d3v
Dec 10 2004, 04:41 PM
THIS video is is solid proof that the US goverment orcestrated 9/11 and is also solid proof of the New World Order is HERE and will get stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger the longer you remain ignorant.
The first 20 minutes shows various examples of the goverment creating problems that benifit them throuout history.
Then the video goes on to provide absolute solid 100% proof that the US goverment knew, punded, trained and let the two towers get hit by those planes.
Then the last part proves the NWO is here and expalins why they want such things as ID cards, micro-chips, ect ect.
Please do watch this video as it'll no doubt convince those that arnt convinced that our goverments ARE evil and DO commit the atrocaties they blame on others.
MK ULTRA
Dec 10 2004, 04:50 PM
Cheers d3.
d3v
Dec 10 2004, 04:52 PM
QUOTE(MK ULTRA @ Dec 10 2004, 05:50 PM)
Cheers d3.

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No. Thank YOU.
seeking
Dec 10 2004, 05:12 PM
can someone who watched it sum it up as too how it proves 100% i have a low speed connection, thanks
d3v
Dec 10 2004, 05:37 PM
He provides dozens of coduments that have been released by the US gov, CIA, FBI and alot of mainstream news articles and alot of unquestionable evidence that says the US govermnet did 9/11.
Mad Manfred
Dec 10 2004, 06:15 PM
Some specifics?
d3v
Dec 10 2004, 06:18 PM
QUOTE(Mad Manfred @ Dec 10 2004, 07:15 PM)
Some specifics?
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Watch the vid u lazy.
Stellar
Dec 10 2004, 06:18 PM
How long is it, again? Ill watch it when I get home once I find the time.
d3v
Dec 10 2004, 06:20 PM
QUOTE(Stellar @ Dec 10 2004, 07:18 PM)
How long is it, again? Ill watch it when I get home once I find the time.
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Hour and a half I think.
I liked it so much, I lost track on how long I wathced it for.
Mad Manfred
Dec 10 2004, 06:22 PM
QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 11 2004, 05:18 AM)
QUOTE(Mad Manfred @ Dec 10 2004, 07:15 PM)
Some specifics?
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Watch the vid u lazy.
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I thought you had to buy it...then I scrolled down and saw the video...I'm a dingbat
I'll watch it tomorrow, 5:30am...time for bed.
Frosty
Dec 11 2004, 06:07 AM
Uh, still no proof. And I'll remind you that the government is not the only entity to ever create a problem to help its agenda. This proves nothing other than you can be duped by the way Jones says(exerts) certain words and phrases: notice the way he uses his hands, his eyebrow movements, tone changes, changes in attitudes, way his head shakes, way he throws his entire body into certain words and phrases. Simply put, he is a great orator like Gore who uses the techniques to seduce you.
Nero burnt Rome!? LMFAO!
Insight
Dec 11 2004, 06:12 AM
Uh, still no proof. And I'll remind you that the government is not the only entity to ever create a problem to help its agenda. This proves nothing other than you can be duped by the way Jones says(exerts) certain words and phrases: notice the way he uses his hands, his eyebrow movements, tone changes, changes in attitudes, way his head shakes, way he throws his entire body into certain words and phrases. Simply put, he is a great orator like Gore who uses the techniques to seduce you.
You cannot imagine how much study I have done into human facial symmetry, facial muscles, face expression, and muscle tendentcies. I can virtually read a person's mind by looking at their face. While you aregument may sound compelling, it is nothing more than that of a childs who does not know how to accept the truth. You are looking for any way possible to remain in your comfortable little world.
It doesn't matter WHAT Alex Jones says. the FACT of the matter is that all the information is there. Read it for your damned self for once. I have read virtually every article he has metioned and more. I have even found many he hasn't ever mentioned. The facts are there to those who want to prove something. You present no facts whatsoever in your statement: only your primitive and shallow opinions. Well, opinion does not effect FACT.
Your losing you fight.
Insight
Dec 11 2004, 06:13 AM
QUOTE(seeking @ Dec 10 2004, 09:12 AM)
can someone who watched it sum it up as too how it proves 100% i have a low speed connection, thanks
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That would take me two hours of writing.
Raistlin Majere
Dec 11 2004, 06:24 AM
Hey asshole, these things have been debunked I don't know how many times!
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
Frosty
Dec 11 2004, 08:12 AM
Insight, what are you rambling about? I have taken courses in psychology and from what I have studied the way Alex Jones moves about during his speeches is a means for him to facilitate his message.
LMAO, Alex Jones first two examples in that video are highly susceptible to speculation. It has been well studied by many that Nero was on bad terms with the aristocrats of Rome (who hated his plans for new construction and oddly enough it was a descendant of one of these aristos that wrote the history of the fire hundreds of years later with no evidence to corroborate his claims), that the Christians were some of the largest supporters of Nero at the time, and that evidence has been offered by researchers to conclude that the fires most likely were started the way Nero said them to be. PBS did a great program a few years back which basically concluded that what Nero originally said might have been the truth beyond a reasonable doubt. Second, the USS Main was not blown up by the Navy. It was widely publicized in the late 70's that a spontaneous combustion of coal in the bunker next to the magazine was the dominant cause of the explosion. A simple misunderstanding due to a highly volatile situation.
d3v
Dec 11 2004, 09:37 AM
Frosty, I cant believe this video has not convinced you.
Raistlin Majere
Dec 11 2004, 12:53 PM
Hasn't convinced him because it's fake.
Mad Manfred
Dec 11 2004, 01:19 PM
Sorry d3v, I'm skeptical aswell.
First I have a question...does this Alex Jones have a credible track record? Or is he just another vocal conspiracy theorist?
Think about it...if he was right, as he likes to remind everyone continuously that he is, in that he has been watching/studying and debating these facts for years and years, wouldn't this "powerfully evil and corrupt" government take him out?
Another thing - those facts he keeps mentioning can be interpreted in many different ways...he seems hell bent on twisting every shred of news coverage on the WTC into some contrived evil conspiracy.
I believe he has evidence. Concrete evidence. However, as I said, he's twisting it.
d3v
Dec 11 2004, 02:01 PM
U guys piss me off.
I cant believe you stil trust the goverments side of 9/11 after all that bloody proof
His track record is excellent.
He's got his own radio show and TV show and does TV and radio interviews daily.
Mad Manfred
Dec 11 2004, 02:24 PM
QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 12 2004, 01:01 AM)
U guys piss me off.
I cant believe you stil trust the goverments side of 9/11 after all that bloody proof
His track record is excellent.
He's got his own radio show and TV show and does TV and radio interviews daily.
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I don't trust your governments side of the story either. They're notorious bullshitters.
I don't see how this guy is any different.
Better the devil you know, eh?
d3v
Dec 11 2004, 02:26 PM
Well anyway, i'm burning this vid along with all the other solid proof vids onto CD's and i'm gonna give em out free to as many people as I can.
Chris_com28
Dec 11 2004, 03:07 PM
QUOTE
Hey asshole, these things have been debunked I don't know how many times!
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htmThat's only a small fraction of the evidence. There's still many questions about 911 and even the Pantagon attack that need answering.
Raistlin Majere
Dec 11 2004, 04:39 PM
I'll tell you why the targeting was off on the Pentagon, it's because the people on the plane resisted. On the black box, you could hear "LET'S GET HIM!" and other fighting sounds and screamings, similar to the plane that crashed in pensylvania on 9/11.
Noob Siabot
Dec 11 2004, 07:11 PM
Question: Why exactly would the US Gov. want to pull a 9/11? I mean for what purpose? It doesn't make too much sense.
By the way, does anyone remember that show the Lone Gunmen? Remember how in the very 1st episode they stop a government conspiricy to crash an passenger plane into one of the twin towers? Just makes you think...
d3v
Dec 11 2004, 07:19 PM
Siabot, the reason they did 9/11 was to start the war in Iraq and to get the Patriot act law in amounst other things.
This method is called problem-reaction-solution and has been used throughout history by the goverment and rulers.
They create a problem, the public panic and demans a solution and then they give the solution to the problem they have created and this solution benifits them.
Do you think the US goverment could of got the patriot act law through congress without 9/11 happening?
I suggest you research this more becuase the more people do, the higher the chance we stop this impending Germany 1936 nazi fascist police state thats being implimented imcrimently under the guise and excuse of "terroism".
Stellar
Dec 11 2004, 07:24 PM
The gov could have pulled off the same things with far less effort and risk. Just because maybe the patriot act couldnt have passed without 9/11 doesnt mean the government staged 9/11.
d3v
Dec 11 2004, 07:35 PM
Amoung many other things...
Not just the patriot act.
Frosty
Dec 11 2004, 09:18 PM
QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 11 2004, 08:01 AM)
U guys piss me off.
I cant believe you stil trust the goverments side of 9/11 after all that bloody proof
His track record is excellent.
He's got his own radio show and TV show and does TV and radio interviews daily.
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Well, Stalin had his own country, but that doesn't make him any more credible than a street preacher. Stalin was well known for having conspiracy theories just like Mr.Jones. That's scary! Why does Mr. Jones spit out the same rhetoric as a blood thirsty savage such as STalin? In fact, I believe that Lenin and Stalin's theories of a secret society within the US consisting of Western-Zionist-Capitalist trying to overthrow the first worker-peasant state in history have carried over from sympathizers of communism/USSR here in the US and may be responsable for why many believe in such theories.
d3v
Dec 11 2004, 09:20 PM
lol thats utter crap.
The reason people believe in these theories is becuase there so obvious and theres so much proof about them all.
Frosty
Dec 11 2004, 09:29 PM
You think so? Go ahead and read the Sword and the Shield by Christopher Andrew and Visili Mitrokhin and then tell me if what Jones is saying is any different than what stalin and Lenin were saying.
d3v
Dec 11 2004, 09:32 PM
QUOTE(Frosty @ Dec 11 2004, 10:18 PM)
[carried over from sympathizers of communism/USSR here in the US and may be responsable for why many believe in such theories.
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Sorry, I should of been more specific.
That it was I doubted.
Frosty
Dec 11 2004, 09:36 PM
Still, it does not scare you that the man you listen to is saying the same thing that Stalin said to oppress and murder his people? Stalin's claims had no factual basis. Mr. Jones's claims as well seem to be quite lacking in fact or evidence. He gives a good pseudo-history lesson but really nothing more.
d3v
Dec 11 2004, 09:43 PM
he provides solid proof for christ sake.
Hes' holding up mainstream media reports and articles supporting his claims one after the other throuout the videos.
C'mon... what is wrong with you?
Frosty
Dec 11 2004, 09:47 PM
I never saw any such articles or proof. If you could state them I would be more than willing to examine them, but as of right now I will be logged off while I go to work.
Good-bye everybody.
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