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kzkid
WWIII.

Im hoping to get some feedback on who would play the major role in world war three, where this war will be fought, and why this war will be fought.

Anyone with insights, ideas and theories welcome.

Lets all put our minds together and find out what we can learn from another. wink2.gif
Mad Manfred
There wont be a World War Three. For many different reasons I've already stated on numerous times on numerous threads.

People do not want to listen to the facts. They enjoy talking about the end of the world too much.

So to avoid this thread being derailed and outright silly lets try to leave out the ridiculousness of the lizard people, biblical prophecies and secret organizations and be realistic for a change eh?
Frosty
Well, you would have to give us information as to how world war iii would be started. You can't go out on a twig and ask which alliances will be formed for an imaginary war, you need to give a somewhat plausible scenario as to what would necesitate such a global event.
Alien_child
world war three would be a war between muslm and christian i recon. The countrys in the middle east will be at war with the 1st world countries such as America, japan, England, Australia ext:
The war will stage over many continents namely asia.

If the war does eventually happen i bet i guessed every thing wrong. so dont pay much attention 2 wot i just said



Looter
World War 3 has already begun, its the US vs the World.
kzkid
QUOTE(Looter @ Dec 16 2004, 11:22 PM)
World War 3 has already begun, its the US vs the World.
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i totally agree with looter.. its just that, WE DONT KNOW IT.

well to give you guys an insight on what i believe how WW3 will arise, it has everything to do with the US, the middle EAST and Asia.. mainly the US and Israel as joined forces.

to give a brief overview.. israel and palestine have been fighting a war of their own for years now.. and i was even thinking, the US planned september 11th as a gateway into the middle east, WMD as a cause to get rid of good ol' saddam.. and now they have succeed.. their on the path secretly to conquer the rest of the middle east..

i remember watching CNN and the US was blaming Syria and Jordan that they were hiding the WMD and Saddam.. why would they state that? so they have a cause to invade those countries?

but in my opinion.. the US are backing the israelites so they may take over the middle east and using the israelis as their front for their further invasion of other middle eastern countries... and when this happens.. Asia and Russia will step in....

obviously for certain in depth reasons... but at the moment that is what i think...

**these are just my thoughts so please dont hammer me with negative insight... sad.gif i just like to know what other peoples thoughts are.. i shall elaborate more later.. thanks thumbsup.gif

kzkid
QUOTE(Alien_child @ Dec 16 2004, 06:50 PM)
world war three would be a war between muslm and christian i recon.

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yeh so true too.. the us being a "christian" or "catholic" country invading middle eastern counties with majority of "muslim" religions... is already an act of war between religions... so like previously stated.. who knows.. this 3rd and foremost last war may have already began.. as previous world wars.. it just doesnt happen over night... but it will happen in the coming years.
Boff
I wonder if after WW1..people were asking.."When do you think theres gunna be a WW2?".

I dont think there will be a WW3..wars yes...but no World War.
Thanato
WW1 before WW2 was known as the Great War or the War to End All Wars. because people thought that no one would want to fight a war after that. 14 million dead. But inaffect WW1 caused WW2, well the Treaty of Vercille (spelling) caused WW2.

WW3 is just around the corner but it will be ALOT diffrent from WW1 and 2, no Open battlefields. It will have more Urban Combat then Then Both World Wars, even tho there was alot of Urban Fighting in WW2.

But what i think WW3 will take Place in the UNited States, if it continues on its current Path.

~Thanato
Pyxis
The US seems to be obsessed with the Middle East right now. Where that will lead I haven't got a clue. As far as WW3, yeah I think it's possible. Though I think it'll be something we haven't seen before. Every war is fought in a different way.
strichar
To my knowledge world war three is already heppening. like kzkid said most people just don't realise it. I think there will probably be a lot of fighting in Asia, the Middle East obviously, and Central America. Possibly in Africa as well. It is basically the U.S. against the world. I don't think necessarily there will be a lot of fighting here in the Continental U.S. though. I Don't think there is any group or nation that could even attempt such a thing, except China. I'm not sure China would attempt such a thing though. I can pretty much guarantee that the U.S. will lose though. Our military is spread way too thin. Not only that but our Arrogance would be our undoing. Same as it was for Napoleon, the Romans, and the Nazis. Not only that but the U.S. Citizens would not stand for such a war. They will not support such a war for very long.
jenk
hhmmmm the only way I can think of a "WORLD WAR" happening right now is if North K tried to cross the DMZ or if the states went after them for having nukes. Even then it would not be a "World war" but a large war. But if China stepped in like last time....the sh** would hit the fan.
Frosty
QUOTE(strichar @ Dec 17 2004, 12:26 PM)
To my knowledge world war three is already heppening. like kzkid said most people just don't realise it. I think there will probably be a lot of fighting in Asia, the Middle East obviously, and Central America. Possibly in Africa as well. It is basically the U.S. against the world. I don't think necessarily there will be a lot of fighting here in the Continental U.S. though. I Don't think there is any group or nation that could even attempt such a thing, except China. I'm not sure China would attempt such a thing though. I can pretty much guarantee that the U.S. will lose though. Our military is spread way too thin. Not only that but our Arrogance would be our undoing. Same as it was for Napoleon, the Romans, and the Nazis. Not only that but the U.S. Citizens would not stand for such a war. They will not support such a war for very long.
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There has already been alot of fighting in Asia and Middle East. The Israeli ward, Vietnam, Korea, Pol Pot, Afghan/USSR war, and many others.
d3v
WW3 will be the US, UK and a few others European nations vs the chinese and the arabs.

They will keep at it untill we are literally begging for the one world goverment.

It will be the icing on their cake.

Now only will WW3 happen to get the one world goverment into power but it will also be used to get rid of America's military status to make way for the one world army.

You cant implement a new world superpower without getting rid of the current one.

"America maybe the superpower today but its not meant to last" President Clinton.

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Freespyryt24
I hope that all this war in the middle east stops. I don't like war. I don't feel that it solves anything, just gains casualities. I think that Bush is a terrorist. Why should the US have WMD and other countries cannot? I find it hypocritical. We have to abide by the rules of the States, Land of the free? In what sence? Can't grow marijuana crops. Can do this, can't do that. Its bs I tell you. Health care sucks ass here. Wages suck ass. The cost of living is sooo high in US and people lose their jobs. Forgeiners come to our country for a new life, they don't ahve to pay taxes.. WTF!!! It should be the other way around. The US is like sure come on in, we ahve room, have your party stores. Come one and come all, but then some turn around and blow up our buildings, killin our brothers and sisters. And speak in their language that might or might not be degrading to the US citizen. We speak ENGLISH HERE!!!! My grandfather and uncles have fought in wars. They tell me the horror stories, watching their buddy get his leg blown up in a land mines.
I don't want war. Let alone a world war. If this bs contiunes I am moving to Canada or Amsterdam!
Erikl
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The US seems to be obsessed with the Middle East right now.


*NEW FLASH* The all god damn world is obsessed with Middle East, and not from today, but since this liquid stuff which runs our economies and civilization was discovered in the trilions here disgust.gif... *NEWS FLASH*
Mad Manfred
Oh, there was also this little thing called the Crusades or something...

Mid-East has been a thorn in the side of almost every superpower since Roman times.
d3v
QUOTE(Mad Manfred @ Dec 18 2004, 02:46 PM)
Oh, there was also this little thing called the Crusades or something...[right][snapback]410497[/snapback][/right]


The Crusades was not a "little" even... it was a huge event.


Mad Manfred
QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 19 2004, 01:30 AM)
QUOTE(Mad Manfred @ Dec 18 2004, 02:46 PM)
Oh, there was also this little thing called the Crusades or something...[right][snapback]410497[/snapback][/right]


The Crusades was not a "little" even... it was a huge event.
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Blood Angel
QUOTE(Erikl @ Dec 18 2004, 02:18 PM)
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The US seems to be obsessed with the Middle East right now.


*NEW FLASH* The all god damn world is obsessed with Middle East, and not from today, but since this liquid stuff which runs our economies and civilization was discovered in the trilions here disgust.gif... *NEWS FLASH*
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Erikl, dear friend i have a question for you. Do you think Israels relationship with the USA is superficial, I.E, just using you for perhaps a foothold in the middle east (prior to gulf war 1)?
Sunofone
i agree with those that stated ww3 is taking place- imo it is an infowar and the darkside is winning most people dont have a clue about reality- ww4 will be a dual front attack -the first will be aneconomic attack on the superpower and the second will be a global biological catastrophe(planned population reduction)-im speaking generally because if you really think that the worlds governments are seperate entities that cant get along then you are one of the casualties of ww3- it'll probably be soon-was it on this forum that a thread had been started on a possible new currency called the "pheonix"?
d3v
some good ideas there and I couldent agree more with the one about a global nuclear Ternimator 2 type of war to achieve there goal of an 80% world population reduction.
RaginCajun
a world war consist of many different countries on both sides. there are no good or evil sides. there fore to consider America againts the middle east a world war is not only inaccurate but sounds a bit arrogant. America IS not in a world war. we are "involved" with the world because America loves to police some parts of the world "national interest".
Erikl
QUOTE(Blood Angel @ Dec 18 2004, 03:29 PM)
QUOTE(Erikl @ Dec 18 2004, 02:18 PM)
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The US seems to be obsessed with the Middle East right now.


*NEW FLASH* The all god damn world is obsessed with Middle East, and not from today, but since this liquid stuff which runs our economies and civilization was discovered in the trilions here disgust.gif... *NEWS FLASH*
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Erikl, dear friend i have a question for you. Do you think Israels relationship with the USA is superficial, I.E, just using you for perhaps a foothold in the middle east (prior to gulf war 1)?
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It could be... I think Israeli-US relations has many reasons, some superficial, some deeper.
It isn't solely superficial, because then the US would have abandoned us during the first oil-related crisis (like many European allies did, for example France, which prior to 1966, was Israel's best friend - more than the US was at the time).
Also, if it was only about interests regarding strategic spots and oil supply in the ME, the US was best to have allied itself with the Arab countries rather than Israel - we don't have oil, and our territory encompass only 0.5% of the ME's territory.
I think it's a mixture of both - Israel is the only democracy in the Middle-East and the only western country in this region, so we share values. Also there is probably the responsibility that the US feels for Jews as it has the largest Jewish population in the world (6 million Jews in the US, in compare to 5 million in Israel), so it feels obligated to keep a Jewish state safe, especially after the Holocaust.
Israel also is probably the only country in the ME that it's majority (in case of Israel - virtually the entire population) population doesn't wish to see the west and the US obliterated, so the US has an alliance which is based on a friendly population, rather then on pro-west dictatorship.

As for the Israeli side of these relations - we see the US as our greatest ally, which without it's support both diplomatically and economically we couldn't have survived to this day. This feeling is shown by the fact that every single US president won 80%+ popularity in Israel (Clinton had 96% if I'm not mistaken, Bush has 80% tongue.gif), that virtually all Israelis know english (more Israelis speak English than Arabic, and we have a large Arab minority here) - so much so that modern Hebrew has many words from English, we listen to anglo-american music (there are many people who listen only to American\British music), we watch American films with subtitles (we do not translate the soundtrack like the french, germans or italians do), and many Israelis call Israel the 51th state of America as a joke tongue.gif.
On the other hand, lately (in the 90s and today) we feel that the US stick it's nose into our politics too much... and believe me, if that's comming from an Israeli, then it means that there is something into this wink2.gif . We wish our relations would have been more like US-UK relations, ie more equality.
Blood Angel
happy.gif Understood, my opinion sort of paralells that, but a bit more focused on military advantages.
RaginCajun
"Also, if it was only about interests regarding strategic spots and oil supply in the ME, the US was best to have allied itself with the Arab countries rather than Israel - we don't have oil, and our territory encompass only 0.5% of the ME's territory.
I think it's a mixture of both - Israel is the only democracy in the Middle-East and the only western country in this region, so we share values."


That is the reason why America has intrest in Israel. You just explained why America is intrested in Irael when you tried to explain why America doesn't have much to gain in Irael. So America does have something to gain in Israel.
whoa182
The next big war will probably be a biological war.

Genetically engineered viruses to target people with certain characteristics

Also Nanotechnology will play a part in a future war, Micoscopic robots that self assemble and replicate, Will be used in assassination.

Mad Manfred
QUOTE(whoa182 @ Dec 19 2004, 07:39 PM)


Also Nanotechnology will play a part in a future war,  Micoscopic robots that self assemble and replicate, Will be used in assassination.
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Why go to all that trouble when you can just use a flavorless/odorless poison or just shoot the guy in the face?
d3v
Stop spamming manfred.
Mad Manfred
QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 19 2004, 09:47 PM)
Stop spamming manfred.
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Spamming? huh.gif I was replying to the post above mine.

Get a clue or don't bother responding at all, lunatic.
Erikl
Mmmm...
Can't think of a WW3 anytime soon...
I mean I can see a new Cold War between China and US, or US and the EU some time in the future, but no WW3.
However, a nuclear war which will not be a global war but will cause millions of life to perish could well happen as nuclear weapon will be more and more widespread.
For example, if Indian-Pakistani relations will worsen again, we could see a nuclear conflict between the two, with up to 20 million casualties, and millions more injured.
A possible future nuclear conflict between China and India is also possible, because they both have huge populations and so could be less deterred from using nukes.

Also, a nuclear armed ME can spark a nuclear war between the countries there. Arab countries have used WMD against other Arab countries and against their own populations in the past, so that won't be the first time.
(for example, there is little doubt that if Saddam would have got nukes in 1982, as he planned to, he would have used it on the Iranians, as he was already gassing them in the thousands. In the end of the Iraq-Iran war, 1 million people perished).

But again, any WW3 that involves the US or Russia throwing everything they've got is unrealistic, because those two are the only countries in the world with enough firearm to destroy the earth completely (several times).
Redneck
In the opinion of some:

The cold war was world war three. Thankfully, it never went all the way.

World war four is underway as we speak. Major battles include Iraq and Afghanistan, with enemy action taking place in New York, Madrid, Bali, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
jenk
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World war four is underway as we speak. Major battles include Iraq and Afghanistan, with enemy action taking place in New York, Madrid, Bali, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

I would not call those major battles. There is not even a war taking place in any of these places (The U.S. has declared the wars are over in Iraq and Afghanistan). So it could not be a warworld for the lack of war.
Athenian
In a real World War there are many equal sides and the casualties are up to 1000 deaths in a week. sleepy.gif
kzkid
disgust.gif to come to think of it, any major country of might and power. ie. US and China or Russia wish to solve their differences via a war, those countries will seek help with the middle class and minor class countries to fight at their side, thus, world war.

Once the U.S pushes on further from Iraq to other Middle eastern countries according to their agenda of GOD KNOWS WHAT... as soon as they go overboard, then that should tickle either russia or chinas fancy, declare maybe a cold war with another, but at the same time round up other countries to be at their side, then rumble or wrestle or wat ever it is two countries do when they fight....

but aswell with that thought in mind, maybe its part of the agenda of the U.S. To involve other countries of might and power so they may then satisfy what really they are to do, I guess we will have to just wait and see what other magic trick they can pull out of a rabbit hat, maybe this time we may see boats flying into buildings, blowing it up, causing hundreds of deaths, and put the blame on Russia and China..... ph34r.gif
Redneck
QUOTE(jenk @ Dec 19 2004, 11:05 PM)
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World war four is underway as we speak. Major battles include Iraq and Afghanistan, with enemy action taking place in New York, Madrid, Bali, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

I would not call those major battles. There is not even a war taking place in any of these places (The U.S. has declared the wars are over in Iraq and Afghanistan). So it could not be a warworld for the lack of war.
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You wouldn't call Iraq and Afghanistan major battles? Most people regard them as wars in and of themselves.
Mad Manfred
QUOTE(Redneck @ Dec 21 2004, 09:14 AM)
QUOTE(jenk @ Dec 19 2004, 11:05 PM)
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World war four is underway as we speak. Major battles include Iraq and Afghanistan, with enemy action taking place in New York, Madrid, Bali, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

I would not call those major battles. There is not even a war taking place in any of these places (The U.S. has declared the wars are over in Iraq and Afghanistan). So it could not be a warworld for the lack of war.
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You wouldn't call Iraq and Afghanistan major battles? Most people regard them as wars in and of themselves.
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A little off topic...

I call them invasions with ensuing insurgencies. Skirmishes and ambushes, etc. Not wars.

They were hardly wars...the US practacally stepped on their opposition and squashed all resistance in a matter of weeks, how is that a war?

A war...IMO...is two equally matched countries going head to head.
Insight
The war has already begun people. Do you think that our media news actually tells us what our country is doing in other countries? What better way to fight a war then away from the public eye?

Did you know that during the whole iraqi conflict, North Korea launched a missile that hit alaska? The US didn't make it front page news becvause they needed public support for iraq.

Isn't firing a missile at North America considered an act of war?

Did you also know that the Clinton Administration sold 2 nuclear reactors to North Korea, and the Bush administration is selling them three more?


Why are we arming our enemies?
RaginCajun
government rated insight: are there any links or proof that the bush adm. is really doing that???
kzkid
QUOTE(Insight @ Dec 21 2004, 02:26 PM)

Why are we arming our enemies?

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its funny u ask that...

why? to start world war 3 of course sad.gif
Mad Manfred
QUOTE(RaginCajun @ Dec 21 2004, 02:38 PM)
government rated insight:  are there any links or proof that the bush adm.  is really doing that???
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Yes, I'd also like some proof of that.
d3v
lol u lot think what u see on the news is all thats going on over there.

Insight is correct. They hide just about everything from us.

They have guys with masks on following every reporter in Iraq and Afghanistan stopping them from shooting or reporting anything they dont want the public to see.

George Bush's cousin OWNS Fox news for christ sake.

CNN, Fox, Sky... ALL of em are ALL propoganda tools totally controlled by the goverment.

Its pathetic how so many of you STILL trust what your news tells you and think that the news will report all thats going on.

Wake up thumbsup.gif

Also, Insight is correct about Korea slaming a nuke into Alaska.

It was all over the Korean frontpage enws the day after.

He's also correct about GB and all other presidents for that matter, selling arms and munitions and nukes to the opposition.

Tht may sound stupid and pointless at first but they do it to create wars and wars are very usefull for them on many many levels.



wout
QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 21 2004, 02:01 PM)

It was all over the Korean frontpage enws the day after.

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If you believe in a wide scale propaganda/lieing/not telling about some facts of US media, why wouldn't use a dictator in N-Korea the same techniques...?

Not saying that cnn and fox are the most honest and reliable sources, but don't believe in the N-Korean press either. Think that they are even more controlled by their governement.

but I wonder, if the story should be true, why it is silenced instead of exploited to convince the world/Amercian opinion of the danger of N-Korea?
d3v
QUOTE(wout @ Dec 21 2004, 02:18 PM)
QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 21 2004, 02:01 PM)

It was all over the Korean frontpage enws the day after.

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If you believe in a wide scale propaganda/lieing/not telling about some facts of US media, why wouldn't use a dictator in N-Korea the same techniques...?

Not saying that cnn and fox are the most honest and reliable sources, but don't believe in the N-Korean press either. Think that they are even more controlled by their governement.

but I wonder, if the story should be true, why it is silenced instead of exploited to convince the world/Amercian opinion of the danger of N-Korea?
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Thats a very good point and although there is Illuminati control within most or all goverments and ruling institutions around the world, its not always so tight and controlled as they would like it to be.

Thats why a one world goverment, currency, police, military, justic system, language, religion (satanism), medial system, ect, ect, ect, is one of their main agendas.

Its called the New World Order.

Centralised power = complete control and no gaps.

A good example is...

A plate spinner is on stage and he's finding it dificult to control all the plates that are spinning so he takes off all but one plate and now he can control it easily.

The plate spinner represents the Illuminati.

The spinning plates represent the world and everything and everyone init.

See what I mean?

The news of the nuke hitting Alasks simply got passed becuse the level of control is not as tight and good as you think.

I've seen the frontpage of the Korean paper in one of Alex Jone's videos.




Mad Manfred
I don't follow anyone or anything blindly, so don't assume so.

All I ask from anyone is proof.
DarkSinister
QUOTE(d3v @ Dec 17 2004, 07:12 PM)
WW3 will be the US, UK and a few others European nations vs the chinese and the arabs.
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Original post edited



That was unnecessary for you to refer to Chinese in such a derogatory way. Im appalled.
kzkid
to make things interesting for the stepping stones of world war 3,

have read of this post

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=29510

it shows how maybe america is in iraq for other reasons?

like i wrote before.. there is an agenda and i strongly believe that america did not invade iraq to capture saddam, no, its something deeper than that.

well what ever it may be, then isnt it obvious that once this is revealed, other countries will try to either ignore, or justify a war for it... thus

may world war 3 begin..

heres some other interesting links

http://www.prophecywatch.com/articles/saddam_hussein.htm

http://aoreport.com/lifeinamericasnewbabylon-iraq.htm
Dowdy
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it shows how maybe america is in iraq for other reasons?



well, Iraq is considered a good strategic point in the middle east
kzkid
QUOTE(Dowdy @ Dec 22 2004, 05:51 PM)
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it shows how maybe america is in iraq for other reasons?



well, Iraq is considered a good strategic point in the middle east
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true thumbsup.gif

i mean u wont see them invade Russia or China.. maybe as a thought, it was easier to invade Iraq or middle east as they were maybe an easier opponent that a quiet super power like Russia or China.

As IRAQ would be a good strategic point in the middle east to attack in any direction, well, once it comes to that.
Lochness_hunter
Come on. WW3 will be started by China. When ever china thinks it can invade taiwan and survive a war with america they will, and with the russians and Chinese doing joint military opperations it is amazing they haven't already done tried something.
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