Michelle
Dec 18 2004, 08:25 PM

That's priceless...and actually seeing both sides of the coin.
Mysteryman
Dec 18 2004, 08:27 PM
JennRose: Does estrogen have an effect on females from the difference of men to (not only testosterone)...Do men have estrogen? I know one side effect of steroids is the production of estrogen in the male testacles killing the sperm and reducing the process of amount of testosterone being made.
JennRose
Dec 18 2004, 08:37 PM
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Dec 18 2004, 04:27 PM)
JennRose: Does estrogen have an effect on females from the difference of men to (not only testosterone)...Do men have estrogen? I know one side effect of steroids is the production of estrogen in the male testacles killing the sperm and reducing the process of amount of testosterone being made.
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Yes, men do produce estrogen, just of course not as much as women. And a person can have high levels of both hormones. You know, we all start out as females at conception, just some additional hormones at a later stage in development form males.
Interesting fact: Stallions, rattlesnakes and the typical 'jock' (like football player) have been found to have high levels of both hormones.
Mysteryman
Dec 18 2004, 08:55 PM
Ha, interesting, but funny. Also, I was looking at this magazine I picked up before since I'm interested in it: Weekly World News. It discuss's the strangest mysteries of our planet and I said hey! I love this stuff and so I bought it...Inside I found this:
Hundreds of redblooded American he-men have suddenly turned into women-and you may be next.
Thats the word from epidemiologists at the Centers for Disease Control, in Atlanta, Ga., who say that the mysterious outbreak of spontaneous sex changes in men, while not yet an epidemic, "is a growing concern that leaves all postpubescent males at risk."
"If you thought not having enough flu vaccine was bad, consider this: 135 million innocent and unsuspecting men might now find themselves with private parts that are withering away to nothing," says a CDC insider who spoke on condition of anonymity.
"And the same virus that causes a man's plumbing to shrink also causes extreme glandular changes that increase the production of estrogen up to 2,000 percent."
"That means victims not only become women "down there," they also become women "up top". We're investigating cases where burly construction workers and bodybuilders lost their genitals and grew breasts in a matter of just three to four weeks, yet facial hair still continues to grow, but at an accelerated rate, requiring them to shave three times a day."
"The physical impact is devastating, and the psychological and emotional impact is even worse. I've seen grown men blubbering like babies."
"They want their 'manhood' back."
Nobody knows for sure where the frightening "gender-bending virus" came from, although most researchers at the CDC believe that it was genetically altered in a laboratory, possibly by terrorists.
Brad G., of Houston, Texas, was one of the first men to be diagnosed with the illness.
He told CDC investigators that it started with flu-like symptoms, including a runny nose, sore throat, achy joints, drowsiness and a "strange tingling and burning" in his naughty bits.
"The symptoms lasted for a week and then I began to feel okay," he said. "But when my wife and I made love, she kept saying she didn't feel anything".
In the days that followed, the 23-year-old college student noticed that he "seemed to be getting even smaller." Afraid to go to a doctor, he decided to "wait things out".
Three days later he rolled out of bed when his alarm clock rang and noticed that his once-mighty sword didn't come with him.
"It was on my bed," he told the CDC. "My voice was high pitched, like a woman's - and I was growing breasts."
According to the CDC source, similar scenarios are developing and playing themselves out in every state "at an accelerating place".
There is no known cure for the illness - which appears to be irreversible - but you can protect yourself.
"Dont travel in stuffy airplanes that are breeding grounds for germs," advises the source. "Wash your hands frequently. Don't get close to men who are coughing and sneezing or appear to have larger than normal breasts."
"Steer clear of men who sit down to pee. By following these simple rules, you can minimize your risks until we can get a handle on this thing".
"But until we find that cure, or develop a vaccine, it's up to you to be vigilant, unless, of course, you've been wanting a sex change - but just couldn't afford it."
MeaPlum
Dec 18 2004, 08:58 PM
QUOTE(Transform @ Dec 17 2004, 02:42 AM)
Yes male should act these way

to be man

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I hope you are young, Transform, and have a lot of time left to learn about people. This attitude that men are evil and enjoy watching animals die and killing people and that they SHOULD be this way totally opens up yourself to be abused.
Violence only makes a man in circles where there is nothing else to offer. Those men end up dead or in jail. I would hypothesize that most men do not join the military so they can get some blood sport, but because it is about honoring our country and what it stands for (or some such). I can honestly tell you as a fact that, upon close observance of many men fishing, not one has ever leapt to his feet waving the still struggling dying fish and yelled "You're mine! I will make you suffer! Ahhh... the beautiful beuatiful blood!"
Mysteryman
Dec 18 2004, 09:07 PM
True - in a way, their are sides of the personalities of all living men. Each person has a mind of their own and a personality of their own. The evil ones - face what they deserve, hell. The ones with the kind mind - face what they deserve, the beauty of heaven.
Diebytheflyguy
Dec 18 2004, 10:26 PM
QUOTE(Transform @ Dec 18 2004, 07:32 AM)
Ya really?
Female Suicide Bombers: Dying to KillOne of many instances showing that females are exactly the helpless, extremely loving and caring stereotype you can seem to get OUT OF your THICK skull.
QUOTE(Transform @ Dec 18 2004, 07:32 AM)
Or u prefer this.Which better 
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What is with you?
Mysteryman
Dec 18 2004, 11:27 PM
Also whats amazing is how the female thinks about doing different hobbies than men. I mean, men have lips and so do women. Do men put lip gloss, lip liner, and lipstick on their lips? No, but women do. Men have nails but do we paint our nails, put fake nails on, and paint fake nails? No, but women do. Its amazing between the differents of a male and a female, but were both still the same species, human beings. Male and female have two totally different sides of personalities that the changes are dramatic! Anyone think about that?
JennRose
Dec 18 2004, 11:41 PM
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Dec 18 2004, 07:27 PM)
Also whats amazing is how the female thinks about doing different hobbies than men. I mean, men have lips and so do women. Do men put lip gloss, lip liner, and lipstick on their lips? No, but women do. Men have nails but do we paint our nails, put fake nails on, and paint fake nails? No, but women do. Its amazing between the differents of a male and a female, but were both still the same species, human beings. Male and female have two totally different sides of personalities that the changes are dramatic! Anyone think about that?
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I think a majority of that is strictly cultural. I've seen pics of a tribe (oohh...the name escapes me...) where the men paint themselves elaborately, dress in feathers, and basically parade around to impress the ladies. (no, not Marde Gras...)

And remember Victorian era gentlemen? They were powdered and coiffed just as much as the women.
And I must add, I rarely put anything on my lips unless they are chapped. Not a fan of make-up. And I can't remember the last time I painted my nails. But I get your point.
Mysteryman
Dec 19 2004, 12:44 AM
Thank you, ahaha. Though a while back when I went to camp upstate in New York, we would have Color War (if someone doesn't know what it is, ask me and I'll be glad to tell you) and I would paint my nails either blue or white for team spirit.
JennRose
Dec 19 2004, 03:23 AM
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Dec 18 2004, 08:44 PM)
Thank you, ahaha. Though a while back when I went to camp upstate in New York, we would have Color War (if someone doesn't know what it is, ask me and I'll be glad to tell you) and I would paint my nails either blue or white for team spirit.
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Of course it would be men who turned fingernail painting into part of a war game.
The Raven
Dec 19 2004, 05:04 AM
Todays society is terrible, in my eyes, never worse. The society corrupts, mutilates, and steals everything meaningful and then eithers destroys or blows it out or proportion in a heartless, greedy lust.
You do not have to follow in the horror of the pop star's footsteps, Britney Spears, in order to fall into the ranks of the stereo typical view of one sex. Insight, the source of all your disdain towards the common female is caused by society.
The trend is getting blond hair to look sexy for females, and fairly long, "sk8er" hair for males. You should try and make educated, uninfluenced opinions that come from the heart, and not follow in the footsteps of those terrible ones before you.
I encourage people to stray away from the norm. "Girls are supposed to play with dolls while boys play with trucks." It doesn't matter what toy you choose, let the child make these decisions before they are tainted and don't force anything like this upon them.
In the end, society can be a good thing, but now it seems to be so radical and sinister that people would live better lives with total social eradication.
Maekrix
Dec 19 2004, 03:55 PM
On the homosexual general/soldier topic...
Greek hoplites (during Alexander's rule,

Alexander!) were feared by enemies, ESPECIALLY the homosexual ones. This was because the homosexuals fought harder, not wanting to dishonor themselves in front of other men. Sorta like men now-a-days show off to women alot. Anyway, the homosexual hoplites would fight to the death, would never turn and run.
And as for men vs women thing, I'm going to agree with those who say most of the gender stereotypes are from society. Men can do any job, women can do any job.
And as for the Britney Spears picture, that just sickens me dude. She's artificial man. And her voice pretty much sucks. Its way overdone. Just.. pathetic, she's really pathetic..
And as for Raven's hair comments- I like my 'sk8er' hair dude! ..Its not styled and groomed like 'sk8er's but its long like that.. Oh.. But I can't wait until it finally reaches my shoulders.. then it'll be really cool.
And I actually don't care what a girl's hair is, as long as its in harmony with the rest of her individual style (individual style that fewer and fewer girls seem to have... ) (And I also think red hair is pretty good looking, especially when its natural)

Actually.. every color hair is pretty.. provided its natural. Hey! Women out there! Natural hair is hot!
Oh, and Jennrose, not sure if I've said this before, but that wolf is soooo cool. Wolfies are freakin' awesome!
Mysteryman
Dec 19 2004, 06:35 PM
I believe male and female were created to be not that different from each other so we could have a perfectly normal, civilized, calm, civilization and could all get along. Considering the fact that woman and man are totally different now, we all have totally different thoughts. Now, people come up with the idea that the parents would be happy if their son became a suicide bomber. Now, people are proud of what terrorists do. Realize that our world, planet Earth, could be the most uncivilized planet in all of universe in the Space System!
RaginCajun
Dec 19 2004, 06:50 PM
i thought this posting was about what females and males like to do not males versus females. seems like our pride was hurt a little. i know one things for sure that men and women like and share: open minds and a beautiful smile.
Mysteryman
Dec 19 2004, 08:29 PM
Nope, its just a simple forum discussing everything we feel and express on males and females on the creation of Earth...
Transform
Dec 20 2004, 08:18 AM
pete juffalo
Dec 20 2004, 09:19 AM
QUOTE(Transform @ Dec 16 2004, 08:19 AM)
Terrorist are also male.Male are

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even the girls as young as 25 who recently acted as suicide bombers in israel, killing a bunch of people?
i have no time or patience (sp?) for activists
RaginCajun
Dec 20 2004, 09:24 AM
i don't know what other men are intrested in but i'm into this.
http://www.kbeckinsale.net/http://www.geocities.com/katebeckinsale2/men do have a good and bad side. what's funny is that women do too they just don't admitt it (maybe).
Transform
Dec 20 2004, 10:02 AM
Everythings u made,
Every move u take,
Everythings u did,
There is someone watching u.
U can run but u can't hide.Even u make love at home,there will be someone know it
pagan_jedi_girl
Dec 20 2004, 11:50 AM
QUOTE(Frosty @ Dec 16 2004, 05:43 PM)
Name me one goddamn female general who has lead her country in time of war to victory. Not too many of the top of your head, right?
You my friend are stereotyping for a very good reason. Testosterone and Estrogen play a large role in this.
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Boudicea, she was a warrior queen, she didn't win that war but she had a good go. Women can be passive, but not all are.
AMINA
QUEEN Of ZARIA (1588-1589)This queen of Zazzua, a province of Nigeria now known as Zaria, was born around 1533 during the reign of Sarkin (king) Zazzau Nohir. She was probably his granddaughter. Zazzua was one of a number of Hausa city-states which dominated the trans-Saharan trade after the collapse of the Songhai empire to the west. Its wealth was due to trade of mainly leather goods, cloth, kola, salt, horses and imported metals. At the age of sixteen, Amina became the heir apparent (Magajiya) to her mother, Bakwa of Turunku, the ruling queen of Zazzua. With the title came the responsibility for a ward in the city and daily councils with other officials. Although her mother's reign was known for peace and prosperity, Amina also chose to learn military skills from the warriors. Queen Bakwa died around 1566 and the reign of Zazzua passed to her younger brother Karama. At this time Amina emerged as the leading warrior of Zazzua cavalry. Her military achievements brought her great wealth and power. When Karama died after a ten-year rule, Amina became queen of Zazzua. She set off on her first military expedition three months after coming to power and continued fighting until her death. In her thirty-four year reign, she expanded the domain of Zazzua to its largest size ever. Her main focus, however, was not on annexation of neighboring lands, but on forcing local rulers to accept vassal status and permit Hausa traders safe passage. She is credited with popularizing the earthen city wall fortifications, which became characteristic of Hausa city-states since then. She ordered building of a defensive wall around each military camp that she established. Later, towns grew within these protective walls, many of which are still in existence. They're known as "ganuwar Amina", or Amina's walls. She is mostly remembered as "Amina, Yar Bakwa ta san rana," meaning "Amina, daughter of Nikatau, a woman as capable as a man.
Contributed by Danuta Bois
CANDACE
EMPRESS OF ETHIOPIA (332 B.C.)Alexander reached Kemet (Ancient Egypt) in 332 B.C., on his world conquering rampage. But one of the greatest generals of the ancient world was also the Empress of Ethiopia. This formidable black Queen Candace, was world famous as a military tactician and field commander. Legend has it that Alexander could not entertain even the possibilty of having his world fame and unbroken chain of victories marred by risking a defeat, at last, by a woman. He halted his armies at the borders of Ethiopia and did not invade to meet the waiting black armies with their Queen in personal command.
Diebytheflyguy
Dec 20 2004, 09:34 PM
QUOTE(Transform @ Dec 20 2004, 05:02 AM)
Everythings u made,
Every move u take,
Everythings u did,
There is someone watching u.
U can run but u can't hide.Even u make love at home,there will be someone know it

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What?

And this has to do with....?

QUOTE(Transform @ Dec 20 2004, 03:18 AM)
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Women are Quaking more than ever.QUOTE(Transform @ Dec 20 2004, 03:18 AM)
And to answer why there is female suicide bombers.Female are easily influence and because their leaders are male .They then become suicide bombers.Initially they don't behave these way.
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No, women actually want to suicide bomb not beause they are influenced by men, but because they want to.
QUOTE(Transform @ Dec 20 2004, 03:18 AM)
"A heavy drunker don't know he or she is drunk when just drink one bottle of beer but a none drinker when drink one bottle of beer will get drunk easily." Male are the heavy drunker and female are none drinker.
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No, not at all. They are tons of female alcoholics out there and drinkers out there.
Its the simple fact that males can hold their beer better than women, and not get drunk as fast. Women do drink, but yes, SOME not as much as males because they CAN'T, not because they don't want to.
QUOTE(Transform @ Dec 20 2004, 03:18 AM)
Female just love to play those none violent games.Male don't influence much when play violent games is because they already have these violent behavior with them.They love violent toys more then female.Look at the "gender ."U will agree with me
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This is because men were supposed to play with army men, and women were supposed to play with barbies. The times are a-changin' Transform.
QUOTE(Transform @ Dec 20 2004, 03:18 AM)
One more thing very scary is that more extensive violent games can be created when play with more violent games."The advance of violence games"
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I'm not sure what your saying here.
Fatal Fury
Dec 20 2004, 09:49 PM
We'll you know that some women that do suicide bombing I feel for them.
The reason why I am saying this is because depresion,neglection,abuse
could all lead up to doing these sorts of things....
Same for the males as well but women are much more sensitive.
Dancing_Dumplings
Dec 20 2004, 09:50 PM
Fatal Fury
Dec 20 2004, 10:03 PM
All you wrote in was the stereotypes of men and women. Maybe you should take more note of what your writting to. Think about personality's and individualism for each person has their own way. Man or Women.
Kismit
Dec 20 2004, 10:41 PM
QUOTE
"A heavy drunker don't know he or she is drunk when just drink one bottle of beer but a none drinker when drink one bottle of beer will get drunk easily." Male are the heavy drunker and female are none drinker.
Actually alcholism is generally a higher risk for Woman as there bodies do not metabolise alcohol at the same rate as men and yet we constantly try to put ourselves on the same level . Many woman I have known would try to drink there friends under the table , wether they be men or woman . It just isn't so. We can't drink as much we shouldn't even try , it doesn't matter if your taller or larger than other woman your body will still process alchohol at roughly the same rate .
Sorry off topic
and as a woman I enjoy netball, rugby, chess , cooking , reading , painting , drawing and trying things I have never done before . I was never into Barbie and detest the colour pink , it isn't even a real colour . It's wannabe red.
Michelle
Dec 20 2004, 11:16 PM
I'm with you Kismit, my hobbies are restoring a hundred year old house which includes painting, carpentry, digging new sewar lines, (not my favorite but had to be done

) stripping woodwork, plumbing, etc.... Not to mention scuba diving, working on cars, landscaping, hikeing, cooking, sailing, just to name a few. I've never been a girls girl. I detest shopping, lunching, gossip and so many other things women seem to love so much (or supposed to anyway).

Oh, I forgot, I'm doing my first mosaic tile wall. Started out small but it's turned into a seventeen foot long six foot high mural. Lordy, I do love bashing up those tile.
Kismit
Dec 20 2004, 11:21 PM
Oh and I like furniture restoration and building stuff, thanks Michelle . Paint stripping is something that allways seems to be going to be done later in our house but painting is a job my husband and I fight over .
And and and Martial arts , I love my Tae-Kwan do and have a mighty impressive jumping front kick

Hiiyaaaaaa!!!!
Michelle
Dec 20 2004, 11:24 PM

I forgot furniture restoration. I think the paint stripping will be done in about twenty years.
Michelle
Dec 21 2004, 02:40 AM
Sadly, my martial arts skills have gone WAY by the wayside by about fifteen years. I've still got some good moves left in me though.

We are setting up a room now with a full body punching bag so I'm trying to get back in the swing. Who needs to pay for a workout when you have all the work you can do to keep you in shape?
bigdog112
Dec 21 2004, 05:23 AM
Men are hunters woman are socializes.
That’s why most men play violent games and fight in wars because hunting from primal days are gone and we compensate. Woman always will have there society protected by the males. So in a few simple words YOU NEED AND LOVE MEN SO GET USED TO IT!!!
Mysteryman
Dec 21 2004, 09:37 PM
Whats strange is, theirs a kind of species of fish, possibly a seahorse I'm thinking of, where instead of the wife taking care of the babies and watching them where the husband would find food and protect the family, I believe if I'm thinking right, its the other way around according to this species.
Female: Hunts and protects family.
Male: Keeps babies warm and protected safely...
Also, the praying mantis eats its husband after having babies to feed the babies with future food! Now thats just pure cannibalism...
JennRose
Dec 21 2004, 09:43 PM
QUOTE(bigdog112 @ Dec 21 2004, 01:23 AM)
So in a few simple words YOU NEED AND LOVE MEN SO GET USED TO IT!!!
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Oh, for crying out loud...you men need women, too.

It's not like we could just carry on w/out each other. (actually we'd do fine w/ many less males, only need you all for 1 thing, you know)

And cut and dried stereotypes: men= hunter, women = gatherers, are no longer operative.
Michelle
Dec 21 2004, 10:13 PM

Ya got that right Jenn.
But, bigdog (and I must say the name seems to fit

) I do love them. My best friends are men.
Mysteryman
Dec 21 2004, 10:47 PM

Thank god for female!
Werewolf of Doom
Dec 21 2004, 10:56 PM
I hate it how people steyrtipically think that girls like dolls and barbies and make-up and boys like sports, gross stuff and video games! I would rather burn a barbie in a fire or chop it into bits with a huge kitchen knife than play with it!

And I know some guys who have girls for friends, not love intrest! It sickens me how so many preps and jocks in my grade (7th) are already dating and breaking up! What's next, pregnancies at the age of 13?!?
RaginCajun
Dec 21 2004, 11:03 PM
some of my best friends are females... i have two eyes out on one too
Werewolf of Doom
Dec 21 2004, 11:05 PM
All my friends who sit at my lunch table are girls except for Zsolty. We all have one thing in common: love for anime and neopets.
Mysteryman
Dec 21 2004, 11:06 PM
Yeah, I understand what your saying Werewolf of Doom...I have actually seen some young people like 14 - 15 pregnant...
Werewolf of Doom
Dec 21 2004, 11:08 PM
*shudder* now that's creepy! I've heard a rumor from my sister that someone in our grade got pregnant from a high schooler. But it's a rumor so there's no chance it's true.
RaginCajun
Dec 22 2004, 01:58 AM
(i moved my response to jokes and humour column. it was more appropriate there).
Mysteryman
Dec 22 2004, 02:49 AM
Good sense of humour...and unfortunate to say a good way to piss some ladies off...
Transform
Dec 23 2004, 04:54 AM
If u are a fast runner,u don't know u are actually running very fast.Male are belonged to fast runner.

But fast runner can see those who run slower then him.Female are those slow runner.But female can see those fast runner when they are runner at their best.If u wanna to catch at very fast speed frequency object,u need a more faster equipments to catch it's speed.
Fast runners will always tell those slow runners that they(fast runners) are just running at their very slow speed but they will never realise that they are actually running very fast for many people.

Used time stopped
More advance/violent games,scene,toys etc.will be created or invented is because when these people feel bore with these violent games etc.after playing for sometimes.They need more violent to fullfil their need.If not they will feel "empty"

.Just like to cure a person from it illness,more doses is needed for it's bodies.Beginning is 1 dose but after sometimes more doses is added to cure the illnesses.
And because these creators of these games,toys etc.know those male" needs "and also they gains experience from those violence scene created.They are able to create more advance violent games etc.
All these games,scene,toys,movies etc.will affect a person behaviours as i have mention at the early post and have"Evidence and proof".I am sure more violent scene in future will be created by human beings.
"
If i bet 100 bucks on my topic,i am sure i will win 100 bucks"
Michelle
Dec 23 2004, 05:20 AM
Transform
Dec 23 2004, 06:16 AM
Apocalyptic Cryptid
Feb 10 2005, 12:50 AM
i have freinds who are mean love war and love violent games... and they are girls...
very stereotypical.... Tut Tut...
Adramaleck
Feb 10 2005, 04:51 AM
beep beep.
Okay, now that that's over...
Man, this is gonna tottaly make me sound like a hippie, but here goes.
We are all equals, every one, brothers, sisters, we are humanity. Sometimes we must kill or be killed, other times we must love. It has no bearing on the situation whether we're white, black, male, female, or a hermaphrodite. There are reasons for everything. Males may overall be more predisposed to violence - but this is because of the gender stereotyping that facistly rules the lives of all humans. Females ( I know, this is changing, and I encourage this change ) are taught to do "pretty things" from birth - they get barbies and pink blankets and whathave you. Just like the reason why studies show that blacks commit crimes more often than whites. Well, look at the predetermining circumstances. Many police officers and officials are racists, first of all, and second of all, there are entirely more blacks living in bad parts of cities because that is originally where everyone lived pre world war 2 - then GIs got housing assistance and began to move out of the cities and build houses.. Then came the car boom because they needed cars to get into the city from the newly built suburbs, but I have digressed. It is hard to move up social statuses, especially when engrained in the code of the street - which flies much more than american law in the streets as so noted in the book "Code of the Street"...
In any event - man nor woman are evil - thoughts and actions are good or bad. Ethics, etc.
And Transform - even if guys do play more violent video games, so what? Just because someone plays violent video games doesn't mean they're violent. The whole scene got a bad rap from those a- well you know - those sickos who shot up columbine.
I think that Transform is just trying to get a rise out of us though - and it is true we did respond heavily to this topic - so if that was his aim, kudos. Otherwise, he's just stupid as hell. I mean seriously, he uses so many smilies im suprised i havnt gotten a seizure - it's like watching anime.
Thank you and goodnight.
Aumha
Feb 10 2005, 03:22 PM
My aunt works as a surgeon in an emergency room and told me recently that she treats about an equal number of male and female victims of domestic violence

If you look at male/female stereotypes across the world today (and it's a big and colourful world), with the multitude of cultures, oppresive and liberal regimes, gays and sex changers, odd proffesions and weird&wonderful lifestyles all you can really conclude with any certainty is that women are the ones delivering babies and men are those that don't!
Lord_Kazius
Feb 10 2005, 03:48 PM
transform, either you wish you were a woman or you have some serious issues about being a man.
Gabriel
Feb 11 2005, 09:35 PM
oh im going to get an ear full for this.
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