What i beleive in:
I don't care what culture you are just
don't insult what i beleive in.
I know what to be right,
but i do not wish to argue over things
you say about what i beleive in.
Lightningstream
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Alright. So you believe in stuff and you don't care if other people don't and you don't want to argue.
So, is there a point this this at all?
So, is there a point this this at all?
No, BurnSide, I don't think there is a point to this...
twpdyp steps back scratches head and ponders this thread looking for a hidden meaning perhaps. Decide that it is very poorly worded and not what the author had in mind. Maybe the author will try again and then I will understand.
There is a point the point is i want to know what you think on different subjects of what you beleive but i don't want you to argue about what i beleive in.
and what i know is true.
and what i know is true.
In other words don't say my whole culture is wrong and what i beleive in is all fake and wrong because that's not right but i want to know your side of things.
Doubtful. Everyone in the world believes something that most likely isn't true. Nobody knows all the facts.
Okay well to know our side of things on a subject first you have to GIVE a subject for us to give our opinions and beliefs on.
That's a good way to be Linghtninstream. However, on this board, everything is up for debate. So, I guess it's more to do with picking a side...
i just wanted to clear that up that's why i made this topic,
also don't any of you have a subject that you would like to clear up?
also don't any of you have a subject that you would like to clear up?
Sorry, but this topic makes absolutely no sense at all.
What about Christmas? lol, there's a topic.
Yeah, i believe in Christmas. Mostl people do. I think my christmas tree is ampule proof of it's existance. 
Well i beleive they should have the christmas trees up and all the streets are decorated like they used to be and what about door to door carols why isn't that here anymore.
This isn't exactly the best forum to go to if you are afraid to have your beliefs questioned. That's sort of the point of most of them.
If you are afraid to have them tested, you must not believe in them very strongly.
And I think caroling here would be hard. I live in the 2nd floor of my apartment building.
If you are afraid to have them tested, you must not believe in them very strongly.
And I think caroling here would be hard. I live in the 2nd floor of my apartment building.
Good point Ms. Rose!
If you cannot defend your beliefs, then obviously do don't have much faith in them.
If you cannot defend your beliefs, then obviously do don't have much faith in them.
Where just ruining it for all the kids around and it's not fair we give all the nationalalities their days of celebration but what about ours?
well i'm sure caroling could be in the middle of malls and things like that,
and door to door to and stuff like that and i beleive very strongly in my beleifs.
and door to door to and stuff like that and i beleive very strongly in my beleifs.
whats this thread about anyways??
lightning stream, i'm not really sure that anyone really knows what you're talking about.
WHAT ARE YOUR BELIEFS, what subject are you talking about, why are you offended that you don't have a day to celebrate your nationality etc? Be clear!
WHAT ARE YOUR BELIEFS, what subject are you talking about, why are you offended that you don't have a day to celebrate your nationality etc? Be clear!
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Dec 17 2004, 07:53 PM)
lightning stream, i'm not really sure that anyone really knows what you're talking about.
WHAT ARE YOUR BELIEFS, what subject are you talking about, why are you offended that you don't have a day to celebrate your nationality etc? Be clear!
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I second that.
What about Re-incarnation,
What do they remember?
Can they remember?
Why can't we?
What do they remember?
Can they remember?
Why can't we?
I do just others offend that i am a christian and i beleive that christmas should be celebrated properly.
Okay. And it is, and you have an entire season devoted to christmas. So why on earth would you be offended that it isn't getting celebrated, when it's celebrated for over a month??
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Okay. And it is, and you have an entire season devoted to christmas. So why on earth would you be offended that it isn't getting celebrated, when it's celebrated for over a month??
Very true. People around here set up their lights the day after Thanksgiving. Everyday on our T.V> announcements at school from day one of December they've been playing Christmas songs at the start up. Same with some radio stations. They play Christmas songs all freaking month long when Christmas is only one day.
It's not that is bothers me but I'm trying to figure out what the hell you're complaining about lightning.
I don't think lightning even knows.
i just think things have changed and where i am they only make all these celebrations on the day they have other things but when i was a kid it was for a whole month like you guys but now we just don't celebrate it properly.
Well jeeze move somewhere with a lot of catholics like me. I'm right on the Mexican border. 
Ok, I think Lightninstream is talking about the fact that Christmas isn't allowed in public schools anymore, and that so many people seem offended by the celebration of Christmas (that being the culture thing).
I just talked about reincarnation on another post, go find it
I just talked about reincarnation on another post, go find it
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Dec 18 2004, 12:10 AM)
Ok, I think Lightninstream is talking about the fact that Christmas isn't allowed in public schools anymore, and that so many people seem offended by the celebration of Christmas (that being the culture thing).
I just talked about reincarnation on another post, go find it
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Thank you someone who agrees with me!!!!!!
I would never say your whole culture is wrong or what you believe in is fake.
Honest!
Honest!
QUOTE(tam @ Dec 18 2004, 12:12 AM)
I would never say your whole culture is wrong or what you believe in is fake.
Honest!
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Honest!
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Thank you your one of the only good people in here
What can i say were both Extraterrestrials lol
i am so confused by this thread right now 
Thank you Ashley, for explaining what lightning was seemingly unable to do.
You could have just said in the first place that you were offended by the fact that christmas was being taken out of school and stuff.
So if you and your culture get offended, shouldn't you take into account that maybe other people who have different cultures and beliefs than you are getting offended by christmas, especially when they sometimes don't even have an entire day, and christmas has over a month.
Kinda selfish thinking really.
You could have just said in the first place that you were offended by the fact that christmas was being taken out of school and stuff.
So if you and your culture get offended, shouldn't you take into account that maybe other people who have different cultures and beliefs than you are getting offended by christmas, especially when they sometimes don't even have an entire day, and christmas has over a month.
Kinda selfish thinking really.
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Dec 18 2004, 12:16 AM)
Thank you Ashley, for explaining what lightning was seemingly unable to do.
You could have just said in the first place that you were offended by the fact that christmas was being taken out of school and stuff.
So if you and your culture get offended, shouldn't you take into account that maybe other people who have different cultures and beliefs than you are getting offended by christmas, especially when they sometimes don't even have an entire day, and christmas has over a month.
Kinda selfish thinking really.
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You could have just said in the first place that you were offended by the fact that christmas was being taken out of school and stuff.
So if you and your culture get offended, shouldn't you take into account that maybe other people who have different cultures and beliefs than you are getting offended by christmas, especially when they sometimes don't even have an entire day, and christmas has over a month.
Kinda selfish thinking really.
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Well there in our country we let them celebrate everything here then how come if we go there we can't celebrate christmas then were the real ones offended.
I'm not critisizing i'm just saying.
Ahh. Now you're advancing into territory i like to debate with.
I completely agree with you. Why is it that the government caters to foriegn people who move into the country more than the people already living in the country? Doesn't make sense does it, especially since we're not allowed to celebrate our beliefs in their countries.
Here's a sort of example of that. I like in an english province on the border of a french one. We are required in this completely english city i live in to have french and english signs everywhere. For the french that come over here.
However, the french refuse to have any english signs anywhere, they only have french. How is that fair? We give all and recieve nothing.
I completely agree with you. Why is it that the government caters to foriegn people who move into the country more than the people already living in the country? Doesn't make sense does it, especially since we're not allowed to celebrate our beliefs in their countries.
Here's a sort of example of that. I like in an english province on the border of a french one. We are required in this completely english city i live in to have french and english signs everywhere. For the french that come over here.
However, the french refuse to have any english signs anywhere, they only have french. How is that fair? We give all and recieve nothing.
Well, yeah, the point is, if you went to Iraq and asked them to abolish Ramadon publicly because it was offending Christians, they'd tell you to get stuffed (and that's just an example). Here they are allowed to publicly celebrate anything they want, they get time off work, raise theirs flags, publicly celebrate their religious beliefs, and then try to quash anything Christian.
It's as i said.
Gotta love the bleeding hearts eh.
Gotta love the bleeding hearts eh.
This thread just cracks me up... But Lightningstream... I'm sure you are trying to say something profound, but in order to protect yourself from further mocking and ridicule, you might want to proofread your post, they seem to go in circles without saying anything... take a deep breath and try again:) we'll still be here:)
Yes, it's true that it's not only religious beliefs, but with everything. We allow foreigners into the country, welcome them, give them financial support (which no one born here gets), and try at least to bring down cultrual barriers so that everyone's happy. But when they get here, they try to take over, and generally, crap on us for letting them do it.
QUOTE(BurnSide @ Dec 18 2004, 12:20 AM)
Ahh. Now you're advancing into territory i like to debate with.
I completely agree with you. Why is it that the government caters to foriegn people who move into the country more than the people already living in the country? Doesn't make sense does it, especially since we're not allowed to celebrate our beliefs in their countries.
Here's a sort of example of that. I like in an english province on the border of a french one. We are required in this completely english city i live in to have french and english signs everywhere. For the french that come over here.
However, the french refuse to have any english signs anywhere, they only have french. How is that fair? We give all and recieve nothing.
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I completely agree with you. Why is it that the government caters to foriegn people who move into the country more than the people already living in the country? Doesn't make sense does it, especially since we're not allowed to celebrate our beliefs in their countries.
Here's a sort of example of that. I like in an english province on the border of a french one. We are required in this completely english city i live in to have french and english signs everywhere. For the french that come over here.
However, the french refuse to have any english signs anywhere, they only have french. How is that fair? We give all and recieve nothing.
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Thank you Ashley & Burnside For your Agreeance but busybut doesn't seem to understand de englisho.
no actually, I do... however, I posted before I followed the thread all the way through... my mistake 
How is a 'religious' Christmas not being celebrated? I see Nativity scenes everywhere...I get religious Christmas cards, the churches around here have big productions. What is missing?
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Ok, here's something else... whats all this crap in the news about people not wanting things like the teaching of the constitution and other historical documents because of the use of the word "god"?? I've clearly already stated several times that I'm an atheist, but its downright silly to DENY our country's roots. This country was set up on Judeo-Christian ethic, and to deny that is to deny our history. 
QUOTE(JennRose @ Dec 17 2004, 07:38 PM)
How is a 'religious' Christmas not being celebrated? I see Nativity scenes everywhere...I get religious Christmas cards, the churches around here have big productions. What is missing?
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He's offended it's getting banned in schools and government buildings because christmas offended non-christmas according to the government. I agree that it's silly to take it out, but then again to play the otherside, i believe that religion in general has no place in the schools. There's sunday school for that.
QUOTE(Bizeebutt @ Dec 17 2004, 07:43 PM)
Ok, here's something else... whats all this crap in the news about people not wanting things like the teaching of the constitution and other historical documents because of the use of the word "god"?? I've clearly already stated several times that I'm an atheist, but its downright silly to DENY our country's roots. This country was set up on Judeo-Christian ethic, and to deny that is to deny our history.
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When i was a kid i asked a question about Nazis, to which i was immediately suspended from school for a week.
Things have changed a little since then, but i agree, it's terrible to block things out of history because they offend some people. Weather it offends you or not, it's part of history and you can't change that damnit.
BRB
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