QUOTE(beowulf @ Dec 16 2004, 10:02 AM)
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jesus did so live
Wow, you are so positive, you must have some secular contemporary proof of "The Man"! You wouldn't mind sharing it with us would you? Please, we do not accept any "proof" after 28 CE nor feelings in your heart or any other thing like that. Faith and $1.25 might buy you a cup of coffee, but not anything else!

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What makes you the undisputed expert of the Christian religion? I know more about it than you could ever possibly imagine, yet you parade yourself around here only posting in response to anyone who claims to believe in God. I never see you around any of the other forums. It seems like your whole life revolevs around disproving God's existance. What a sad thing for you.
You will never see God, because you are too afraid of the consequences if you actually did. Do you actually believe your "proof" is going to sway the true believers faith? If you do, you are wasting your time.
I myself am living proof that God truely does exist in the christian sense:
Before I gave my life fully to Christ I used to be a drug addict. I have done Magic Mushrooms well over 600 times, and LSD at least 150 times. I have smoked so much pot I could even begin to know how much it has been in total. I have had slavia that took me to another dimension. I have tried drugs you probably haven't ever heard of like LSA, 2-cb, 2-ct7, Dextromethorphan, and Dipenhydramine, to name a few. I have abused Codine, Cocaine heavily, Crack, and even smoked heroin a few times. I've stayed up for weeks on Crystal Meth. I've done Ecstacy at least 40 times. I've tried peyote, and the derivative mescalin. I've even huffed gasses. I used to drink a mickey of whiskey a day at least. I did so many drugs I couldn't support myself properly, and often chose food over drugs. And I used to mix them all too. I used to combine them for different effects. It was my hobby. It was my art. It was my science. It was my LIFE. I did so many drugs I'm lucky to still be alive, and I am deadly seriously about this. I ended up in the hospital more than once. And I can assure you, drugs are not the way to God. They are not the path to God. And they will not show you God. Trust me, I thought I saw God on many occasions. I even thought I talked to him. But it was all deceptions.
I couldn't quit. No matter how I tried, I couldn't quit. No matter how I wanted to, and believe me, I wanted to, I couldn't quit. i went to Rehab 3 times. I went to alcoholics anonymous. I tried it all. And the only thing that worked, and I mean the ONLY thing that worked was having God come into my life. Infact, you could say that I would be dead right now if it wasn't for him. Either that, or I would be in jail, or living on the streets. Now I have been blessed with wealth, a house, and everything I need. And none of it could have happened without divine intervetion.
I don't know of you know what it is like to be addicted to drugs. You prbably don't. But lests just say i was to the point of criminal activity, even stealing from my best friends, just so I could get my next hookup. Nothing was going to stop it. I was to the point where I would inject cocaine while I was at WORK!
God, and God alone got me out of it all. Now, tell me that he doesn't exist. I'm living proof. Go head, deny my own existance. Prove that I'm not alive. Because the only way you can prove that God doesn't exist would be if you proved I didn't either.
Give it your best shot.
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Is it just me, or do you sound just like George W. Bush!