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kzkid
hi guys,

i dont know if this actual topic belongs here but i didnt know where else i can voice it.

anyway,

The iraq war... "shock and awe" bush claimed. "saddam is caught" bush claims. "road to peace in iraq" bush claimed.

after all that was said and done..

really? what good freeing iraq from saddam and his dictatorship do?

NOTHING. angry.gif

is Iraq free? free from saddam maybe but with all the violence and killings and terriorist bombings hasn't stop so really what was the point of going to war with iraq?

in my opinion, utterly it was stupid to begin with.

What do you guys think? i'd like to know what peoples thoughts are on the current situation in iraq and of any rumours in regards to what is next on the agenda of the "NWO" or in my retrospect, america... (no offence to anyone) yes.gif

Frosty
Well at least now the Iraqi people can partake in peaceful elections, for a start. They no longer have to worry about ending up with a metal slug in their skull after speaking out against Saddam. The Kurds won't worry anymore of the "chemical" attacks. The economy for one will benefit the best froma ll this. Saddam imposed a brutal fascist pseudo-socialist economy in which he siphoned off a lot of money intended for the nations infrastucture (oil for food scandal) and offered very little options towards other markets. Iraq's economy seemed wholy based on oil and gas, now with an more open market, other business opputunities will arise.
kzkid
true true.. hopefully the status quo of Iraq can be formed into a peaceful and working economical and political country.

and i know if saddam wasn't brought down, then who knows where the world will be at in say the next few years.

it's just that, the only thing that seems to amaze me in complete resentment, is that now it seems like nothing is being done with the sucide bombings, killings and violence that is still a common occurence in Iraq.

Maybe there is? Maybe the media is too blame for not conveying this? sleepy.gif

But as with all conspiracies,

it totally seems like america went into war, got what they wanted, got the black gold (oil) they have been after for the past 10 or so years, and along the way freed iraq from saddam, captured saddam, freed iraq into a democratic nation, and now its like nothing happened, everything that happens now is all hush hush...

what is seriously going on.... thats my concern. unsure.gif
Insight


it's just that, the only thing that seems to amaze me in complete resentment, is that now it seems like nothing is being done with the sucide bombings, killings and violence that is still a common occurence in Iraq.


That's because nothing can be done. How do you fight an enemy who you cannot see, and who acts so slowly?

Suicide bombings have been going on for decades. The only way they'll stop is if the entire muslim religion is wiped out. Or the other way around.
Stellar
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Suicide bombings have been going on for decades. The only way they'll stop is if the entire muslim religion is wiped out. Or the other way around.


Lol, funny thing actually... People come here complaining because when they asked someone "How do we make ourselves safer?" they respond with "We nuke the muslims."

Sure, its not fair, its not just, its not morally correct... but its a method.


Edit: Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying we should, I'm saying that the people have answered the question...

Btw, heres something to think about...

During the cold war, US and UK officials were being kidnapped and killed constantly... The US and UK didnt know what to do anymore... they didnt want to deal with the kidnappers, and thus, they were in a bind. One day, the kidnappers kidnapped soviet officials. The soviets rounded up the kidnappers families, cut them into pieces, and sent the pieces to the kidnappers. No further soviets were kidnapped.

Now, on the outside, it seems quite easy to answer this. "We cant stoop to their level and kill innocents!" Now, think about it harder... If you do it, you kill maybe 5 innocents, but the kidnappers might end up stopping their kidnappings and murders, thus saving possibly more than 5 innocent lives. If you dont do it, sure, you dont have blood on your hands, but the kidnappings and murders continue, and more than 5 deaths occure as a result.

Quite a moral bind, wouldnt you say?
Art Vandelay
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t's just that, the only thing that seems to amaze me in complete resentment, is that now it seems like nothing is being done with the sucide bombings, killings and violence that is still a common occurence in Iraq.


If you've got somebody willing enough to strap a bomb to their body and run into a crowd what "CAN" you do about? You can't police everybody and if the U.S. tried something like that then the situation would be even worse because we would 'truly' be percieved as the 'occupiers' like the terrorists are already claiming and it would only get more of the citizens to follow the terrorists own beliefs about 'jihad' and such.....things would be MUCH worse, it's up to the Iraqi citizens to start protecting their own asses and not just relying on outside help........
kzkid
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If you've got somebody willing enough to strap a bomb to their body and run into a crowd what "CAN" you do about?  You can't police everybody and if the U.S. tried something like that then the situation would be even worse because we would 'truly' be percieved as the 'occupiers' like the terrorists are already claiming and it would only get more of the citizens to follow the terrorists own beliefs about 'jihad' and such.....things would be MUCH worse, it's up to the Iraqi citizens to start protecting their own asses and not just relying on outside help........
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who said that i will do something about it? if i were a leader of a country then of course, i would?

and i think it is abit to too late to worry about being "precieved" as "occupiers" i mean, we did invade their country, and for what cause? WMDS that no one has even any evident of that has been found.. dont you find that funny blink.gif

hehehe all in all, im just wondering what the hell is happening now with Iraq, i mean from the media point of view, yeh election this, yeh peaceful that... but,
what is was the purpose.

I guess ill just sit back, and wait til ww3.. and we'll see what happens. maybe even find out reasons why....

oh btw, ww3, lead by a military might of asia, in which im certain america will fall. and have everything to do, with Israel.
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