Just more proof of Satanic rituals and child abuse and rape within our goverments and other groups.

This, I hope will get people wodering.

LINK

David Ike....

David Icke is not the finist source for newsworthy material in my opinion. It is kind of like quoting from erik Beckjords website; sure the material is there to quote, but how accurate is it really?

Stop letting your conditioned brainwashed mind kick in all the time and dismiss anything that crosses your "manufactured reality" mark as bullshit.

People must realise they are brought up to dismiss this kind of stuff becuase it is truth.

David Icke is not a fake, I can swear my life to you.

He is one of the greatest humans on this planet for he spreads the truth and that is the only way humnity will free itself from the prison it lives in every day and the dictatorship in lives under.

Yeah....

You do know he thinks the world is secretly run by a group of lizard people, don't you? Funnily, enough, all his odd beliefs only started coming around after he sufferd an injury that resulted in brain damage...

Yes I do know.

That is correct, Reptilians have taken over the planet, they are called the Illuminati.

Read the "What NEEDS to happen" thread for more information.

I can say the same thing about you...about anyone who has a different opinion, it doesn't make it any more right or wrong.

btw, watch your language please. thank you.


I never said he was fake. I have no doubt he believes what he says.

Okay...the quality of your opinon...particuarly your take on David Icke has just dropped off dramatically

Again, stop letting your conditioned mind tell you its crap.

Have u actually read any of the articles on that link???

If you have then i'm quite sure you'll agree that one cannot simply "make it up".....

This from the person who quite merrily admits that his beleifs only started AFTER he received brain damage?

WHat r u talking about?

I knew about Icke, long ago...I have read the articles on his website as well as the articles about Icke on other websites(perhaps you should too, brainwashing works both ways you know)...

I have been around a while and have been a reader of such things for many years longer than you have been alive.

I am open to any idea that stands up to reason and evidence, regardless of the wackiness level...If something falls short of being believeable because there is not a shred of evidence to support it, well...there ya go...

You can believe whatever you choose, it is totally up to you. Icke lost credibility long ago when his concerns for books sales surpassed his concerns for the truth.

Icke isent in it for the money.

He is dedicated to his website and heavily updates it everyday of the year.

Also i've been to his talks and there are so passionate and full of evidence to support everything he says.

Also remember when he was riddiculed so much by the ignorant sheep-brained masses???

Anyone else would of stepped out of his position imediatly.

With that dedication, its safe to say he's not init for the money or the publicity.

He meets with ex-workers who worked "behind the scenes" and for the Illuminato and workers and scientists that work in the secret bases and "black-projects".

This guy is telling the truth.

You must remeber that we are brought up from birth in a manufactured reality where a set of "believables" "unbelieables", "norms", "unnorms", "acceptables", "unacceptables" and so on are programmed into our brains and makes us believe what the Illuminati want us to believe and to dismiss whatever the Illuminati want us to dismiss.

That is why you think such theories are rubbish.

You know, I'm glad you posted this site....some of it's really funny

So you are a mind reader now? How would you know what I think unless I tell you? Why would you claim to know what or why I think what I do?

You seem to miss the point that the brainwashing you keep accusing others of being afflicted with works in both directions. Shaekspeare said it best "I think the lady doth protest too much..."

I have read Ickes' books. He is a talented writer that is for sure. He has gathered a lot of interesting information from many cultures to come up to the opinion he has. he is a fun read too, much like Grisham...

The leap that he makes between lizard/bird type people represented in ancient art and the illuminati is just to much of a leap to be believable in my opinion. he is just too close to being schizoid in his evaluation of the unfolding events of the illuminati and the shape shifting lizard people for my taste.

I never said he wasn't convincing, but after working for years in a hospital with a full floor dedicated to people that suffered paranoid schizoprenic breakdowns, I can tell you that there are many wacky people that are very convincing. Nutters, but convincing nutters.

If you think that he is not in it for the money you are fooling yourself, he has in the past and will continue in the future to seel his books at a nice tidy markup, as well as being compensated rather well for his appearences.

The leap is not huge.

His whole theory on them coming to earth and taking it over is not unbelievable whatsoever.

With trillions of galxies out there, the proability of many other intelligent life-forms is near definate.

The perticular planet the Illuminati reptilians came from is Zeta Rectilum and they devleoped a DNA defect that disabled there ability to re-produce.

Us humans hold the cure; they want to interbreed with us and thats why theres so many underground city-sized places that house woman and children and they interbreed with them to keep there race alive.

I know it sounds totally and utterly unbelievable but i'll prove it for you.

Go onto ur P2P program and search for "Conspiracy" and download the file called "George Bush Sexpose(banned documentary).wmv".

This banned documentory was to be aired on Discovory channel untill the US goverment forced them not to and also to destroy every copy in existance.

Fortuntly someone got in onto the P2P network.

I beg you to watch it and I gurantee you'll have NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that our goverments sexually abuse and perform satanic rituals of human children.

I honestly gurantee you'll have no doubt about the truth if you watch this video.

Zeta Rectilum....they come from a planet that was "rectum" with a couple of extra letters in it?

If you find this video, I will host it on my site and link to it here as I have plenty of bandwidth to burn up...

I don't care of the adware and spyware that comes with p2p software...plus I don't really have any need to share files, so I have steered clear of it...

let me know if you can find it.

Let me get this straight, this is an honest to god debate over whether there are alien lizard people abusing children in our Illuminati-controlled world governments? Is this a joke thread ?

Yes, if there is a forbidden Bush Sexpose that will clear al this up, please let's get a link to it or something.

No I think there's only one person here actually taking the possibility seriously

Hey, as far as you know I could be an alien, reptoid, illuminati, New World Order kinda guy from Zeta Reticulum...here to breed with healthy nubile human women...hmmm...not bad work if you can get it, I guess...

Bunny.

Google for Kazza Lite Ressurection.

Its a free and ad-ware and spyware FREE and very popular file sharing client.

I'm glad your taken interest in this video becuase I will gurantee anyone that watches this video will, at the end, have no doubt whatsoever in their minds that our goverments, even at the highest level, sexually abuse children and use them in satanic ritualistic ways.

How lucky you are that you job is also your hobby Or at least it's my hobby anyway

That's a great point, fluffy. We shall never know...

hmmm....Actually, now that you mention, I think I've gone out with one of the lizard men before... Egad! It's all true!

I haven't seen mocking of such a magnitude since perhaps...dare i say it...BECKJORD!

d3v, is that you Erik? oh please be erik...

back to the topic at hand--but first let me state that i am not an icke believer BUT i do pay attention to what he says about politics and bloodlines- i have a funny feeling he uses the lizard thing (the symbology being obvious-coldblooded bloodsuckers) as a way of protecting himself from being taken out-how else could you expose the top brass and keep your life? by giving them an easy target such as his character he seems to be able to get into more detail without being whacked-

anyway this is relvent here------------------------------------------------------------------

Ted Gunderson, the 27-year FBI veteran, former Los Angeles Senior Special Agent in Charge, shares compelling evidence and keen insight into the notorious McMartin PreSchool alleged child-molestation case. He shows the link between Satanic ritual-abuse, drug trafficking and the international trafficking in children by the CIA.

Ted shares the stage with Linda Wiegand, a mother who has suffered the grief of having lost her two boys to her ex-husband. A man accused by the children of sexuality molesting them under intimidation and threats to their life, and later given custody of them by the court.

This video is a must for anyone who is truly interested in the truth about what is going on behind closed doors in this nation and the world!
75 min lecture about the McMartin case
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/multimedia/CIA_satanism.html

Ted Gunderson's Resume

1977-79

Senior Special Agent-in-Charge*

Los Angeles, California


1973-77

Special Agent-in-Charge
Memphis, Tennessee and Dallas, Texas


1973

Chief Inspector


1965-73

Asst Special Agent-in-Charge
New Haven, Connecticut and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


1960-65

Special Agent Supervisor
FBI Headquarters, Washington, D.C.


1951-60

Special Agent

____________________________________________________

*Prior to his retirement in 1979, Ted Gunderson had over 700 persons under his command and operated a $22 million annual budget.

* Los Angeles Olympic Committee
Consultant, 1984

* California Narcotics Authority
Consultant appointed by Governor Jerry Brown, 1981-82

* Pan American Games Security Coordinator
San Juan, Puerto Rico, 1979
Special Appointee of US Attorney General Griffin B. Bell

* Alumni Highest Effort Award in the Field of Law Enforcement
Sigma Alpha Epsilon, 1977

* Law Enforcement Officer of the Year Award
AFL-CIO Metal Trades Council, Los Angeles, California, 1977

http://www.tedgunderson.com/Index.html

http://www.tedgunderson.com/BookandTapes.htm

Thanks for more evidence.

Now those of you who were mocking me, wheres your opologies, lol.

well until you can prove that they are reptillians from zeta reticullum, no apolgies tanks:)

thats funny sh** man.
Its the lizard thing d3v,the lizard thing

I agree,there is probably satanism,and really sick stuff going on within Governments but I say no to Lizards.

Cheers Sunofone,this looks interesting.