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Stephanie
I've made a lot of posts about the crop circle that appeared in my neighbors cornfield a few years ago, but it wasn't until today that I found an entire website on it by complete accident-I was looking up the history of my town and it came up.

Apparently the person who created the site thinks the crop circle is authentic and in some way connected to the illuminati. Below in a thumbnail of it. The rest of the info can be found here:

Howell Crop Circles & The Illuminati
Field Report on the Howell UFO

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_hAiLO_
Thats messy...wouldn't you think its a hoax? I took a look at the inside of the circle and it didn't looked to be pressed down, it looked sprialing outward...the stocks.

This was a very thorough research, I couldn't read it all laugh.gif . I just read from here to there and looked at the pictures...

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These intrigued me...same formation, same UFO craft or same hoaxer...
Stephanie
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Dec 4 2004, 12:42 PM)
Thats messy...wouldn't you think its a hoax? I took a look at the inside of the circle and it didn't looked to be pressed down, it looked sprialing outward...the stocks.

This was a very thorough research, I couldn't read it all laugh.gif . I just read from here to there and looked at the pictures...

user posted imageuser posted image
These intrigued me...same formation, same UFO craft or same hoaxer...
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lol yeah, I agree, it looks really messy to me and I would have expected it to be considered a fake, but the weird stuff that went on the night it happened and the UFO report on it are somewhat convincing me that it's real
Insight
My opinion was the original pattern shown first in this thread was man made. There are countless tracks around it. As far as the illuminati are concerned, they control the world, and have access to the highest technology. It was probaly they themselves piloting the unidetified craft. The all seeing eye seems to be their favorite logo.
_hAiLO_
It is messy...really looks like a hoax to me now cause when I look at the eye, the stamped-on stocks, they aren't as genuine as the good ones would look like.
user posted image
I'm looking at this and look at each and every circle...the stamped-on stocks really look...non-messy and its just hard to believe its from humans...

The circles in that crop circle have bent stocks that go around each other, in an almost perfect fashion.

This one below, the stamped-on stocks really look messy and it looks like a human stamped on it with a board...
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Scatterdome
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Dec 4 2004, 08:42 AM)
Thats messy...wouldn't you think its a hoax? I took a look at the inside of the circle and it didn't looked to be pressed down, it looked sprialing outward...the stocks.

This was a very thorough research, I couldn't read it all laugh.gif . I just read from here to there and looked at the pictures...


I suggest you read more about the Howell formation before you’re ready to dismiss it as a hoax. First and foremost, start with the Wilson/Lemire/Lietzau/Sugden field report to which Stephanie provided a link, which will remove any doubts as to the formation’s authenticity:
http://www.michiganufos.com/howellcropformation.html

QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Dec 4 2004, 08:42 AM)
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These intrigued me...same formation, same UFO craft or same hoaxer...
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Just to clear things up, these are photos of the Serpent Mound formation, which is featured at the end of my Howell essay; the first photo is the original formation, discovered in August ’03; the second photo is an “echo” formation that appeared in the exact same spot in Spring ‘04. Read more about the “echo” here:
http://www.peoplesdefender.com/main.asp?Se...&ArticleID=3199

And here’s a few articles about the Serpent Mound formation which also point to the formation’s authenticity:
http://www.cropcirclenews.com/modules/news...php?storyid=164
http://www.forgottenoh.com/News/cropcircleadams.html
QUOTE(Insight @ Dec 4 2004, 08:23 PM)
My opinion was the original pattern shown first in this thread was man made. There are countless tracks around it. As far as the illuminati are concerned, they control the world, and have access to the highest technology. It was probaly they themselves piloting the unidetified craft. The all seeing eye seems to be their favorite logo.
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You’re right about the Illuminati, but your opinion about the Howell’s formation’s authenticity will change if you read the researchers’ field report (Link also provided twice above) :
http://www.michiganufos.com/howellcropformation.html

The overhead photo of the Howell formation was taken after the farmer had harvested all the wheat around the larger circle, leaving it intact. (The smaller circle was accidentally destroyed, unnoticed, by the harvester before the larger formation was discovered.) It had already had several visitors at the time of the photo; that is why you see tracks.

The Howell formation was not a hoax. The field report’s scientific evidence alone reveals this; my subsequent findings, detailed in my essay, only strengthen this conclusion:
http://www.scatterdome.com/howell.htm
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Dec 5 2004, 12:43 PM)
It is messy...really looks like a hoax to me now cause when I look at the eye, the stamped-on stocks, they aren't as genuine as the good ones would look like.

user posted image
I'm looking at this and look at each and every circle...the stamped-on stocks really look...non-messy and its just hard to believe its from humans...

The circles in that crop circle have bent stocks that go around each other, in an almost perfect fashion.

This one below, the stamped-on stocks really look messy and it looks like a human stamped on it with a board...
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Upon further research, you will also learn why I don’t think the Serpent Mound formation was created by boards.

The following quote is taken from an article on the Serpent Mound formation, found at this link:
http://www.forgottenoh.com/News/cropcircleadams.html

Jeff Wilson, an independent crop circle investigator from Dexter, Mich., documented slightly higher radiation levels inside the design, as well as slightly higher electrical and magnetic fields than those outside of the marking. The plants inside the cirles have been swirled to the ground and have sustained heat damage. According to Wilson, it is more difficult to analyze markings such as the ones found at the site because there have only been an estimated 10 reported markings in soybeans in the United States.

QUOTE(Stephanie @ Dec 3 2004, 10:55 PM)
Apparently the person who created the site thinks the [Howell] crop circle is authentic and in some way connected to the illuminati.

To clear one more thing up, namely the Illuminati connection, for the more casual readers of this thread who may not click-and-read every link here:

I believe that the makers of most genuine crop circles are the enemies of the Illuminati, trying to wake up the masses the best they can as the world's media is owned by the Illuminati. I believe the Howell formation specifically pointed out some symbols the Illuminati intentionally have carved into the ground, symbolizing their poisoning of the local water supply at a water-related sacred site, among other things.

This theory is explored in detail in my essay.
Mysteryman
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Dec 4 2004, 07:42 AM)
Thats messy...wouldn't you think its a hoax? I took a look at the inside of the circle and it didn't looked to be pressed down, it looked sprialing outward...the stocks.

This was a very thorough research, I couldn't read it all laugh.gif . I just read from here to there and looked at the pictures...

user posted imageuser posted image
These intrigued me...same formation, same UFO craft or same hoaxer...
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But whats strange about this is I believe the left crop circle (compared to the right one) is pretty neat. The right pic of the crop circle is pretty messy. But their exactly identical...Strange -

Actually I'm just realizing that the right picture has several rings outside of the final circle and the left crop circle doesnt, see it?
Diebytheflyguy
You know the one on the left is man-made because its simple, and can be easily produced, and because you can see paths that were made so they could stomp the smaller circles in the middle, and at the bottom.
Mysteryman
Yeah - thats true - But why can't there be spaceships out there that have simple symbols...
Diebytheflyguy
Oh, there could. I was just saying that the simplicity of this crop circle could easily be dismissed as a fake, while other larger more complex patterns will be harder to explain.
Scatterdome
QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Dec 14 2004, 04:50 PM)
Oh, there could. I was just saying that the simplicity of this crop circle could easily be dismissed as a fake, while other larger more complex patterns will be harder to explain.
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Yes, that is an assumption often made by those that are new to the phenomenon.

But as those of us who extensively study the phenomenon know, many small, simple formations have been shown to be genuine-- and the criteria that determine this are not the size of the formation, but instead, unhoaxable anomalies such as cleanly bent grain stalks, or cellular-level changes to the grain inside the circle, among other criteria.

Conversely, the hoaxers have lately getting better at making large, complex formations that look pretty darn good from the air (while still not containing the anomalies that would indicate authenticity), as evidenced in particular by this year's numerous well-done hoaxes in England, which both outnumbered and regularly outsized the few genuine formations that appeared in England this year. (Meanwhile, Canada and the U.S. have been getting the bulk of genuine formations lately, some which were spectacular.) Read more about this strange new turn of events at author Freddy Silva's website. Here is the link to his article about it, titled "2004: The Year That Wasn't."
http://www.lovely.clara.net/crop_circles_history04a.html

As I said in my earlier post, both the Howell formation and the Serpent Mound formation, while small, were found to contain the classic unhoaxable anomalies that indicate that they were authentic. (See the field reports linked in my earlier post.)
_hAiLO_
Well, the crop circles with the bent stocks that look like this:
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I think are authentic. Board just simply cannot do this, and some people ahve presented the explanations of radiation, but I don't thoroughly understand how the beta/alpha/gamma radiation can do such...effect to so many stocks, in almost the same level of height.
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