just curious in new to this, well i was searching the net found a site about the voynich manuscript(tons of sites out there), its sopossed to be hundreds of years old written in some unbreakable code or unkown language possible a hoax, im not sure?
sounded diff so i thought id start a topic..
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Heres an amazing site based on the Voynich manuscript. If your really interested in this, you'll find this site amazing. Just read carefully and read all of it - its pretty good, read it a while back...
So wheres the link for the site 
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just curious in new to this, well i was searching the net found a site about the voynich manuscript(tons of sites out there), its sopossed to be hundreds of years old written in some unbreakable code or unkown language possible a hoax, im not sure?
sounded diff so i thought id start a topic..
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sounded diff so i thought id start a topic..
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Ah.. A book of Alchemy. Only a true clairvoyant can read its text.
lol, seems im not a clairvoant, pitty..
seems interesting, but im stillskeptical.
trying to keep an open mind but so many people claim to have broken it, and yet so many claim its a hoax, im just interested simply cause there are many diffrent pics of stuff sopposedly drawn before such things where disscoverd, on the other hand if i draw a rough sketch of earth on the ground one could also say its a picture of a marble, right?
this could give one a headach.
seems interesting, but im stillskeptical.
trying to keep an open mind but so many people claim to have broken it, and yet so many claim its a hoax, im just interested simply cause there are many diffrent pics of stuff sopposedly drawn before such things where disscoverd, on the other hand if i draw a rough sketch of earth on the ground one could also say its a picture of a marble, right?
this could give one a headach.
Oh my god! I just realized I didn't post the site up! I am so sorry - I'll try to find it :-D..
I think this was it:
http://www.crystalinks.com/voynich.html
I think this was it:
http://www.crystalinks.com/voynich.html
If I am thinking of the correct manuscript, it has actually been shown to be a very clever hoax. I will have to look for the source, but essentially, a researcher found the fairly intricate sequence the author used to create the text, and traced the suspected author down to verify motive and intent. It turned out to be a forgery created for the purpose of bilking the buyer out of a fairly decent sum of money.
I've recently been doing some research on the Voynich manuscript myself. I've heard alot of theories including that there is a very good chance it is a hoax. I believe one such hoax theory was even explored in the magazine Economics. If it is a hoax, it is very old; they think it was written some time between 1300 - 1600 which leaves room for a large margin of error. If it isn't a hoax, the writing has been thus far undecipherable. Some people think it could be a version of Ukrainian without vowels, or a form of Chinese. I'm thinking it is just some weird alphabet that some guy made up a long time ago because he didn't have anything better to do 
Anyway, if this isn't a hoax, a number of people think it has to do with alchemy due to the fact that it mostly has celestial and botanical images. Regardless of the content of the writing, the pictures are very interesting!
Anyway, if this isn't a hoax, a number of people think it has to do with alchemy due to the fact that it mostly has celestial and botanical images. Regardless of the content of the writing, the pictures are very interesting!
Came across this while surfing the web.
The Voynich Manuscript is considered to be 'The Most Mysterious Manuscript in the World'. To this day this medieval artifact resists all efforts at translation.
It is either an ingenious hoax or an unbreakable cipher.
The manuscript is named after its discoverer, the American antique book dealer and collector, Wilfrid M. Voynich, who discovered it in 1912, amongst a collection of ancient manuscripts kept in villa Mondragone in Frascati, near Rome, which had been by then turned into a Jesuit College (closed in 1953).
The Voynich Manuscript is a cipher manuscript, sometimes attributed to Roger Bacon. Scientific text in an unidentified language, in cipher, possibly written in central Europe in the 15th century.
Based on the evidence of the calligraphy, the drawings, the vellum, and the pigments, Wilfrid Voynich estimated that the Manuscript was created in the late 13th century. The manuscript is small, seven by ten inches, but thick, nearly 235 pages. It is written in an unknown script of which there is no known other instance in the world. It is abundantly illustrated with awkward coloured drawings of:
unidentified plants;
what seems to be herbal recipes;
tiny naked women frolicking in bathtubs connected by intricate plumbing looking more like anatomical parts than hydraulic contraptions;
mysterious charts in which some have seem astronomical objects seen through a telescope, some live cells seen through a microscope;
charts into which you may see a strange calendar of zodiacal signs, populated by tiny naked people in rubbish bins.
In 1944, Hugh O'Neill, a renowned botanist at the Catholic University, identified various plants depicted in the manuscript as New-World species, in particular an American sunflower and a red pepper (O'Neill, 1944). This meant that the dating of the manuscript should be placed after 1493, when Columbus brought the first sunflower seeds to Europe. However, the identification is not certain: the red pepper is coloured green and the sunflower identification is equally contested.
Anyone know more about it?
The Voynich Manuscript is considered to be 'The Most Mysterious Manuscript in the World'. To this day this medieval artifact resists all efforts at translation.
It is either an ingenious hoax or an unbreakable cipher.
The manuscript is named after its discoverer, the American antique book dealer and collector, Wilfrid M. Voynich, who discovered it in 1912, amongst a collection of ancient manuscripts kept in villa Mondragone in Frascati, near Rome, which had been by then turned into a Jesuit College (closed in 1953).
The Voynich Manuscript is a cipher manuscript, sometimes attributed to Roger Bacon. Scientific text in an unidentified language, in cipher, possibly written in central Europe in the 15th century.
Based on the evidence of the calligraphy, the drawings, the vellum, and the pigments, Wilfrid Voynich estimated that the Manuscript was created in the late 13th century. The manuscript is small, seven by ten inches, but thick, nearly 235 pages. It is written in an unknown script of which there is no known other instance in the world. It is abundantly illustrated with awkward coloured drawings of:
unidentified plants;
what seems to be herbal recipes;
tiny naked women frolicking in bathtubs connected by intricate plumbing looking more like anatomical parts than hydraulic contraptions;
mysterious charts in which some have seem astronomical objects seen through a telescope, some live cells seen through a microscope;
charts into which you may see a strange calendar of zodiacal signs, populated by tiny naked people in rubbish bins.
In 1944, Hugh O'Neill, a renowned botanist at the Catholic University, identified various plants depicted in the manuscript as New-World species, in particular an American sunflower and a red pepper (O'Neill, 1944). This meant that the dating of the manuscript should be placed after 1493, when Columbus brought the first sunflower seeds to Europe. However, the identification is not certain: the red pepper is coloured green and the sunflower identification is equally contested.
Anyone know more about it?
I have also read about this. Facinating.
I would love to decipher the synthetic language.
I beleive it is an alchemical textbook.
I would love to decipher the synthetic language.
I beleive it is an alchemical textbook.
QUOTE(Blake2kuk @ May 11 2005, 02:05 PM)
Came across this while surfing the web.
The Voynich Manuscript is considered to be 'The Most Mysterious Manuscript in the World'. To this day this medieval artifact resists all efforts at translation.
It is either an ingenious hoax or an unbreakable cipher.
The manuscript is named after its discoverer, the American antique book dealer and collector, Wilfrid M. Voynich, who discovered it in 1912, amongst a collection of ancient manuscripts kept in villa Mondragone in Frascati, near Rome, which had been by then turned into a Jesuit College (closed in 1953).
The Voynich Manuscript is a cipher manuscript, sometimes attributed to Roger Bacon. Scientific text in an unidentified language, in cipher, possibly written in central Europe in the 15th century.
Based on the evidence of the calligraphy, the drawings, the vellum, and the pigments, Wilfrid Voynich estimated that the Manuscript was created in the late 13th century. The manuscript is small, seven by ten inches, but thick, nearly 235 pages. It is written in an unknown script of which there is no known other instance in the world. It is abundantly illustrated with awkward coloured drawings of:
unidentified plants;
what seems to be herbal recipes;
tiny naked women frolicking in bathtubs connected by intricate plumbing looking more like anatomical parts than hydraulic contraptions;
mysterious charts in which some have seem astronomical objects seen through a telescope, some live cells seen through a microscope;
charts into which you may see a strange calendar of zodiacal signs, populated by tiny naked people in rubbish bins.
In 1944, Hugh O'Neill, a renowned botanist at the Catholic University, identified various plants depicted in the manuscript as New-World species, in particular an American sunflower and a red pepper (O'Neill, 1944). This meant that the dating of the manuscript should be placed after 1493, when Columbus brought the first sunflower seeds to Europe. However, the identification is not certain: the red pepper is coloured green and the sunflower identification is equally contested.
Anyone know more about it?
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The Voynich Manuscript is considered to be 'The Most Mysterious Manuscript in the World'. To this day this medieval artifact resists all efforts at translation.
It is either an ingenious hoax or an unbreakable cipher.
The manuscript is named after its discoverer, the American antique book dealer and collector, Wilfrid M. Voynich, who discovered it in 1912, amongst a collection of ancient manuscripts kept in villa Mondragone in Frascati, near Rome, which had been by then turned into a Jesuit College (closed in 1953).
The Voynich Manuscript is a cipher manuscript, sometimes attributed to Roger Bacon. Scientific text in an unidentified language, in cipher, possibly written in central Europe in the 15th century.
Based on the evidence of the calligraphy, the drawings, the vellum, and the pigments, Wilfrid Voynich estimated that the Manuscript was created in the late 13th century. The manuscript is small, seven by ten inches, but thick, nearly 235 pages. It is written in an unknown script of which there is no known other instance in the world. It is abundantly illustrated with awkward coloured drawings of:
unidentified plants;
what seems to be herbal recipes;
tiny naked women frolicking in bathtubs connected by intricate plumbing looking more like anatomical parts than hydraulic contraptions;
mysterious charts in which some have seem astronomical objects seen through a telescope, some live cells seen through a microscope;
charts into which you may see a strange calendar of zodiacal signs, populated by tiny naked people in rubbish bins.
In 1944, Hugh O'Neill, a renowned botanist at the Catholic University, identified various plants depicted in the manuscript as New-World species, in particular an American sunflower and a red pepper (O'Neill, 1944). This meant that the dating of the manuscript should be placed after 1493, when Columbus brought the first sunflower seeds to Europe. However, the identification is not certain: the red pepper is coloured green and the sunflower identification is equally contested.
Anyone know more about it?
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I know that Mr Voynich sold the book for $24,500
Of course the chances of it being a hoax go down unless somewhere along the line an antique book dealer and collector is involved with profitting from it
Historically, it first appears in 1586 at the court of Rudolph II of Bohemia, who was one of the most eccentric European monarchs of that or any other period.
it was written about but of course no copies made and then it vanished in 1666
Highly suspicious
i heard a thoery that it could be made the guy who first invented the microscope and such?? 
The Voynich Manuscript has been "solved", at least to the satisfaction of most of the experts on the manuscript. Sadly the solution shows that the manuscript is in fact a hoax although an extremely ingenious one, as in fact was the solution. Below is a web-site with an article explaining how the manuscript was solved.
http://wired-vig.wired.com/wired/archive/12.09/rugg.html
http://wired-vig.wired.com/wired/archive/12.09/rugg.html
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In the Elizabethan era, Rudolph II, the Holy Roman emperor, became fascinated with the beautifully wrought manuscript (he believed it was the work of 13th-century philosopher Roger Bacon) and paid 600 gold ducats for it - about $30,000 today.
thats who i thought
good find EcurtR
and welcome 2 the forum
problem solved
Welcome to the boards EcurtR! 1st post and you solved a mystery. You will do well here.
even marduk cant dispute that
or can he?....
lol
or can he?....
lol
Interesting. Especially the link about creating in-decipherable codes, cardon grille.
Thanks for posting the link.
Thanks for posting the link.
This si not exactly solved. Although the manuscript is proven to be statistically lacking any pattern you have to remember that not even now they are not 100% sure about this. Lets remeber that one of the linear writting styles (A) and the Disc of Festos are yet to be cracked and they are older. I can't see why someone would create this when he did not profit directly from it. Maybe this is an incomplete version of a code put together but it doesn't mean its fake.
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ May 12 2005, 09:54 AM)
This si not exactly solved. Although the manuscript is proven to be statistically lacking any pattern you have to remember that not even now they are not 100% sure about this. Lets remeber that one of the linear writting styles (A) and the Disc of Festos are yet to be cracked and they are older. I can't see why someone would create this when he did not profit directly from it. Maybe this is an incomplete version of a code put together but it doesn't mean its fake.
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lol you missed a bit
the original manuscript was sold to Rudolph II for 600 gold ducats
then this mysteriously discovered new version was sold for $24,500
so the first creator made money off of it
as did the guy who recreated it/ re discovered it
meaning
(the $64,000,000 questioning)
if sumone 'discovered' a manuscript
and sold it of to the highest bidder
without getting it checked first
will that make it genuine?
answers on a postcard + 5 dollars
to euraka! ive got it!
london uk
(the $64,000,000 questioning)
if sumone 'discovered' a manuscript
and sold it of to the highest bidder
without getting it checked first
will that make it genuine?
answers on a postcard + 5 dollars
to euraka! ive got it!
london uk
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meaning
(the $64,000,000 questioning)
if sumone 'discovered' a manuscript
and sold it of to the highest bidder
without getting it checked first
will that make it genuine?
answers on a postcard + 5 dollars
to euraka! ive got it!
london uk
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(the $64,000,000 questioning)
if sumone 'discovered' a manuscript
and sold it of to the highest bidder
without getting it checked first
will that make it genuine?
answers on a postcard + 5 dollars
to euraka! ive got it!
london uk
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$64 million dollar question
that seems a bit steep roswell
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lol you missed a bit
the original manuscript was sold to Rudolph II for 600 gold ducats
then this mysteriously discovered new version was sold for $24,500
so the first creator made money off of it
as did the guy who recreated it/ re discovered it
the original manuscript was sold to Rudolph II for 600 gold ducats
then this mysteriously discovered new version was sold for $24,500
so the first creator made money off of it
as did the guy who recreated it/ re discovered it
LOL....my bad....I though it was the person who found and finished the manuscript that sold and got the money. I should really sleep more
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lol you missed a bit
the original manuscript was sold to Rudolph II for 600 gold ducats
then this mysteriously discovered new version was sold for $24,500
so the first creator made money off of it
as did the guy who recreated it/ re discovered it
the original manuscript was sold to Rudolph II for 600 gold ducats
then this mysteriously discovered new version was sold for $24,500
so the first creator made money off of it
as did the guy who recreated it/ re discovered it
LOL....my bad....I though it was the person who found and finished the manuscript that sold and got the money. I should really sleep more
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i would imagine that even that came with some recompense.
Voynich Manuscript........ http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_13.htm
Real or hoax?
Here is a record for a recently published book on the Voynich MS. The library does not address the authenticity of the manuscript but merely cares for it as one item in our collections.
Author: Goldstone, Lawrence, 1947-
Title: The friar and the cipher : Roger Bacon and the unsolved mystery of the most unusual manuscript in the world / Lawrence and Nancy Goldstone.
Edition: 1st ed.
Published: New York : Doubleday : 2005.
Description: xi, 320 p. : ill. (some col.) ; 22 cm.
Available Online: Contributor biographical information
Publisher description
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Location: SML, Stacks, LC Classification
Call Number: Z105.5.V65 G65X 2005 (LC)
Status: Not Checked Out
Subjects (Library of Congress): Voynich manuscript.
Database: Yale University Library
"Beinecke Library" <beinecke.library@yale.edu>
Real or hoax?
Here is a record for a recently published book on the Voynich MS. The library does not address the authenticity of the manuscript but merely cares for it as one item in our collections.
Author: Goldstone, Lawrence, 1947-
Title: The friar and the cipher : Roger Bacon and the unsolved mystery of the most unusual manuscript in the world / Lawrence and Nancy Goldstone.
Edition: 1st ed.
Published: New York : Doubleday : 2005.
Description: xi, 320 p. : ill. (some col.) ; 22 cm.
Available Online: Contributor biographical information
Publisher description
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Location: SML, Stacks, LC Classification
Call Number: Z105.5.V65 G65X 2005 (LC)
Status: Not Checked Out
Subjects (Library of Congress): Voynich manuscript.
Database: Yale University Library
"Beinecke Library" <beinecke.library@yale.edu>
if u use the search function.
u'll find the topic started earleir
and its been proven to be a hoax.
u'll find the topic started earleir
and its been proven to be a hoax.
Roswell Man . . . yep, but apparently it ain't dead yet. But if you want to delete this thread, that's ok, since it has been gone through before in the forums. No problem.
Author: Goldstone, Lawrence, 1947-
Title: The friar and the cipher : Roger Bacon and the unsolved mystery of the most unusual manuscript in the world / Lawrence and Nancy Goldstone.
Edition: 1st ed.
Published: New York : Doubleday : 2005.
Author: Goldstone, Lawrence, 1947-
Title: The friar and the cipher : Roger Bacon and the unsolved mystery of the most unusual manuscript in the world / Lawrence and Nancy Goldstone.
Edition: 1st ed.
Published: New York : Doubleday : 2005.
QUOTE(seekeraftertruth @ Jun 6 2005, 06:06 PM)
But if you want to delete this thread, that's ok, since it has been gone through before in the forums. No problem.
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No need; topics merged.
I can prove this manuscript is not a hoax, I just do not know where to go with this information.
Anyone?
Anyone?
This manuscript makes no sense at all.
I think the manuscript was written in a language that is only in the mind of the author, who by the looks of it.. spent a while on this project, resulting in an enigmatic, yet beautiful manuscript that will never be read properly.
It can be linked with Alchemy, Astrology etc, but it is so obscure and rare, no known copies.. if it was a journal, surely it'd be readable to anyone as a research book.
IMO, it was never intended to be read.. it is the illustrations that hit me first.. They are very enigmatic too.. they wont be recognised either, because they are also figments of the authors imagination. When you look at the words also, they look like some kind of made-up star trek language.. and it is very possible to use the Cardon Grille to do this.
You cant translate this to English.. just gibberish.
If you was an artist, as this person was.. they made a set of letters that are totally unique, and then you arrange them randomly, or in some kind of order, that parts make sense and others dont, to get that confusing effect.
It reads like this, as mentioned in a previous thread link.
Some pages from the Manuscript HERE
'qopchedy qokedydy qokoloky qokeedy qokedy shedy' if translated in English, for example.
- Anyone care to read that, and not laugh out loud?
You'd have to be insane to understand that, and the fact that it sold for a lot of money tells me someone thought this manuscript would make them very rich off the gullibility of someone rich and daft..
Do the illustrations also remind anybody of automatic writing, or is it just me?
It has the same kind of randomness, but you kind of know what it is, but you don't.
I think the manuscript was written in a language that is only in the mind of the author, who by the looks of it.. spent a while on this project, resulting in an enigmatic, yet beautiful manuscript that will never be read properly.
It can be linked with Alchemy, Astrology etc, but it is so obscure and rare, no known copies.. if it was a journal, surely it'd be readable to anyone as a research book.
IMO, it was never intended to be read.. it is the illustrations that hit me first.. They are very enigmatic too.. they wont be recognised either, because they are also figments of the authors imagination. When you look at the words also, they look like some kind of made-up star trek language.. and it is very possible to use the Cardon Grille to do this.
You cant translate this to English.. just gibberish.
If you was an artist, as this person was.. they made a set of letters that are totally unique, and then you arrange them randomly, or in some kind of order, that parts make sense and others dont, to get that confusing effect.
It reads like this, as mentioned in a previous thread link.
Some pages from the Manuscript HERE
'qopchedy qokedydy qokoloky qokeedy qokedy shedy' if translated in English, for example.
- Anyone care to read that, and not laugh out loud?
You'd have to be insane to understand that, and the fact that it sold for a lot of money tells me someone thought this manuscript would make them very rich off the gullibility of someone rich and daft..
Do the illustrations also remind anybody of automatic writing, or is it just me?
It has the same kind of randomness, but you kind of know what it is, but you don't.
I [and a few others] can read the implied messages in many of the illustrations, and some English can be moved from the illustrations to the text through symbology.
There is more than enough there in the 233(?) page manuscript to figure it out.
Does this mean I am insane by understanding some of the book?
-Crowley
I am more concerned with the fact that no group will step forward and claim to know how to decipher the manuscript.
There is more than enough there in the 233(?) page manuscript to figure it out.
Does this mean I am insane by understanding some of the book?
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"If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the bible seriously, one must be already mad."
-Crowley
I am more concerned with the fact that no group will step forward and claim to know how to decipher the manuscript.
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Does this mean I am insane by understanding some of the book?
Well, put it this way, to understand that text you would have to be thinking so far out of the box..
This manuscript does have a meaning somewhere, just not to anyone other than the author, IMHO.
I don't think this book is a revelation of anything, it's an art portfolio, essentially.. and it is very, very interesting to look at, because it trys to baffle you into thinking it is something mysterious, when all it is.. is a nicely illustrated book with a nonsensical language.
Can you also explain why the author had an obsession with dwarved naked women?
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Well, put it this way, to understand that text you would have to be thinking so far out of the box..
Indeed.
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I don't think this book is a revelation of anything, it's an art portfolio, essentially..
On a fundamental level, I do not think this book reveals anything new either. At first.
(see above)
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Can you also explain why the author had an obsession with dwarved naked women?
Yes. It's right there.
And I have a good idea of who was the author of those naked women.
You have an elephant in the middle of your diagram. How odd.
The elephant in the diagram has nothing to do with the Voynich, it represents a 2D object that when viewed in a different perspective becomes 3D. And it's interesting that that is your point of focus.
<-----image is from the Voynich. I.
I am just wondering where to go with my information (as subjective as it may be).
<-----image is from the Voynich. I.
I am just wondering where to go with my information (as subjective as it may be).
Contact Yale University (USA), who actually have the book.. they must know someone.
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just curious in new to this, well i was searching the net found a site about the voynich manuscript(tons of sites out there), its sopossed to be hundreds of years old written in some unbreakable code or unkown language possible a hoax, im not sure?
sounded diff so i thought id start a topic..
have a read of this site before you come to any conclusions:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.09/rugg.html
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have a read of this site before you come to any conclusions:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.09/rugg.html
That is the best way to come to a conclusion..."Well, I can't figure it out, so it must be a hoax."
If people would get past their own selfish egos, and try a collective approach to this manuscript, and many other things just like this book, situations would get solved much quicker.
Of course, since the best efforts so far indicate that the book is gibberish, there will always be those who say that it only seems like gibberish because we have the wrong deciphering codes! Either that or that the deciphered messege in gibberish is merely the next step in deciphering the message!
You can see how this could go on indeffinately. There will always be those who believe that it is really more than it probably is. Wooldn't it be something if they were right?
You can see how this could go on indeffinately. There will always be those who believe that it is really more than it probably is. Wooldn't it be something if they were right?
Well, I am definitely sure that what I see in the Voynich will bring up more questions, but that is the point...to move past the outer shell and examine the inner structure of this 500 year old manuscript.
There is a small difference here...I know. Not just believe, I know. I know I am on the right track because the things mentioned in the book are all around us today. And no, I am not just talking about the images of plants.
I can place at least twelve English words to the Voynich.
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There will always be those who believe that it is really more than it probably is. Wooldn't it be something if they were right?
There is a small difference here...I know. Not just believe, I know. I know I am on the right track because the things mentioned in the book are all around us today. And no, I am not just talking about the images of plants.
I can place at least twelve English words to the Voynich.
Well post it Pison! Sounds sometimes have as much an impact on communication than actual words.
If pictures Do give a clue, and a small portion is Partially Translatable... that's a big thing...
If pictures Do give a clue, and a small portion is Partially Translatable... that's a big thing...
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Well post it Pison! Sounds sometimes have as much an impact on communication than actual words.
If pictures Do give a clue, and a small portion is Partially Translatable... that's a big thing...
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That is the best way to come to a conclusion..."Well, I can't figure it out, so it must be a hoax."
If people would get past their own selfish egos, and try a collective approach to this manuscript, and many other things just like this book, situations would get solved much quicker.
psion knows that if we know what he knows he wont know how he knows he knows that we know he knows that he knows...my god he is cunning
If I post what I know, someone will take it. No doubt.
I am in touch with Yale though, and people will find out soon.
In the meantime you can read the last book if the Bible, Revelation, to get a preview.
I am in touch with Yale though, and people will find out soon.
In the meantime you can read the last book if the Bible, Revelation, to get a preview.
Revelation 5:
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1 And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals.
2 Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?"
3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it.
4 So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it.
5 But one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals."
2 Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?"
3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it.
4 So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it.
5 But one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals."
Revelation 5:
I honestly can not wait until the walls come down.
QUOTE
1 And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals.
2 Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?"
3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it.
4 So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it.
5 But one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals."
2 Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?"
3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it.
4 So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it.
5 But one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals."
I honestly can not wait until the walls come down.
Revelation 10:
It's time.
QUOTE
8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
It's time.
7 different encryptions?
The third eye is opening...
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