Has anyone heard of the string theory? the one theory that apparently would unite everything in the universe by just the one law, ie general relativity, gravity, EMagnetism, quantum universes, etc etc....

What really really interest's me the most is, with string theory or M theory, they've sprouted another theory from it called membranes, and that our universe is in fact part of a membrane within another space which also holds other membranes that hold parallel universes or universes...

im sorry if i cannot explain it the way i read about it but i cant stop but to think about... i mean.. what if? i mean what is more than that vast black thing with stars and galaxies and planets called space.. what is beyond the universe??

as string theory have explain.. the universe does stop somewhere...and if u want to think of it this way.. our universe is only one individual chip in one big pack of doritos..with other individual chips.....

making me hungry hehee what do u guys think?

yea ive just finished reading the elegant universe and actually watching the nova program based on the book, i believe in the theory, i dont know if i believe in it as far as the parallel universes but either way it is a very interesting topic

I too have read the Elegant Universe, good book; I like Greene's writing style.

You can watch the nova special on the elegant universe here. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html

what if we are just part of another species body or entitie?

we never know...

perhaps we even have thousands of civilization within our own body!! and they are all thinking...what is behond


or perhaps we can be part of a chip


if this is true..makes you think what people call God. We would be part of him or her or it...haha if they only knew it was only a chip

I really wish to read that book, I am waiting impatiently to buy it...soon...soon or maybe he will bring it to me


thank you 4dplane for the link, I will definitly check it out.


ThePortal

does any one remember that movie, i think MIB.. in which at the end, the camera pans out of earth, pans out of the universe, then it pans out to our universe being literally marbles played by two big ass aliens...


i wonder....


which one of them...


is winning?

What do you mean by general realativty? Do you mean to some how discredit Einstein's theory of relativity? Einstein's theory of relativity applied to everything in the universe no matter the size of the vacuum, absolutness of the vacuum, or any other such case.

it is an interesting theory, i wounder what is beyond what we know,maybe we are in a matrix like set up. i guess ill never know well not in my life time ne way

A nice primmer, as well-

Fermilab Lecture-

Prof. Steinhardt

Princeton-

Dept. of Physics

Hell yes, Fermilab should be operational by 2007; by 2008 we should have some serious new insight on how the universe works. Gravitons and sparticles.

Hey this is a research paper I did for my Astronomy class; it is about string theory and the unification of the forces and matter – T.O.A. My main two sources for the paper are Brian Greene’s book and the Nova special about String Theory. Don’t think any of you will read it, but if you do, let me know what you think.

Read your presentation. Very clear, and bridges the subjects together.

I think you are maybe seeing a different timeline, or project reference,
than I once saw (re: your post, above). I thought CERN LHC was being assembled, due for completion by 2005; to be followed by a test phase for a year or two.

It should have several experiments in the ring- Alice, Atlas, so on...

Then, some plans exist for a Super Large Hadron Collider in 2019, or so.
I do not know who will pay for a SLHC, though! I think the LHC was around $4 Billion...


After the LHC, in 2009, the TESLA Project gets going. It is going to be
THE linear accelerator for a few years, until it wears out. The debate was whether or not it shoud be cryogenic/superconducting, or not. Superconducting won out. Fermi is helping to supply the chambers to the German facilities in Hamburg.

Femi runs the Tevatron currently, which explores graviton theory, along with
w-bosons, hadrons, dimensions, etc.
A video and related pdf file from Stanford U. are at the botom of this post,
as they are more in depth.

I saw this brief thread- mentions the LHC, TESLA; and the ILCE Test Facility,
which I take to be Fermi's contribution to TESLA

http://www.spaceflightnews.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=393


And for TESLA-

News on TESLA

General Background


Tevatron In Depth Lecture on Extra Dimensions and the Standard Model-

http://www-conf.slac.stanford.edu/ssi/2004...ndsberg_web.pdf

http://www-project.slac.stanford.edu/strea.../SSI_8_9pm3.ram

Thanks for reading my paper cat_'n_lap; feed-back from others is invaluable, especial freed-back from people who are knowledgeable in the field, again thank you.

I obtained the 2007 date from Brian Greene’s book, but I just noticed a hugh blunder in my original post. AH!!!!


Should say

Hell yes, CERN

I flipped flopped the names – I do this sometimes, especial when I just learn a new topic.

Where are you getting your info regarding CERN’s completion date? I never did look into further; and the date I got from Greene’s book is five years old now, so it could easily be wrong.

I have never heard of the SLHC nor have I herd about the TESLA project. I will definitely look over your links.

As long as were sharing links, here is one people may not know about. It is a massive achieve of discussions, lectures, and interviews from people of all types of fields.


Specifically about string theory
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourt..._20040325.shtml

Science achieve
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourt...e_science.shtml

Achieve home page
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourt...hive_home.shtml

Fermilab... yeh i forgot to mention...

i find it quite interesting how they release two hydrogen atoms in such tremendous speed and when they collide.. the graviton gets released... but to where??

as they said in that "elegant universe" program.. these other universes or dimensions may just be literally right next to us..

it makes me wonder that if these universes or dimensions are right within our own universe or world.. is this the apparation we see or hear of ghosts of real people of the other universe????

what string theory does is takes the theory of relativity and unites it with quantum theory, creating a unified theory of everything or T.O.E.

Can there be co-existing dimensions? yes of course, there is the spiritual realm and the physical world in which we currently exist. The problem is that we are tinking of experiencing the other demensions by what we experience here in this dimension. There is a place in which time and space cease to exist as we know them. It is at that point into which when you enter there is no returning or passing back through. We are limiting our thinking by trying to relate to the way in which we experience this dimension, and not by the way in which we would experience the other dimension into which we have entered. e.g. suppose what we think of as life here is actually death in another dimension, and our death here is what is known as their life in the other co-existing dimension. Not so very far fetched. I wish I were more learned and I might be able to better explain my thoughts. I would also like to point out that GOD is both "omnipresent, and omnicient", all the while we reamin not pre-destined in any way shape or form, and are free to choose what ever we would like, whether it be for good or bad. It would seem very clear to me that there is a great validity in the, "string type of theory" even thought I can not fully explain my thoughts. I am fasinated by this because I trully believe that as we learn more of our universe it just seems to validate GOD more and more to me. How marvelous must the sounds be eminating from the vibrations of the strings. Imagine musical sounds produced by no instruments, and the sounds of which we have never heard, as yet, how marvelous. Thanks you for your time, respectfully; ordinary chuck

When looking at 11 Dimensional Super Gravity all of the laws that we learned are out the window. Scientists since Newton have pondered why the force of gravity is so weak, or rather seems to be so weak. At the quantum level all Newtonian laws break down. The weak nuclear force is where the physicists are now finding the answers. It may be that we have mistakedly considered light and gravity as two seperate phenomenon. Ed Whitten is at the forefront of Super Gravity but the math is still beyond me. As far as Branes or quantum foam I have no problem with the teory as it fits in with my theory of zero dimension as the ground for all we experience.