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The Drake
What is your choise, please tell me because i'm really curious. Btw, i know some people don't believe in Cryokineses or Chronokineses but ya never know. If you have any comments just spit it out.
_hAiLO_
I think EK would be the strongest ability of many people because electricity is like the easiest energy to imagine, and its probably the most persistent type of energy.
The Drake
I agree completly, electricity is more effective then one could possibly think.
Yasha
I find manipulating a flame with pk quite easy actually
The Drake
Fire is indeed very handy but the problem is that it leaves it's marks. Electricity doesn't have that. It is as effective but can't be seen that you used it. * Starts practising his electrokinesis so i can prove it by using it on a teacher. devil.gif )
Yasha
QUOTE(The Drake @ Dec 5 2004, 12:56 PM)
Fire is indeed very handy but the problem is that it leaves it's marks. Electricity doesn't have that. It is as effective but can't be seen that you used it. * Starts practising his electrokinesis so i can prove it by using it on a teacher.  devil.gif )
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Lol, spontaneous combustion tongue.gif .. But then again EK can be used to cheat on online gamnes! devil.gif
The Drake
Indeed but then there is telekinesis that i verry handy for dropping an anville on the head of my girlsfriends admirers (God, i hate those m*ther f*ckers).
Yasha
Well sorry to burst your bubble, but TK takes alot of time and master level is not too strong.. not strong enough to lift an anvil lol.
sheila12
I think electorkinesis is cool. original.gif
zudo
ek could not be used to cheat on online games, you would have to send out no more than five volts on the wire, and you would have to do it at a certain pace, and you would have to know what you were sending, even then, you could cheat no more than a hacker could
The Drake
But you could use it to blow up things that use electricity. Thats pretty handy (for revenge or something), right?
_hAiLO_
QUOTE(The Drake @ Dec 5 2004, 09:41 AM)
But you could use it to blow up things that use electricity. Thats pretty handy (for revenge or something), right?
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hehe, I think Arwen of Gufzoo have done that before grin2.gif .
arwenpotter
haha yer but see Hailo thats more by acident theen will ^^

i chose ek becoz alothough fire can destroy a city so can ek and plus we depend on electricity in almost eveyrhting today...

it can be used to interfer with games i used to use it for that. but only games like chance or something where things can be a little random. its hard to explain.
Leviathon
All of these "powers" are just Psi. Why do you need the corny names? I think your just confusing everyone.
PsycicPoida
What??? if U don't know what the names R then learn them original.gif I don't see NE1 here being confused.
Leviathon
QUOTE(PsycicPoida @ Dec 6 2004, 09:41 PM)
What??? if U don't know what the names R then learn them original.gif I don't see NE1 here being confused.
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I didn't say I was confused. How many newbies have you seen come in here and say "what powers can I learn?" I think they cant make up their minds because of all the invented choices they have.
Insight
I'd have to agree. Even the thought that "they can learn powers" is misleading. Telekinesis covers the movement of all matter. To split it up into needless categories is confusing for them and misleading. But hey, that's the internet for you.
arwenpotter
*frowns* these terms have been around for a long time actually. i admit i didnt know the formal name for ek or ak when i first started looking here but hey its not like its confusing. its like when you have a strand of a virus it has a slightly different name usually a letter added on the end like Hep A or Hep B this is kind of like that. most of the kinesis are all just a strand from tk so they have slightly different names to that work with their corresponding element.
Insight
QUOTE(arwenpotter @ Dec 6 2004, 12:37 PM)
*frowns* these terms have been around for a long time actually. i admit i didnt know the formal name for ek or ak when i first started looking here but hey its not like its confusing. its like when you have a strand of a virus it has a slightly different name usually a letter added on the end like Hep A or Hep B this is kind of like that. most of the kinesis are all just a strand from tk so they have slightly different names to that work with their corresponding element.
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The names are misleading and completely unessesary. Telekinesis is the only name nessesary really. It refers to the movement of all matter through mind manipulation. All one has to do is focus the meditation on a speciffic kind of matter, rather than develop an entirely new and nonsensical name for it.
Fatal Fury
No offence but what in the world is cryokenesis. I think that all of these kenesis is a bit out this world and in the astral plane sorry.
Curiosity
I think the strongest ability depends on the person and their skill at a kinesis.

QUOTE
No offence but what in the world is cryokenesis.

Cyrokinesis, or ck, invovles lowering an object's or an area's temperature. Pyrokinesis, or pk, involves raising it.
Fatal Fury
QUOTE(Yasha @ Dec 6 2004, 06:23 AM)
Well sorry to burst your bubble, but TK takes alot of time and master level is not too strong.. not strong enough to lift an anvil lol.
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Im really good at aura sensing and seeing. My grandmother says im an impath.
Curiosity
I think you mean "empath". Can you feel other people's emotions? Like, feel them for yourself?
jacob
I think the strongest powers depend on how strong the user is but if they are all the same i would say TK because it can move stuff to block other powers and can move water because it is matter.
gufzoo
QUOTE(Insight @ Dec 6 2004, 11:22 PM)
QUOTE(arwenpotter @ Dec 6 2004, 12:37 PM)
*frowns* these terms have been around for a long time actually. i admit i didnt know the formal name for ek or ak when i first started looking here but hey its not like its confusing. its like when you have a strand of a virus it has a slightly different name usually a letter added on the end like Hep A or Hep B this is kind of like that. most of the kinesis are all just a strand from tk so they have slightly different names to that work with their corresponding element.
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The names are misleading and completely unessesary. Telekinesis is the only name nessesary really. It refers to the movement of all matter through mind manipulation. All one has to do is focus the meditation on a speciffic kind of matter, rather than develop an entirely new and nonsensical name for it.
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Ahem, well, to disagree with you once again Insight (can't we agree on anything? wacko.gif ), the term "telekinesis" may apply to those psychokinetic abilities that manipulate matter, such as hydrokinesis, geokinesis, etc.

However, there's a slew of abilities that manipulate energy, not matter. The two are distinct, you see. These abilities include, but are not limited to, pyrokinesis, cryokinesis, electrokinesis, biokinesis... etc. These energy-related abilities are used to manipulate different types of energy. Or in some cases (such as thermal energy) one type of energy in multiple ways. It is not only acceptable but also useful to be as specific as possible when speaking of these abilities, including the ones that manipulate matter.

Otherwise: one person may say "I'm learning telekinesis".
A second person then has to ask "Oh yeah, what are you trying to move?"
"Energy," the first answers.
"What type of energy?" asks the second.
"Thermal," the first answers.
"Oh yeah, what are you doing with this thermal energy?" says the second.
"I'm taking it away from objects," says the first.
"Well what effect does that have on the object?" asks the second.
"Makes it cold!" answers the first.

Wouldn't it have been easier from the get-go just to say "I'm learning cryokinesis"?
The terms telekinesis, cryokinesis, electrokinesis, etc. are generally accepted and used by most people in this forum. You may not like it, but I suggest you get used to it and quit whining about it once and for all.
arwenpotter
GO GUFFS!! point goes to Gufzoo! i agree 100% its less confusing for MOST this way. the 'MOST' applies ot the peopel who are unfamiliar wiht these terms and are usually new.
Insight
QUOTE(gufzoo @ Dec 6 2004, 08:32 PM)
QUOTE(Insight @ Dec 6 2004, 11:22 PM)
QUOTE(arwenpotter @ Dec 6 2004, 12:37 PM)
*frowns* these terms have been around for a long time actually. i admit i didnt know the formal name for ek or ak when i first started looking here but hey its not like its confusing. its like when you have a strand of a virus it has a slightly different name usually a letter added on the end like Hep A or Hep B this is kind of like that. most of the kinesis are all just a strand from tk so they have slightly different names to that work with their corresponding element.
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The names are misleading and completely unessesary. Telekinesis is the only name nessesary really. It refers to the movement of all matter through mind manipulation. All one has to do is focus the meditation on a speciffic kind of matter, rather than develop an entirely new and nonsensical name for it.
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Ahem, well, to disagree with you once again Insight (can't we agree on anything? wacko.gif ), the term "telekinesis" may apply to those psychokinetic abilities that manipulate matter, such as hydrokinesis, geokinesis, etc.

However, there's a slew of abilities that manipulate energy, not matter. The two are distinct, you see. These abilities include, but are not limited to, pyrokinesis, cryokinesis, electrokinesis, biokinesis... etc. These energy-related abilities are used to manipulate different types of energy. Or in some cases (such as thermal energy) one type of energy in multiple ways. It is not only acceptable but also useful to be as specific as possible when speaking of these abilities, including the ones that manipulate matter.

Otherwise: one person may say "I'm learning telekinesis".
A second person then has to ask "Oh yeah, what are you trying to move?"
"Energy," the first answers.
"What type of energy?" asks the second.
"Thermal," the first answers.
"Oh yeah, what are you doing with this thermal energy?" says the second.
"I'm taking it away from objects," says the first.
"Well what effect does that have on the object?" asks the second.
"Makes it cold!" answers the first.

Wouldn't it have been easier from the get-go just to say "I'm learning cryokinesis"?
The terms telekinesis, cryokinesis, electrokinesis, etc. are generally accepted and used by most people in this forum. You may not like it, but I suggest you get used to it and quit whining about it once and for all.
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I understand where you are going with this, but I think the longer version of the conversation above leads to further feeling and discussion of the techniques in question. Without it, someone trying to make something cold might not realize to "take heat away" from it. It also prevents people from using catchy phrases and getting over confident. It promotes much deeper discussion for sure, and get's closer to the heart of the matter. If someone is going to learn to manipulate any type of matter with their mind, they have to start at the basics first, not practicing many different off shoots at once, like so many people seem too.

Remeber, the short and easy path leads to folley.
FrostWarrior
I agree with Insight 100%.
gufzoo
QUOTE(Insight @ Dec 7 2004, 08:22 AM)
I understand where you are going with this, but I think the longer version of the conversation above leads to further feeling and discussion of the techniques in question. Without it, someone trying to make something cold might not realize to "take heat away" from it. It also prevents people from using catchy phrases and getting over confident. It promotes much deeper discussion for sure, and get's closer to the heart of the matter. If someone is going to learn to manipulate any type of matter with their mind, they have to start at the basics first, not practicing many different off shoots at once, like so many people seem too.

Remeber, the short and easy path leads to folley.
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But all this time you've implied that your problem isn't with the actual abilities themselves but with the NAMES that people give them. Explain.
Insight
You got the wrong impression. I was fighting on both fronts.
FrostWarrior
gufzoo, the names are wrong. you shouldnt have to back insight into a corner about this. The names were slapped together by some idiot who watched too much dragonball z :\

The only true abilities are below. Tell me otherwise if your brave enough, i make an awesome argument :\ (wow i use this smiley a lot now :\ xD)

1. Things like empathy, telepathy, MAYBE precog
2. Telekinesis (and its divisions...)
3. Energy manipulation (moving psi and ki)
4. Astral Projection

Oops, i sounded kinda more aggressive than i meant -X_x-
Sorry if i sounded like i was telling everyone i was 100% right xD
zudo
Me thinks talking to yourself and addressing yourself in third person should be a techniques, but in their true form, like you talk to yourself, and instead of making an answer you wait for one, in truth, this will be an answer from the bowels of your soul, and the third person thing, I do it alot without a second though (aka habit), and I need to add something to my list toher than "psi balls"...

haha, I've got balls of psi!... I mean steel! lol
gufzoo
QUOTE(FrostWarrior @ Dec 8 2004, 03:51 AM)
gufzoo, the names are wrong. you shouldnt have to back insight into a corner about this. The names were slapped together by some idiot who watched too much dragonball z :\

The only true abilities are below. Tell me otherwise if your brave enough, i make an awesome argument :\ (wow i use this smiley a lot now :\ xD)

1. Things like empathy, telepathy, MAYBE precog
2. Telekinesis (and its divisions...)
3. Energy manipulation (moving psi and ki)
4. Astral Projection

Oops, i sounded kinda more aggressive than i meant -X_x-
Sorry if i sounded like i was telling everyone i was 100% right xD
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If using made-up but commonly accepted words makes things clearer when discussing metaphysical phenomena, then I see nothing wrong with it. And while I'm sure Insight appreciates your support, and while I appreciate your opinion, I assure you that Insight is quite capable of keeping himself from being backed into a corner. And if he does find himself in a corner, I am certain he enjoys the challenge of getting himself out of it. wink2.gif
HardworkingBoy
Electrokinesis is easier to learn.
Vilius
Manipulating light in order to be become invisible and blind people is the strongest in my opinion.
Jjbreen
QUOTE (HardworkingBoy @ Oct 28 2007, 04:19 AM) *
Electrokinesis is easier to learn.


NO evidence of such exists unless you are talking about normal body static electricity ... but than that isn't all that big of a deal ...
Jjbreen
QUOTE (Vilius @ Oct 28 2007, 09:01 AM) *
Manipulating light in order to be become invisible and blind people is the strongest in my opinion.


Ya this is a pretty cool power. Flash a light into someone's eyes ---> they get blinded for a few seconds to a minute you are "invisiable" -- Cool trick! rolleyes.gif


By the way - Hardworking and Vilius -- You both realize that this thread is 3 yrs old? It started and ended in 2004....
GeneBrowne
Well I voted for something else .... being Naive is the strongest gift.
Vilius
QUOTE (Jjbreen @ Oct 28 2007, 09:28 AM) *
By the way - Hardworking and Vilius -- You both realize that this thread is 3 yrs old? It started and ended in 2004....


Sorry didnt notice that i never look at date >_<
She-ra
I don't believe in any of that stuff personally. Sorry.
inkblot
None of these exist. (Well, as far as I know, anyways.)
The142
QUOTE (GeneBrowne @ Oct 28 2007, 04:30 PM) *
Well I voted for something else .... being Naive is the strongest gift.

why is being naive strongest?
Lotus Flower
Treating this as a fun topic, I voted "other" - teleportation would be damn handy, disappear here, appear there..........

QUOTE (GeneBrowne @ Oct 28 2007, 04:30 PM) *
Well I voted for something else .... being Naive is the strongest gift.

laugh.gif

I think you are right Gene thumbsup.gif
The142
but why is it?
GeneBrowne
QUOTE (The142 @ Oct 29 2007, 12:38 AM) *
but why is it?



figure it out .. Lotus did.




The142
awwww do i have to?:
GeneBrowne
yes.gif

Just use your "abilities" like everyone else around here.
The142
don't i even get a clue?
She-ra
Here hun:

Dictionary.com
na·ive
–adjective
1. having or showing unaffected simplicity of nature or absence of artificiality; unsophisticated; ingenuous.
2. having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information; credulous: She's so naive she believes everything she reads. He has a very naive attitude toward politics.
3. having or marked by a simple, unaffectedly direct style reflecting little or no formal training or technique: valuable naive 19th-century American portrait paintings.
4. not having previously been the subject of a scientific experiment, as an animal.

Get it now????
The142
ok i think i got it
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