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d3v

Dec 6 2004, 01:31 AM

The New World Order has been slowly implimented into society since the Illuminati took power hundreds of thousands of years ago but has only started in full swing since the eary 20th century.

Goals of the New World Order

To begin to understand the New World Order (NWO) you need to forget what you have been told about philosophical differences between Republicans and Democrats; left and right; Socialists and Libertarians; business and labor; liberal and conservative; black and white, etc.. The planners of the New World Order know they must use, influence, and cater to all of these groups to accomplish the goals they are seeking, which are:

1. Consolidate everything.
2. Commercialize everything.
3. Classify everything.
4. Claim everything.
5. Control everything.

We might call these goals the five Cs of the New World Order. If it is fully empowered, free speech, personality, personal goals and decisions, individual responsibility, private property, private business, morality, Constitutional government, national sovereignty; and religious freedom can no longer be tolerated. Everyone in every country will be subject to the NWO management system.

9/11 kick started the NWO into full swing and this century we will see the msot significant changes to society with the hidden agenda being the NWO.

If theres anyone here that disagrees that the US goverment did 9/11 then quite frankly, u deserve a great big slap and should research the facts that point the finger at the US goverment which outweighs the evidence poiting the finger at Osama Bin Laden by quite a few tonnes

So as I was saying, 9/11 happend to kick start the implimentation of the NWO and of course the Iraq war for oil and to get a foothold in the East to launch further offensives around tht area.

I dont know about the USA but here in the UK, theres trying to get ID cards in for everyone. They will contain all our information so it will make it easier to put u in jail and other stuff like that.

At the moment, the public polls are saying we dont want them so we can expect to see a major 'terroist' attack happen in the UK to justify to the public the need of the ID card.

Justification of new laws of socital changes and additions are done by terroist attacks and bombing like the Oklahoma bombing done by the US goverment to justify a new law that the masses did not see necassary; the opinions soon swayed after the bombings.

Another example of justification is Pearl Harbour which happend so the US could enter the war.

"Why would a country want to enter a war" I hear some say. Well many reason, some of the main ones being you can get loads of new laws in and make alot of changes or you can cripple your econamy to create some breakthrough for whatever agenda you have.

It seems extreme but its the only way to do it. These people we call our goverments do not care for us. they hate our guts and will do anything no matter how disgusting to advance there agenda.

How to stop the NWO from being implimented

It may seem unstoppable but its not atall.

Waking the masses of ignorant and sheep brained public and educating them WILL stop them.

If EVERYONE knew what I knew then they wouldent stand a chance.

Mass awakening is needed and the internet is a great way.

Talk to people and help get more and more people aware and hopefully one day we will stop tere covert rule and free ourselves from the totall prison we call our 'freedom'.

d3v

Dec 6 2004, 01:53 AM

HERE is a much more in-depth summary of the NWO and you ow it to yourself to read it all.

aquatus1

Dec 6 2004, 03:21 AM

Sorry, but you stumbled coming out of the gate. The Illuminati took control hundreds of thousands of years ago? Good planners. They were already planning on dominating a world before we had even evolved into the modern human form.

Already guilty of over-exageration, I find it difficult to put much stock in your following statements. An ID for everyone? You think that is new? Heck, here in the US we've had social security numbers for several decades. They've done quite a bit of good.

Ultimately, there is one question that I will need to have answered before even considering the nonsense that has been spouted for so many decades about the New World Order. What, exactly, is the implementation of this NWO supposed to accomplish that isn't already in place? What exactly, does this evil government want us to do that we aren't already doing?

Insight

Dec 6 2004, 05:36 AM

QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Dec 5 2004, 07:21 PM)

Sorry, but you stumbled coming out of the gate. The Illuminati took control hundreds of thousands of years ago? Good planners. They were already planning on dominating a world before we had even evolved into the modern human form.

Already guilty of over-exageration, I find it difficult to put much stock in your following statements. An ID for everyone? You think that is new? Heck, here in the US we've had social security numbers for several decades. They've done quite a bit of good.

Ultimately, there is one question that I will need to have answered before even considering the nonsense that has been spouted for so many decades about the New World Order. What, exactly, is the implementation of this NWO supposed to accomplish that isn't already in place? What exactly, does this evil government want us to do that we aren't already doing?
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Study it for yourself and see I guess.

Blood Angel

Dec 6 2004, 12:16 PM

QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Dec 6 2004, 04:21 AM)

Sorry, but you stumbled coming out of the gate. The Illuminati took control hundreds of thousands of years ago? Good planners. They were already planning on dominating a world before we had even evolved into the modern human form.

Nope oonly since 1776, suffice to say till the 1980s, they weren't doing a very good job of it.

QUOTE

Already guilty of over-exageration, I find it difficult to put much stock in your following statements. An ID for everyone? You think that is new? Heck, here in the US we've had social security numbers for several decades. They've done quite a bit of good.

ID cards are nothing like social secuirty numbers. They are just what they say on the tin, except the police can arrest you for not carrying one, once they are implemented. When was the last time you were arrested for not carrying your social security number?

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Ultimately, there is one question that I will need to have answered before even considering the nonsense that has been spouted for so many decades about the New World Order. What, exactly, is the implementation of this NWO supposed to accomplish that isn't already in place? What exactly, does this evil government want us to do that we aren't already doing?
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Control of everything, and i mean EVERYTHING. Right down to owning your stools (whatever they want with them...).

Insight

Dec 7 2004, 12:13 AM

QUOTE(Blood Angel @ Dec 6 2004, 04:16 AM)

QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Dec 6 2004, 04:21 AM)

Sorry, but you stumbled coming out of the gate. The Illuminati took control hundreds of thousands of years ago? Good planners. They were already planning on dominating a world before we had even evolved into the modern human form.

Nope oonly since 1776, suffice to say till the 1980s, they weren't doing a very good job of it.

QUOTE

Already guilty of over-exageration, I find it difficult to put much stock in your following statements. An ID for everyone? You think that is new? Heck, here in the US we've had social security numbers for several decades. They've done quite a bit of good.

ID cards are nothing like social secuirty numbers. They are just what they say on the tin, except the police can arrest you for not carrying one, once they are implemented. When was the last time you were arrested for not carrying your social security number?

QUOTE

Ultimately, there is one question that I will need to have answered before even considering the nonsense that has been spouted for so many decades about the New World Order. What, exactly, is the implementation of this NWO supposed to accomplish that isn't already in place? What exactly, does this evil government want us to do that we aren't already doing?
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Control of everything, and i mean EVERYTHING. Right down to owning your stools (whatever they want with them...).
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Keep on informing the masses blood angel. We must make a stand if our children are to have the same freedoms as we do.

Insight

Dec 7 2004, 12:14 AM

QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 5 2004, 05:31 PM)

The New World Order has been slowly implimented into society since the Illuminati took power hundreds of thousands of years ago but has only started in full swing since the eary 20th century.

Goals of the New World Order

To begin to understand the New World Order (NWO) you need to forget what you have been told about philosophical differences between Republicans and Democrats; left and right; Socialists and Libertarians; business and labor; liberal and conservative; black and white, etc.. The planners of the New World Order know they must use, influence, and cater to all of these groups to accomplish the goals they are seeking, which are:

1. Consolidate everything.
2. Commercialize everything.
3. Classify everything.
4. Claim everything.
5. Control everything.

We might call these goals the five Cs of the New World Order. If it is fully empowered, free speech, personality, personal goals and decisions, individual responsibility, private property, private business, morality, Constitutional government, national sovereignty; and religious freedom can no longer be tolerated. Everyone in every country will be subject to the NWO management system.

9/11 kick started the NWO into full swing and this century we will see the msot significant changes to society with the hidden agenda being the NWO.

If theres anyone here that disagrees that the US goverment did 9/11 then quite frankly, u deserve a great big slap and should research the facts that point the finger at the US goverment which outweighs the evidence poiting the finger at Osama Bin Laden by quite a few tonnes

So as I was saying, 9/11 happend to kick start the implimentation of the NWO and of course the Iraq war for oil and to get a foothold in the East to launch further offensives around tht area.

I dont know about the USA but here in the UK, theres trying to get ID cards in for everyone. They will contain all our information so it will make it easier to put u in jail and other stuff like that.

At the moment, the public polls are saying we dont want them so we can expect to see a major 'terroist' attack happen in the UK to justify to the public the need of the ID card.

Justification of new laws of socital changes and additions are done by terroist attacks and bombing like the Oklahoma bombing done by the US goverment to justify a new law that the masses did not see necassary; the opinions soon swayed after the bombings.

Another example of justification is Pearl Harbour which happend so the US could enter the war.

"Why would a country want to enter a war" I hear some say. Well many reason, some of the main ones being you can get loads of new laws in and make alot of changes or you can cripple your econamy to create some breakthrough for whatever agenda you have.

It seems extreme but its the only way to do it. These people we call our goverments do not care for us. they hate our guts and will do anything no matter how disgusting to advance there agenda.

How to stop the NWO from being implimented

It may seem unstoppable but its not atall.

Waking the masses of ignorant and sheep brained public and educating them WILL stop them.

If EVERYONE knew what I knew then they wouldent stand a chance.

Mass awakening is needed and the internet is a great way.

Talk to people and help get more and more people aware and hopefully one day we will stop tere covert rule and free ourselves from the totall prison we call our 'freedom'.
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We should talk more about this. We need to mobilize. And soon.

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 01:04 AM

We need mass awarness.

Those that doubt what i'm saying need to researc it themselves and see for yourself.

Humans have been round for atleast 2 billion years.

Forget about history your taught at school.

They tell us there version of history.

I'm not saying all of it is bullshit but alot of it is such as the Bible and the story of jesus and all the other crap.

Either made up, twisted or half truths.

Stellar

Dec 7 2004, 03:32 AM

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Keep on informing the masses blood angel. We must make a stand if our children are to have the same freedoms as we do.

Yes, hmm... How do you propose we take such a stand, and how do you propose we justify it?

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Humans have been round for atleast 2 billion years.

Wow, we seem remarkably unadvanced for a 2 billion year old race...

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 03:38 AM

QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 6 2004, 01:31 AM)

If theres anyone here that disagrees that the US goverment did 9/11 then quite frankly, u deserve a great big slap and should research the facts that point the finger at the US goverment which outweighs the evidence poiting the finger at Osama Bin Laden by quite a few tonnes

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I've seen a couple of posts with some American bashing in them...but haven't responded. Not very many...just a couple. I just walked away.

But I'm not gonna walk away from this one.

Your statement is utterly ridiculous and shameful.

Stellar

Dec 7 2004, 03:41 AM

QUOTE

Your statement is utterly ridiculous and shameful.

Agreed. Someone needs to learn the correct definition of "evidence"

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 05:15 AM

Hey Steller, instead of dismissing the truth, look it up yourself.

U too Medic.

Do not respond here untill you have taken the time to look up the facts for yourself.

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 05:20 AM

[quote]Humans have been round for atleast 2 billion years.
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Wow, we seem remarkably unadvanced for a 2 billion year old race...
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The Illuminati's version of history that gets taught to every kid during the 15 years they spend in the indoctrination center known as "school", fails to mention how humanity has had many many periods of history being extremly technologically advanced even more than we are at now.

Ever heard of the Bablylonian era where we lived and were really advanced?

Like I said, history has been shaped and editited to suit the Illuminati.

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 05:23 AM

Do not respond here?

You bash my country and government but I don't have a right to respond?

NICE!

And what, pray tell, would you do if I decided to bash Britain? Wouldn't you feel compelled a bit to respond, or would you simply walk away?

You keep talking of your evidence.

You've already been told once to post it.

So......post it. I'll read it.

You're the one making the argument. Start backing it up.

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 05:26 AM

And what's crazy is that you're telling ME to look up supposed "facts" for YOUR argument!

Geez if that isn't the lamest thing I've ever heard of..........

You make a statement....you back it up. It's that simple. And if you can't back it up, then you'd better start retracting it.

You can't make a claim like that and simply expect others to do your work for you.

BACK IT UP

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 05:28 AM

I couldent care less if you bashed Britian.

Countries are only formed for a reason and used as tools.

Medic, no offense but your posts are just totally ignorant and your so brainwashed that I cant see your views changing no matter what I say.

I am not going to post links to evidence and stuff becuase its time consuming and google.com is only a few keystrokes away for you.

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 05:31 AM

You're not going to post evidence because you had none to beginwith.

Instead, you'll resort to calling me "ignorant".

Nice!

If you want my views to change, then you gotta do the work, pal. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO MADE THE RIDICULOUS STATEMENT.

If you can't back it up with facts, then nobody will EVER take you seriously.

And that's a FACT.

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 05:37 AM

All i'm going to say is...

If your dumb enough to believe your goverments side of the 9/11 story then theres no hope for you.

It is people like yourself that are so narrow minded and ignorant and gullable and sheep brained that got humanity into the prison its in today and its people like YOU that will let us slip further and further into the trap thats happening at this moment in time.

Its people like you that need to wake up or god help us all.

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 05:40 AM

Nice!

Now give me the evidence I need to understand why hundreds of my fellow brethren in EMS were killed on that day by my own government.

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 05:41 AM

Let me aid you in your wake-up call by giving you a link to a website that will explain the truth to you.

http://davidicke.com/

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 05:45 AM

I'm not asking you to point me to a website.

You stated what you believe to be fact. But you gave no basis whatsoever to back it up.

I want concrete, solid proof that my government initiated the 9/11 tragedy.

Concrete, solid evidence.

You made the claim. Now post your evidence. Don't point me to websites. Again, I'm not going to do your work for you. You're the one that spouted the words. Back 'em up.

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 05:48 AM

QUOTE(MedicTJ @ Dec 7 2004, 06:40 AM)

Nice!

Now give me the evidence I need to understand why hundreds of my fellow brethren in EMS were killed on that day by my own government.
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The reason 9/11 happend was to get the public support needed to launch the war in the East and kick start the new world order and also to justify new laws and laws that will pass through congress in years to come.

They cannot do these things without public support and they cannot impliment new laws and stuff without justification.

The Illuminati wanted the patriot act law in place and 9/11 happend to get the law thru congress, amoung many other things of course.

Thats just a few reasons why 9/11 happend. There are alot more and alot more will unfold in the future.

Two piece of evidence that points the finger at the US goverment AKA Illuminati is how the Bush admin insured the 2 towers for terroist attack only 1 month before the attacks happend and that resulted in a 2.55b dollar payout.

The 2 towers have been around since the 70's so....

The second is how the found the passport of one of the hijackers amoungst the rubble.

I feel sorry for anyone who dosent believe 9/11 happend by the US goverment and would gladly slap them.

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 05:50 AM

QUOTE(MedicTJ @ Dec 7 2004, 06:45 AM)

Don't point me to websites. Again, I'm not going to do your work for you. You're the one that spouted the words. Back 'em up.
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I'm not asking you to do anything like that.

U owe it to urself to research the truth.

Everyone should do it and wake up and stand upto the worlds evil that we call our 'freedom'.

Insults removed , please refrain from posting them in future.

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 05:51 AM

Where's your proof about the insurance? That's the first I've heard of it.

And as for slapping me. I'm right here in Indiana pal.

Good luck.

You'd better be able to back that one up too.

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 05:54 AM

Entire post removed

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 05:54 AM

QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 7 2004, 05:50 AM)

QUOTE(MedicTJ @ Dec 7 2004, 06:45 AM)

Don't point me to websites. Again, I'm not going to do your work for you. You're the one that spouted the words. Back 'em up.
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I'm not asking you to do anything like that.

U owe it to urself to research the truth.

Everyone should do it and wake up and stand upto the worlds evil that we call our 'freedom'.
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Again. YOU ARE the one that made the claim. So far, the only 'evidence' you've brought forth is some insurance policy on the towers. I don't have any evidence other than it comes from you.

Give me a source where you found that information.

I owe it to myself to research the truth?

You're the one who made your claim. You owe it to ME to explain it.

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 05:56 AM

I think I've proven this as a complete and utter fake.

You have no evidence to back your claims. You spout your hatred and misinformation with no respect for others.

You've done absolutely nothing to prove your claims, nor will you. Because you can't.

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 06:03 AM

I beleieve at this point a suspension is incredibly tempting

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 06:08 AM

Okay then. That ends there. I'm not gonna get into a name-callling and insult war with you.

I asked you to back up your claim, and you have still failed to do so.

d3v

Dec 7 2004, 06:13 AM

They maybe insults but they are all true.

u cant engage in an insult war with me since you have nothing to insult me with.

I'm not wading thru websites linking and quoting and wasting my time and boring myself with a suject i know off by heart.

Look it up for yourself.

I made the topic to tell people the truth and if people doubt it then they research it.

Insight

Dec 7 2004, 09:31 AM

QUOTE(MedicTJ @ Dec 6 2004, 09:45 PM)

I'm not asking you to point me to a website.

You stated what you believe to be fact. But you gave no basis whatsoever to back it up.

I want concrete, solid proof that my government initiated the 9/11 tragedy.

Concrete, solid evidence.

You made the claim. Now post your evidence. Don't point me to websites. Again, I'm not going to do your work for you. You're the one that spouted the words. Back 'em up.
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You want solid concrete proof? Okay, I'd send you the file myself, but it is very large. It's called "Masters of Terror" by Alex Jones. If you know how to use BitTorrent you can download it from various different Bit Torrent sites. Or, if you can figure out a place where I can host a 600mb file, I can send you the link for it after I upload it. In anycase, if you expect me to post every last bit of information regarding it, I would be hardpressed to get it all. I too was EXTREMELY threatened by the truth about sept11th, but after seeing the evidence alex jones provides,a nd looking for the articles and facts he presents by myself, I can say with honesty that sept 11th was infact a big set up by the US government.

Kismit

Dec 7 2004, 09:52 AM

A quick glance at the rules may be highly beneficial ...Link.

Insight

Dec 7 2004, 10:01 AM

QUOTE(Kismit @ Dec 7 2004, 01:52 AM)

A quick glance at the rules may be highly beneficial ...Link.
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I'll admit I have never looked at the rules. I naturally assumed posting links were okay seeing them all around the forums.

Or if I am missing the point here, please let me know. I don't desire to break any further rules.

Blood Angel

Dec 7 2004, 12:59 PM

I think she is referring to pirating son...

MedicTJ

Dec 7 2004, 02:28 PM

QUOTE(Insight @ Dec 7 2004, 09:31 AM)

QUOTE(MedicTJ @ Dec 6 2004, 09:45 PM)

I'm not asking you to point me to a website.

You stated what you believe to be fact. But you gave no basis whatsoever to back it up.

I want concrete, solid proof that my government initiated the 9/11 tragedy.

Concrete, solid evidence.

You made the claim. Now post your evidence. Don't point me to websites. Again, I'm not going to do your work for you. You're the one that spouted the words. Back 'em up.
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You want solid concrete proof? Okay, I'd send you the file myself, but it is very large. It's called "Masters of Terror" by Alex Jones. If you know how to use BitTorrent you can download it from various different Bit Torrent sites. Or, if you can figure out a place where I can host a 600mb file, I can send you the link for it after I upload it. In anycase, if you expect me to post every last bit of information regarding it, I would be hardpressed to get it all. I too was EXTREMELY threatened by the truth about sept11th, but after seeing the evidence alex jones provides,a nd looking for the articles and facts he presents by myself, I can say with honesty that sept 11th was infact a big set up by the US government.
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Ahhh, okay. Would this guy be anything at all like Michael Moore? You know, a guy who twists the truth and facts, and quotes people out of context in order to match the absolute wildness of his claims?

Stellar

Dec 7 2004, 02:29 PM

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Hey Steller, instead of dismissing the truth, look it up yourself.

Huh? I'm not dismissing the truth... I believe in the truth!

QUOTE

The Illuminati's version of history that gets taught to every kid during the 15 years they spend in the indoctrination center known as "school", fails to mention how humanity has had many many periods of history being extremly technologically advanced even more than we are at now.

Ever heard of the Bablylonian era where we lived and were really advanced?

Like I said, history has been shaped and editited to suit the Illuminati.

Oh, yes, those stories again. THe stories where we grow really advanced, then destroy ourselves. Grow really advanced... then destroy ourselves. You'd think that after those 2 billion years of growing so advanced, you'd find some actual proof of it? Honestly, I know about all these claims, and especially the Mahabharata... but I'm not going to claim that theres proof of it (yet at least).

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You make a statement....you back it up. It's that simple. And if you can't back it up, then you'd better start retracting it.

You made the initial statement, and your statement challenged the accepted version of events. You cant disprove a conspiracy theory, its impossible, because they're not falsifiable. Thats why they exist. In order to have any validity, you have to prove the conspiracy theory.

Stellar

Dec 7 2004, 02:30 PM

QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 7 2004, 05:41 AM)

Let me aid you in your wake-up call by giving you a link to a website that will explain the truth to you.

http://davidicke.com/
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Hmm, yes, a website which tells me what the truth is... yet does not prove to me that what it claims is the truth, is really the truth.

MK ULTRA

Dec 7 2004, 03:06 PM

If the New.W.O is real,it must be happening now.
I can see how some relate 911,war on terror,ID cards,etc to governments trying to control us through fear,and they probably are,but is that such a bad thing.
(apart from loss of civil liberties,freedom etc,)

As long as I can practice my magic tricks,play X-Box and cuddle my girlfriend, I'll be OK.Surely they cant take away my snuggle time

Alex Jones is cool but I think some people take it too seriously,dont get me wrong,I have books on stuff like this,the 911 conspiracy is fascinating,in a kinda sick way(bloody internet!!!)but to state that its fact is wrong and disrespectful.
Our Governments are always trying to rip us off,thats what they do.
They have shady things going on and kill people! BUT if thats what it takes to control the masses, fair play.
Its like a jungle out there,Burger King down Brixton on a Saturday night is like a bloody War zone!!! WE NEED ORDER!

But the future is in OUR hands.

MK ULTRA

Dec 7 2004, 03:15 PM

QUOTE(Stellar @ Dec 7 2004, 02:30 PM)

QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 7 2004, 05:41 AM)

Let me aid you in your wake-up call by giving you a link to a website that will explain the truth to you.

http://davidicke.com/
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Hmm, yes, a website which tells me what the truth is... yet does not prove to me that what it claims is the truth, is really the truth.
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David Icke is

He wears nice purple tracksuits to ward off demons! and believes he is the son of God!

HES MAD I TELL YA!

A LOON!

But I have got one of his books!

The queen is a lizard!Hmmm? maybe,hmmm?,,,I can see the resemblance,,,, its all true!!!!!

Redneck

Dec 7 2004, 06:11 PM

QUOTE

You want solid concrete proof? Okay, I'd send you the file myself, but it is very large. It's called "Masters of Terror" by Alex Jones. If you know how to use BitTorrent you can download it from various different Bit Torrent sites. Or, if you can figure out a place where I can host a 600mb file, I can send you the link for it after I upload it. In anycase, if you expect me to post every last bit of information regarding it, I would be hardpressed to get it all. I too was EXTREMELY threatened by the truth about sept11th, but after seeing the evidence alex jones provides,a nd looking for the articles and facts he presents by myself, I can say with honesty that sept 11th was infact a big set up by the US government.

Since you investigated his theories and evaluated his evidence so thoroughly, why don't you just explain it yourself.

Kismit

Dec 8 2004, 09:09 AM

QUOTE

I'll admit I have never looked at the rules. I naturally assumed posting links were okay seeing them all around the forums.

Or if I am missing the point here, please let me know. I don't desire to break any further rules.

I was refering to the offensive language posted by d3v , which was deleted earlier in the thread . I guess I should have worded that one better , sorry .

Insight

Dec 8 2004, 10:04 AM

To the Mods: Sorry, I pirate so much I guess I don't remember that it's illegal. Yes, I admit it. I will not condone pirating any more. Sorry.

Ahhh, okay. Would this guy be anything at all like Michael Moore? You know, a guy who twists the truth and facts, and quotes people out of context in order to match the absolute wildness of his claims?

Noooo no no. Not whatsoever. Moore twists the truth for his own political gain. He present his "facts" which are mostly unfindable by the general public. Alex Jones hates Moore, with good reason. Alex Jones provides information that anyone can find and confirm. He has been doing it for years. I assure you, I hate Moore with a firery passion. But alex Jones is completely different. Don't get me wrong, I love America, and Canada, but I hate what our governments are doing.

Insight

Dec 8 2004, 10:15 AM

Oh, yes, those stories again. THe stories where we grow really advanced, then destroy ourselves. Grow really advanced... then destroy ourselves. You'd think that after those 2 billion years of growing so advanced, you'd find some actual proof of it? Honestly, I know about all these claims, and especially the Mahabharata... but I'm not going to claim that theres proof of it (yet at least).

I didn't think humans have been on this planet over 60,000 years according to evolutionists?

If the New.W.O is real,it must be happening now.
I can see how some relate 911,war on terror,ID cards,etc to governments trying to control us through fear,and they probably are,but is that such a bad thing.
(apart from loss of civil liberties,freedom etc,)

It is when you realize that America planned 9/11 in order to scare us into getting our freedoms and liberties revoked. ID cards are one thing, but having an ID card where you will be arrested if you don't present it? We claim all of this in the name of homeland security, but yet we leave our boarders WIDE open.

As long as I can practice my magic tricks,play X-Box and cuddle my girlfriend, I'll be OK.Surely they cant take away my snuggle time

And that's exactly what they're planning on you thinking. All the while they are destroying the constitution and the bill of rights, both of which made our country Great and free. With out those, we cease to be america.

Alex Jones is cool but I think some people take it too seriously,dont get me wrong,I have books on stuff like this,the 911 conspiracy is fascinating,in a kinda sick way(bloody internet!!!)but to state that its fact is wrong and disrespectful.
Our Governments are always trying to rip us off,thats what they do.

And that makes it alright? And that means we should let them continue?

Never before in the history of america has there ever EVER been an event of this magnitude orchestrated by the government, and then covered up. Never. This is totally new ground. And it is fact. I stand by it. Who am i disrespecting by doing so?

They have shady things going on and kill people! BUT if thats what it takes to control the masses, fair play.

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? Why do they need to control us? AMerica has functioned FINE for 200 years on the consitution and the bill of rights? WHY DO THEY NEED TO CHANGE IT?! No innocent citizen should ever EVER EVER be killed by the government in the name of controlling the masses. And for them to cover it up is a million times worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its like a jungle out there,Burger King down Brixton on a Saturday night is like a bloody War zone!!! WE NEED ORDER!

We have order. We have police, we have laws, we have constitutions, we have rights. We DO NOT NEED our rights taken away for there to be order. Why are our rights being taken away when they need not be? To fight an invisable enemy that doesn't exist? i guess so.

Insight

Dec 8 2004, 10:19 AM

QUOTE(MedicTJ @ Dec 6 2004, 09:56 PM)

I think I've proven this as a complete and utter fake.

You have no evidence to back your claims. You spout your hatred and misinformation with no respect for others.

You've done absolutely nothing to prove your claims, nor will you. Because you can't.
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You seem to be ignoring my claims and evidence. I provided many such things. Believe what you want to believe, for ignorance is bliss.

Just read my posts.

Yes, it is terrible and disgusting to think our government did all this. It's scarey, it's sick, I myself refused to believe or hear ANY of it. But in my efforts to find information to debunk the fact that 911 was a government action, I inadvertantly ended proving to myself that all the "conspiracy nuts" were right.

MK ULTRA

Dec 8 2004, 04:33 PM

I agree the Governments are manipulating us and doing bad things.
But I doubt it will end up like Equilibriem,1984,Ray Bradbury etc,I can see the similarities but at the end of the day who will benefit by the New W.Order.Only a few members of Government in a soul free world.I doubt we will be burning books with microchips in our heads!
I think the illusion of this future is wrong.I hope I am.
But I agree with alot of what you sayin Insight,theres definatly a hidden agenda to what there telling us.911,JFK,Waco,etc,etc,etc.

d3v

Dec 9 2004, 12:27 AM

Sorry for the language but that guy is just ignorant through and through and through.

Everyone spread the truth as much as you can as its the only way to wake everyone up.

Once we are aware, we cannot be tricked and they will fail.

Stellar

Dec 9 2004, 12:42 AM

QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 9 2004, 12:27 AM)

Sorry for the language but that guy is just ignorant through and through and through.

Everyone spread the truth as much as you can as its the only way to wake everyone up.

Once we are aware, we cannot be tricked and they will fail.
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Maybe you're the one thats ignorant!

Insight

Dec 9 2004, 01:49 AM

QUOTE(Stellar @ Dec 8 2004, 04:42 PM)

QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 9 2004, 12:27 AM)

Sorry for the language but that guy is just ignorant through and through and through.

Everyone spread the truth as much as you can as its the only way to wake everyone up.

Once we are aware, we cannot be tricked and they will fail.
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Maybe you're the one thats ignorant!
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Don't pay any attention to this guy D3v. He'll childishly argue with anyone who will listen. He's a very disturbed young man.

Insight

Dec 9 2004, 01:58 AM

I agree the Governments are manipulating us and doing bad things.
But I doubt it will end up like Equilibriem,

Equilibrium? Probably not. But who knows what 1000 years could bring? Did you know they are trying to implepent brain wave scanners in airports to perople can be arrested at the mere thought of evil?

Thought crimes. That does sound a little like Equilibrium. But we are far far off from that.

1984,

1984 is already fully here. In london, they have a camera system set up that recordes everyone's face as they walks by, and if it the face of someone who "is not supoosed to be there", the police are immediately notified. As of yet, criminals, or people on parole are the people who are deemed "Not supposed to be there". But if you ever become an enemy of the tyranical One World Dictatorship, you better believe they'll nad you using it. And that's just ONE of the disturbing facts. i got a million of them, much to my shugrin.

Ray Bradbury etc,I can see the similarities but at the end of the day who will benefit by the New W.Order.Only a few members of Government in a soul free world.

More than a few. Many powerful men will benefit. And we will all be so brainwashed we will love our restricted simple lives. Hitler said, "The masses are weak. If you give them shiny trinkets, cars, toys, and hockey sticks, they will do whatever you want, and you can crush them.

I doubt we will be burning books with microchips in our heads!

The chips are already here and being tested. And the government already controls the media. What you just described is already here.

I think the illusion of this future is wrong.I hope I am.
But I agree with alot of what you sayin Insight,theres definatly a hidden agenda to what there telling us.911,JFK,Waco,etc,etc,etc.

I'd love it if you were wrong. But I know way to much for that to ever be a reality. Even about the three examples you listed there. One World Order is already in place. Now they just have to convice the public that it is a good thing, so they can come out of hiding.

Well I for one will die before they convince me.

aquatus1

Dec 9 2004, 02:01 AM

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