QUOTE(Insight @ Dec 6 2004, 11:22 PM)
QUOTE(arwenpotter @ Dec 6 2004, 12:37 PM)
*frowns* these terms have been around for a long time actually. i admit i didnt know the formal name for ek or ak when i first started looking here but hey its not like its confusing. its like when you have a strand of a virus it has a slightly different name usually a letter added on the end like Hep A or Hep B this is kind of like that. most of the kinesis are all just a strand from tk so they have slightly different names to that work with their corresponding element.
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The names are misleading and completely unessesary. Telekinesis is the only name nessesary really. It refers to the movement of all matter through mind manipulation. All one has to do is focus the meditation on a speciffic kind of matter, rather than develop an entirely new and nonsensical name for it.
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Ahem, well, to disagree with you once again Insight (can't we agree on anything?

), the term "telekinesis" may apply to those psychokinetic abilities that manipulate matter, such as hydrokinesis, geokinesis, etc.
However, there's a slew of abilities that manipulate energy, not matter. The two are distinct, you see. These abilities include, but are not limited to, pyrokinesis, cryokinesis, electrokinesis, biokinesis... etc. These energy-related abilities are used to manipulate different types of energy. Or in some cases (such as thermal energy) one type of energy in multiple ways. It is not only acceptable but also useful to be as specific as possible when speaking of these abilities, including the ones that manipulate matter.
Otherwise: one person may say "I'm learning telekinesis".
A second person then has to ask "Oh yeah, what are you trying to move?"
"Energy," the first answers.
"What type of energy?" asks the second.
"Thermal," the first answers.
"Oh yeah, what are you doing with this thermal energy?" says the second.
"I'm taking it away from objects," says the first.
"Well what effect does that have on the object?" asks the second.
"Makes it cold!" answers the first.
Wouldn't it have been easier from the get-go just to say "I'm learning cryokinesis"?
The terms telekinesis, cryokinesis, electrokinesis, etc. are generally accepted and used by most people in this forum. You may not like it, but I suggest you get used to it and quit whining about it once and for all.
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I understand where you are going with this, but I think the longer version of the conversation above leads to further feeling and discussion of the techniques in question. Without it, someone trying to make something cold might not realize to "take heat away" from it. It also prevents people from using catchy phrases and getting over confident. It promotes much deeper discussion for sure, and get's closer to the heart of the matter. If someone is going to learn to manipulate any type of matter with their mind, they have to start at the basics first, not practicing many different off shoots at once, like so many people seem too.