OK i am a director/photographer, and whenever i see orbs...i just laugh. in photo terms orbs are something called "camera flares" its when the subject in frame is backlit, and the image bounces back off the immolation. here is pics of a website i found to demonstrate a camera failure, which is really just a product of a bad photographer...
note i have no iffilition with this site, it was just the best example i could find. oh yah and if your ever in the prof camera world, and you take something with flare, you'll probably be fired..so

http://www.flarebuster.com/

Hymmmm... you've got a point there you know. I did already think that orbs were fake, but now there's proof. Hopefully people will realize the proof. Thanks for that comparison.......

no prob:) i just always laugh when im on the set or the production room and people always get so pissed about flare, when some of you worship a simple problem as a result of a bad DP., or camera operator

THere's proof, it's called insects and dust.

I feel the same way about orbs... I dont see how little balls of light resemble a ghost.. oh well.

I also think that dust is our little culprit for orbs. Then again, there are tons of dust around us, so the chances of dozens of orbs popping up in photographs would deem possible, but we usually only catch one or two...


IamFS, if you are a professional I'd like for you to analyze a photograph...well a photograph of a photograph. I'll have to digitally scan it using a "digi-cam" and I'll post it up in here.

It depicts a lady in the far end of the field in the bushes. However what surprised me is that she is translucent. You are fairly able to make out the bushes and stems behind her. Well I'll post it up now

the true definition of an orb is a ball of energy, it has its own flight path, and emits its own light, orbs ARE REAL, but they do not mean a paranormal presense is present, all it means is that there is enough energy in the area to produce itself, an orb very well can be a spirit but it is impossible to prove, a lot of orbs that apear on photos or video are actually just dust reflecting light, or imperfections in the shot, digital cameras are known to create false orbs

sure i would love to analize it blue scorpion! from what i know about what you have told me w/out seeing the pic, well first off was it film you used or a digital camera? first off with film. OK im guessing it was a picture exposed twice. also known as a double neg. ive done many many photo projects using this. the most common way i do it is to sandwhich two negs togeather and wet print them from there. but for the everyday piture taker, its usually a problem where you use the same role of fim twice. perhaps you took a picture of a woman, then u took a pic of a feild or whatever you took, and were exposed on the same neg? there are many factors to this, but thts the most obvious.

I posted it in the this thread. Here's the direct Post:
Apparition Photos

Actually no it wasn't a double neg. My dad is a highly-skilled photographer and he did not do a double exposure. Just taken at random intervals. But look at the photos yourself

um im sorry i dont see anyhting. it jsut looks like a nice feild wiht a man in the right hand corner

for your info...orbs are real, it's just energy...don't laugh about something that it's just energy around or energy of a spirit...read about orbs before making a comment like that.

trsut me ive read about orbs...orbs are a result of light bouncing back off the film...yes light is energy, so ill buy that tht haha im sorry nothign paranormal about a simple bad photograph

People are too hooked on the idea of ghost pictures, so any amount of information to counter that will have no result afterwards. I made "orb pictures" and people thought it was actual ghosts. Old ideas die hard.

agreed...i jsut dont understand why some people wont jsut accept that light is wht makes up a photograph. itis almost ipodssible to predic light wihtout taming it within a studio, so somehitngs always gogin to come up wrong.

orbs are not just light reflecting on a camera lense, they are actual balls of energy, physical phenomena(sp?)

yes light reflecting on the camera lens do cause the majority of orb photos but that does not mean all are just that

and again orbs do not prove the existance of a ghost, all its proves is the presense of energy

yes...energy Created* by light. i will buy that, but i highly doubt there is large amounts of natural ***visable*** uncontrolled energy flaiing itself about....and i mean why can we see it only through a photo...hmmm back to my point of it being a flare of light enegy if you will, reflecting itself off of the immulsion....

actually energy giving off its own light, and orbs are not actually invisable but so faint that the human eye can not pick it up as it is blinded by the sun or anyother light source

this is also why orbs taken in a dark room where the camera flash was used are almost always bunk

there have been cases of people wittnessing orbs

and orbs are not actually invisable but so faint that the human eye can not pick it up as it is blinded by the sun or anyother light source

llies!!!!!! a camera is modled exactly the same way the human eye is. we can see anyhting a camera can. ignorance is stupid...

There are various other photographs other than orbs. Apparitions also can be caught on camera. It's all a matter of where and what your looking at IamFS.

And you didn't comment on my photos. I enlarged and zoomed the photos. It isn't hard to spot the apparition, if it is.

She's in the center of all the photos....

EDIT: Removed.

i can say that i did not know an average everyday camera is modded EXACTLY how the human eye is, because i got 20/20 vision, how many other people have that? everyone? whos eye is it modded after? and why mod a camera exactly as a human eye if we can mod it to be better? ignorance is stupid

The examples of 'orbs' you used look nothing like the ones I've seen claimed to be ghosts-yours actually resembled light. I really do not even see how it could be considered similar to the orbs posted on this forum, they look completely different to me. Also many orbs have been photographed in an enviroment that could not produce such an effect due to lighting, so I can't say I buy your reasoning.

Recently, I posted a link about digital cameras being able to pick up light in the infrared spectrum... I didn't write the piece, however I did some research and found it to be accurate... I'm not an expert though and choose to believe that orbs are something of interest and not just light... While I agree that light will play tricks on us and our photos, I dont think this is the case all the time...

digi cams are notoriously known for creating false orbs

and again like stephanie was saying true orbs have a proper definition

1 sphear

2 emit OWN light

3 distint flight pattern

orbs DO exist, you can not say they dont, but orbs do NOT mean spirits are present, just that they may be

IamFS, you are 100% correct in everything you've said. Nothing has harmed the paranormal more than "orbs." Among other things, I conduct research for true "ghost" programs aired on TLC, History & Discovery Channels. For the past few years, it seems almost every time I contact someone at a location we would like to feature, I get, "You're not with that bunch of orb-chasers, are you?," or words to that effect.

"Orbs" were declared "spirits" or "ghosts" in 1995 when Sharon Gill and Dave Oester of the IGHS started taking photos with a digital camera. These two individuals, although first class charlatans, are so obtuse they may actually believe such light reflections are paranormal in nature.

The only "orbs" of a paranormal nature are ghost lights, recurring phenomena--visible to the naked eye--such as the spherical orange light that appears at Bacon's Castle in Virginia. I once saw a photo of the Bacon's Castle ghost light and I can tell you, it looked absolutely nothing like the "orbs" I see on the internet.

why thank you. and blue scorpion..there i nothing supernturl in your picture.

The orbs I have seen, and I see all of the time, are balls of light. CAlling on ancestors, and other Guardians, brings them around even more. My belief is from seeing and experiencing.

You see orbs?... Ya, and I see dead people...

haha good one !

I'm afraid anyone who refuses to take IamFS's side on this one is deluding themselves.

Orbs, as photographed, are all completely and rediculously fake. Could a ball of energy manifest it's self to the untrained eye? Perhaps.

i can say that i did not know an average everyday camera is modded EXACTLY how the human eye is, because i got 20/20 vision, how many other people have that?

Everyone. If they don't, they use special corrective len's called glasses.

everyone? whos eye is it modded after?

Don't be coy. You know what he was saying. you're just avoiding the truth because it feels so good to believe in.

I do not deny that there may be an existance of spherical shaped energy in this world. Just as there may be an existance of working time machines. But to argue for them is really quite futile when you can never truely know what they are.

why thank you, im glad everyone isnt camera-stupid, and has some respect for the fact that everything may not be haunted

I'm not claiming orbs are or are not ghosts, just that his explanation is ridiculous for a lot of the cases of orbs, and to present his views as fact under all instances, is evidence he obviously doesnt know the subject as well as he claims.

just to clear something up for insight, i DO NOT believe orbs are ghosts, spirits or anything other than energy i am not trying to defend that, all i am saying is that orbs do exist, there are genuine photos and video of orbs that can not be explained away as camera flare, dust, or insects, i am just saying you can not claim something is false just because there are some explanations for it, just because a camera flare or dust can cause the appearances of an orb does not mean that is the answer for ALL cases, thats like saying a child was kidnapped but the police later realized the child ran away, when the next person calls the police to report a kidnapping they are not going to say the kid ran away because that could be one of the answers, you have to look at all possibilites every time

just to clear something up for insight, i DO NOT believe orbs are ghosts, spirits or anything other than energy i am not trying to defend that, all i am saying is that orbs do exist, there are genuine photos and video

I know. I've seen the videos. And I do not believe they should be called "orbs" because of the negative connotations and speculation surronding that word. How about we call them "sphere's".

i think they should just say what they are, balls of light, balls of energy, sphears, or what every, but i too agree they shouldnt say orb as people automatically jump to conclusions and say ghost, kinda like UFO, most people use the term UFO to describe an alien space craft and dont even understand that a bird you've never seen before is infact a UFO

ugh whatever...i dont really care that much...you guys are alllll right! im totally wrong. mystery energy shoots out form the sun and only apperas on photos, and sometimes their...get this ghosts...as for camera flare, its jsut a myth...

its not a myth not all orbs are fake some are real and has been a proven fact

I don't think that you're wrong, I just think that everyone has diffrent beliefs and opinions in regards to orbs. The information that you gave was very interesting, as was everyone elses suggestions.
I guess that's what I enjoy about these boards is that you can see BOTH sides of a topic.
As for me, I believe in the existence of ghosts, but that's not to say I believe that every picture with an orb in it is a ghost.

When has an “orb” not visible to the naked eye been proven “real” and by whom?

I have noticed when watching tv, especially local news broadcasts filmed at night, there are “orbs” all over the place. I have seen “orbs” in movies, etc., all produced by the camera. Yet, no one calls these “orbs” spirits or “balls of energy,” they are accepted for what they are refractions of light, etc. Also, I have to wear glasses for distant vision and when walking at night, I am able to see “orbs” produced by the glass in the eyeglasses, particularly in the vicinity of street lights. If I take off my glasses, the orbs disappear.

What puzzles me about this subject is that people cannot seem to comprehend that there is nothing magical about a camera and it absolutely cannot photograph objects invisible to the naked eye. The flash from dust particles, etc., when close to the lens and flash, simply bounce back producing a flash. If there, were, indeed, balls of energy floating about everywhere, we would be able to see them.

There have been ghosts captured on film, not the ridiculous “ectoplasm” that is nothing but flare, but human- and animal-shaped apparitions. Some people believe this “proves” the camera is capable of photographing something invisible to the naked eye; it does not. Any photographer knows that when looking at photos later, there are often people, vehicles, smokestacks, etc. in photographs that were not observed at the time the photo was taken. This doesn’t mean these objects weren’t there; we just didn’t see them. The apparitions caught on film such as the monk-like figure in a British church, the figure of Lord Combermere sitting in his library, the “Staircase Ghost,” etc. would have been visible to the naked eye. The reason they were not seen while the photograph was being taken is simply because the photographer wasn’t looking for ghosts.

Orbs are true, I have seen them with my naked eyes, more than one occassion. It doesn't matter what everyone else thinks about them, I have seen them. And I don't drink, smoke or do drugs, so my mind is clear! They are true to me, that's all that matters.

I also have witnesses who have seen them with me!

camera flares are normally very easy to distinguish but there are the flares that show up which dont quite look like a flare and those are the ones people believe to be orbs, most of them are flares, and then some of them are not, and then some of them are inconclusive, just becasue something can be explained as something else does not mean that is the only answer

Such lights visible to the naked eye are as old as history itself and in most instances, there is no rational explanation for them. They have various names: fairy lights, corpse candles, nature lights, etc.

The fake “orbs” we are discussing are those that appear in photos but are not visible to the naked eye.

what is to say "real orbs" are visible to the naked eye, they can very well apear for that instant that the camera goes off

The lights–I despise the word “orb”–to which I was referring do not normally appear instantly, then vanish. Most such lights can be observed for a sustained period of time. I have seen such lights myself as well as photographs of this type phenomena and, again, they look nothing like the “orbs” being passed off as spirits, balls of energy or whatever.

i was being scarastic..hell orbs are as real as alf....JUST

i find it hard to believe ALL cases are camera flares, im not the only one on here stating there have been cases that can not be explained

Doesn’t it bother any of you who are convinced “orbs” are paranormal that it was Dave Oester & Sharon Gill, two con-artists with $35 mail order degrees in metaphysics, who first made this claim?

Prior to declaring himself ghost-hunter extraordinnaire, “Dr.” Dave, by his own admission, worked as an insurance salesman, accountant (no degree), business consultant, oil & gas driller, paralegal technician (whatever that is, never saw a paralegal referred to as a “technician”) and professional treasure hunter. He formed several corporations in the state of Oregon, all of which went under, and relocated to New Mexico.

I had the displeasure of meeting the good “doctors” at a seminar in St. Augustine, Florida. Oester is a total buffoon. He appeared wearing shorts and a dirty t-shirt and when he addressed the audience, instead of standing at the podium, he sat on the edge of the stage with his legs spread, offering the audience a most undesirable view. His presentation was both tiresome and ridiculous. He had apparently memorized certain information and during the question and answer session, kept repeating himself. The man is obviously incapable of an original thought.

“Dr.” Sharon Gill, the photography expert who decides which “orbs” are “real,” obtained her training in a correspondence course through the New York Institute of Photography. By her own admission, she has worked in nursing (no degree or certification), as a paralegal technician (again) and outdoor wildlife (where else would wildlife be?) photographer.

Oester and Gill, neither of whom can hold a job, formed the IGHS to make money. (If you don’t believe me, look at all the PayPal links on their website.) The fact they have been able to sell their absurd theories proves only one thing: There are a lot of gullible people in this world.