. It is pretty interesting.

I have had this*friend* since I was 7 years old. I did play with that game when I was 12 or 13 years old. It already was in my life. I have posted many stories and
experiences in the first 6 pages and some on the 7th one as well.
I thank you for your thoughts. I am afraid that the game isn't the sole reason for my problems. I wish that it was. hmm.gif
Jolene
QUOTE(Frogs @ Dec 20 2004, 03:51 PM)
QUOTE(Jolene @ Dec 16 2004, 10:03 PM)
I have a question.

Does anyone have any information on bad spirits and the sudden appearance of
thousands of flys?


If anyone has any information  about evil presences accompanied with flys, please let me in on the info.
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For what its worth - Beelzebub is also known as "Lord of the Flies"
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Wow.... that scares the hell out of me. The thought of that thing possibly having anything to do with my life sucks. I hope to God no.
About two weeks ago, I was doing some research on the subject and I came across a list of names of the known demons to us. The name Beelzebub came across to me as a stand out from all the rest. I will check out more about this one. I do believe it exists and its just like the rest of them. Its got to get of on tormenting people too.
Thank you very much.
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