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LoneWeatherWolf
I am a witch i told few of my friends...they never believed me....They started teasing me when they don't know how delicate this matter is...Some took it seriously...most did not. I feel lonely Help me what should i do...i need to talk with a fellow witch crying.gif .... I am 11 yrs old and i have no idea what to do....No I am a good witch sender of god and came here to do good....I control the weather.... yes it may sound strange and stupid to you but the weather depends on my mood...But i made a promise never to let this balance go out of order.....And let nature take weather smoothly......But still so much many do not understand as so have i not understand...Help me please... sad.gif Here a poll for people to take if you believe me or not...
Novo
A Wiccan or witch to my understanding is not someone with magical powers. But one who bends the laws of reality in some shape or form. "Do ye no harm, then do as ye wish"
Darkwind
I have seen Witches effect the weather. Usually on purpose. I don't mess with it myself. It can cause a lot of trouble.
Are you sure it is not your mood that is determined by the weather. That is a more likely case. How much have you studied magic? How long have you been a Witch? Are your parents Witches? Fear not you will learn and grow and find control. original.gif
Diebytheflyguy
Witches, or anybody else can't control the weather. Come on now.

And at 11, your friends displayed the perfect reaction for their age. They probably think your one of those witches you see on halloween.

Suggestions? Don't tell young kids that your a witch, because they will make fun of you.

Do you know what you are exactly. Have you studied witchcraft, or did you one day decide that your a witch? If not, maybe you should wait until your older to become more serious, and informed about witchcraft?

Don't worry about the teasing, they're only joking around, and won't do it for long. thumbsup.gif
Insight
Eleven years old? ELEVEN?!?!?!?! Seriously now, if you were in my position, would you believe yourself?? I mean, come on!!!

I'm going to have to fully agree with DieByTheFlyGuy on this one. I have trouble taking anyone under the age of 17 seriously at all, simply because I know what I myself was like at those ages.

No one, and I mean no one at that age has an accurate take on reality. Hell, most people in the entire world don't. But if there is ANYONE who can control the whether, it certainly IS NOT the 11 year old witches. You'd be best off playing with toys and video games like the rest of the childrem than studying the arcane powers of witchcraft.

Come back to me in ten years, and tell me what you think about what you just said. I guarentee it will be different. In fact, I'll bet my life on it.
Insight
You know what your problem is? You're letting the weather it's self affect your mood. If you become sad at the first sign of rain, how can you say that it rains when you are sad, and you are controlling it. I think weather is controlling YOU!

You've been watching Men in Black 2 waaaaaay too much!
brittish_gurl
QUOTE(Insight @ Dec 1 2004, 04:42 PM)
Eleven years old? ELEVEN?!?!?!?! Seriously now, if you were in my position, would you believe yourself?? I mean, come on!!!

I'm going to have to fully agree with DieByTheFlyGuy on this one. I have trouble taking anyone under the age of 17 seriously at all, simply because I know what I myself was like at those ages.

No one, and I mean no one at that age has an accurate take on reality. Hell, most people in the entire world don't. But if there is ANYONE who can control the whether, it certainly IS NOT the 11 year old witches. You'd be best off playing with toys and video games like the rest of the childrem than studying the arcane powers of witchcraft.

Come back to me in ten years, and tell me what you think about what you just said. I guarentee it will be different. In fact, I'll bet my life on it.
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You never know insight.................
theomegacode
I agree with brittish_gurl on that. Insight, first off you know nothing about LoneWeatherWolf except what they told you. You don't know if they have an accurate take on reality or not. You can assume they don't but you can't just go right out and say no one at that age does. First ask questions and make your bashes or whatever based on that. Personally I don't know if LoneWeatherWolf can control weather but it's possible.

What I'm getting at is don't tell people what they can or can't do based on their age, gender, religion, etc. Especially if you don't know anything about them.
Raistlin Majere
It's not like Wicca is an ancient religion or anything, it was made by some guy in the 50's. Oh, and you're not supposed to tell non wiccans that you're a wiccan.

It's one of their rules.

Also, you have to take in account that not everybody is like most their age. I'm 13, I have an IQ of 151, got a 1271 on my SAT1 at 11, and I'm being monitored by John Hopkins University.
theomegacode
Wow. You beat me in IQ by 5 points 3 years ahead. Then again the IQ test I took was online.........
Raistlin Majere
Mine's been funded for by John Hopkins.
Insight
QUOTE(Raistlin Majere @ Dec 1 2004, 06:57 PM)
It's not like Wicca is an ancient religion or anything, it was made by some guy in the 50's. Oh, and you're not supposed to tell non wiccans that you're a wiccan.

It's one of their rules.

Also, you have to take in account that not everybody is like most their age. I'm 13, I have an IQ of 151, got a 1271 on my SAT1 at 11, and I'm being monitored by John Hopkins University.
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Preythee, where did you test you IQ? I hope it wasn't on the internet. Besides, IQ measures like a measuring cup. You IQ number is how big the cup is, not how full it is.

However, merely reading what you write in your posts I can tell you are very intellegent. More than most.


I agree with brittish_gurl on that. Insight, first off you know nothing about LoneWeatherWolf except what they told you. You don't know if they have an accurate take on reality or not. You can assume they don't but you can't just go right out and say no one at that age does. First ask questions and make your bashes or whatever based on that. Personally I don't know if LoneWeatherWolf can control weather but it's possible.

What I'm getting at is don't tell people what they can or can't do based on their age, gender, religion, etc. Especially if you don't know anything about them.


How old are you then? Becasue it seems to me the argument you make here, which is a valid one, resembles greatly that of one made from a person of young numerical age. Am I right? And please, don't patronize me by lying.



Now, lets take another poll: Which is more possible? An eleven year old who can control weather patterns? Or an eleven year old with an overactive imagination?

What does our logic dictate. I'm not nessesarily saying she is completely full of it, but common sense dictates she has an overactive imagination.

I'll tell you what LoneWeatherWolf, you tell me where you live, and I'll monitor the whether patterns Via the internet and TV. Keep a journal of how you feel during a length of two weeks, lets say, but do not at anytime look to see what the weather is, if possible. Then, post your journal, and I'll post the weather patterns for the weeks in question, and we'll see if they line up. If they line up completely, then i will revoke everything I said, and all doubts. If there is more than a 10% discrepency, I will take it as either deceptions, or coicidence.

Your move.
Raistlin Majere
I know about the IQ, but I've been labeled a prodigy by many psychologists and Universities.
Insight
Uh, just so you guys know, the test online is completely innaccurate. they're just trying to sell you crap. Don't believe me? Answer all the questions at complete random a few times, and you'll see what I mean. If the test doesn't come from a university, it has absolutely NO relavence or credibility whatsoever. Here, I'll tell you what, I'll go to IQtest.com and choose the first response for every question, and post the results.
Raistlin Majere
Only thing that keeps me from being in a private school and under the microscope is my personal feelings and the fact that my parents don't have the money.
Insight
Wait, they changed IQ test.com! You can't even get your results from their "extensive 38 questions" anymore if you don't pay them ten bucks. Gimme a break. Damned internet scam artists. I remember when you'd get a score at the end. Maybe you do get a score sent to you in your email, but I sure as hell am not going to fall for that anymore. The last thing I need is my address on another mailing list.
Darkwind
LoneWeatherWolf didn't say he was Wiccan. He said he was a Witch and he might not be Wiccan. But it is not a good idea to tell your buddies about your powers or your craft. You just open yourself up to ridicule. They don't understand and it looks like bragging. The powers that be don't like bragging.
You are young yet you will learn. In the mean time keep it to youself no one else needs to know. Play be a kid, don't grow up too soon, enjoy and don't give out your age on the internet. Bad people are all a round.
theomegacode
I am 15. I didn't say they could do it or not either. I was saying that just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean that it can't happen. It's like religion.
Redneck
Dude, you are not a witch. If you want to go around reading fantasy novels and believing in spirits, fine. Whatever works for you. But take my advice don't go around telling people that you're Gandalf. That's a good way to get a spell of whoop-ass cast on you by the kids at school.
Insight
QUOTE(theomegacode @ Dec 1 2004, 07:33 PM)
I am 15. I didn't say they could do it or not either. I was saying that just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean that it can't happen. It's like religion.
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It's not at all that I don't believe it can't happen. But I could never believe that an 11 year old could even have the cognitive capacity to be able to percieve if they were doing it or not!

Good grief, when I was young, I was afraid that my parents were going to turn into gorrilas! But I didn't go around saying I was a witch. One night, I even saw what I think might have been an angel, but I didn't go around telling people I had a psychic connection with the spirits. You know why? Because I had a reasonable and accurate view of reality, which is more than I can say for the Kiddie Kinetics on this forum.
pagan_jedi_girl
oo, Insight's got his back up.

Everyone, this poor kid doesn't deserve to be attacked.

Witches are real. That is a fact. I'm living proof.

I'm not a wiccan, I follow the ancient path that has been around her thousands of years.

He may be a natural witch, his power comes from within. Do not scoff till you can prove.

Or else.... gunsmilie.gif
Curiosity
Pagan's right, lay off the kid! He(she?) came here for help, the least we can do is be nice. disgust.gif What's the point in putting down someone who'e less than half your age? Don't you people have better things to do?
pagan_jedi_girl
Kitty go you! We can fight for the kid!

The kid is lonely, the kid reached out to us for help.... don't throw it in -the kid's-face! No wonder the kid hasn't replied! The kid think you'll attack him/her!

-apreciated if we knew your gender. lol grin2.gif
FLY SPITTA
I had a girl a while ago on MSN messenger she said she was a wiccan too NAH I DIDNT BELIEVE HER! I don't believe you either. How can ones mood change the weather? SO I can piss you off and you will make it rain or something? laugh.gif I ust find that hard to believe...that's a personal opinion. I think when it rains your just sad or mad at the time it does so you think you chane the weather. PLus 11years old it's all in your mind.
Stellar
QUOTE
Witches are real. That is a fact. I'm living proof.


No, you arent.
Hotoke
you guys watch to much charmed seriously
manticoreconfusion
i choose not to vote as i have no idea who you really are so i dont know
Deadly Nightshade
Hi
I think you should mature first before studying witchcraft as it is a very in depth practice. If you say you are eleven and telling others that you are a witch, then they will tease you as DieByTheFlyGuy says as children often mock this or are afraid by this.
However I disagree with DieByTheFlyGuy, Insight and many others as witches Are able to control the weather.
I am not doubting you for a minuite when you say you are lonely as many witches are loners but I would suggest to you , reguarding your age, and you are just a child yourself, that you try to change your tactics and not tell other children these things as it is hard enough for an adult to understand , let alone, a child.

Blessed Be
Nightshade.
xxx.





Hotoke
if witches can control the weather why don't you do something about those hurricanes. and go to africa and end teh drought(sp?)
Insight
I agree with hotoke on this one.
Me_Again
ph34r.gif Something was done about the hurricanes and the volcanoes - now you just don't worry there to much wub.gif
pagan_jedi_girl
A lone witch could not take one a huricane, a coven maybe.

Witches are usually loners so do the math.
Stellar
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Witches are usually loners so do the math.


How convenient. You know, I wonder why all of these witches cant end up proving their powers and winning that, what was it? 1 MILLION $ that one person is offering...?
SerenitysRiver
How unbelievably cruel many of you have been! I don't care if you don't believe in what this person has said. Their feelings are just as pure and real as yours, and possibly even more suseptible to ridicule due to their already weakened condition.

I had similar experiences when I was around his/her age. I started studying the craft when I was in middle school, and was encouraged by some friends to start practicing in a coven with them. I do not take their powers very seriously, however, I know that, even looking back on it with doubt, something happened. Something in what we did made a difference. I fully recognise that it could have been completely psychological. However, it was enough of an experience to make me shy away from any weather manipulation spells and not allow myself to practice magick until I had studied more. And, was real enough to me, that I avoid magick as often as possible.

I think that you should try and find people on this site who will support you in your practices. Whether or not you truly have these powers, I and hopefully other here understand that the sensations feel extremely real to you and therefore are valid enough to not be ridiculed as immature flights of fancy.

And to those of you who have not even pretended to be understanding: try and back off. You can disagree with someone until you're blue in the face. You can laugh your bums off when you read what someone believes. You can tell them that you don't believe them. But to not completely write them off. Try to approach it with at least some sense of tactfulness, assuming you have any. When a person is asking for help, give them help. Don't insult them. If you can't NOT insult them... then don't reply. Abusing people who are already emotionally down is in no way acceptable.
pagan_jedi_girl
Blessed be.
pRoDiEuS
control the weather you say think about this if you control the weather you control the world. controling the weather is with out a doubt the greatest power. weather its unpredictable some what its very very very powerful on its own you could be unstopible and well unless your storm off of X-men well i dont know im sorry but thats kind of hard to believe.i could see you having telicaneeses or how ever you spell it and move stuff around but controling the weather i dont know
Deadly Nightshade
I disagree with you there Pagan Jedi Girl one witch alone can do this and not just a coven.....
Stellar it doesnt make a difference if someone was offering 2 , 3 , or 4 million dollars. All the money in the world can not buy a witches secrets.....
SerenitysRiver, I dont doubt that the persons feelings are not real for I knew from an early age that i was one....All i am trying to say is that at 11 yr old , other people of the same age , will not understand and they will mock.....
so therefore, sometimes its better to keep ones feelings to oneself for a while and use this time to do research for we all feel alone at times and misunderstood.
Prodieus, why do you mock us so???
It maybe a great power, but there again witches posess this gift....I have made it rain on a bright sunnys summer day and even made it snow in the middle of a heatwave in the middle of July so unless you have evidence, written evidence that this cannot happen , then where is your proof???

Blessed Be.

Nightshade.
xxx.


















joc
LoneWeatherWolf,

Many times we believe things which seem irrational to others. Many times the irrationality of our beliefs is not as apparent to us as those around us.

I don't believe you can control the weather. Furthermore, I believe that if you were able to control the weather, that you would be able to control the weather...any weather...at anytime...day or night...winter or summer...at a moments notice...with zero failures. So....I recommend a test for you:

Change the weather back and forth, here and there, however it pleases you to prove to your friends (and yourself) that you can change the weather.
Say, on a cold day, change the temperature to the high 90s. Or if it is a bright sun shiny day, tell your friends it is going to start raining and then make it rain.

Oft times LoneWeatherWolf, weather patterns coincide with our 'feelings', rather our 'feelings' are to some degree controlled by the weather. Don't be necessarily fooled into thinking that you control the weather...it may be the case that the weather is controlling you. original.gif
Deadly Nightshade
...Joc, but where is your proof that you disbelieve Lone Wolf???
I have just made a post that i can do this.....
To the exreme!!!
I have made it snow during a heatwave in the middle of July.
That is pretty impressive and I dont lie...lying is not in my nature.

Blessed Be.

Nightshade
xxx.
Hotoke
QUOTE(Deadly Nightshade @ Dec 5 2004, 08:33 PM)
...Joc, but where is your proof that you disbelieve Lone Wolf???
I have just made a post that i can do this.....
To the exreme!!!
I have made it snow during a heatwave in the middle of July.
That is pretty impressive and I dont lie...lying is not in my nature.

Blessed Be.

Nightshade
xxx.
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if that was true it would be all over the news. you know how impossible that is. snow cant form at warm weather.
Raistlin Majere
Start a forest fire with lightning in Red Hook, NY, next to Annondale on Hudson, tomarrow.
joc
QUOTE
I have made it snow during a heatwave in the middle of July.
That is pretty impressive and I dont lie...lying is not in my nature.


That would be impressive...where are you from...The North Pole? tongue.gif
Raistlin Majere
A heatwave in the north pole would be like 12 degrees...

Wait...

[inside brain]NORTH POLE+MAGIC POWERS=ELF![/inside brain]

Make sure that fat bastard Santa gives me my MP3 player.
pRoDiEuS
QUOTE(joc @ Dec 5 2004, 09:45 AM)
LoneWeatherWolf,

Many times we believe things which seem irrational to others.  Many times the irrationality of our beliefs is not as apparent to us as those around us.

I don't believe you can control the weather.  Furthermore,  I believe that if you were able to control the weather, that you would be able to control the weather...any weather...at anytime...day or night...winter or summer...at a moments notice...with zero failures.  So....I recommend a test for you:

Change the weather back and forth, here and there, however it pleases you to prove to your friends (and yourself) that you can change the weather.
Say, on a cold day, change the temperature to the high 90s.  Or if it is a bright sun shiny day, tell your friends it is going to start raining and then make it rain.

Oft times LoneWeatherWolf, weather patterns coincide with our 'feelings', rather our 'feelings' are to some degree controlled by the weather.  Don't be necessarily fooled into thinking that you control the weather...it may be the case that the weather is controlling you. original.gif
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I totaly agree with you what i think they should do is post a day time and what there going to do and make it good enough to get on to the news so everyone can see but until i see this im sorry but i dont believe it at all
Deadly Nightshade
I dont care whether you believe me or not. It did snow in the uk in a heatwave in the middle of july but not of this year. It happened in Wales Hotoke.

Blessed be.
Stellar
QUOTE
That is pretty impressive and I dont lie...lying is not in my nature.


And a liar would tell everyone they're lying?
Kismit
The reason I gave up the practice of Witchcraft was because so few Wiccans appeared to be able to agree on any-thing . I have read alot on the subject and feel very comfortable with the knowledge and understanding I have on it.

So here goes , As a witch I would never have claimed dominion over the weather, nor would I have wanted it. Allthough it should be considered no different to ancient civilisations and there rain dancers or perhaps even the old saying of "To pray for rain".

QUOTE
How convenient. You know, I wonder why all of these witches cant end up proving their powers and winning that, what was it? 1 MILLION $ that one person is offering...?



The best answer to this question is actually a lot more sensible than most of the answers I have read , basically wiccan moral views are different because the Universe is percieved diferently , you could attempt to make the money on offer yours but , if it was not meant for you and was meant for someone more deserving (perhaps someone who may cure cancer with research funded by this money )it would be considered black magik or grey at the very least . Not to mention the $1,000,000.00 is on offer to any one who can prove the exsistence of psychic powers which are not a pre-requisite for being a witch .

Just to clarify the moral issues of black and white magik here's a story .

A young boy (21) is dying from Lukemia , a Whitch has the opportunity to cast a circle and request life saving healing for the individual involved .Should they ?
No , they should not . there are lessons in this persons life being learnt becuase of the tragdey . Lessons being learnt by him and his familly to interfere in this process would be very wrong .
SerenitysRiver
QUOTE(Deadly Nightshade @ Dec 5 2004, 03:30 PM)
SerenitysRiver, I dont doubt that the persons feelings are not real for I knew from an early age that i was one....All i am trying to say is that at 11 yr old , other people of the same age , will not understand and they will mock.....
so therefore, sometimes its better to keep ones feelings to oneself for a while and use this time to do research for we all feel alone at times and misunderstood.
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I agree with that Nightshade. I understand that his/her peers would most likely not understand what s/he is feeling. Whether their powers are real or not, they need to have some form of support to go to. They tried to find it here. Unfortunately, I fear that they have been frightened away by some less sensetive types....

I was lucky. My fascination with the supernatural was shared with and nurtured by my later coven-mates. I think everyone should have this support, as long as it doesn't change into pressure to do what they're not comfortable with.
Insight
The struggle for power, the struggle for power.

All the wiccans in the world could never come close to matching the power bestowed upon me. The Ultimate power. And no, it's not my made up Mustardkinesis.
Monkyburd
Insight, you are much too arrogant to be as enlightened as you claim to be. Please give it a rest. rolleyes.gif
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