I wanna ask the experts whats the difference between this two graphic editor.
If there's a program that combines these two, thats the one i am going to use.
I use psp because photoshop cannot do picture tubes.

I would have to say it's in the contexte, as Photo shop is made to work with photographic pictures, therefore it's made to retouch photos. In Paint Shop Pro the main functions are used to aimed toward "drawn" or "painted" pictures, more on the art side. But both work well with any support. It's all about the user really.

....ahhhh thanks ! im thinking, im might be missing something on photoshop.

I do graphic arts and I've noticed a lot of what can be done with Photoshop can be done with PSP if you really know the program well, though I still tend to use them both at once a lot of times since each has their perks.

I do not remember enough about Paint Shop Pro. I used to go from PSP and photoshop before because I could not find some things in Photoshop. But then the more I learned about photoshop, the more I let PSP go. You have everything you need in Photoshop, even more than what PSP do even for doing painted artwork. Perhaps they have a new version now...I would not know, I am going with my experience from 6 years ago. I only remember that I was waisting my time going from one software to another, Photoshop had a lot more to offer, so i sticked with that one.

if your searching anything in particular in Photoshop, you can ask. I know my way around pretty well. Its a very big software, so it can be hard at first to know every little detail.

what do you mean by Picture tubes? I am sorry I am french...I am not familiar with that term...

I myself am an advocate of Photoshop. Ecspecially CS. Paint shop pro is to me an immitation. Sure, it has it's strengths and weaknesses. they both do. But Photoshop has been in the game longer, and has been a stronger programs longer than paint shop, who has changed companies a few times, and been drastically revamped. I tend to go with the stability and ease of photoshop, but I say that only because I have been using it since Version 1.0.

Damned that was awhile ago. I believe my computer I ran it on was a 100Mhz Macintosh power PC, running system 7.5.5 OS. It was a fun computer, for sure. Nothing compared to my Self-built 32-bit AMD chipset system though, which now runs at a cool 2.6Ghz.

*takes a puff of a cigarette* We've come a long way, baby!

Wanna see what you can do with Photoshop in regards to photo touching?

Or How about it's powers of painting?


Take a look!


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(photoshop painting)

I can't upload the gif of the photoshop painting because it is over a meg.

The definition of a lie is the following:

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bloddy hell

If you want to painfully serach for it yourself on a site with hundered and hundereds of images like I did, go to www.ebaumsworld.com

And here's something that delights me to no end to see:


Trumped up stars without their makeup looking like the everyday trash they really are.

Look at these pictures and tell me that it's okay to like people who pretend to be something that they are not, and support them by buying their prodects.

Tell me it's okay for young girls to listen to Britney Spears and that she doesn't paint an unfair picture of what women should look like.

Personally, I hope they all get shot in the face while they sleep. I mean, makeup is one thing, but waering a mask is completely different.

And girls: Don't think you have to hide your imperfections to be liked. Your true love will love you regardless of what you look like. The chinese celebrate inperfections as beauty (Raku pottery anyone?) But I guess if your a whore who wants nothing but sex you might as well fake it all like Bitchney Queers.[attachmentid=8772][attachmentid=8773][attachmentid=8774][attachmentid=8775][attachmentid=8776]

Well, a picture tubes is like a .gif files, no background or transparent but you cannot save a photograph on graphic interchange format because it has only 256 colors (gif). Let us say that you wanted to cut your picture using a marque or lasso tool, if you click copy then paste then you have your photo on transparent background. You can save this photo as picture tube so next time you need that photo you don't have to do the marque or lasso tool again. In photoshop there is a white background so you have to use the magic wand then invert to copy that pic again. Thats the difference, and also theres lot of ready picture tubes around for free. Thats why im sticking to psp and funny that i use my photoexpress if i need something rather than photoshop. I think when you get used to your editor that's the one you always use. And i think photoshop was really for graphic artist or experts only.

NOTE: download picture tubes then drag it to psp file under tubes.

oh yeah ! we all need help.
Is there a possibility to convert photoshop filters so i can use it on psp?
You see, if i need a filter i have to use photoshop.
What i wanted is: all my filters on one file. (forget PICO coz i dont wanna pay)

I find Fireworks MX 2004 to be better than either of them. It all depends on what you're looking for, what you need, how you use it, and which is more comfortable.

I wanted to get that one too. I wanted all great graphic editor. But i don't wanna pay. I used it as a hobby and not for profits.

*laughs* Never pay!

I sure don't.

Have you heard of Bit Torrent? It's a new method of sharing files. If you learn how to use it, you will be able to download fireworks MX 2004 in a day, maybe two.

PS Don't use kazaa k++ lite to find it, or else all you will get is viruses, backdoors, and a massive headache.

If you have trouble finding it, post me back and I'll download it for you and then send it to you personally. It's worth it. Plus, I live to pirate software, so I really don't mind doing it for you. It'll make a nice addition to my archives.

Bit Torrent isn't new. I've been using it for ages. There is a better version out now called BitComet...come on "Mr. Pirate" get with the program

I just get the trials from the site and use Google to find the serial number. Although, those serial number sites are really REALLY dodgey.

*worships photoshop and even has a little alter for it in her closet*



finding a crack for any serial number needed program is really sketchy honestly those so called "key-gens" are just randomizing random numbers untill they find something that works. there really isnt a pattern

ive never used PSP, i use photoshop mainly because of school, and i got it from the software fairies but id like to try it

Thanks guys for giving me ideas but i had enough of cracks.
All i want is the full version of macromedia (flash, fireworks, dreamweaver) in a CD. I know i could get it but im not in a hurry. Thanks for the offer.

"Bit Torrent isn't new. I've been using it for ages. There is a better version out now called BitComet...come on "Mr. Pirate" get with the program"

As have I, but you'd be amazed at how many people have never heard of it, let alone know how it works. And yes, bit comet is superior to the old bit torrent in many ways.

Try it, its fun ! Better to know all the software than sticking into one.
I started on photoshop V5 then transfered to photo express and to another one (i forgot) then tried micrographix then psp then photoshop V7 now im back to psp.

yup, it is.
btw, is bit tornado any good?
i've heard of it, but never got around to trying it...

Photoshop is industrial grade, pretty much the professional, and best image editing software you can buy or download. You can do ANYTHING, the possibility is limitless, making PSP and all other imitations look like scum. Sure, PSP is great for new users, but once you want some real power, Photoshop is the tool to use!

If you do decide for Photoshop -- I don't really care what method you get it with -- I reccomend going to your local library and taking out a copy of the Photoshop classroom in a book, books. I read quite a few interesting things that I should have known ages ago, it's a great tutorial and help book.

The bottom line: Adobe is the god of image editing, they've been around the block a few times and Photoshop CS is the best version yet.

You can have a transparant background in Photoshop as well. When you copy your selection. Open a new document, you willl have the choice at the bottom on ''contents'' to either have a white background (wich is there by default), the background color or transparancy.

Dont bother resizing the picture, If you have indeed copy your picture, the size of the new document will automaticly be the size you need. The you paste, and there you go

Hope that helps

also I just wanted to add. I am a colorist by trade. I do not do any Photo editing in Photoshop. I have always and will always use it as a Coloring software. Btw for cool filters....you may want to check out Eyecandy

no idea......I wish I could tel you.

But I still stand that watherver you need, Photoshop as it...just have to find it

.....

being a fervent admirer of photsohop.....I was curious...

I think you said you use both to work a document. What format do you save it too? Depending on wich one, you may loose quite a lot of quality to the picture.
If you work entirely in Photoshop, you work in is format wich is high quality, then you size it down to a jpeg or else. This way you do not loose any quality at all. It does not give the best result to work directly on a jpeg...

I stand my ground that photoshop is the way to go. would suggest bying a book or taking a little course. You will soon drop PSP. I did anyways...

another question. I do not know wich version of PSP you are using. But do you have the ability to have layers and to manipulate them seperatly? I know they did not at the time I used it. If they still dont then you are missing on quite a lot of amazing effects that photoshop can provide.

and still by curiousity, for what purpose do you use these software?

Fireworks isn't necissarilly for image editing, it's totally geared towards making web graphics and pixel art, that's the big thing Photoshop has advantage over. But, Fireworks, if mastered, can be use to make an entire website without the usage of any HTML or WYSIWYG programs. In a sense, Fireworks is the all in one site buidling program. I still use Dreamweaver for making my site, though.

Well, i don't really stick to one program. It depends on what i do. If i do simple graphics, psp was enough. If i need filters (like eyecandy, superblade pro,uleadart texture,jama3d,kang,krust,harrys ohhh.lots) then i use photoshop. And probably if i learn the web then i use fireworks or photoimpact. If i need 3D animation then i use Xara3D .... theres lots of it. I just wonder why the expert never say something.

what do you mean?

Never give us any idea if we miss on something about graphic editing.
Or maybe they are busy.

I dont know if I would call myself expert, but I do know photoshop very well and make a living with it daily.

I have left PSP long ago, so I cant help you there. But as before I have found that everything you have in PSP can be found in Photoshop.

I know as a fact that many comic book artist use Photoshop, many Graphic Illustrator will too, Photoshop can be used to in webdesign...altough not to best, and of course photographers and more that I just dont know.

Many people think that it is only for picture editing....wich is a wrong assumption. Many people do drawing from scartch with it, and it is absolutly amazing what they do. The only other software that I think is better than Photoshop for Illustration is Adobe Illustrator. Still same company. I do not use it because I found it hard to work with.....well to be honest I just did not have the time to learn it

Get second opinion if you can, but for me, Photoshop all the way

I am not trying to tell which one is the best one. I am enquiring from the expert.
The expert i considered was the one doing the programs. We are only users (not unless you are a programmer). Picture tubes cannot be found on Photoshop. Can Photoshop paste a ready cleaned image of anything in just one click of a mouse without going back to the process of doing Lasso tool? If you are doing this for a living it doesn't mean you're an expert. How about the hobbyist who do it for pleasure without pressure. Anyone who do graphics editing knows the function of every paint programs. We are not here to show our skills but to learn more from the expert point of view.

yes it can!





I did not say I was, I said I work with it...if you want to speak with the programmer of these software...then why did you post your question in a paranormal forum

Go to there website, I am sure they have a support service and they will be more than willing to help you out

Be well,

ThePortal

Sorry ! i don't wanna make war with you.
I have no time to go anywhere else because im working 12 hours everyday.
And this is only my diversion.
I'll be happy if Saruman will delete this post if not related to paranormal.
PEACE !!!

no war , GOOD


Peace to you too, and good luck

haha yer my friend downloaded it then gave it to me now iw ant flash and sims 2 from her lol

and i dont know basically anythng aboot photoshop lol let alone how to use it or which is better!

Photoshop=graphics
PSP=photos

(I think)

I use PSP7 but I wanna get Photoshop.