Sorry but i had to put this topic, i put it on my last forum and it caused huge arguments, lets see what you guys think of it.

I think someday there could be an alien invasion, but thats just me.

Well, i guess it would promote the conversation a bit if you would explain yourself bit more in detail.
Why do you believe there will be an alien invasion?

Crop circles, bovine disembowelments, abductions, implants, sightings, etc etc etc. The same nonsense they've been spewing since 1950.

Exactly mad manfred, they're are just staking us out the now, looking at the planet. But soon it will come and we will, have to fight.
Well actually probably not us, i doubt it will happen in our life time.

Well if they (how ever they are) wanted to take over the planet there isn't nothing we could do about it. If they can travel across star systems how much easier would it be to take out a group that hasn't even master space travel yet. I think its our ego that makes us think that they would want to travel all that way to kick our @ss. They are here and have been here as long as we have walked upright and I don't think they are going no where. It's just to big for such a primitive being to get there minds around the whole thing and till we do, we are not invited to the party. If you understood where we are in the galaxy you would know that there is probably better places that are much closer to pick on, plus why go all that distance to take a abused plant.

They probably will invade (in a small force though) and form an alliance with the righteous humans in the final war.

Hey athenian, I don't think this is about righeous humans. If this was a reason to invade then they have had more then enough reason to do so in our short history. I think we confuse our religous believes with this topic. I think they are just another creature that shares the universe with us and nothing more. They are not gods even if we have thought they were or anything like that, but more advanced "yes".

Well they must be good people then right? I would not expect an immoral civilization to advance very far would you? I mean they would probably only invade for a good and just reason. If for any other purpose than they would not have advanced so far to reach our planet. Also, Do not forget how long it would take for them to get here and conclude if they suspected something suspicous about us or our planet.

In one Native American prophecy it states of a object in space stopping to observe the Earth, And after observing all the crap and hell that goes on and has happened here, It unleashes its wrath.

Heh, Would you stand by and watch a friend of yours suffer?

Well primative minds wish to solve there problems through combat and I would think that advance beings would want to use there intelligance to solve its or others problems. As far as your native americain story beating someone for being bad does not teach them nothing or to be good it only makes them afraid , so whats the good in that. I think any civilization that wishes to advance has to leave behind its childish emotions of greed, hate ,racism, ego and fear or they will not make it. they would destroy themselves before they could make it to the level of intelligance to where they could fully appreciate there place in the cosmos. To you statement "would you stand by and watch a friend of yours suffer?". You are your brothers keeper. I also beleive good and bad is merely prospective. Righteousess in the eyes of GOD is another thing.

Fear not my Um Buddies! Don't be afraid about our planet's future! There have never been Aliens on earth! Crop circles are fake. It's proved that it's just people whit no future that have maid them! Those who have seen aliens lies! ...It's only Abductions that scares me a little... But they are sure dreams! Now! No worries people, no worries

Hey pie eater, You are very young aren't you, Well I'm glad you like pie my young friend because there may be a day in your lifetime that you just might have to eat crow pie lol. With an open mind you have a chance to grow and with a closed one you are just walking around in the dark lost and confused.

So it would seem. But its really the Rapture of the church.
UFOs operated by the divine beings of the Bible will come
and collect the christians.

I for one believe aliens have already "invaded". That they have existed here for many, many years. Many of my fellow christians would take up arms for me saying that, but as far as I have learned it coincides with scripture completely. As to what aliens truely are, that is up for debate (As is their existance.)

But I have seen overwhelming evidence of them already being here on planet earth. And yes, I do think one day the public humanity will have to confront them.

As far as the "evidence" I have seen, I am not referring to the constant blather that started since roswell. I am more concerned about what the government has covered up, only to later reveal was true.

Once you detect the pattern of lies they use, you can start to see the big picture, and debunk lies they are currently using. Remember, the main reason to keep aliens hidden from the public is to prevent mass-hysteria, or a breakdown of the system. Those who control the system, and those not prone to the hysteria, have been allowed certain information.

Eisenhower for one....

Don't be afraid about our planet's future!

But fear of the unknown is what prevents us from the disaster of it.


There have never been Aliens on earth!

It's easy to say that, but impossible to prove it.


Crop circles are fake. It's proved that it's just people whit no future that have maid them!

No, it's been proven that SOME circles are fake. Infact, many high level quantum physicists have been able to reproduce a vortex energy that is theorized in making them. ALso, most crop circles appear on what are called "Ley lines", which are lines of power. More a further explination, do the reasearch your self.

Those who have seen aliens lies!

Who are you to condemn the accounts of thousands of people? Is your mental prowess so adept that it can distinguish between truth and lies of literally thousands of people? Because I sure can't.

...It's only Abductions that scares me a little... But they are sure dreams!

What is a dream?

Further more, what of the implants that are being CONSTANTLY found inside victums of abduction? Is every single one of these a hoax?

I think something very real is happening. It is up to the public to investigate, because our government has tight lips.



Now! No worries people, no worries

Don't worry, be happy. But the path of a wise man is not one of happiness.

My age does'nt matter Ninj... (Sigh) Tis a sad state when people has no hope and think that the Aliens is coming here just because they have seen some crop circles and stuffs... Belive in whatever you guys want... I don't...

Hey pie eater, You make me proud that you stand by what you believe, good on you. But when you make statements like "Fear not my Um Buddies! Don't be afraid about our planet's future! There have never been Aliens on earth! Crop circles are fake. It's proved that it's just people whit no future that have maid them! Those who have seen aliens lies! ...It's only Abductions that scares me a little... " You kinda set yourself up for someone to say something, ok. The facts are that many people have seen many things and are just trying to understand what is going on. You being as young as you are, you should be able to seethings with eyes that have not been corrupted by the world. So I tell ya read read read and you just might be amazed in what you find.

Aliens are here, people just don't realize it. I'm suprised no one has seen whats going on.. who knows how long it's been that way too.

...Look Ninj, thank you for you're compliment!
I'm just saying: "Aliens are fake untill I see proof!" I'm not too hasty you know...

Something is coming for us in the near future what it is, is yet to been seen or known. And if it's something we can't take care of i'm just gonna get drunk as and pass out. That way i don't know what happens to me if it's the end for us. I'll be in lala land.

lol, zoltan I never thought of that hehehe. That is not a bad idea and of it does hit the fan I'll crack one here and think of you my friend, cheers.

Is wierd theories around here. Yes.
Coyote surpriesd.


So, ECC think aliens are here.
Norman think alien = angel
Zoltan thinks something coming whatever is

I side with Banana man.
Is no proof that they visiting our planet. Is probably just
a common thingy. Yes.
Is connected to entertainment industry! Aha. Yes.

i think an invasion would be unlikely---.

if you have the technology to traverse the vast distance of space with any kind of speed--- wouldn't their technology would be at a point where they would need nothing from earth or the human race????

they could have nano-bots, and atomic manufacturing technology or something of that sort. being able to literally make anything--so what could they want from earth that would make it worth the trip ??-- i'm thinking --not much--LOL


kinda like driving from LA to new york for a cop of coffee??--LOL

Maybe they are just exploring, who knows. Intelligent beings just want to know what else is there, it is a part of personal growth. Then again our ego just might make us think that they are coming to see us and maybe we aren't even the main reason for them to come here. As far as "are they coming or are they here" there is just to much info out there that can't be explained. One that comes to mind right away is a picture I seen a long time ago of an object in the sky in china around the 1890's I think taken by a early camera. People in the photo are looking up at it so..... This was back before the big craze on the topic and there would be no reason to fake the photo. This example is just one of countless things that can be brought up on this issue. We can only speculate on there reasoning for doing what ever they are doing because we can only see it from our point of view. Who knows there motives and what they would even be looking for anyway, right.

I wouldn't think we could win an interstellar battle unless the govt has been holding out on us and has some really nice toys hid away someware.

On a serious note... I feel the theory of God as being a multifaceted life form is scientificaly true and the Aliens are beings that are yet some of God's other creations is probably a kewl direction to speculate. I have on many occasions actually tried to communicate with "GOD" and on every occasion have had a strange form of a seemingly reasonable reply???... WEIRD HUGH?? but for over 30 years it seems to be a flawless response, if you just know what to listen for in your mind, soul and think to absorb it. In a matter of moments it makes sense. (Prayer is a fancy word for communicating with a higher plane of life) On an evolutionary scale I feel there are many levels of advancement in different areas of the Universe. All of which are part of Gods other projects. Inevitably when two life forms make contact there will be eventual cross DNA modifications. Thus leading to inter spatial improvements. Futuristically, this seems something for mankind to look forward to. I wish in my time I could meet a girl from another world. I would learn her customs and her history and in general ways and mannerisms and then we would become close friends of the universal cosmos. Perhaps we would decide to create a DNA modification of our 2 separate beings... Ahhh I have been wishing for that for over 46 years... maybeee someday... but I do love and trust God as the creator. A mind so vast we could only ponder to strive to be there someday within the realm of our existence. who knows... maybe promotion in the tree of life can be within self improvement in oneself and your accomplishments??
Hmmmmm...

Just vecause you think something is fake doesn't mean it exists. Besides, even if you did see "proof", how do you know you will believe it? I have seen "proof", and it took me a very long time before I was able to accept what I learned as factual.

"if you have the technology to traverse the vast distance of space with any kind of speed--- wouldn't their technology would be at a point where they would need nothing from earth or the human race?"

A common deception. Aliens are not what most people believe them to be. Their interest with the human race is purely malevolent. They are dangerous. They are powerful. But our most powerful world leaders seek to understand and harness the power for themselves. And they are.

To understand the true nature os these so called "visitors", you have to throw out every last big of hollywood propoganda, and everything you think you know about aliens.

"So it would seem. But its really the Rapture of the church.
UFOs operated by the divine beings of the Bible will come
and collect the christians."

This is fallacy. The rapture is a highly debatable subject, and the majority of us do not believe it is biblical whatsoever. God would need no physical transport to pick our immortal souls as our bodies do not go to heaven.

I wouldn't think we could win an interstellar battle unless the govt has been holding out on us and has some really nice toys hid away someware.
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[/quote] I hate to say it would be like giving a chimp a gun and then having a shoot out with it. The chimp might have the fire power but wouldn't know what to do with it. I am not anti human its just that they would be just so much more advanced then us that all. from looking at our past you would see that all primate groups have always been over run by more advance groups, its just the facts .

They are here to take some minerals from us, one being copper. Copper is a vital resource for thier technological advances, mainly the containment of electromagnetic radiation waves. Some sources suggests that the Dulce base are using this to power thier gravitational "lifts" (elevators). Imagine dropping down from the 10th floor to the ground floor in say....a second, and without the barriers of air pressure, woolala.

And this is just one of the many things they want from this planet....and us too. There's even another link towards thier so-called plan of supressing the knowledge regarding the ever-approaching ascension time event, this planet and the whole of our solar system is heading to, from reaching us. But erm....I guess we'll speak about this next time.

Hello ninj ,

I don't know whether you meant it intentionally or not regarding your statements, but you are right. The gov. is indeed holding not just some, but apparently quite a many number of extremely advanced (well only towards the public community that is) interstellar weapons in order to battle this space parasites. But note, this are not attacking-based weapons, but merely self-defense type of weapons. They cannot and are not able to launch a very massive all-out attack towards thier bases scattered around this system, but we can prevent them from directly invading our planet. Still, if the aliens have a huge space armada approaching us....we'll be in big trouble then.

Oh and yeah, the interstellar battle is not coming, as it is and has already taken place for years now. The govt are keeping up thier fantastic diversional plans extremely well, but not for long I hope.

I hear ya engulf but I just posted in another thread that all they would have to do to beat us is release a nasty alien virus/bio weapen on us and that would be it for us. Like I said in the other thread just take a small group of craft flying very fast all over the planet and release the virus into the air and that would be it for us and with out firing a shot. sad but I believe this would be an easy way for them to win. Heck if I was able to do this to my enemy I would use this tactic, all you'd need is a small force and lots of the nasty little viruses.

Howdy again ninj ,

Yup, you're extremely right. Like why go all the hassle to bring your ships here while you can just release those viruses and turn us to helpless suckers?

But here's a note, the govt (the elites) do have strategic defense weapons just outside our planet's boundary and would shoot down any incoming craft (identified & targeted ones) within a certain measure of distance. And one cannot just simply release the virus somewhere close (so to speak) to the planet because it will not penetrate our environment without the right type of penetration. Besides, one cannot just commence an attack on another civilization, for it is a violation towards the Federation (and probably inciting other races too). But, should the bio-chem weapon be launched within our planet......

But this is just one, you may be right ninj, for we must not forget that they certainly have a better knowledge regarding this compared to our primitive minds, no? So....c'mon aliens, let us all live in peace ok? What good does one get with wars under spiritual and awareness terms? Are we not all one with the Cosmic Consciousness? (Sigh)

^^ Hey engulf, your forgetting the most easiest way of gaining control. Silent invasion I.E. using corruption to get what they want, hypothetically to explain this heres a little scenario:

Aliens land at a american airforce base and negotiate a "technology for land" deal. Americans accept thinking about all that juicy gadgets they'll get. Aliens build bases within the states, whilst they are doing this they also make deals with americas enemies, say the soviet union(presuming that this happens during the cold war). Same deal, aliens build bases there. Then they build more bases as they give away more secrets, then they get there sticky suction capped fingers into politics and economy, giving resources/tech for laws bill and agreements. Once they have the governments completely in their hands...BANG, they give the order for total takeover. With government heads promised land and money if they agree to total takeover and enslavery, aliens take over the world with out pretty much lifting a gun. Then again it does depend on the level of intelligence the aliens possess. >_> don't know why they haven't thought of this sooner..

I don't think aliens would invade earth... I mean, have there even been stories of aliens being hostile?

Only adbuctions and such, thats just general curiousity and research. But I think there is a bigger chance for peace than war..

Yes, check out Search for "human mutilations" on the forum.
(i'm too lazy to search for you.)

OH NO...!! NOT ANOTHER UFO STORY!!
TRUE AND VERIFIED MANY YEARS LATER BY MY FATHER!
Back in 1970 in "Lebanon" Eastern Connecticut at about 8 PM. My neighbors (all younger folks 6 total) no more than 16 years of age, observed a glowing red light in the field across the street from our houses.
There were a total of 6 kids that witnessed the initial event.
We got my dad and my big brother, my self and the boy neighbor to approach the object that was approx 300 yards away.
at about 100 yards we stopped and witnessed the craft to rise to about 10 feet above the ground. After 30 seconds it started to move away very slowly across the field, eventually picking a rapid escape to the South West, then quickly travelling so fast and so far away the dot of light disappeared into the night sky.
I will never forget that night, as it made not a sound. The next day I walked to the spot and found the
.tall grass trampled where the object hovered. This perhaps as if something got out and was walking around the area to look around.
Ya know, everyone has a secret... What this strange flying machine was or who it belonged to will be a lifelong mystery. (but hovering and flying silently??)
If thats our government testing future a travel then we have had anti grav for a very long time. As for US weapons, I stay up on the latest (released info) and we have working particle weapons. I don't think the visitors at this point in time mean us any harm, however I do believe that to a point they feel we need a little guidance with our runaway technology verses social maturity ratio. They would love to see our young society make it like they themselves have somehow managed to survive. Can you imagine if our alien were in the past involved in some sort of war between them and another world? The scenario might read as:
World one, in defense of their planet has accidentally la to spell world two in a pure defensive measure!! Now feeling terrible at the outcome, they might be on a quest to help other worlds form making the same horrible mistake!
As evolution and time goes, we are a very young society. We are still cringing when we see someone of different color of skin tone than ours. Still we might stereotype a culture simply by looks or a name??
We are immature children in the great scheme of the cosmos.
Our most likely ally might be the curious "Greys" who are frantically attempting to learn our race to perhaps protect us from worse things to come.
In the scheme of things, for example at a place of employment. You will meet those in charge simply for the fact they have been around the biz long enough to follow thru and teach underlings. Then you meet friends and co-workers who are complacent at showing up and doing their thing and helping each other as a team. Then there will always be the 1 BAD apple. The person at work who has no respect for other folks and gets away with it for some unknown reason.
We must learn in the workplace to get around these learning obstacles. In real life on a planetary scale I truly believe we have some friends out there who are striving to help us thru the future times when the bad apple decides to come around earth and attempt to take advantage of us as a immature society. I have observing the night sky since I was 10 years old. I then moved on to college where I studied Aviation Technology and propulsion. I remember when one of my favorite teachers got off the track on a personal theory of anti grav! He was kewl!
In our physics class it seemed so elementary of a concept. I believe we have mastered anti grav but the government chooses not let it out.
I am at the point where in the night sky, I can identify just about every traveling light source within 10 seconds, (being educated in the advanced field of aviation)
I still find as much as 10% of the time, observed of the night sky I still after all these years come up with U.F.O.s. There has got to be some things traveling the airspace that I cant explain. Is it Government projects?... Is it our friends going about their business??
One ponders the ever unfolding mystery...
I believe we are very close in time to discovering some extremely interesting facts about our space brothers, the reason they are helping us by discovery and perhaps some very near future education in the hostile races that have yet to reach us due to the policing of our friends.
We got "Good Guys" and unfortunately "Bad guys" out there to contend with.
I pray I see the time when we officially meet our Universal brothers. I feel the time now extremely soon...
Keep the faith Earth brothers. the time is near
I have a real quick UFO story to share:
In 1972 (approx) in Lebanon, Connecticut, Our local small town lawyer however whos integrity was incredible, "Royale Woodward" witnessed a strange vehicle hovering in his barnyard. Mr. Woodward having to go number one, looked out his back door of the barn to see a very kewl object hovering a few yards away form him. Thinking they were perhaps the government spying on his business affairs, raised his pitchfork and poked at the vehicle making it go away form his peperty.
Typical New England Lawyer/Farmer Response!
I enjoy everybodys input but would like to read a few personal contact stories as well. Bear in mind my stories are completely accurate to the finest detail. It makes no sense to lie in this forum. We need to educate ourselves in this ever changing world. The world is a much bigger place than we ever can imagine...
PS. I am not a writer who has delusions of Grandeur. I am Science enthusiest with a Federal licence to maintain aircraft. My dream is to understand how these anti grav vehicles accomplish such feats as hovering silently, move about at 17.000 MPH (documented) and of course the occupants of such can overcome the "G " force involved in such maneuvers.
Talk at ya soon!
Rodeee

Yeap mate, you're very right. But I thought we were speaking about the depopulation technique used by those , argh....



Hello Rodeee ,

Anyway I heard that supposedly the Clementine probe was indeed, actually a particle beam weapon, sent up there as part of the Star Wars program (or SDI). I was wondering if you could verify this for me? And if possible, maybe even extending & sharing your knowledge regarding this with me, if you don't mind that is....



That is very true I'm afraid to say. Here we're still using fossil-fueled "products", and with them suppressing the whole idea from us ......

(Besides, if I'm not mistaken, Tesla had a son right? Where is he currently? )

if aliens wanted to take over planet earth they would of done it by now

I believe they would not attack us but if they wanted to there isn't a damn thing we could do about it,this is all im saying. I could come up with a ton of scenarios on how to take over but the easiest way sometime works the best. like for instants heres one for you, first take out all our satellites with some kind a long range weapon second take out our radars and land based communication, now that these are gone the worlds armies would be useless. Then avoid mayor concentrations of enemy forces then do the virus release as I spoke of before and then wait for it to do its job. Then send in a recon mission to see what kind a resistance is there if any is found take it out and once this is done come down and setup shop. But like I said this would never happen because if they wanted to do something along these lines they would have done it by now or back before we had the abilities to do what we could do now. I agree that there must be somekind of Federation out there that wont let this happen and I also believe that aggression comes from a primate speices and the more advance it gets it either kills itself or grows past this behaviour.

What if they invaded the Earth and wanted to take over using melee combat and had some honorary warriors code that laid out the rules of warfare? As to not harm the Earth or the wrong people using WMDs... Then what?

If they wanted to destroy us with evil intentions they would not even need to touch our planet. They would just fire one huge WMD at Earth and that is it.

well in that scenario, do the same thing I state above but instead of the virus take out all electronics with a emp and that would stop all armies. I wouldn't think they would care of what we think is as you put it wrong people, that is just how we see thing and not how they would see it. What every they would use to beat us it wouldn't be a wmd because there would be nothing for them either.

Before we establish aliens' intentions, we must first of all accept as axioms two very important parameters.
1) Intelligent life forms DO exist
2) They ARE capable of interstellar travel.

If we assume that the above mentioned are correct, then we have to try (and I believe it's a really theoretical guess) and establish what kind of motives they would have. If we try to apply our own sociological and psychological approach (which is the only thing we can do) we could reach the conclusion that a civilization who has advanced as much as being able for interstellar travels, has to be advanced mentlally and sociologically as well, with the obvious goal of mature to the level that does not need war to solve differences (if such a thing would have sense for them). And therefore, they would have no reason to attack other civilizations. Us, that is...

Well if we are alone, then that is one hell of a big back yard hehehe. I would be shocked if we are alone nature just doesn't waste like that in my opinion and like I said before we are new comers to this universe and anything that was here before us would by now have the technology to do space travel. Just look how far we have come since the wright brothers and that has been only a hundred years and where will we be in the next hundred. Now think of something that has been here even just 5 thousand years before us , it would look like magic. What would a person from say 90 a.d. think of an f-22 raptor (magic).

From Outerspace or Mexico?

What if Earth was the only suitable planet they find worth conolizing?

I think that Aliens have already spread into all the planets that are suitable for life...except Earth, so they might just take it from us and claim it for them.

I have to fully agree with your scenario. You obviously know some of the things I know.

This argument comes to full contradiction with the theorem that says: "Earth is not unique, there must be incalculable other worlds out there, packed with alien life forms." If Earth is unique, as you suggest, then automatically we'd assume that there are no other life forms. If it is not unique, thus assuming that there are plenty of other life forms, intelligent ones that is, then equally we must accept that there are many other "suitable planet for colonizing"

Yea, but have yall ever though that we might be more advanced in some areas of technology than the aleins?

Like, say they don't have water on there planet. Then our navel power would be stronger then theres.

Or say they are small and not as powerful as we are. Then if they try to battle us on the ground our troops will have the advantage.

Or say there atmosophere is alot lightier than ours and there technology crushes under the weight of ours.

The fact is we don't know what kind of technology the aleins have. They might not have the elements to create explosives, but they might have some type of rescourse that we could never dream of.

We just don't know.

Lochness hunter this is all true but as far as "say they are small and not as powerful as we are. Then if they try to battle us on the ground our troops will have the advantage" I say"never fight a pig in a pigpen 'cause you both get covered in Sh*t but only one of you like it, and as far as naval battle. One a flighing craft has an advantage over a ship ever time, and two its goes back to if they can fly that far im sure boating won't be to hard a task.

If the aliens learned space flight before us then their technology is far more advanced then ours.

Boeing in England, two years ago annouced that they had produced a fully working anti gravity engine. And production of the first anit-grav craft would be ready in 5 years. It had a very small column (miniscule, considering that this sort of thing should be front page news.) in The Sun. Since then however nothing has been said.